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Christina Websell

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May 9, 2013, 4:35:06 PM5/9/13
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I got a doormat surprise this morning. Boyfie brought me a bat.
Now given that he cannot fly himself it may have got grounded or maybe it
was having a drink on the birdbath when he happened to pass by last night at
dusk.

It was this:
http://www.bats.org.uk/pages/-common_pipistrelle-821.html

So when I knew Simon was coming today, I thought he should be given the
opportunity to see the only bat he will see, close up.
I don't think he really appreciated it.

He did say (bless his lovely heart) when I spread its wings out for him to
see how fabulous it was "I can see how difficult it would be to invent
those wings."





jmcquown

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May 9, 2013, 7:37:52 PM5/9/13
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On 5/9/2013 4:35 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
> I got a doormat surprise this morning. Boyfie brought me a bat.
> Now given that he cannot fly himself it may have got grounded or maybe it
> was having a drink on the birdbath when he happened to pass by last night at
> dusk.
>
Bats are quite intuitive and they use sonar... I have no idea how long
bats live but chances are it was old or hurt before Boyfie got to it.
They're not easily trapped.

Some people in the US put up bat houses to attract them. They're very
beneficial creatures. John and I went to an outdoor concert one night a
few years ago. He looked up and said, "Are those bats?" Yes. They
were swooping down catching mosquitoes. :)

> He did say (bless his lovely heart) when I spread its wings out for him to
> see how fabulous it was "I can see how difficult it would be to invent
> those wings."
>
Indeed, it would be. Their wings are amazing. I'm not afraid of bats.
Granted, I don't want one in my house (BTDT). But I don't react as if
I'm starring in an early Dracula film if I see one. LOL

Jill

Bastette

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May 9, 2013, 10:03:37 PM5/9/13
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Christina Websell wrote:


> I got a doormat surprise this morning. Boyfie brought me a bat.
> Now given that he cannot fly himself it may have got grounded or maybe it
> was having a drink on the birdbath when he happened to pass by last night at
> dusk.

> It was this:
> http://www.bats.org.uk/pages/-common_pipistrelle-821.html

> So when I knew Simon was coming today, I thought he should be given the
> opportunity to see the only bat he will see, close up.
> I don't think he really appreciated it.

LOL. Perhaps Simon isn't the wildlife lover that you are. :)

> He did say (bless his lovely heart) when I spread its wings out for him to
> see how fabulous it was "I can see how difficult it would be to invent
> those wings."

You're lucky that you can enjoy a bat encounter, even if it was dead. And
not have to worry that Boyfie might have picked up rabies. I like bats and
I'm not afraid of them per se, but in the back of my mind I wonder if my
cats, or I, for that matter, would be in danger from one. People have died
from rabies caused by bat bites in this country. It's extremely rare, but
it happens. And if there's anyone who's willing to worry about it, it's me. :)

--
Joyce

Beauty and music seduce us first; later, ashamed of our own
sensuality, we insist on meaning. -- Clive Barker

Takayuki

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May 9, 2013, 10:58:58 PM5/9/13
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Everyone I've known who has seen a bat up-close admit that they're very
cute.

This time of year, they're hungry from having been hibernating all winter,
but insects aren't in full force yet. Probably some of them are going to be
too weakened to escape from a Boyfriend or other similarly fearsome
predator.

Christina Websell

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May 9, 2013, 11:54:30 PM5/9/13
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"Takayuki" <Takay...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Now I feel really bad about it, worse than I did before.

However if I choose to let my cat out I have to accept what he might do


Christina Websell

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May 11, 2013, 1:18:26 PM5/11/13
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"Bastette" <bastX...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> Christina Websell wrote:
>
>
> > I got a doormat surprise this morning. Boyfie brought me a bat.
<....>
> > So when I knew Simon was coming today, I thought he should be given the
> > opportunity to see the only bat he will see, close up.
> > I don't think he really appreciated it.
>
> LOL. Perhaps Simon isn't the wildlife lover that you are. :)


<g> I think he is, but perhaps he prefers to see live ones and doesn't have
the same type of scientific interest in dead specimens that I do. However
he is very used to my quirks & foibles and excuses them all.
>
> You're lucky that you can enjoy a bat encounter, even if it was dead. And
> not have to worry that Boyfie might have picked up rabies. I like bats and
> I'm not afraid of them per se, but in the back of my mind I wonder if my
> cats, or I, for that matter, would be in danger from one.

Yes, we are very lucky not to have rabies in the UK due to our previously
very stringent and some would say draconian quarantine laws. Now there is a
vaccine.

>People have died
> from rabies caused by bat bites in this country. It's extremely rare, but
> it happens.

We did have a death in Scotland in 2002:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/2509375.stm



> And if there's anyone who's willing to worry about it, it's me. :)

Try not to. Even if you or your cats were bitten by a bat (and how likely is
that?) the likelihood of it having rabies is very small.
There was some concern initially in case any rabid bats from France got
through the Channel tunnel but there's no evidence to suggest it, unless
that Scotland case was the one and only. How a Daubenton's bat could have
got from the extreme south of England into Scotland I have no idea.
I don't think it's possible. I suspect the poor man who died, being a
renowned bat expert may have offered his services in Europe and been bitten
there. Bats can and do bite if you handle them.
I think they are fantastic and fabulous creatures so that's why I titled my
post "Kind of sad" because I was very sorry that Boyfie had killed one.

Tweed





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Bastette

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May 11, 2013, 8:40:37 PM5/11/13
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Christina Websell wrote:

>> And if there's anyone who's willing to worry about it, it's me. :)

> Try not to. Even if you or your cats were bitten by a bat (and how likely is
> that?) the likelihood of it having rabies is very small.

I know. I just have a genetic disposition to worrying. I don't lose much
sleep over rabid bats, though. If one got into the house, though it would
be a different matter.

> I think they are fantastic and fabulous creatures so that's why I titled my
> post "Kind of sad" because I was very sorry that Boyfie had killed one.

Yeah. That's one animal you *don't* want to go extinct.

--
Joyce

Fluffy Mackerel Pudding - "Once upon a time, the world was young and the words 'mackerel' and 'pudding' existed far, far away from one another. One day, that all changed. And then, whoever was responsible somehow thought the word 'fluffy' would help." -- Hilarious recipes at: www.candyboots.com

Christina Websell

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"Bastette" <bastX...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> Christina Websell wrote:
>
> >> And if there's anyone who's willing to worry about it, it's me. :)
>
> > Try not to. Even if you or your cats were bitten by a bat (and how
> > likely is
> > that?) the likelihood of it having rabies is very small.
>
> I know. I just have a genetic disposition to worrying.

No, you haven't.

I don't lose much
> sleep over rabid bats, though. If one got into the house, though it would
> be a different matter.

Even if a bat did get into your house - unlikely - just open the windows and
take yourself off to bed.
>
> > I think they are fantastic and fabulous creatures so that's why I titled
> > my
> > post "Kind of sad" because I was very sorry that Boyfie had killed one.
>
> Yeah. That's one animal you *don't* want to go extinct.
>
Stops us being overwhelmed with flying insects. I really, really like
them - and almost everything else except Big Spiders.

Tweed



---MIKE---

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May 12, 2013, 6:07:27 PM5/12/13
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When I first moved into my house, I put up four bat houses. I wanted to
attract them to control the insects. I didn't get a single one. I
think I am too far from water. Now I rely on hummingbirds to eat
mosquitos.

---MIKE---

In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
(44� 15' N - Elevation 1580')

Cheryl

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May 12, 2013, 8:12:07 PM5/12/13
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It won't be long before insects are in full force. 17 year cicadas.
Ick. I had to ask about this because we had a brood of them in 2004.
My brother said they were brood x or something and this is a different
one. So why in the world are they call 17 year cicadas? I don't care
what brood they are, they are pests.

--
CAPSLOCK�Preventing Login Since 1980.

Cheryl

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May 12, 2013, 8:13:17 PM5/12/13
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On 5/9/2013 10:03 PM, Bastette wrote:

> You're lucky that you can enjoy a bat encounter, even if it was dead. And
> not have to worry that Boyfie might have picked up rabies. I like bats and
> I'm not afraid of them per se, but in the back of my mind I wonder if my
> cats, or I, for that matter, would be in danger from one. People have died
> from rabies caused by bat bites in this country. It's extremely rare, but
> it happens. And if there's anyone who's willing to worry about it, it's me.:)

My ex-husbands mother had a pool and I can remember finding one drowned
in the pool. I guess that sort of thing happens a lot.

--
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Bastette

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May 12, 2013, 9:19:19 PM5/12/13
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Christina Websell wrote:

> "Bastette" <bastX...@sonic.net> wrote in message
> news:kmmoe4$qth$2...@dont-email.me...
>> Christina Websell wrote:
>>
>> >> And if there's anyone who's willing to worry about it, it's me. :)
>>
>> > Try not to. Even if you or your cats were bitten by a bat (and how
>> > likely is
>> > that?) the likelihood of it having rabies is very small.
>>
>> I know. I just have a genetic disposition to worrying.

> No, you haven't.

You don't know my dad! He has the same ultra-sensitive temperament I do.
I'm pretty sure something like temperament is biological. You can work
with what you've got, and believe me, I have. But I'll always have a
tendency toward anxiety. Only reason I'm not beset with panic attacks
is "better living through chemistry", and I mean the prescription kind.

--
Joyce

Something you'll never hear an 8-year-old say:

"Nana, will you spit on your hankie and wipe the gravy off my face?"

Christina Websell

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"Bastette" <bastX...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> Christina Websell wrote:
>
> > "Bastette" <bastX...@sonic.net> wrote in message
> > news:kmmoe4$qth$2...@dont-email.me...
> >> Christina Websell wrote:
> >>
> >> >> And if there's anyone who's willing to worry about it, it's me. :)
> >>
> >> > Try not to. Even if you or your cats were bitten by a bat (and how
> >> > likely is
> >> > that?) the likelihood of it having rabies is very small.
> >>
> >> I know. I just have a genetic disposition to worrying.
>
> > No, you haven't.
>
> You don't know my dad! He has the same ultra-sensitive temperament I do.
> I'm pretty sure something like temperament is biological.

More likely "learnt behaviour" If your parents are anxious they teach their
children that without even knowing they are doing it.



You can work
> with what you've got, and believe me, I have. But I'll always have a
> tendency toward anxiety. Only reason I'm not beset with panic attacks
> is "better living through chemistry", and I mean the prescription kind.
>
I did once need one of those, but only temporarily. It got me through my
mother's sudden death. I could of course have carried on with it for ever
but I asked myself why I couldn't brave up and decided I could.
I was a real mess at the time though so I will never say don't use chemicals
but they are not a permanent solution.





Christina Websell

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May 13, 2013, 6:34:45 PM5/13/13
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"Judith Latham" <jud...@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <av2fjs...@mid.individual.net>, Christina Websell
> I was only saying to Sootie ten minutes ago, as we looked out of the
> bedroom window together watching it get dark, that I hadn't seen any bats
> yet this year. (She didn't let on if she'd seen any.) The bats usually fly
> around our house and both my next door houses. They come very close to the
> windows and I love to see them. I have no idea where they come from.
>
> I would be sad too if Sootie caught one but that's nature for you.
>
> Judith

Yes, if I choose to let him out, I have to accept that he might kill
something I'd prefer that he didn't.
Normally, he is too lazy now unless something falls into his mouth so I
guess the bat and collared dove got the Darwin award, they both must have
been really stupid.
They both fly and he doesn't..

Tweed





Joy

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"Christina Websell" <spam...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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One size does not fit all. One solution is not right for everybody. Panic
attacks and anxiety, like depression, can vary greatly from person to
person. The intensity and frequency of the attacks can vary. Often there
is a (body) chemical cause, which can only be controlled through medication.

Consider yourself fortunate that you can do without the medication. You
can't possibly know what others are going through.

Joy


Christina Websell

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"Joy" <toa...@real-me.net> wrote in message
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It is not genetic, Joy. That's all I am saying. You are born with your
own personality but it can be affected by your main parent. If they are
positive the child will be too.
I did a study on this once.

I am not dissing anyone's experience but I would also say no-one knows what
I've gone through either. You don't know the half of it.









Bastette

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May 13, 2013, 9:53:35 PM5/13/13
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Your problem was temporary - you're a basically healthy person, emotionally,
who went through a couple of traumatic events at the same time, so you needed
some help. I've had anxiety and depression since I was a child. We have
different problems here, which calls for different treatments. It has nothing
to do with being brave.

--
Joyce

If you can't operate your turn signal, what makes you think you can
drive the rest of the car? -- bumper sticker

Bastette

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May 13, 2013, 9:55:23 PM5/13/13
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Joy wrote:

> "Christina Websell" <spam...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message

>>> You can work
>>> with what you've got, and believe me, I have. But I'll always have a
>>> tendency toward anxiety. Only reason I'm not beset with panic attacks
>>> is "better living through chemistry", and I mean the prescription kind.

>> I did once need one of those, but only temporarily. It got me through my
>> mother's sudden death. I could of course have carried on with it for ever
>> but I asked myself why I couldn't brave up and decided I could.
>> I was a real mess at the time though so I will never say don't use
>> chemicals but they are not a permanent solution.

> One size does not fit all. One solution is not right for everybody. Panic
> attacks and anxiety, like depression, can vary greatly from person to
> person. The intensity and frequency of the attacks can vary. Often there
> is a (body) chemical cause, which can only be controlled through medication.

> Consider yourself fortunate that you can do without the medication. You
> can't possibly know what others are going through.

> Joy

Thanks, Joy! That's what I'm trying to say, and you said it well.

Joy

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"Bastette" <bastX...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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You're welcome, Joyce. I've learned a lot in 77 years, and I've also seen
my sister develop anxiety attacks and severe memory problems. If everybody
were the same, it would be easy to cure or control most things.

Joy


jmcquown

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On 5/13/2013 6:34 PM, Christina Websell wrote:
> "Judith Latham" <jud...@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:534a52ff...@sick-of-spam.invalid...
>> In article <av2fjs...@mid.individual.net>, Christina Websell
>> <spam...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I got a doormat surprise this morning. Boyfie brought me a bat. Now
>>> given that he cannot fly himself it may have got grounded or maybe it
>>> was having a drink on the birdbath when he happened to pass by last
>>> night at dusk.
>>
>>> It was this: http://www.bats.org.uk/pages/-common_pipistrelle-821.html
>>
>> I was only saying to Sootie ten minutes ago, as we looked out of the
>> bedroom window together watching it get dark, that I hadn't seen any bats
>> yet this year. (She didn't let on if she'd seen any.) The bats usually fly
>> around our house and both my next door houses. They come very close to the
>> windows and I love to see them. I have no idea where they come from.
>>
>> I would be sad too if Sootie caught one but that's nature for you.
>>
>> Judith
>
> Yes, if I choose to let him out, I have to accept that he might kill
> something I'd prefer that he didn't.
> Normally, he is too lazy now unless something falls into his mouth so I
> guess the bat and collared dove got the Darwin award, they both must have
> been really stupid.
> They both fly and he doesn't..
>
> Tweed
>
Perhaps Boyfie *can* fly and you just don't know it. ;)

Jill

Cheryl

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I've tried to get off of Paxil but when I've been off of them for a
little bit of time, I get the worst crying jags. I can cry at anything.
I've decided I need to stay on them probably forever.
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Christina Websell

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"Cheryl" <jlhs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Consider yourself fortunate that you can do without the medication. You
>> can't possibly know what others are going through.
>>
>> Joy
>>
>>
> I've tried to get off of Paxil but when I've been off of them for a little
> bit of time, I get the worst crying jags. I can cry at anything. I've
> decided I need to stay on them probably forever.
>
>
I regret in some ways coming off anti-depressants and only did so as one of
my brothers - when he phoned me - would always say "are you off those
tablets yet?"
I still have some symptoms left, like poor sleep and lack of motivation so
don't anyone think I don't know what clinical depression is like. It was
the worst illness I ever had including cancer.
Simon was once a high earning IT manager until he got depression himself.
After that he decided to change career and help others to recover.
We often talk about how ill I was in 03, my house was subsiding, my mother
had just died suddenly and I was being bullied by a manager and it was all
too much. I sunk.

He says "when I saw you in your workplace and understood your situation, I
just knew I'd have to help and see you again."
I was weeping like mad and could not sit still.

He referred the issue of bullying to the Occupational Health doctors and it
was proved.











Christina Websell

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"Bastette" <bastX...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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I agree it's not about being brave as such, but it is about whether you
accept your bad life experiences have stopped you and you then get afraid.
My(ex) husband once attacked me with a chain saw because he came home from
the pub and he'd had the same meal last week.
He started up the chain saw and smashed the phone so I couldn't call for
help and I fled to a neighbour, which was embarrassing but it probably saved
my life.
He got arrested.

anyway, Boyfie and myself are very happy on our own.







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Bastette

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May 15, 2013, 4:06:56 PM5/15/13
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Christina Websell wrote:

> "Bastette" <bastX...@sonic.net> wrote in message

>> I've had anxiety and depression since I was a child. We have
>> different problems here, which calls for different treatments. It has
>> nothing to do with being brave.

> I agree it's not about being brave as such, but it is about whether you
> accept your bad life experiences have stopped you and you then get afraid.

That is true - I did have bad experiences especially in childhood, which
have definitely affected me. I think personality is a combination of biology
and life experience. It's hard to tell which is which sometimes.

But I think biological temperament matters. My sister grew up in the same
household and took the same abuse I did, but she is not like me. She's just
a lot less sensitive than I am and doesn't react to every little thing. I'm
not saying she wasn't hurt by it, she just had different ways of dealing
with it. She's tougher than I am. (My mom also had a less sensitive
temperament, so that's probably where she got it.)

I used to be so jealous of that, and I hated myself for being such a
wuss and a crybaby. But it's not my fault I got the kind of nervous system
I got. Luck of the genetic draw.

> My(ex) husband once attacked me with a chain saw because he came home from
> the pub and he'd had the same meal last week.
> He started up the chain saw and smashed the phone so I couldn't call for
> help and I fled to a neighbour, which was embarrassing but it probably saved
> my life.

Good lord! I didn't know about that. I'm glad you put a higher value on
your life than on saving face - and that your neighbors happened to be home
when you needed them!

> He got arrested.

So glad to hear that. Hope he also got lots of prison time.

> anyway, Boyfie and myself are very happy on our own.

I'll bet!

--
Joyce

We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth
concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both.
-- Louis D. Brandeis

Christina Websell

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"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>>> Yes, if I choose to let him out, I have to accept that he might kill
>> something I'd prefer that he didn't.
>> Normally, he is too lazy now unless something falls into his mouth so I
>> guess the bat and collared dove got the Darwin award, they both must
>> have
>> been really stupid.
>> They both fly and he doesn't..
>>
>> Tweed
>>
> Perhaps Boyfie *can* fly and you just don't know it. ;)
>
> Jill
>
<g>
I suspect he comes upon them during rat patrol at dusk.
He likes to catch small things which won't bite him too much like mice and
baby rats.
If a rat gets big, he prefers to get the terriers in to do it, however if we
do, he has to make sure he's inside otherwise he'll be joining them at the
RB.
when the terriers have an appointment here for rats, Boyfie is not allowed
out.
the terrier man says "if you have a cat keep it inside otherwise it will be
an ex-cat." So I keep him in, even if he wants to go out.













U-xps\bud

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May 16, 2013, 7:26:29 AM5/16/13
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On 2013-05-11, Christina Websell <spam...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> "Bastette" <bastX...@sonic.net> wrote in message
> news:kmhkhp$su5$2...@dont-email.me...
>>
>> You're lucky that you can enjoy a bat encounter, even if it was dead. And
>> not have to worry that Boyfie might have picked up rabies. I like bats and
>> I'm not afraid of them per se, but in the back of my mind I wonder if my
>> cats, or I, for that matter, would be in danger from one.
>
> Yes, we are very lucky not to have rabies in the UK due to our previously
> very stringent and some would say draconian quarantine laws. Now there is a
> vaccine.

Rabies can't be quarantined out of existence in North America because it
exists in wild animal populations. Louis Pasteur famously treated a boy
with rabies vaccine in the 1880s.

Bud

U-xps\bud

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On 2013-05-09, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Some people in the US put up bat houses to attract them. They're very
> beneficial creatures. John and I went to an outdoor concert one night a
> few years ago. He looked up and said, "Are those bats?" Yes. They
> were swooping down catching mosquitoes. :)
>
I remember seeing bats swoop down to drink from my Aunt Ruth's swimming
pool on the fly.

Bud

Smokie Darling (Annie)

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On Sunday, May 12, 2013 6:12:07 PM UTC-6, Cheryl wrote:

>
> It won't be long before insects are in full force. 17 year cicadas.
>
> Ick. I had to ask about this because we had a brood of them in 2004.
>
> My brother said they were brood x or something and this is a different
>
> one. So why in the world are they call 17 year cicadas? I don't care
>
> what brood they are, they are pests.

Cheryl,

The ones in 2004 were the 20 year cicadas. Apparently larger due to longer hibernation/incubation.

Personally, I don't know the difference, but I *love* to hear them.

Christina Websell

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"U-xps\bud" <william...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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I feel very upset about the bat that Boyfie caught, but to be honest, he/she
can fly and Boyfie can't which suggests that either the bat was ill, or
should have been more careful.
Maybe it swooped down in front of him too low, he is still up to launching
himself off the ground after a birdie but usually he misses now (thankfully)
He will be 11 this year and I've decided to give him a birthday. It will be
June 1st.
It will be near enough as he was obviously a summer kitten getting lost by
hormones the next March.
Poor lad was well lost and he found how to sleep in my conservatory
overnight and disappear the second I opened the back door.
"Pfff," he says, "at my old life even if I did have a posh collar. I now
have my own bedroom and duvet and can hunt a bit if I want to"

Actually, he does have his own posh collar now and he also has a microchip
and he also met the vet for the snip. I thought the snip would be worse for
him than it
was. He licked his ex-testicles for a few hours and after that he was out
again on rat patrol and not wandering about looking for the girls which got
him lost in the first place.

If only his previous owners had got him neutered and microchipped they would
still have him. Bad luck, I've done it and he is mine, all mine!

I often wonder if they miss him still but it is all their own fault.
They should have neutered him. and then he would not have wandered.













Christina Websell

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"U-xps\bud" <william...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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we have successfully prevented rabies coming here in the past by six months
quarantine for cats and dogs. Let's hope the rabies vaccine works otherwise
we will be in real trouble.



Bastette

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The rabies vaccine works. All dogs in the US are required to get them
regularly. Cats aren't required, but it's a good idea, even for indoor-
only cats, because they could get out after all. I don't usually have
Roxy vaccinated, though, because the stress on her immune system could
bring on a herpes outbreak.

People who work with animals, such as vets, animal control officers,
wildlife caretakers, etc., get the vaccine, too. The disease is rare
enough, though, that it's not considered necessary for the average
person.

--
Joyce

"Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you
come alive and then go do that. Because what the world needs is people
who have come alive." -- Howard Thurman
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