Zu-prem Monkey Biscuits: how to feed?
Lorraine Abraham
breeders at shows have told me that they have great luck feeding their birds
monkey chow, which is marketed as Zu-Preem or Zoo-Preem or something of that
nature. I bought a bag of them at a bird show recently and I am wondering how
to best feed them to my parrotlets.
These biscuits are about the size of one of my birds, so sticking a couple in
the cage is probably not going to work.
A breeder of macaws said she soaks hers (in what I don't know) and uses them
to wean her baby blue and golds.
Any direction would be most helpful. Also, does Zu-preem come in other
sizes/flavors? Anyone got a source for these?
Thanks!!!
Lorraine and Steve
Ronica M
bird is different, so I'd advise you to give them a try.
You can soak them in water or apple juice, etc.
Good luck
DH
: I've never had any luck with them, but they seem like a good idea. Every
: bird is different, so I'd advise you to give them a try.
: You can soak them in water or apple juice, etc.
Same here. My birds are so-so about them, but they seem most likely to
eat them when I soak the biscuit in hot water, then serve it with
something scooped over it, strawberry-shortcake style.
My CAG and YCM like beans, rice, etc. I just dump some warm bean mix and
veggies on top of the mushy biscuit, and the birds usually will tear the
biscuit up in the process of eating the "good" stuff. :)
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Monica Sudds
>Hi. I have parrotlets and some Bourke's parakeets. Recently, several
>breeders at shows have told me that they have great luck feeding their birds
>monkey chow, which is marketed as Zu-Preem or Zoo-Preem or something of that
>nature. I bought a bag of them at a bird show recently and I am wondering how
>to best feed them to my parrotlets.
It's Zupreem
>These biscuits are about the size of one of my birds, so sticking a couple in
>the cage is probably not going to work.
They have recently come out with an avian diet. These biscuits are
tiny and suitable for any sized bird you have. They also have come out
with fruit flavors and colors...
>A breeder of macaws said she soaks hers (in what I don't know) and uses them
>to wean her baby blue and golds.
>Any direction would be most helpful. Also, does Zu-preem come in other
>sizes/flavors? Anyone got a source for these?
13 years ago, I began feeding baby birds. Zupreem Monkey Chow was the
mainstay of my diet. No one was marketing handfeeding formulas at the
time, with the exception of Lefaber, and most of their testing was
done in the poultry industry (from my information). My babies did
great on the Zupreem. Up until this date, I have weaned all my babies
(Tiels to Macaws) on the Zupreem Monkey Chow. I was ELATED to see that
they had come out with an Avian Diet, and sell it to all my customers
in my store.
D. Arnold
>Hi. I have parrotlets and some Bourke's parakeets. Recently, several
>breeders at shows have told me that they have great luck feeding their birds
>monkey chow, which is marketed as Zu-Preem or Zoo-Preem or something of that
>nature. I bought a bag of them at a bird show recently and I am wondering how
>to best feed them to my parrotlets.
>
>Any direction would be most helpful. Also, does Zu-preem come in other
>sizes/flavors? Anyone got a source for these?
>
I have a Triton cockatoo who *loves* monkey biscuits. I soak them in
boiling water until they are completely soft, then drain all the water
off. Sometimes I add a little peanut butter (his favorite), creamed
corn, or fruit cocktail. He was eating 5 of these in the morning and
in the evening. But he didn't eat much of anything else, so I stopped
giving them to him in the morning (he's still mad at me, I think).
Does anybody know if it's bad to feed him so much of the stuff?
If anybody has a source, I'd also like to know.
Dede
Christopher R Regan
that has me a bit concerned. Usually when I hold her she chatters a
little and chews my fingers a lot, sometimes whistleing and sometimes
saying hello to me, (most of the chatter and whistleing she keeps in
reserve for when she is bored in her cage), however, the past two times
I have held her she has done something new. I'm not sure if this is an
expression of bonding or love, or if there is something actually wrong.
What she does is starts to make a sound like a very very young
whimpering puppy, or a happy person who has problems breathing if you
can understand that. While she is making this sound she is bobbing her
head around and her wings actually droop! I mean slumped forward.
After finger and beak play I coax her back into her cage and she
reverts back to normal. But the fluffed feathers, slumped wings and
whimpering have me concerned?
Has any other gray owner ever experienced this, or does anyone out
there know what she is trying to tell me? Any advise would be most
helpful!
Tarra (not Christopher)
eet...@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu
>
>What she does is starts to make a sound like a very very young
>whimpering puppy, or a happy person who has problems breathing if you
>can understand that. While she is making this sound she is bobbing her
>head around and her wings actually droop! I mean slumped forward.
>After finger and beak play I coax her back into her cage and she
>reverts back to normal. But the fluffed feathers, slumped wings and
>whimpering have me concerned?
Sounds just like my Senegal parrot's mating dance. Perhaps she thinks you
are ready to breed!
Elaine Thompson
Don Boudreau
feeding our Lory breeders (soaked, with fruit cocktail +...). We give it
dry once and awhile to the Macaws as a treet. Just be careful giving it
in to great a quantity to non-soft bills--to much protein from any source
(like too much soybean heavy bean mix) can REALLY cause some serious
feathering problems with some birds. (Our bad experience was with
Amazons.)
Science Diet (makes Zu-Preem) just came out with different size pellet
food specifically for parrots. Call 'em and they'll send you some
samples.
Don Boudreau
The ARADROME (tm)
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Alicia A. Knapp
>My Grey is a little over one year old and has found something new to do
>that has me a bit concerned. Usually when I hold her she chatters a
>little and chews my fingers a lot, sometimes whistleing and sometimes
>saying hello to me, (most of the chatter and whistleing she keeps in
>reserve for when she is bored in her cage), however, the past two times
>I have held her she has done something new. I'm not sure if this is an
>expression of bonding or love, or if there is something actually wrong.
>What she does is starts to make a sound like a very very young
>whimpering puppy, or a happy person who has problems breathing if you
>can understand that. While she is making this sound she is bobbing her
>head around and her wings actually droop! I mean slumped forward.
>After finger and beak play I coax her back into her cage and she
>reverts back to normal. But the fluffed feathers, slumped wings and
>whimpering have me concerned?
>Has any other gray owner ever experienced this, or does anyone out
>there know what she is trying to tell me? Any advise would be most
>helpful!
>Tarra (not Christopher)
Tarra,
I cannot definitively say what this is, but it is familiar to me. Both
of my CAGs have done this. My first bird, Muad 'dib, did it shortly
after I got her 12 years ago. She was wild-caught and as she had just
gotten a clean bill of health from her vet, I watched her like a hawk
for symptoms of other problems, but when none appeared, I accepted it
as normal. (That's not to say that I didn't nearly have a heart attack
the first time it happened!) She does it very infrequently now.
My other Grey, Amadeus, does it often, particularly between January
and April. He also attempts to breed my hands (the dogs, my feet...you
get the picture) and regurgitates. And the
wheezing/whimpering/groaning sounds can be quite impressive.
Obviously, my theory is that this is some expression of mating/bonding
and could be a sign of your bird approaching maturity. But of course,
if something seems out of line to you or you notice other problems,
get a vet's opinion. Better safe that sorry! What I read may not be
exactly what you're seeing.
--
Alicia and the Red Bird
*Hey* What about us?
And the Grey Birds
Susan J. Naccarato
<eet...@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu> wrote:
>In article <4j4r1a$3...@cloner3.netcom.com>, sta...@ix.netcom.com says...
>>
>>whimpering puppy, or a happy person who has problems breathing if you
>>can understand that. While she is making this sound she is bobbing her
>>head around and her wings actually droop! I mean slumped forward.
>>After finger and beak play I coax her back into her cage and she
>>reverts back to normal. But the fluffed feathers, slumped wings and
>>whimpering have me concerned?
>
>are ready to breed!
>
>Elaine Thompson
My Grey, Gabby does it too, while rubbing his head on my hand. Think
it's a LOVE thing.
Susan
klin...@pilot.msu.edu
Yeah, when my grey did that I started to freak out! And it is a very hard
noise/sound to describe. My bird would do exactly the same thing and get
increasingly agitated as well. Eventually she'd start the head bobbing and
food would start to come up. She/He is trying to feed you -- her mate!!
That is when I decided the bird was truly bonded to me. I too believe it's a
LOVE thing.
I just wish there was a term to describe the sound! Whiney whimper clucking
almost, yes?
Good luck with your new partner ;)
-kfk
klin...@pilot.msu.edu
rwea...@abq-ros.com
ST>that has me a bit concerned. Usually when I hold her she chatters a
ST>little and chews my fingers a lot, sometimes whistleing and sometimes
ST>saying hello to me, (most of the chatter and whistleing she keeps in
ST>reserve for when she is bored in her cage), however, the past two times
ST>I have held her she has done something new. I'm not sure if this is an
ST>expression of bonding or love, or if there is something actually wrong.
ST>What she does is starts to make a sound like a very very young
ST>whimpering puppy, or a happy person who has problems breathing if you
ST>can understand that. While she is making this sound she is bobbing her
ST>head around and her wings actually droop! I mean slumped forward.
ST>After finger and beak play I coax her back into her cage and she
ST>reverts back to normal. But the fluffed feathers, slumped wings and
ST>whimpering have me concerned?
ST>Has any other gray owner ever experienced this, or does anyone out
ST>there know what she is trying to tell me? Any advise would be most
ST>helpful!
ST>Tarra (not Christopher)
She is trying to tell you that she wants to mate.
Ralph
Rafi Epand
>
> In article <4j81h0$3...@doc.zippo.com>,
> <eet...@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu> wrote:
> >In article <4j4r1a$3...@cloner3.netcom.com>, sta...@ix.netcom.com says...
> >>
> >
> >Sounds just like my Senegal parrot's mating dance. Perhaps she thinks you
> >are ready to breed!
> >
> >Elaine Thompson
>
> My Grey, Gabby does it too, while rubbing his head on my hand. Think
> it's a LOVE thing.
>
> Susan
We have a 7 year old hand-fed grey, Fidelio. We also think
it's a mating rite.
Does this behavior indicate the birds sex?
Rafi & Lorraine
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conditions and preferably in the freezer until you are ready to use it you
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