Free to Good Home - Seattle Area
Jerome O'Neil
shots, spay/neuter, King County licenses. Bolth animals have
"Hemmingway" toes (six toes on each front paw). Excellent hunting
instincts. Indoor sleepers, outdoors most days. Well tempered, kid
friendly critters.
Ideal home is suburban or rural area with safe outdoor areas. Small
farms in need of mousers ideal. Will deliver.
Baby is alergic, so thats why they need new homes.
If you're interested, please cc a response to my e-mail address, as I
don't follow this group.
Thanks!
-Jerome O'Neil
amp11
will help find someone who is committed to taking care of
a cat. Any reasonable fee ($40 - $50 per cat) is nowhere near
the cost of the care of a cat for a year.
If someone responds to the ad that is trying to get a free cat,
it might be difficult to say that there is a fee for the kitties, but
anyone who really cares about their pet will be very understanding,
and anyone who is manipulative or objects is NOT someone
that should be trusted with a cat!
Also, insisting on delivering both cats to their new home and
having visiting rights are a great idea. This will not bother a
person who cares about a cat!
Best of luck, and there have been extensive posts about
treating allergies to pets on some of the cat newsgroups,
and there might be something useful in the postings.
Alan
Cat Protector
of an easy to solve problem. Let me see, you value the human baby's life
over another life. People like you disgust me. Instead of solving the
problem you treat the cats like your human child's diaper and get rid of
them. Cats should also be indoors as they could fall prey to bad humans, get
hit by cars or get in fights with other cats. You should never have adopted
the cats if you weren't willing to care for them. All cats deserve good and
loving homes.
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> Well here is another post from someone who has decided to dump cats
because
> of an easy to solve problem. Let me see, you value the human baby's life
> over another life. People like you disgust me. Instead of solving the
> problem you treat the cats like your human child's diaper and get rid of
> them. Cats should also be indoors as they could fall prey to bad humans,
get
> hit by cars or get in fights with other cats. You should never have
adopted
> the cats if you weren't willing to care for them. All cats deserve good
and
> loving homes.
In the spirit of good communication, I'll tell you what I'm going to tell
you, then I'll tell you , then I'll tell you what I've just told you.
To start: Go fuck yourself.
Now the detail...
> Well here is another post from someone who has decided to dump cats
because
> of an easy to solve problem.
Realy? Tell me what you think you know about my son's sinuses. As you
can't, I'll sum up your knowledge on the matter:
-You don't know dick.-
> Let me see, you value the human baby's life over another life.
Absolutely. I'd put their furry little heads on spikes and make muffs from
their pelts if Jr was cold. The fact that you don't value human life over
animal life exposes you as a real lonely sicko.
Here's some more news that I'm quite sure will send you right over the edge:
The cats are my property. I own them. They aren't my "babies" (I have
babies) and they aren't "part of the family" (I have family.) They are
pets, and they live in my home for the sole purpose of amusing me, my
babies, and my family. Beyond that, they have no rights whatsover that I
do not grant them. They eat what I feed them, and they sleep where I tell
them. Their face isn't found carved into the family totem. I have decided
that the discomfort they cause my son means they don't get to live in my
home anymore. Because they have been good cats, I'd like to ensure that
they go somewhere where they can enjoy the bennefits of having an owner as
generous as I.
And that is exactly how it's going to be.
> People like you disgust me.
Yeah, I guess caring about the health of your children makes you a real
monster.
You're pathetic.
> Instead of solving the problem you treat the cats like your human child's
diaper and get rid of
> them.
You keep saying "human child" as if there were some other kind. Perhaps you
have misunderstood the problem. My child is alergic to cats. The problem
is solved by removing the cats. Simple enough for even a moron like you to
understand.
> Cats should also be indoors as they could fall prey to bad humans, get
> hit by cars or get in fights with other cats
Bullshit. Large cats are apex preditors. Domesticated cats don't rise to
that level, but they share the same predatory instincts, and need to be
outside where they can excercise them. Keeping a cat indoors all the time
is cruel and unnatural. Just because you're lonely, doesn't mean your cat
is.
You should have never adopted a cat if you are unable to provide for even
it's most basic level of care. Do the right thing, and find tabby a new
home, as you are obviously unable to care for him.
> You should never have adopted the cats if you weren't willing to care for
them. All cats deserve good and
> loving homes.
Tell me what you think you know about the care my cats recieve. As you
can't, I'll sum up your knowledge on the matter:
-You don't know dick. - Again.
So, in summary: Go fuck yourself.
Sincerely,
-Jerome O'Neil
Cat Protector
You are a disgusting excuse for a human being for just dumping the cat.
Allergies can be easily dealt with. I know plenty of people who have cats
and allergies and they are willing to handle it. I think the thing you don't
like is someone who has enough guts to stand up to a cat dumper and call his
bluff. I know of too many people like you. The family has a baby and thus
they dump the cat. Because of people like you who use weak excuses, many
cats end up in shelters and thus are either euthanized or are now waiting
for adoption for quite a while at the no-kill shelters. I myself just
rescued another cat because the people moved away and thus dumped the cat.
If you were not willing to care for these cats for the rest of their lives
you should not have adopted them.
Your answer of how you see these cats shows me that either a. You are a
troll or B. an asshole who feels life has a price. You say I don't know what
I am talking about when it comes to cats. I'd put my education of cats and
the time I have taken to rescue them over yours any day of the week. Your
post which belittles cats and how you seem them as creatures which are there
for your amusement really shows your lack of compassion. You also feel cats
should eat where you tell them and do what you tell them. You think that
makes you superior? I got news for you, you aren't superior and your lack of
compassion proves it. As for the human child thing. There are other types of
children. I see my cats as my children and I would never dump them. Also you
have no idea how to care for cats if you believe they will be just fine
outdoors. I'd like to see you spout your viewpoint to a no-kill shelter the
next time a cat is hit by a car or dumped by some human like yourself.
You say you think they are good cats and thus must go to "an owner" who is
as generous as you? You really do have an ego don't you? I guess you feel by
bragging about how generous you have been makes you a real humanitarian
doesn't it? Face it, you are dumping two cats as if they were beer cans.
That doesn't make you a hero in my book. Also you are dead wrong about a
cat's need to be outside. Cats live a much fuller life indoors and a happier
one as well. You obviously don't know anything about cats. All I can say is
I feel very sorry for you as you are a poor excuse for a human being.
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OK, you're amusing, so I'll go another round.
"Cat Protector" <catpro...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> Allergies can be easily dealt with. I know plenty of people who have cats
> and allergies and they are willing to handle it.
So, you know lots more pathetic losers that place their little kitties over
the welfare of their children? Big surprise there. Birds of a feather, and
all that.
> I think the thing you don't like is someone who has enough guts to stand
up to a cat dumper and call his
> bluff.
Stand up and call my bluff? Partner, you got more e-muscle than anyone I
know. If you're ever in town, feel free to drop by and stand up. I'm in
the book.
So, my bluff is called. The cats are still going, though. They have as
much say in the matter as you do.
> I know of too many people like you. The family has a baby and thus
> they dump the cat.
Hey stupid, you're talking out your ass again. I've got three kids. They
aren't anything new around here.
> Because of people like you who use weak excuses, many
> cats end up in shelters and thus are either euthanized or are now waiting
> for adoption for quite a while at the no-kill shelters.
Y'know, I never even thought of just running them down to the vet and having
them put to sleep. I'm glad to know its an option, though.
> I myself just rescued another cat because the people moved away and thus
dumped the cat.
How noble. So you have multiple cats locked in the house (or let me guess,
two bedroom appartment)? If you think that's humane, you are seriously
fucked up. How many you got in there, a dozen?
I myself am donating time, resources, and money for a children's cancer
society.
> If you were not willing to care for these cats for the rest of their lives
> you should not have adopted them.
Bullshit. I made a lifetime commitment to my wife and my kids. The cats,
like all property, are here for as long as I wish them to be.
> Your answer of how you see these cats shows me that either a. You are a
> troll or B. an asshole who feels life has a price.
The cat's life does have a price. For these two, it's free. That's what
they cost me, and I'd like to pass that along to their new owners.
> You say I don't know what I am talking about when it comes to cats.
It's self evident.
> I'd put my education of cats and the time I have taken to rescue them over
yours any day of the week.
Today is a good day. Your contention that a high level predetor is better
off indoors all the time speaks volumes about what you know. Let me sum it
up:
-You don't know dick.- Again.
> Your post which belittles cats and how you seem them as creatures which
are there
> for your amusement really shows your lack of compassion.
Your willingness to allow children to suffer exposes you as a subhuman
freak.
My compassion is placed with those that deserve it. Sick kids deserve it.
Fat, healthy cats headed for a good home don't need it.
> You also feel cats should eat where you tell them and do what you tell
them. You think that
> makes you superior?
Opposable thumbs, walking upright, and the ability to reason make me
superior. It doesn't surprise me that you don't understand that.
> As for the human child thing. There are other types of children.
No there aren't. There a pets, and there freaks that project human
characteristics onto pets to compensate for some deep emotional or
psychological shortcoming.
The rest of us know the difference between our children and our pets.
> I see my cats as my children and I would never dump them.
See? Case in point.
And its quite evident that you don't know dick about kids, either.
> Also you have no idea how to care for cats if you believe they will be
just fine
> outdoors.
Cats have survived outdoors for millions of years, and will continue to
survive outdoors for quite some time. Or did you think they were invented
along with your scrubby little apartment?
> I'd like to see you spout your viewpoint to a no-kill shelter the
> next time a cat is hit by a car or dumped by some human like yourself.
Us humans have a saying: Shit happens.
If you aren't set up to allow the cat to be outside in a safe environment,
you aren't set up for the cat. Do the right thing, and give it up to a good
home.
> You say you think they are good cats and thus must go to "an owner" who is
> as generous as you?
Thats the first thing you've said that's even remotely accurate.
> You really do have an ego don't you?
Of course. And I can see how someone as pathetic as you are might find that
a little intimidating.
> I guess you feel by bragging about how generous you have been makes you a
real humanitarian
> doesn't it?
The fact that I work very hard to improve the world for the humans that live
in it makes me a humanitarian. You do understand what the "human" in
"humanitarian" means, don't you? The fact that I am trying to find a new
place for my cats to live makes me a decent pet owner. Only an idiot would
confuse the two.
> Face it, you are dumping two cats as if they were beer cans.
Beer cans are property, too.
> That doesn't make you a hero in my book.
You would be best served by disabusing yourself of any notion that I give a
shit about your opinion of me. There is a list, and you aren't on it.
> Also you are dead wrong about a cat's need to be outside. Cats live a much
fuller life indoors and a happier
> one as well.
Bullshit. Do you suppose God gave them those claws, fangs, and sharp
eyesight so they could sit indoors all day long? Do you suppose that in the
million or so years that they've been evolving those characteristics,
they've been pooping in plastic boxes and eating kibble?
Your treatment of your animals is cruel. You should be ashamed.
> You obviously don't know anything about cats.
I know that far too many of them are owned by lonely shut-ins that think
their cats should be shut-ins, too. Then they can pretend the cat is
happier, because they are happier now that they have a fuzzy little "baby."
Pathetic.
So, to sum up:
Go fuck yourself.
Sincerely,
Jerome O'Neil
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Cat Protector
Cats are not property. They are lives. You are an ass clown. I know a hell
of a lot more about cats then you and I'd put my education on the subject of
cats against yours any day of the week. You have no education on the
subject. Anyway, I rescue cats because I care very much about them. They are
beautiful, intelligent and wonderful creatures. They deserve loving homes
which obviously you prefer not to provide. It is sad to think you are going
to teach your values of cats being property to your kids. It is absolutely
disgusting. Yes, my rescuing cats and educating people about them is a
humane thing to do. Perhaps you should look up the word since you obviously
are not humane and care very little about life.
You absolutely sicken me as a human being. You have no compassion, no brains
and obviously no feelings. You also have no education if you believe cats
can do just fine outdoors. Try telling that to the rescue shelters who have
rescued cats after they were hit by cars or came across a person who decided
it would be a kick to abuse them. It's hard to believe there are people like
you in the world who think it is great to do evil and then justify it as no
big deal. It makes me appreciate those who rescue felines and generally do
care about their well being and are willing to work hard to give them a
better life. I pitty you though. Just remember that what goes around comes
around. Those who do malicious acts will be living a long time with that
karma. I feel very sorry for you.
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"Jerome O'Neil" <jerome...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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fusQuanto
defenses against allergies when they grow up. maybe your son will be happy
you kept the kittens. i have crazy ass allergies to not just cats, id do
anything to help keep them down.
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An older child may be able to communicate more about their allergic
condition. It sounds to me (I may be reading it wrong) that the child is an
infant. An infant can't communicate anything about its condition, which
means that if the child has a more serious reaction than usual, they can't
communicate it to the parents. I would rather the cats find a good home
elsewhere than the child suffer allergic reactions, minor or severe, and
then have the cats actually be "dumped" with no prior planning. The parents
are just being proactive and taking precautions that will benefit the child
and the cats. He isn't dumping the cats off on the side of the road, or
giving them to the first person he sees outside Walmart, he's trying to find
a good home for them. Give him a break :)
Cat Protector
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No, I did read his posts. I think (just a guess) that he felt like you were
attacking him and just responded in a manner that he knew would upset you.
*shrug*
Afterall, if he really felt that way, why would he go through the trouble of
trying to rehome the cats instead of dumping them off somewhere?
Cat Protector
dump cats or rehome them due to weak excuses. This person should not be seen
as some kind of hero. He is dumping them on someone else so that he can feel
more righteous. He should not have adopted them if he was not willing to
take care them for the rest of their lives. I suggest you take a look at all
the cats who end up in shelters due to lack of compassion.
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To you, it is a weak excuse. May I venture to guess you don't have children?
His children mean more to him than his cats. He is sitll trying to rehome
the cats though. There is nothing wrong with what he is doing. He could not
ahve anticipated the new baby being allergic. He is acting responsibly. The
world is not so black and white that there is only 1 right and 1 wrong
answer for each situation.
pallasg...@yahoo.com
Also, he is not dumping the cats off at a shelter. He is trying to find them
a good home. Don't hold him responsible for other people who just dropped
their pets off at a shelter and never looked back. They are two totally
different situations. One owner is trying to find a home; the others didn't
even bother.
Cat Protector
say he is acting responsibly when in fact he is only sugar coating the
issue. Plain and simple he is dumping those cats. From his posts I can say
they deserve a loving home since obviously he has no love in his heart for
them. If you ask me this man is cruel and doesn't deserve the right to have
any animal in his home. What is worse is this guy is more than likely to
teach his kids that it is ok to dump an animal.
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Cat Protector
is easily solved. Too many times I see cats simply tossed away because of a
baby in the family. Pretty weak excuse if you ask me.
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Can you explain how you easily solve an infant's allergic reaction to the
cat? Then please provide your medical credentials, and some proof that you
have extensive knowledge of pediatric allergies, specifically.
pallasg...@yahoo.com
It is different. One action contributes to the over-populated shelters; the
other places the cat in a loving home.
Cat Protector
in this guy's sugar coating of the deal. Both dump the problem on someone
else so that they don't have to deal with it. Rescuing a cat for their
safety and well being is another matter. Amazing how you are trying make
this guy some kind of hero by saying it is ok to dump these cats and that
human baby's life is worth more than the cats.
As for your comment about my being a doctor in another post, the medical
community has clearly stated in recent articles that children exposed to
cats at an early age can overcome the allergin. I have been seeing it
reported on both the TV news and the newspapers here. Also I know plenty of
people who have allergies but also have cats. My brother is allergic but he
and his wife have 6 cats. They would never dream of dumping or getting rid
of the cats.
It disgusts and angers me to know that some humans treat their cats like
property and not a living breathing creature. These type of people make me
appreciate all the work that a lot of the no-kill shelters do in rescuing
cats.
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Cat Protector <catpro...@cox.net> wrote:
>You saw his posts. He treats cats as if they were items and not lives. You
this may be news to you but this newsgroup is called rec.pets.cats.rescue (even
though it's being cross posted to rec.pets.cats). it's basically set up to
talk about the rescue of cats. obviously getting rid of cats is a last resort.
and everyone knows that cats are lives and not items. while it may sound harsh
and unfortunate, most people will agree that human life is more precious than
the life of a cat.
so if this guy needs to choose b/w the health of his child and the joy that
comes with taking care of a cat, he picks the health of his child.
as far as cats not being meant to live outdoors? that's just plain stupid.
cats, dogs, and all animals are meant to live outdoors. it's man that
domesticated some of them and the animals seem to enjoy it indoors as well, but
their natural instinct is to live outside. go to any zoo and you'll see that
those animals would be much happier running around free in the wild.
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fuga
I really hope you find a good home for these cats as you certainly are not
providing them one yourself.
Your rude mouth and tone are just confirmation that you are not going to be
a very good role model to your children.
Please do not adopt any more pets and you still have much to learn.
Fuga
Jerome O'Neil
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stronger
> defenses against allergies when they grow up. maybe your son will be
happy
> you kept the kittens. i have crazy ass allergies to not just cats, id do
> anything to help keep them down.
I have read that as well. The problem is that he has alergies, so it's too
late to develop resistance to them.
Also, they aren't kittens, they are four years old.
Thanks!
-Jerome
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> No, I did read his posts. I think (just a guess) that he felt like you
were
> attacking him and just responded in a manner that he knew would upset you.
Read his first response.
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=El7i9.78014%2
4Pf7.2279077%40news1.west.cox.net&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-
8%26group%3Drec.pets.cats
The dude is a legitimate nutcase.
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> I really hope you find a good home for these cats as you certainly are not
> providing them one yourself.
You are also free to go fuck yourself. I've proved these cats with a better
home that any two bit closet case that locks his dozen cats into his two
bedroom apartment ever will.
> Your rude mouth and tone are just confirmation that you are not going to
be
> a very good role model to your children.
Tell me what you know about my children, smartass.
Let me sum it up for you.
-You, like your pathetic friend, don't know dick.-
> Please do not adopt any more pets and you still have much to learn.
How many cats you got locked in your apartment?
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OK. One more round, as it seems you've atracted the attention of the rest of
the sane world, and you're pretty amusing.
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> I don't post to amuse myself.
I know. You post in a puffed up attempt to make your pathetic life seem a
little more important than it really is.
It's also pretty amusing.
> Cats are not property. They are lives.
Cats are property. So are cows, chickens, horses, and any other livestock
that I care to go buy and sell on a free market. That's what you do with
property. I can give them away, I can keep them, I can grind them up for
chowder. They belong to me. That makes them property. Q.E.D.
> I know a hell of a lot more about cats then you and I'd put my education
on the subject of
> cats against yours any day of the week.
Yeah yeah. You keep saying this, but it never seems to happen. Yesterday
was a day of the week, and you declined to answer simple questions about the
food chain. This, of course, is strong evidence to support my assertian
that you are a moron blowhard.
> Anyway, I rescue cats because I care very much about them.
I'm getting rid of my cats because I care very much about my children.
How many cats you got locked up in that appartment?
> They are beautiful, intelligent and wonderful creatures.
And lets not forget - Property.
> They deserve loving homes which obviously you prefer not to provide.
Tell me what you think you know about the life that these cats lead.
Once again, "YDKD" (I'm going to abreviate from now on, as I'm getting a
cramp from writing it so much.)
> It is sad to think you are going to teach your values of cats being
property to your kids.
Gather 'round, kids, Dad has a lesson or two...
Lesson one: In a choice between the cat and the person, the person always
wins. No exceptions.
Lesson two: If some subhuman freak ever tries to equate your children with
animals, you are free to tell said freak to go fuck himself, and refer him
to lesson one.
There will be a test.
> Yes, my rescuing cats and educating people about them is a
> humane thing to do.
Dude, you are the *last* person that should be "educating" people about
cats. Your cruel abuse of your animals is well documented.
> You also have no education if you believe cats
> can do just fine outdoors. Try telling that to the rescue shelters who
have
> rescued cats after they were hit by cars or came across a person who
decided
> it would be a kick to abuse them.
Try telling that to Darwin, who tells us that certain charateristics are
selected for in all animals. Predetory animals, like, say, cats, will need
to be outside where they can excercise bolth their bodies and their
predatory insticts. To deny them this is against their nature, and is
therefore cruel. And unhealthy, despite what legions of pasty shut-ins
claim.
If ther rescue shelters are staffed with people as smart as you are, I feel
sorry for the cats.
> It's hard to believe there are people like you in the world who think it
is great
> to do evil and then justify it as no big deal.
I am amazed that there are people in the world who are perfectly happy to
let a child suffer, and think they are doing good.
You are a sicko. Have you ever sought profesisonal help?
> I pitty you though. Just remember that what goes around comes
> around. Those who do malicious acts will be living a long time with that
> karma.
I'd wager that Krishna cares more for my kids than he does your cats.
The wheel of life will recall how you treat your fellow man. You have
chosen to drag him down low with the animals
Karma indeed.
So, as always; Go fuck yourself.
Cat Protector
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fuga
> ----- Original Message -----
> > I really hope you find a good home for these cats as you certainly are
not
> > providing them one yourself.
>
> You are also free to go fuck yourself. I've proved these cats with a
better
> home that any two bit closet case that locks his dozen cats into his two
> bedroom apartment ever will.
>
You have a great future ahead of you .
Fuga
kaeli
enlightened us with
<muci9.358561$_91.4...@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>...
>
> Cats are property. So are cows, chickens, horses, and any other livestock
> that I care to go buy and sell on a free market. That's what you do with
> property. I can give them away, I can keep them, I can grind them up for
> chowder. They belong to me. That makes them property. Q.E.D.
>
Sweet. I think I'll go buy me some property in South Africa. A nice
little human child. See, there it is common to buy humans as property.
Once I buy me a nice child, I can do whatever I want. I can make them
eat what I want, do what I want them to do, or kill them, beat them, and
hurt them as I see fit. They are, after all, my property. So I guess that
makes it right, doesn't it? Cool! Nice to know I can purchase a life as
property. It's that new morality that says if it's legal, it must
be the right thing to do. I like that. Thanks!
Oh, how much for your kid? I can use another to help with chores around
the house.
I hope you get reincarnated as a lab rat.
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Extra Crispy
> Now that is very dumb. Obviously you have no experience in rescue.
>
I've followed this thread with an open mind and at least an attempt to
understand your viewpoint here. But I must say your obvious deep running
emotions for cats are clearly countering your ability for logic.
There was no reason to attack this guy whatsoever. I agree with everyone
else that your viewpoints are quite extreme and I too question whether you
value cat life over human life. You seem to avoid answering that.
Why would you lash out at everyone who disagrees with you? His children are
more important than the cats and I thought it was a good thing for him to
want to find them a home. Your opinions, however, disturb me quite a bit as
you seemed to see his very innocuous annouuncement as some sort of assault
on you personally and your ideology about cats.
No offense, but rescuing cats is the focal point of your life and perhaps
you should find other, people related, interests as this one is clearly
having a negative effect on you as a person. This is not healthy. As a
therapist, I might suggest you talk to someone.
Dr. Ron Gould
Trenton, NJ
Cat Protector
beer cans. You can question all you want about my valuing cats over humans.
I love cats and I think my answers speak for themselves. You are damned
right that I find this person distasteful for wanting to dump these cats
whether it be it another home or at a shelter. Instead of finding me
disturbing why don't you find the original poster disturbing for treating
these cats as if they were mere items rather than a living breathing
creature? Funny how you think I should seek therapy and go in for human
causes when I show my love of cats. Perhaps you need to talk to a therapist
as you seem to support this person by saying that is ok to dump a cat and
not take the responsibility in caring for them throughout their lifetime.
Obviously by your answer you have never been involved in rescue. Look how
many volunteers end up taking in cats that people didn't want. I myself just
recently rescued a cat that someone decided they didn't want. The human
moved away and dumped the cat to fend for himself. Worse yet, the cat was
declawed and was outside. Or how about a recent case in Arizona where
someone adopted a cat from a no-kill shelter for their wife, the wife
claimed health problems and thus instead of taking the cat back to the
shelter she was adopted from, the person took the cat to the Humane Society
and it was euthanized when the cat could have been saved. Want me to go on
or do you get my point now?
Plain and simple from the disturbing responses from the original poster, I
hope that these cats get good and loving homes because this guy plain and
simple is not responsible enoigh to be caring for any animal. Worse yet he
is going to teach his kids his values by saying it is ok to dump an animal
no matter the reason. If you aren't willing to care for the animal for the
rest of their life then you shouldn't adopt them. I don't know how clear and
simple you want me to state this.
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Daniel Paik
kaeli <infinite.po...@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote:
>Sweet. I think I'll go buy me some property in South Africa. A nice
>little human child. See, there it is common to buy humans as property.
>Once I buy me a nice child, I can do whatever I want. I can make them
>eat what I want, do what I want them to do, or kill them, beat them, and
>hurt them as I see fit. They are, after all, my property. So I guess that
>makes it right, doesn't it? Cool! Nice to know I can purchase a life as
>property. It's that new morality that says if it's legal, it must
>be the right thing to do. I like that. Thanks!
do you think a person should go to jail if they buy a plant and due to neglect
(forgetting to give it water) it dies?
Extra Crispy
You are not listening to people who clearly care about you. This defensive
response is your mantra "Obviously by your answer you have never been
involved in rescue" Rescue is not the only thing in life and neither are
cats. Please try to listen to my advice. I really am interested in helping
you and you are not listening to anybody. You only hear what you want to
hear and you have not answered the conjecture that you value cats more than
humans.
I ran across you by mistake, but it could be a good thing for you that I
did. You need only listen. Try to think of me as your friend. I am no enemy
to cats. Nor am I an enemy to humans. I plead with you again to try to
understand these other people's point of view. That you are a person and
should realize that such a seeming distaste for other humans is unhealthy.
Dr. Gould
Priscilla H Ballou
>Sweet. I think I'll go buy me some property in South Africa. A nice
>little human child. See, there it is common to buy humans as property.
This is really offensive. Slavery is not legal in South Africa!
Priscilla
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Kathryn Stein
<catpro...@cox.net> wrote:
>Well here is another post from someone who has decided to dump cats because
>of an easy to solve problem. Let me see, you value the human baby's life
>over another life. People like you disgust me. Instead of solving the
>problem you treat the cats like your human child's diaper and get rid of
>them. Cats should also be indoors as they could fall prey to bad humans, get
>hit by cars or get in fights with other cats. You should never have adopted
>the cats if you weren't willing to care for them. All cats deserve good and
>loving homes.
He Isn't just "dumping" the cats. He's trying to find good homes for
them. I don't happen to agree with him that cats are not part of the
family or that they're property; but he's being alot more responsible
than most by a long shot. What would you do? Put the child in an
orphanage?? Sheesh!
Perhaps you have no idea what asthma can do to a child or to an adult.
Perhaps you have no idea that it kills thousands of people per year,
and that everyone doesn't respond well to treatment for the condition.
~~ Kathi ~~
kst...@blarg.net
suzq
for some time and I believe I know Cat Protector. This other person is
obviously not a cat lover judging by his posts. If you don't think cats are
of value then you should not be in this newsgroup. If faced with saving a
baby from certain death and saving a kitten or cat from certain death I
would choose the human baby but that doesn't mean I would not regret being
able to save the cat. I would be sorrowful about not being able to save the
cat.
You are not a cat lover if you believe that cats can be discarded with ease.
Judging by your response you believe they are inconsequential.
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suzq
people. I do think more of cats than I do of people because I have seen what
people do.
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so. I am well aware of what asthma is all about but it has nothing do with
cats or even caused by them. I have seen the new baby excuse, allergy, etc
as an excuse to dump the cats way too many times. I am frankly tired of
people's irresponsibility. He should not have adopted those cats if he was
not willing to take care of them full time. Having an animal is a lifetime
responsibility not a part time one.
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pissed because I have the guts to stand up you opposing forces and say "no
more dumping of animals."
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> Yes he is just dumping the cats. He is using the child as an excuse to do
> so. I am well aware of what asthma is all about but it has nothing do with
> cats or even caused by them. I have seen the new baby excuse, allergy, etc
> as an excuse to dump the cats way too many times. I am frankly tired of
> people's irresponsibility. He should not have adopted those cats if he was
> not willing to take care of them full time. Having an animal is a lifetime
> responsibility not a part time one.
>
> --
Once again, please provide your medical credentials that show you have ANY
knowledge of medicine other than what you see on TV.
Still waiting...
Cat Protector
those who treat cats like items are disgusting.
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behind in an abandoned apartment because the person got evicted and they
never came back for her. I ended up adopting the cat. The other one was
abandoned because the people moved and left the cat behind. Worse yet the
cat was declawed and outdoors. I got him to Sun Valley who is now caring for
him and hopefully can find him a good home. Sun Valley is no-kill.
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Jerome O'Neil
> I see you are a gentleman and scholar. Very well educated and abusive.
And I see you are neither.
> You have a great future ahead of you .
Of course. You fave a future consisting of you, your dozen cats, and...
well, that's about it.
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Jerome O'Neil
> Sweet. I think I'll go buy me some property in South Africa. A nice
> little human child.
Which is the logical conclusion freaks arrive at when they equate animals
with humans.
> See, there it is common to buy humans as property.
No it's not. Your hyperbole is as weak as your argument.
> Once I buy me a nice child, I can do whatever I want. I can make them
> eat what I want, do what I want them to do, or kill them, beat them, and
> hurt them as I see fit. They are, after all, my property.
I hate to break it to you sis, but you get most of this with kids just by
having them the old fashioned way.
You wouldn't know that, of course, being a lonely shut-in.
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Jerome O'Neil
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> No offense, but rescuing cats is the focal point of your life and perhaps
> you should find other, people related, interests as this one is clearly
> having a negative effect on you as a person. This is not healthy. As a
> therapist, I might suggest you talk to someone.
Well there ya' go. A professional opinion. The nutter needs some help.
I have come to understand there is to be a candlelight vigil on behalf of my
poor, abused feline assets.
What do you make of that?
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> He Isn't just "dumping" the cats. He's trying to find good homes for
> them. I don't happen to agree with him that cats are not part of the
> family or that they're property; but he's being alot more responsible
> than most by a long shot.
A reasonable disenting opinion, prooving once again that not all cat people
are raving lunatics.
> What would you do? Put the child in an orphanage?? Sheesh!
She'd let him wheeze and cough and let his nose run and his eyes itch and
let his sleep be constantly inturupted because he is unable to breath. In
her delusion, she'd ensure us that she's some big humanitarian because her
kitties are comfy. But the kitties are just as miserable because they're
locked in an appartment, with no chance of ever climbing a tree, stalking a
mouse, or any other thing that cats like to do.
She is a cruel, sick person.
Anyway, I appreciate your opinion on the status of cats, even if we don't
agree.
Sincerely,
pallasg...@yahoo.com
> I myself rescued at least two cats that someone didn't want. One was left
> behind in an abandoned apartment because the person got evicted and they
> never came back for her. I ended up adopting the cat. The other one was
> abandoned because the people moved and left the cat behind. Worse yet the
> cat was declawed and outdoors. I got him to Sun Valley who is now caring
for
> him and hopefully can find him a good home. Sun Valley is no-kill.
>
> --
I don't think anyone was doubting that you love cats or work to help those
that need to be rescued...
fuga
I'm not the one complaining about having too many cats. I most certainly do
not have a dozen cats.
You really should look at how you are handling this, your manner is very
aggressive and not very productive if you are truly sincere about finding a
home for your cats. Take your hostility and try to take that energy and use
it for something positive instead of ranting false accusations.
What sort of things have you tried to find new homes for these cats, aside
from starting a flame war on the newsgroup and posting a message that they
need a new home.
Fuga
Jerome O'Neil
> Listen,
>
> I'm not the one complaining about having too many cats. I most certainly
do
> not have a dozen cats.
Apparently illiteracy runs with the same gene that causes cat lunacy.
I'm not complaining about too many cats, either.
> You really should look at how you are handling this, your manner is very
> aggressive and not very productive if you are truly sincere about finding
a
> home for your cats.
Bullshit. I posted a perfectly reasonable request for interested parties
that might be interested in the cats. The raving lunatics, of which you are
one, promptly jumped out from their padded cells and started a rukus. I've
been posting to usenet for a lot of years, and find the odd flame fest
fairly entertaining. But it's not my manner thats aggressive, it's your
fellow basket case's.
> Take your hostility and try to take that energy and use
> it for something positive instead of ranting false accusations.
I'll place my hostility with those that earn it.
> What sort of things have you tried to find new homes for these cats, aside
> from starting a flame war on the newsgroup and posting a message that they
> need a new home.
You mean you don't know? I thought you freaks knew all about me.
Go figgure.
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kaeli
enlightened us with <H2pF...@world.std.com>...
> In rec.pets.cats.rescue kaeli <infinite.po...@nospamatt.net> wrote:
>
> >Sweet. I think I'll go buy me some property in South Africa. A nice
> >little human child. See, there it is common to buy humans as property.
>
> This is really offensive. Slavery is not legal in South Africa!
>
> Priscilla
>
I am sorry you are offended. It may not be totally legal, but it sure is
common if it is illegal.
http://www.anti-slaverysociety.addr.com/tocslavery.htm
Note that my rant was anti-slavery and opposed to the ownership of any
life. I was certainly not condoning it! Perhaps my sarcasm was lost...
kaeli
uc...@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU enlightened us with
<amdctt$1n8e$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>...
>
> do you think a person should go to jail if they buy a plant and due to neglect
> (forgetting to give it water) it dies?
>
> Dan.
>
>
No. Do you?
Do you think it's okay for someone to abuse an animal because it's
property?
kaeli
enlightened us with
<Zkvi9.369662$_91.4...@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>...
> "kaeli" <infinite.po...@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote in message
>
> > Sweet. I think I'll go buy me some property in South Africa. A nice
> > little human child.
>
> Which is the logical conclusion freaks arrive at when they equate animals
> with humans.
>
Which is the logical conclusion some people come to when presented with
compassion for life. I suppose all vegans are freaks and shut-ins, then?
If you believe that, you really don't get out much.
Animals aren't people. But they don't deserve to be abused because they
are "property" either.
> > See, there it is common to buy humans as property.
>
> No it's not. Your hyperbole is as weak as your argument.
>
Oh?
http://www.anti-slaverysociety.addr.com/tocslavery.htm
One site of many.
Watch the news much? Oh, wait, I forgot, I'm a shut-in. I must watch more
tv than you. You must have way better things to do than keep up with the
current state of the world beyond your little town.
> > Once I buy me a nice child, I can do whatever I want. I can make them
> > eat what I want, do what I want them to do, or kill them, beat them, and
> > hurt them as I see fit. They are, after all, my property.
>
> I hate to break it to you sis, but you get most of this with kids just by
> having them the old fashioned way.
>
I'd hate to be your child if you believe killing them and beating them is
something you get by having one. Is your child your property then? Please
tell me I misinterpreted your reply.
> You wouldn't know that, of course, being a lonely shut-in.
>
And you'd know, of course, since you know all about me, don't you?
Prejudiced about people who have concern for animals much? You keep on
presuming, making assumptions, and lumping people together. It'll get you
far in the world.
kaeli
enlightened us with <E2vi9.44268$S32.2...@news2.west.cox.net>...
> Thanks for the backup. The true cat lovers have to stick together. I think
> those who treat cats like items are disgusting.
>
You know, that's what really gets me. It's not that I value cats more
than people. It's that cats are not items or property to be treated
however one wishes to treat them.
kaeli
enlightened us with <Hkoi9.14008$Ba3.6...@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>...
>
> No offense, but rescuing cats is the focal point of your life and perhaps
> you should find other, people related, interests as this one is clearly
> having a negative effect on you as a person. This is not healthy. As a
> therapist, I might suggest you talk to someone.
>
Do you often go around telling other people what's healthy when you don't
really know anything about them? How would you possibly know what anyone
on this NG is like in person - if they are happy or not, well-adjusted or
not, or have relationships with people or not? Just because someone is
passionate about a cause that isn't people-focused doesn't make them in
need of therapy. Dian Fossey needed therapy, eh? I'm sure she'd be happy
to know your opinion of her. (If you don't recall the name, she did a lot
of work saving the gorillas)
Jeanette
> enlightened us with <Hkoi9.14008$Ba3.6...@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>...
> >
> > No offense, but rescuing cats is the focal point of your life and
perhaps
> > you should find other, people related, interests as this one is clearly
> > having a negative effect on you as a person. This is not healthy. As a
> > therapist, I might suggest you talk to someone.
> >
getting out making the world a better place by helping animals is a better
use of my time than sitting around getting 'therapy'.
Jeanette
Priscilla H Ballou
>And on the day Thu, 19 Sep 2002 21:22:12 GMT, p...@shell01.TheWorld.com
>enlightened us with <H2pF...@world.std.com>...
>> In rec.pets.cats.rescue kaeli <infinite.po...@nospamatt.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Sweet. I think I'll go buy me some property in South Africa. A nice
>> >little human child. See, there it is common to buy humans as property.
>>
>> This is really offensive. Slavery is not legal in South Africa!
>I am sorry you are offended. It may not be totally legal, but it sure is
>common if it is illegal.
>http://www.anti-slaverysociety.addr.com/tocslavery.htm
In South Africa? Please show me a reference to slavery in SOUTH AFRICA.
>Note that my rant was anti-slavery and opposed to the ownership of any
>life. I was certainly not condoning it! Perhaps my sarcasm was lost...
I have a number of friends and coworkers from South Africa, and they would
be horrified if they knew that someone was slandering their country this
way.
Extra Crispy
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I am very familiar with Dian. In fact, I know that she would have protected
a human child over a gorilla if the choice was forced upon her. Your own
species is and should be first and foremost. If any of the cats that you
rescued had kittens who were threatened (even in a seemingly innocuous
"allergic"way) by a human they would certainly do whatever was necessary to
protect those offspring. It is the nature of all animals, including humans.
I'm surprised and disheartened that others here actually support the
opinions of this person, cat protector, who is in need of help.
I'm afraid our society allows too many people to become delusional about the
reality of nature. Any right minded person with children here would
certainly agree with that.
Dr. Gould
Extra Crispy
"Jerome O'Neil" <jerome...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Please, this is not about being right. There are disenfranchised people here
who need some help coming back to the human race. I woud like to give that
help.
Dr. Gould
Antique
You have forgotten where you are posting. This is a *cat* rescue NG not a "Dr. ghoul's opinion"
NG. It's not about you. Bug off.
Cat Protector
lovers on this group who would support the non dumping of animals. BTW, from
what I know about Dian Foossey she definitely would have saved a gorilla
over a human. The gorillas in fact were heavily killed by humans and she
protected them against poachers. Are you trying to say human life is more
important than any other life. You keep signing your name as being a doctor
but you have obviously no clue about compassion. Cats are lives and not beer
cans or disposable items. It is really disgusting that you would promote the
dimping of animals and see those trying to rescue or save them as being ill.
I guess if compassion is wrong I don't want to be right.
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kaeli
enlightened us with <H2r3D...@world.std.com>...
> >I am sorry you are offended. It may not be totally legal, but it sure is
> >common if it is illegal.
> >http://www.anti-slaverysociety.addr.com/tocslavery.htm
>
> In South Africa? Please show me a reference to slavery in SOUTH AFRICA.
>
Thank you for the education. I didn't realize South Africa was so
different from the rest of the country. I didn't find nearly as many
articles on South Africa as West Africa. I guess I should have used that
in my example. I am always desiring to learn, so I do honestly thank you
for the incentive to research this topic.
However, I did find these references to modern day slavery in South
Africa, if you are interested.
http://www.worldpaper.com/Archivewp/1999/May99/koch.html
http://www.acdppta.org.za/Press/Slavery13Jun02.htm
http://www.afrol.com/News2001/sa026_childlabour_raid.htm
http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/5754#Angola
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1436329.stm
kaeli
enlightened us with <9vKi9.20266$P77.4...@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>...
> > >
> >
> > Do you often go around telling other people what's healthy when you don't
> > really know anything about them? How would you possibly know what anyone
> > on this NG is like in person - if they are happy or not, well-adjusted or
> > not, or have relationships with people or not? Just because someone is
> > passionate about a cause that isn't people-focused doesn't make them in
> > need of therapy. Dian Fossey needed therapy, eh? I'm sure she'd be happy
> > to know your opinion of her. (If you don't recall the name, she did a lot
> > of work saving the gorillas)
> >
>
> I am very familiar with Dian. In fact, I know that she would have protected
> a human child over a gorilla if the choice was forced upon her. Your own
> species is and should be first and foremost. If any of the cats that you
> rescued had kittens who were threatened (even in a seemingly innocuous
> "allergic"way) by a human they would certainly do whatever was necessary to
> protect those offspring. It is the nature of all animals, including humans.
> I'm surprised and disheartened that others here actually support the
> opinions of this person, cat protector, who is in need of help.
>
Number one - that's not what I said.
Please re-read the post. I said people don't need therapy because they
have a focus that is not people-oriented. I also said that human life
does come above animals, however, that was in another post, so you
probably missed it.
Number two - who are you to decide who "needs help"? Arrogant much?
Jerome O'Neil
> Animals aren't people. But they don't deserve to be abused because they
> are "property" either.
Yep. Illiteracy runs with cat nuttism. Which cats, in particular, have
been abused?
> > >See, there it is common to buy humans as property.
> >
> > No it's not. Your hyperbole is as weak as your argument.
> >
> Oh?
> http://www.anti-slaverysociety.addr.com/tocslavery.htm
> One site of many.
Smells like bullshit. Yep. It's bullshit.
Let me quote the website you present:
"Although there is no longer any state which recognizes any claim by a
person to a right of property over another, there are an estimated 2.7
million people throughout the world - mainly children - in conditions of
slavery. "
Next time, you might try reading the website, instead of the headlines that
come up on Google.
So get back in your hole, and shut up.
> I'd hate to be your child if you believe killing them and beating them is
> something you get by having one. Is your child your property then? Please
> tell me I misinterpreted your reply.
For all practical purposes, yes. As parents, we weild an unusual amount of
influence over the behavior and actions of our children. This is recognized
in law, as it should be.
> And you'd know, of course, since you know all about me, don't you?
> Prejudiced about people who have concern for animals much? You keep on
Nope. Prejudiced against people that drag humanity down to the level of
animals.
That would be you.
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Jerome O'Neil
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> I'm afraid our society allows too many people to become delusional about
the
> reality of nature. Any right minded person with children here would
> certainly agree with that.
Certainly. I took concious effort to not respond to the poster that said if
she had to choose between the life of a child and the life of a cat, that
she would choose the child. As if there were even a consideration!
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Jerome O'Neil
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> It is usually best to charge money for a cat since it
> will help find someone who is committed to taking care of
> a cat. Any reasonable fee ($40 - $50 per cat) is nowhere near
> the cost of the care of a cat for a year.
I've heard this from several people (I'm assuming it's a canned response :).
My primary interest is in ensuring the cats land in a good home. If I can
do that at no charge, so much the better.
A director from a rescue shelter sent me a copy of the questionair they use
to place animals. It's pretty good, and I'll certainly use that as a guide
when interviewing prospective owners.
Thanks!
Priscilla Ballou
kaeli <infinite.po...@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote:
> And on the day Fri, 20 Sep 2002 18:58:33 GMT, p...@shell01.TheWorld.com
> enlightened us with <H2r3D...@world.std.com>...
>
> > >I am sorry you are offended. It may not be totally legal, but it sure is
> > >common if it is illegal.
> > >http://www.anti-slaverysociety.addr.com/tocslavery.htm
> >
> > In South Africa? Please show me a reference to slavery in SOUTH AFRICA.
> >
>
> Thank you for the education. I didn't realize South Africa was so
> different from the rest of the country.
Country? Try continent. Africa is a HUGE continent on which can be
found many many different cultures, languages, and peoples. There is
very little that can be said universally of all countries in Africa.
> I didn't find nearly as many
> articles on South Africa as West Africa. I guess I should have used that
> in my example. I am always desiring to learn, so I do honestly thank you
> for the incentive to research this topic.
You're welcome.
> However, I did find these references to modern day slavery in South
> Africa, if you are interested.
> http://www.worldpaper.com/Archivewp/1999/May99/koch.html
> http://www.acdppta.org.za/Press/Slavery13Jun02.htm
> http://www.afrol.com/News2001/sa026_childlabour_raid.htm
> http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/5754#Angola
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1436329.stm
South Africa has come a very long way since they were able to shake off
apartheid and the dominance of whites, but there is still a ways to
come, apparently. In my office we've had people from South Africa of
every hue and many different languages. Universally they are
intelligent, lovely people who have a deep love of the great beauty and
potential of their home country.
I think we've gone w-a-a-a-a-a-y off topic now.
Priscilla
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and a deeper sense of gratitude." Diane Keaton
kaeli
enlightened us with <vze23t8n-
DD6F07.113...@news.bellatlantic.net>...
>
> I think we've gone w-a-a-a-a-a-y off topic now.
>
> Priscilla
>
Yes, I think so too, so I'll just say thanks again and I'm glad I learned
so much from this discussion.
kaeli
enlightened us with
<yxSi9.382155$_91.4...@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>...
>
> Nope. Prejudiced against people that drag humanity down to the level of
> animals.
>
> That would be you.
>
>
You are a sad example of my fellow humans. I'm done with you.
There is no point in trying to get you to see compassion, as you have
none to give. There is no point in trying to have a discussion with
someone who can only respond with jabs, invectives, and cursing (do you
kiss your kids with that mouth?) rather than facts. Someday you may grow
up into a man who can have a discussion about a particular topic, rather
than try to turn it around into something else because you have no
recourse in logic. You'll note, if you bother to re-read the thread, my
original problem was with animals treated as property and slaves. I never
once said animals were *better* than people.
Bye-bye. I hope your children get a better education in logic and
rationality (and manners) than you did.
Rat Lover
<catpro...@cox.net> wrote:
>You mean to tell me you are disheartened because there are actually cat
>lovers on this group who would support the non dumping of animals. BTW, from
>what I know about Dian Foossey she definitely would have saved a gorilla
>over a human. The gorillas in fact were heavily killed by humans and she
>protected them against poachers. Are you trying to say human life is more
>important than any other life. You keep signing your name as being a doctor
>but you have obviously no clue about compassion. Cats are lives and not beer
>cans or disposable items. It is really disgusting that you would promote the
>dimping of animals and see those trying to rescue or save them as being ill.
>I guess if compassion is wrong I don't want to be right.
>
>
I do agree with the non dumping of cats. After all they do make an
excellent stew.
Rat Lover
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wrote:
>
>"Cat Protector" <catpro...@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:Rwci9.40030$S32.2...@news2.west.cox.net...
>> Now that is very dumb. Obviously you have no experience in rescue.
>>
>
>I've followed this thread with an open mind and at least an attempt to
>understand your viewpoint here. But I must say your obvious deep running
>emotions for cats are clearly countering your ability for logic.
>
>There was no reason to attack this guy whatsoever. I agree with everyone
>else that your viewpoints are quite extreme and I too question whether you
>value cat life over human life. You seem to avoid answering that.
>
They won't answer your question here because the reality isn't pc.
They would much rather rescue a cat than a human. I have been to
forums where the discussion is quite frank about his where people say
they would step over a human in a disaster to save an animal.
>Why would you lash out at everyone who disagrees with you? His children are
>more important than the cats and I thought it was a good thing for him to
>want to find them a home. Your opinions, however, disturb me quite a bit as
>you seemed to see his very innocuous annouuncement as some sort of assault
>on you personally and your ideology about cats.
>
>No offense, but rescuing cats is the focal point of your life and perhaps
>you should find other, people related, interests as this one is clearly
>having a negative effect on you as a person. This is not healthy. As a
>therapist, I might suggest you talk to someone.
>
>Dr. Ron Gould
>Trenton, NJ
>
>
>
>
Rat Lover
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Jeanette
>
> Please, this is not about being right. There are disenfranchised people
here
> who need some help coming back to the human race. I woud like to give that
> help.
>
> Dr. Gould
>
frlpwr
>
(snip)
> If you ask me this man is cruel and doesn't deserve the right to have
> any animal in his home.
He already stated that his cats spend the day outside. How hard could
it be to let the cats sleep in an area of the house away from the child,
install multiple air purifiers, bathe the cats regularly? If his first
impluse was not to throw the cats out on their asses, he could even
build a separate structure in the yard to house the cats. I know many
people who have children with allergies (I have them myself) that have
worked out a way to keep animals and protect their children. Mr. O'Neil
is simply not interested in making the effort.
Clearly, the man has never bonded to his cats. If he had, he would not
consider removing the cats anymore than he would consider removing an
older sibling who displayed jealousy and disregard for the younger
child.
There are many allergy triggers. Chances are that the child will suffer
from allergies whether the cats are in the home or not. I must assume
that the original poster has already removed all carpets, rugs,
mattresses, synthetic materials of any kinds, varnished furniture and
flooring, wool garments and upholstery, books, newsprint, chemical
cleansers and disinfectants, enamel painted objects, plants and trees in
and around his home. I must assume that he plans to keep his child away
from cars and buses, from heated, cooled and forced air, rain, dew,
grass, soil, dust, school, playgrounds and other children. I must
assume he plans to relocate to a dry, warm climate and surround himself
with concrete. I'm certain that he has already moved away from cities
and towns to avoid particulate air pollution.
It's not the cats' fault that his kid has a weak immune system. He
would be doing the child a favor by helping him build up his tolerance
to allergens by gradually increasing his exposure to various triggers,
including the cats. Most children outgrow their allergies, but not if
they are kept in a sterile environment.
> What is worse is this guy is more than likely to
> teach his kids that it is ok to dump an animal.
>
This was my first reaction, too. People without empathy foster
uncompassionate children. People who look for the easy way out foster
selfish, unimaginative children. Is this something our society needs
more of? IMO, the man shouldn't have cats OR children, but
unfortunately, it's too late.
Extra Crispy
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 14:03:00 -0400, "Extra Crispy" <not...@bolton.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Cat Protector" <catpro...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >news:Rwci9.40030$S32.2...@news2.west.cox.net...
> >> Now that is very dumb. Obviously you have no experience in rescue.
> >>
> >
> >I've followed this thread with an open mind and at least an attempt to
> >understand your viewpoint here. But I must say your obvious deep running
> >emotions for cats are clearly countering your ability for logic.
> >
> >There was no reason to attack this guy whatsoever. I agree with everyone
> >else that your viewpoints are quite extreme and I too question whether
you
> >value cat life over human life. You seem to avoid answering that.
> >
>
> They won't answer your question here because the reality isn't pc.
> They would much rather rescue a cat than a human. I have been to
> forums where the discussion is quite frank about his where people say
> they would step over a human in a disaster to save an animal.
>
I tend to suspect you are right. There are several identity disorders that
may result in this particular anomalous emotional imbalance. I plan to spend
some time here observing and diagnosing. In fact this newsgroup I think may
make for an interesting case study. I hope to write an article.
Dr. Gould
Extra Crispy
> You mean to tell me you are disheartened because there are actually cat
> lovers on this group who would support the non dumping of animals. BTW,
from
> what I know about Dian Foossey she definitely would have saved a gorilla
> over a human.
That is completely inaccurate. She has written and mentioned on several
occasions that she felt gorillas had a lot to teach humans about loyalty and
caring for others. She followed this philosophy very piously. Why would she
not follow her own example? YOU just want everyone to think like you. It's
projection.
The gorillas in fact were heavily killed by humans and she
> protected them against poachers. Are you trying to say human life is more
> important than any other life.
Yes that's right but it doesn't mean she would let a human die over a
gorilla. You're just projecting.
Human life should be more important to a human. It is that way with EVERY
other species in nature. Your cats would kill you in a heartbeat if it meant
protecting their own kittens. Jerome was completely right to want to get rid
of his cats.
> You keep signing your name as being a doctor
> but you have obviously no clue about compassion.
And you have no clue how to listen. I'm not surprised you find cats as more
palpable companions
> Cats are lives and not beer
> cans or disposable items. It is really disgusting that you would promote
the
> dimping of animals and see those trying to rescue or save them as being
ill.
> I guess if compassion is wrong I don't want to be right.
>
Here again you don't listen to a word that has been said and you repeat the
same mantra-esque lines over and over. Do you know that is exactly how
members of cults behave when they are confronted about their religion?
No one in this entire thread has stated that rescuing cats is wrong. Yet all
you do is act like EVERYONE is saying that to you. All any of the other
respondents have said is that valuing cats over people is wrong and you
attacking Jerome was inappropriate.
But I suppose my saying that makes me ignorant and incompassionate towards
cats, since that's all you seem to hear. Cat Protector, you are either the
most brilliant troll in history or in serious need of psychological
assistance. But I am no longer interested in helping you as you clearly will
not be helped.
Dr. Gould (Holistic mentalist and Phobatherapist)
Antique
From your padded cell?
Cat Protector
here apparently. BTW, I do believe that according to the movie done about
Fossey's life it was humans who killed her. So where is your hypothesis of
how wonderful humans are now? You claim to be a doctor and yet not only are
your facts wrong but you also lack a doctor's compassion. As for my being a
troll, how wrong you are. I have been a fixture on these cats groups for a
long time and am also involved involved in rescue. Am I passionate about
cats, you bet. I love cats so much I started a radio station for cats. On
the air and off the air I educate people about cats. So I practice what I
preach. You on the other hand come on here and not only give support to
people who dump cats but also seem to give them some kind of hero status.
Then you tell those who rescue felines that they need some kind of
psychiatric help. You have a lot of damned nerve. If rescuing cats and
loving them is wrong then I definately don't want to be right. As for you
helping me, that is a laugh. Your kind of help is something people don't
need. I'll stick with getting help from the cat loving community which is
something you definately are not a part of.
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"Extra Crispy" <not...@bolton.com> wrote in message
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Extra Crispy
> Completely inaccurate in your eyes but certainly not mine and few other
eyes
> here apparently. BTW, I do believe that according to the movie done about
> Fossey's life it was humans who killed her. So where is your hypothesis of
> how wonderful humans are now? You claim to be a doctor and yet not only
are
> your facts wrong but you also lack a doctor's compassion.
More refusal to listen. Jesus was killed by humans, so was Martin Luther
King. What doeas that have to do with anything? Point out what "facts" I
stated that were wrong. The only facts I stated were that you seem to value
the life of a cat more than a human. You attacked soemone who was trying to
find cats a good home (Not, "Dumping" them, as you insist on calling it.)
> As for my being a
> troll, how wrong you are. I have been a fixture on these cats groups for a
> long time and am also involved involved in rescue. Am I passionate about
> cats, you bet. I love cats so much I started a radio station for cats.
Do a lot of cats listen?
> On
> the air and off the air I educate people about cats. So I practice what I
> preach. You on the other hand come on here and not only give support to
> people who dump cats but also seem to give them some kind of hero status.
When did I give them a hero status? I just labeled them as having a normal,
"Human" reaction. And I've labelled you as in need of therapy for failing to
see that as normal. Do you have children?
> Then you tell those who rescue felines that they need some kind of
> psychiatric help.
Not "those". Just you.
>You have a lot of damned nerve. If rescuing cats and
> loving them is wrong then I definately don't want to be right.
Again, you are being bull headed and not listening to anything. Nobody, me
or anyone else, has said rescuing cats is wrong. In fact I just got done
saying it wasn't wrong. Are you reading my posts or just exercising a knee
jerk reaction? You're fabricating things that I have not said. How blind do
you have to be to realize this?
> As for you
> helping me, that is a laugh. Your kind of help is something people don't
> need. I'll stick with getting help from the cat loving community which is
> something you definately are not a part of.
>
You do realize you are a human and not a cat, right?
Truth in motion
No "it" doesn't. You are absolutely right, Dr. Gould. I've been monitoring
all of this and Cat Protector would clearly let a human die over a cat any
day. "It" loves to avoid this question. I demand to hear an answer.
Cat Protector, you love to use the slogan on others that they are less noble
than you because They don't "have the guts" to stand up to cat abusers.
Let's see you "Have the guts" to admit you care about cats more than people.
You are a k00k and so is your friend Kaeli. She won't admit it either, but
she feels the same way.
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Cat Protector
animals. Hmm... then firefighters must be cooks to you for rescuing them. I
bet you also feel the ASPCA is also wacko for having people who rescue them.
Your opinion really doesn't matter to me. I think you are a wack job and
disgusting for supporting people who dump cats.
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"Truth in motion" <gari...@kook.com> wrote in message
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Truth in motion
> So, in your words people are kooky because they actually care about
rescuing
> animals. Hmm... then firefighters must be cooks to you for rescuing them.
I
> bet you also feel the ASPCA is also wacko for having people who rescue
them.
> Your opinion really doesn't matter to me. I think you are a wack job and
> disgusting for supporting people who dump cats.
You would assume that, K00k. Especially considering that no one in this
thread was talking about dumping cats. The guy was talking about finding his
cats a new home because his baby was allergic to them. He was asking someone
who would care for them to give them a home.You somehow seem to find that to
be an inhumane crime. explain how that is again...
Truth in motion
>
> "Cat Protector" <catpro...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:4XLj9.103550$Pf7.3...@news1.west.cox.net...
> > So, in your words people are kooky because they actually care about
> rescuing
> > animals. Hmm... then firefighters must be cooks to you for rescuing
them.
> I
> > bet you also feel the ASPCA is also wacko for having people who rescue
> them.
> > Your opinion really doesn't matter to me. I think you are a wack job and
> > disgusting for supporting people who dump cats.
>
> You would assume that, K00k. Especially considering that no one in this
> thread was talking about dumping cats. The guy was talking about finding
his
> cats a new home because his baby was allergic to them. He was asking
someone
> who would care for them to give them a home.You somehow seem to find that
to
> be an inhumane crime. explain how that is again...
>
By the way, you still didn't answer the question, I noticed. Don't you "have
the guts"?
Cat Protector
Oh come on. Is kook the best name you can come up with? And dumping his cats
is exactly what this guy was doing. You and his supporters are just trying
to sugar coat it.
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Truth in motion
>
> Oh come on. Is kook the best name you can come up with? And dumping his
cats
> is exactly what this guy was doing. You and his supporters are just trying
> to sugar coat it.
>
Gving cats to a good home is dumping? explain please...
Truth in motion
> Don't you have the guts to shut up! I think I stated my case quite
clearly.
>
Still didn't asnwer the question. I'm not surprised. Are you melting down,
K00k?
Flaagg
Protector <catpro...@cox.net> says...
>So, in your words people are kooky because they actually care about rescuing
>animals. Hmm... then firefighters must be cooks to you for rescuing them. I
>bet you also feel the ASPCA is also wacko for having people who rescue them.
>Your opinion really doesn't matter to me. I think you are a wack job and
>disgusting for supporting people who dump cats.
"Dumped" cats keep the rodent population down. The selfish morons who
won't let their precious pussies out of the house are the real
criminals.
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suzq
cats are just like cattle. As cat lovers we will never get the "others" to
see our point of view so let's not waste threads trying. Cat Protector, you
have spoken eloquently in favor of us cat lovers but I will just "iggy"
those like Extra Crispy and Antique who are obviously of the "other"
variety. If you enjoy a good argument go ahead but I don't want to waste my
time on them. As for me, they are on ignore from now on.news:El7i9.78014$Pf7.2...@news1.west.cox.net...
> Actually there is no difference to this scenario. I think you want to
share
> in this guy's sugar coating of the deal. Both dump the problem on someone
> else so that they don't have to deal with it. Rescuing a cat for their
> safety and well being is another matter. Amazing how you are trying make
> this guy some kind of hero by saying it is ok to dump these cats and that
> human baby's life is worth more than the cats.
>
> As for your comment about my being a doctor in another post, the medical
> community has clearly stated in recent articles that children exposed to
> cats at an early age can overcome the allergin. I have been seeing it
> reported on both the TV news and the newspapers here. Also I know plenty
of
> people who have allergies but also have cats. My brother is allergic but
he
> and his wife have 6 cats. They would never dream of dumping or getting rid
> of the cats.
>
> It disgusts and angers me to know that some humans treat their cats like
> property and not a living breathing creature. These type of people make me
> appreciate all the work that a lot of the no-kill shelters do in rescuing
> cats.
>
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> news:amanb0$o56$1...@newshost.mot.com...
> > It is different. One action contributes to the over-populated shelters;
> the
> > other places the cat in a loving home.
> >
> >
>
>
trippy
<MPG.17f934e9e...@netnews.attbi.com>, said the following
tripped out things....
> In article <4XLj9.103550$Pf7.3...@news1.west.cox.net>, Cat
> Protector <catpro...@cox.net> says...
>
> >So, in your words people are kooky because they actually care about rescuing
> >animals. Hmm... then firefighters must be cooks to you for rescuing them. I
> >bet you also feel the ASPCA is also wacko for having people who rescue them.
> >Your opinion really doesn't matter to me. I think you are a wack job and
> >disgusting for supporting people who dump cats.
>
> "Dumped" cats keep the rodent population down.
Unless of course, they act like my cats who watch whatever thing is
crawling around and bop it on head once and watch as it crawls away from
the huge flesh-thing that's bopping it on the head. Eat, crap, wedge
themselves in my bed. That's all the little fuckers are good for (the
cats, not the bugs).
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Bob Brenchly.
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"Flaagg" <flaagg@REMOVE_TO_EMAIL_attbi.com> wrote in message
Flaagg
Protector <catpro...@cox.net> says...
>Another disgusting troll who obviously has been taking too many lessons from
>Bob Brenchly.
I don't know any Bob Brenchly, but I do know that wild cats control
the rat population, and keeping cats locked up in your house is
animal abuse. Anyone that disagrees is a dog lover or a moron.
Cat Protector
animals are disgusting. I think they should visit the shelters and see the
end results of their behavior. People who dump animals after adopting them,
no matter how much they sugar coat it should see exactly the kind of meaness
and evil they are causing. I feel bad for but applaud those no-kill shelters
who are rescuing cats in order to save them and hopefully give them a chance
at a long healthy life full of love and happiness. It's sad to know there
are people who toss cats away as if they were objects but it makes me
appreciate the other side that sees them as lives and gives something of
themselves to save them. For those that dump cats remember what goes around
comes around and one day it will be twice fold. You may find yourself in
need and then wonder why no help was given. Then you can look back and
finally realize that dumping that cat or treating them badly was the wrong
thing to do. Of course by that time you cat dumpers will be going through
pure hell. Who knows, someone may dump you. Dumping a cat is wrong and I
will keep working to help save felines when I can simply because I care.
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"suzq" <sue_s...@gate.net> wrote in message
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Jerome O'Neil
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> And on the day Sat, 21 Sep 2002 04:26:06 GMT, jerome...@yahoo.com
> enlightened us with
> <yxSi9.382155$_91.4...@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>...
> >
> > Nope. Prejudiced against people that drag humanity down to the level of
> > animals.
> >
> > That would be you.
> >
> >
>
> You are a sad example of my fellow humans.
Right. You're the one that thinks your animals are the same as people. If
your "fellow humans" are anything like you, they aren't human.
> I'm done with you.
Well it's about time. Does this mean you'll stop humping my leg now? I was
getting a bit chaffed.
> There is no point in trying to get you to see compassion, as you have
> none to give.
From the one that would let a human child suffer, this is high praise.
> There is no point in trying to have a discussion with
> someone who can only respond with jabs, invectives, and cursing (do you
> kiss your kids with that mouth?) rather than facts.
The facts are that you are degenerate nutjob.
> You'll note, if you bother to re-read the thread, my
> original problem was with animals treated as property and slaves.
Animals are property. It's the law, and it's as it should be.
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> I tend to suspect you are right. There are several identity disorders that
> may result in this particular anomalous emotional imbalance. I plan to
spend
> some time here observing and diagnosing. In fact this newsgroup I think
may
> make for an interesting case study. I hope to write an article.
Oh man, I would love to read that. I'm generaly a skeptic when it comes to
things psychological (there are "nutters" and "other" in my book) but I'd
happily suspend my disbelief for that.
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think
> cats are just like cattle.
Exactly.
For the record, I'm of the "just like cattle" (but not as tasty) mind. I
respect your right to be different than me.
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"Cat Protector" <catpro...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> So, in your words people are kooky because they actually care about
rescuing
> animals. Hmm... then firefighters must be cooks to you for rescuing them.
Bwahhhhhhhhh!!!!!
Call your local FD, and tell them kitty is up in a tree. Listen as they
laugh.
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"Cat Protector" <catpro...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
> Oh come on. Is kook the best name you can come up with? And dumping his
cats
> is exactly what this guy was doing. You and his supporters are just trying
> to sugar coat it.
I have supporters?!!
Woohoo!
Pleas tithe in fives and tens...
Nutter.
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Buckler
<catpro...@cox.net> wrote:
>So, in your words people are kooky because they actually care about rescuing
>animals. Hmm... then firefighters must be cooks to you for rescuing them.
Are you suggesting that firefighters rescue cats only to cook them?
That's revolting.
Buckler
"Only two things are infinite: the Universe and human stupidity, and I'm not so sure about the former."
-Albert Einstein
ROT13 my email address to reply.
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"Buckler" <ohx...@lnubb.pbz> wrote in message
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Cat Protector
with is "Cat Protector is a human hating cook!" and then spill it across all
these newsgroups. I guess it is a real crime to be a cat lover amongst those
humans who care very little about their life. Call me a lover and protector
of cats as that is what I am.
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"Truth in motion" <gari...@kook.com> wrote in message
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