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Marco

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Mar 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/18/00
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Ok people... Chuck's been nagging and nagging me to put some new pics of
the little monsters on the photopoint album... so here it is...
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=62680&a=2745080
Also, if anyone knows what 'flavor' the light green bird is let us
know.. we think it's a cinnamon, but not sure. It's a light
greenish-yellow, with light gray rump and flights, and a dark grey/white
tail.
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~Linda~

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Mar 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/19/00
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Marco: Please tell Chuck his little monsters
are just adorable. Love 'em all ... they're *so cute*.
--
A fellow admirer of "Evil Ones",
Linda

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

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:Ok people... Chuck's been nagging and nagging me to put some new pics of

Marco

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Mar 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/19/00
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Hi Linda, Chucky here, As we had to put all the lovies together
except Heckle & Jeckle I realized just how colorful and pretty
thay all are. But We still do not know the new color of our
newest one. If you know of any LB breeders give em our addy .
Cause this not knowing is just killin me <G> /.
you two take care see you soon . Regards Chuck

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Jennifer Mullen

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Mar 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/19/00
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Marco <cha...@voyager.net> wrote:
:Also, if anyone knows what 'flavor' the light green bird is let us
:know.. we think it's a cinnamon, but not sure. It's a light
:greenish-yellow, with light gray rump and flights, and a dark grey/white
:tail.


What colors were the other birds in his clutch? I've raised similarly
colored peachies in the past that were cinnamon Dutch blues. Your bird
looks a little darker - perhaps a medium instead of a light.

-J.

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missy

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Mar 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/19/00
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Since we are on the subject of lovebirds, I saw the most beautiful
lovebird in a pet store yesterday. It was all steel grey in color. What
would be the proper name for the color? I would like to be able to ask for
it if I ever decide for one in the future.


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Laurie

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Mar 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/19/00
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Yeah, your lovies are really adorable. Too bad they're such nasty lil
critters, cuz they're awfully cute!!!

L
"~Linda~" <gba...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Marco: Please tell Chuck his little monsters
> are just adorable. Love 'em all ... they're *so cute*.
> --
> A fellow admirer of "Evil Ones",
> Linda
>
> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
>
> cha...@voyager.net wrote:
>
> :Ok people... Chuck's been nagging and nagging me to put some new pics of
> :the little monsters on the photopoint album... so here it is...
> :http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=62680&a=2745080

> :Also, if anyone knows what 'flavor' the light green bird is let us
> :know.. we think it's a cinnamon, but not sure. It's a light
> :greenish-yellow, with light gray rump and flights, and a dark grey/white
> :tail.

> :--
> :Marco

Camry747

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Mar 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/19/00
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In article <OHib7Odk$GA.254@cpmsnbbsa03>, "Laurie"
<lmro...@email.msn.biteme.com> writes:

>Yeah, your lovies are really adorable. Too bad they're such nasty lil
>critters, cuz they're awfully cute!!!
>

Yeah, what Laurie said! :)

Deb

Mick

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Mar 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/19/00
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I noticed that Marco and Chucks pic with the various color mutations
pointed out shows one as a dutch blue. My semi-worthless book on
lovebirds has a virtually identical bird as their dutch blue labeled as
a pastel blue. I have also seen this mutation refered to in other
sources by one name or the other. Is there a difference? or are they
the same thing? I only ask because I never know exactly what to call my
pflb of that mutation or any of his babies.

**Mick**

My photo album can be viewed at:
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SunSkater

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Mar 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/20/00
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Mick (mrmi...@webtv.net) wrote:

>I noticed that Marco and Chucks pic with the various color mutations
>pointed out shows one as a dutch blue. My semi-worthless book on
>lovebirds has a virtually identical bird as their dutch blue labeled as
>a pastel blue. I have also seen this mutation refered to in other
>sources by one name or the other. Is there a difference? or are they
>the same thing? I only ask because I never know exactly what to call my
>pflb of that mutation or any of his babies.

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They're one and the same. I believe 'pastel blue' is an older name and I don't
recall seeing it used in books published after the 'whiteface blue' became more
prevalent. (Just an observation)

I think a lot of these name differences depend on the author's national origin.
Same deal with ringneck mutations. Then again, the books I have which refer
to 'pastel blue' lovebirds also claim that the Nyassaland lovebird remains a
popular pet choice in America and Europe. Have you ever seen the Nyassaland???
<g>

BTW, how is the conure?

Best,

john

Peaches, Tropical, Jiminy & Cricket - PFLBs
Sunshine - IRN
Stormy - Patagonian

Mick

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Mar 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/20/00
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> They're one and the same. I believe 'pastel
> blue' is an older name and I don't recall
> seeing it used in books published after the
> 'whiteface blue' became more prevalent. (Just
> an observation)
>
> I think a lot of these name differences depend
> on the author's national origin.

Thanks. My book is by a foreign author. Now I have some more questions
concerning the "dutch blue" - Why? What is dutch blue supposed to mean?
Or pastel blue, there is nothing pastel about any of his parts that are
blue.

> BTW, how is the conure?

I assume you are refering to my "attack conure" who is almost his old
self again.

SunSkater

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Mar 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/21/00
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Mick (mrmi...@webtv.net) wrote:

>Thanks. My book is by a foreign author. Now I have some more questions
>concerning the "dutch blue" - Why? What is dutch blue supposed to mean?
>Or pastel blue, there is nothing pastel about any of his parts that are
>blue.

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I know what you mean. <g> You probably would have to write to the ALBS for
clarification on that one. (It wouldn't surprise me if they had a committee
that accepted proposed names and, one day, said: "Dutch! We'll go with Dutch
Blue - yep, that's the one!") To add to the fire, I personally prefer the name
of "Marine" that's used by some British authors. Peaches sorta has marine-type
or ocean coloration. (She has the attitude of a 'marine', too. <g>)

With many avians, an essentially blue bird results from successfully blocking
synthesis of lipochromes (usually reds and yellows) in the feathers. It's
possible to completely block lipochrome synthesis in ringnecks and (to choose a
bird closer to the pflb) I believe it can likewise be done with the
black-masked lovebird. They're obviously 'blue'. The genetics is generally
simple recessive. Well, the Dutch Blue/Pastel Blue/Marine pflb results from
the same sort of genetics and lipochrome block in the peachfaced, only the
block is incomplete. There is still quite a bit of yellow and red lipochrome
in the feathers of this mutation, so we don't really see them as blue.
Nonetheless, most authors refer to them as in the blue series to be consistent
with what is known about other avian species.

And I'm glad about your conure. <g>

SunSkater

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Mar 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/21/00
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I was in a lighthearted mood when I responded earlier and I neglected to really
answer any of your questions directly.

I do believe that the mutation is referred to as 'Dutch Blue' because it
originally appeared in Holland, in the early '60s.

(Ironically, Dr. Vriends, a Dutchman, always referred to them as 'pastel
blue').

Hope it helps.

Marco

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Mar 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/21/00
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Hi
mick chuck here .just seen your ppics of your babies, real nice ,
Well you seen all our lovies ? Not one male inthe bunch! We put
a pair together and we get 8 eggs at a time ;>(
One day soon i will find a male for our orangefaced, { I hope }
glad our pics brought up some good thoughts. Regards Chuck

Kellie

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Mar 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/21/00
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> >Thanks. My book is by a foreign author. Now I have some more questions
> >concerning the "dutch blue" - Why? What is dutch blue supposed to mean?
> >Or pastel blue, there is nothing pastel about any of his parts that are
> >blue.

I'm guessing, but there is a traditional kind of Dutch Delft ceramic dishware that
is white with blue paintings glazed on it. You've seen it, I'm sure. I'll bet
that is what gave the birds' color that name.

Now, I have a blue budgie that is definitely pastel, but I don't think he's really
called that. And I've seen budgies that were called pastel who weren't, if you
were using the term the normal way.

> --

Kellie
Final Portrait * A Novel by Kellie Sisson Snider
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Denise

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Mar 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/21/00
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2000 21:59:34 -0600 (CST), mrmi...@webtv.net (Mick)
wrote:

>My photo album can be viewed at:
>http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=29982

Your "Buddy" has the same colors as my "Spaz"
Nifty!

PS, very pretty birdies


Denise, Brain & Spaz

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