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Liane

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Apr 1, 2001, 11:58:21 AM4/1/01
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I heard on the news the other day that police in Toronto are introducing a
new parner - a golden retriever who will help catch bad drivers. He barks
when he notices cars following too close & doing other inconsiderate things.
Isn't that amazing?? I'd love to know how they train a dog to do that!
Liane


Chemcats

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Apr 2, 2001, 8:59:54 AM4/2/01
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I like that too!! One of the funniest things I read about bad drivers was in a
book called Organ Griders. This couple were mild "eco terrorists" and what
they would do to bad drivers is shoot a paint ball (red for very bad, yellow
for simple bad) at the car so others on the road would be aware. Funny!!

Pam Shirk

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Apr 2, 2001, 1:46:41 PM4/2/01
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Forget the dog, I wanna know how they can train the drivers NOT
do drive like that. To me that would be amazing. The dog just
has average intelligence, unfortunately not enough drivers have
the same intelligence.

Pam S.

Pam Shirk

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Apr 2, 2001, 1:49:44 PM4/2/01
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Chemcats wrote:
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> I like that too!! One of the funniest things I read about bad drivers was in a
> book called Organ Griders. This couple were mild "eco terrorists" and what
> they would do to bad drivers is shoot a paint ball (red for very bad, yellow
> for simple bad) at the car so others on the road would be aware. Funny!!


I'm so depressed, I've been wanting to do that for a long time,
except I don't want to use a paint gun, I wanna paint CANNON!!
My only problem, is that considering that I make mistakes too,
who am I to judge who's a good driver and who's not?

Pam S.

Yowie

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Apr 2, 2001, 5:51:08 PM4/2/01
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"Pam Shirk" <Tan...@earthlink.com> wrote in message
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Recently, there was a current affairs show about driving, where people were
made to sit their theoretical and practical drivers test again without any
warning. Most failed.

Its proposed that everyone will have to re-sit for their licence at least
every 5 years. I think its a grand idea, particularly for the youngest and
oldest drivers in our community (the ones who drive far too fast and far too
slow, respectively).

BTW, if you knew you were being monitored by the "paint ball driving skills
police", would you make more or less mistakes? I'd probably make the same
amount of *errors* but I certainly wouldn't take those handy illegal
"shortcuts" I take.

Yowie


Liane

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Apr 2, 2001, 6:17:48 PM4/2/01
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Yeah, too bad you don't have to take an I.Q. test to get a licence!!
Liane


jXwXeXr...@sonic.net

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Apr 2, 2001, 9:38:08 PM4/2/01
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Chemcats <chem...@aol.com> wrote:

> I like that too!! One of the funniest things I read about bad drivers was
> in a book called Organ Griders. This couple were mild "eco terrorists"
> and what they would do to bad drivers is shoot a paint ball (red for very
> bad, yellow for simple bad) at the car so others on the road would be
> aware. Funny!!

That's great! Is this a novel? Who wrote it? That would be great if it
were true (though they'd never get away with it, of course).

Joyce

Pam Shirk

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Apr 2, 2001, 10:49:59 PM4/2/01
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Yowie wrote:
>
> BTW, if you knew you were being monitored by the "paint ball driving skills
> police", would you make more or less mistakes? I'd probably make the same
> amount of *errors* but I certainly wouldn't take those handy illegal
> "shortcuts" I take.
>


I'd definately be more paranoid, but I like to think that I
wouldn't really drive much differently. Most of my mistakes are
of the timing variety. I'm following someone and they suddenly
slow down so I have to hit the brakes or swerve into another
lane.

I also tend to speed in NON-residential areas, which drives some
of my neighbors nuts as I tend to do 35 in a 35 mph residential
area. I feel that if I hit a kid, the parents are going to die
inside, no matter what. But I won't have been adding onto the
offense by speeding when I hit that kid, and maybe by doing 35
instead of 45, the accident wouldn't have happened. The main
residential street between me and my usual work has speeds of 55
to 45 to 35 and school buses all over the place, as well as a
daycare center. This means kids of all ages out beside the road
waiting for buses, and little kids who could get loose from their
parents and into the road.

Now I've timed it, and the savings of going 45 in that 35 mph
zone is less than a minute. That's not a lot, but it could be a
lifetime for a kid and his family. So I ignore the idiot honking
his horn because I'm doing 35 in a 35 and pray that he doesn't
ever meet a child the hard way.

Sorry, this is one of my hobby horses and I tend to rant on the
topic.

Pam S.

Tambra Jo

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Apr 3, 2001, 1:41:33 AM4/3/01
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"Yowie" <yowi...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:3ac8f42e$0$25519

> Recently, there was a current affairs show about driving, where people
were
> made to sit their theoretical and practical drivers test again without any
> warning. Most failed.
>
> Its proposed that everyone will have to re-sit for their licence at least
> every 5 years. I think its a grand idea, particularly for the youngest and
> oldest drivers in our community (the ones who drive far too fast and far
too
> slow, respectively).

Oh boy Yowie hold onto your pants, your gonna love this! In Arizona you do
not, I repeat DO NOT have to re-test for your drivers license until you
are...................... 65 freakin' years old. 65!!!! Then after that
you have to test every 5 years! :0

So when you are issued your full fledged, I can drive at night with my
stupid friends in the car "real" license as a young snot nosed punk you do
not have to set foot into the Motor Vehicle dept or crack open a road rules
booklet until you are 65!!!! You do have to update your photo and vision
exam every 12 years though! Your vision every 12
years.................crazy!

I got a new drivers license in 1994 when they started this brilliant idea
and it does not expire until 2023! Ask Hazel, I am not even joking. Her
son will get a license that will last him until he is a grandpa! Dumbest
damn thing I have ever heard of in my life!
--
TJ and The Dust
katREMO...@hotmail.com
And why did cats decide to become domestic animals?

maskvcat

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Apr 3, 2001, 1:45:36 AM4/3/01
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Put the retriever on I-95 down here and he would be in a straight jacket in
no time and require therapy............that is, if he survived in a vehicle
driving less than 70 mph.

--
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Hazel Az

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Apr 3, 2001, 2:01:08 AM4/3/01
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Actually they've changed things a little bit. It's a little harder and more
complicated to get your license as a teen. They are trying to make the
driving age 18 instead of 16. No driving at night and only with an adult.
Yada, yada, yada.

I was stunned to see how long my license is supposed to last. That's why
they make them so badly. They fall apart in a man's wallet in a couple of
years and he has to get a new one. I know two guys who were handcuffed and
put in the back of a cruiser because the rookie cop couldn't read the
license.

Hazel Az

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Tambra Jo

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Apr 3, 2001, 2:05:25 AM4/3/01
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I think that the graduated license system is a great idea. My nephew who is
16 hates it and doesn't think it's fair but hey, life ain't always fair! He
is so immature and cocky that I can't imagine him driving at all! I
remember when I was a youngster back in the olden days the drinking age in
AZ was 19 and they never carded anyone. I was going to bars and buying
Strawberry Boonsfarm fine wine, hah, when I was in high school! They
changed the drinking age to 21 when I was 20 but I was grandfathered in so I
could still go out and get trashed. :0

--
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katREMO...@hotmail.com
And why did cats decide to become domestic animals?


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Chemcats

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Apr 3, 2001, 8:41:46 AM4/3/01
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>BTW, if you knew you were being monitored by the "paint ball driving skills
>police", would you make more or less mistakes?

>>

I probably would be more aware. After loosing about 20 teenagers in my
community last year to idiot/hormonal/drunk driving, I am very aware,
especially of the other guy.

Chemcats

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Apr 3, 2001, 8:54:55 AM4/3/01
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>That's great! Is this a novel? Who wrote it? That would be great if it
>were true (though they'd never get away with it, of course).

>>>

It is a novel written by Bill Fitzhugh. It is a very funny book, but WARNING
it is based on fact and research, so if you are easily upset over man's
inhumanity, it may be a little rough. I had more than a few moments of pissed
off, but it was good. I loved those "eco-terrorists" and the way they fought.


I also like Carl Haiasen and his "terrorists" too. If you are familiar with
Haiasen, Bill Fizhugh is like him but not as light.

jXwXeXr...@sonic.net

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Apr 3, 2001, 3:22:52 PM4/3/01
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Chemcats <chem...@aol.com> wrote:

> It is a novel written by Bill Fitzhugh. It is a very funny book, but
> WARNING it is based on fact and research, so if you are easily upset
> over man's inhumanity, it may be a little rough.

This ng is one of the few places where I don't feel totally stupid
admitting this, but I can read about "man's inhumanity to man" - just,
please, don't make me read about man's inhumanity to *animals*. So
which did you mean - or is there both?

Thanks,

Joyce

Dewi Williams

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Apr 3, 2001, 11:23:43 PM4/3/01
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>"Yowie" <yowi...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:3ac8f42e$0$25519
>> Recently, there was a current affairs show about driving, where people
>were
>> made to sit their theoretical and practical drivers test again without
any
>> warning. Most failed.
>>
>> Its proposed that everyone will have to re-sit for their licence at least
>> every 5 years. I think its a grand idea, particularly for the youngest
and
>> oldest drivers in our community (the ones who drive far too fast and far
>too
>> slow, respectively).
>

Yeek! I'd fail my drivers test if I had to do it again. But those tests are
so bloody unrealistic and it's nothing like driving in the "real world". In
Western Australia I heard that they are thinking about regulating young
drivers by limiting them to day time driving and not being allowed to drive
with someone younger than 25. I think it's a great idea, most under 25 y.o.
male drivers are CRAPPY and don't seem to be able to resist the urge to show
off.

Dewi.


Cathi

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Apr 4, 2001, 1:30:27 PM4/4/01
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>
>Yeek! I'd fail my drivers test if I had to do it again. But those tests are
>so bloody unrealistic and it's nothing like driving in the "real world". In
>Western Australia I heard that they are thinking about regulating young
>drivers by limiting them to day time driving and not being allowed to drive
>with someone younger than 25. I think it's a great idea, most under 25 y.o.
>male drivers are CRAPPY and don't seem to be able to resist the urge to show
>off.
>
>Dewi.
>
>
IIRC, the UK the law was changed so that you couldn't accompany a
learner driver unless you had held a full driving licence for at least
four years. As our minimum age for a motor-car licence is 17, this
would make any supervising driver 21 minimum.
--
Cathi

Simo Tuominen

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Apr 17, 2001, 8:19:48 PM4/17/01
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"Tambra Jo" <katREMO...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Yowie" <yowi...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> > Recently, there was a current affairs show about driving, where
people
> were
> > made to sit their theoretical and practical drivers test again
without any
> > warning. Most failed.
> >
> > Its proposed that everyone will have to re-sit for their licence
at least
> > every 5 years. I think its a grand idea, particularly for the
youngest and
> > oldest drivers in our community (the ones who drive far too fast
and far
> too
> > slow, respectively).
>
> Oh boy Yowie hold onto your pants, your gonna love this! In Arizona
you do
> not, I repeat DO NOT have to re-test for your drivers license until
you
> are...................... 65 freakin' years old. 65!!!! Then
after that
> you have to test every 5 years! :0

I'm not quite sure if you're required to take another driving test
*ever* having gotten your "full" licence (in Finland, that is). You do
have to have your eyesight tested every five years after you are 50
(or was it 45? Can't remember, and anyway, the state will let me know
when it's time:). I may of course be completely wrong.

> So when you are issued your full fledged, I can drive at night with
my
> stupid friends in the car "real" license as a young snot nosed punk
you do
> not have to set foot into the Motor Vehicle dept or crack open a
road rules
> booklet until you are 65!!!! You do have to update your photo and
vision
> exam every 12 years though! Your vision every 12
> years.................crazy!

Agreed. I get my eyes checked every other year, or when I think my
vision may have changed. You get most of your information in traffic
with your eyes, so you should take care that you get as much of it as
possible, as undistorted as possible. And don't read when you drive
(excluding signs <g>).

> I got a new drivers license in 1994 when they started this brilliant
idea
> and it does not expire until 2023! Ask Hazel, I am not even joking.
Her

My licence expires in 2042, the day I'm 70.

> son will get a license that will last him until he is a grandpa!
Dumbest
> damn thing I have ever heard of in my life!

I would say that getting a motorcycle licence automatically when you
get a car licence is stupid. Also, from what I've heard what kind of
cars (RVs and such) USAnians can drive with a "basic" licence, it's
simply stupid. Driving an RV sized thing is completely different from
driving a typical car.

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