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Joanne

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Sep 17, 2001, 12:50:41 PM9/17/01
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Jim Wallace was nice enough to send me the animated version of the Eagle
Composite Photo. In this one, the tear actually drops from the corner
of the eye.

If the last version annoyed you, this one will really raise your blood
pressure.

However, if you appreciated the first version as I did, you will love
this one.

When requesting it, please refer to the animated version.

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Dave Sibbett

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Sep 17, 2001, 7:44:23 PM9/17/01
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>
> Don't tell me. They also contorted his beak into a frown?
>
> Jack
>
> --


No Jack ,

Its perched on your pecker about to rip its head off!

Dave


Laurie

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Sep 17, 2001, 8:33:09 PM9/17/01
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"Dave Sibbett" <dav...@sibbett.com> wrote in message
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Thanks for a much needed laugh Dave! You're sooo bad, and I LIKE IT!

Laurie
>
>


Joanne

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Sep 17, 2001, 8:47:39 PM9/17/01
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High Flight wrote:
>
> Joanne <Joa...@jobird.com> says...

> > Jim Wallace was nice enough to send me the animated version of the Eagle
> > Composite Photo. In this one, the tear actually drops from the corner
> > of the eye.
> >
> > If the last version annoyed you, this one will really raise your blood
> > pressure.
>
> Don't tell me. They also contorted his beak into a frown?
>
> Jack
>
> --
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No, Jack, I'm not telling you. If you want to know, you'll have to ask
for the files.

I don't totally understand the why of what makes some people discount
others for finding comfort, inspiration, or anything of an emotional
nature in a song or a poem or even a symbolic image. What I suspect is
that is has something to do with a personal shame of feeling those
emotions themselves.

Personally, I find that my life goes better and I feel more loving
toward others when I allow myself to laugh, cry, feel pain, shame and
most importantly pride and gratitude.

If you want to be "Mr. Hardass" that's up to you. You are correct;
birds don't shed tears. But humans do and I'm touched by the image of
our national bird, the bald eagle, symbolically crying the tears of
Americans over this unimaginable horror.

<FONT COLOR="baboonbuttred"><BLINK>I LOVE YOU!!!</BLINK></FONT>

Marguerite Floyd

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Sep 18, 2001, 10:27:57 AM9/18/01
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As usual, I agree with Jack.

>I finally saw the firemen-raising-the-flag photo in a a montage of stills
>on MSNBC. Real moment. Real people. Real gut wrenching. Makes the
>concept of this eagle composite seem really ludicrous, beyond what I've
>already said about it. But that's just MHO.
>
>I think one of the reasons it bothers me is that I loathe fakery,
>*ESPECIALLY* where eliciting an emotional response is concerned. And
>*ESPECIALLY* when it's unnecesssary when so many -real- photographs exist.
>
>I'll tell you something else that's real. Earlier today I passed by the
>local fire station. A few of the firefighters were out front, accepting
>donations for their brothers who'd fallen at the WTC. I knew that if I
>stopped, looking one of them in the eye would be emotional. But no problem,
>I thought. I can handle it. Well, my composure left me as he thanked me
>for my meager offering. My lips quivered and I began sobbing like a baby
>as I turned away from him. A real connection to the catastrophe. I don't
>need no -phony- tears! I don't need no stinkin corny eagle!
>
>Sorry if I got carried away there. I'm not trying to sway anybody. Just
>expressing my own views. There's at least one person who wants nothing to
>do with it.

Joanne

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Sep 18, 2001, 11:25:50 AM9/18/01
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Marguerite Floyd wrote:
>
> As usual, I agree with Jack.

There's nothing wrong with being a purist.

Toucanldy

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Sep 18, 2001, 5:36:08 PM9/18/01
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Owly

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Sep 18, 2001, 6:59:42 PM9/18/01
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"Carl Jung" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message
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> Symbolic representations of reality elicit emotional responses longer than
> images of reality and are easier for the mind to comprehend.

Whoa, dude! I thought you were like...DEAD or something!

owly


Jessica

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Sep 18, 2001, 6:59:18 PM9/18/01
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"Carl Jung" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in
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> Symbolic representations of reality elicit emotional responses
longer than
> images of reality and are easier for the mind to comprehend.


I wholeheartedly agree.
I have stopped watching a lot of the news channels because I simply
cannot take seeing the towers collapsing again...and again...and
again. It's too much

On a different note:
I had to serve jury duty today, and was among the first 4 dismissed.
One of the other 4 was a retired New York firefighter. As we stood to
leave, the judge spoke to the man and offered condolences and the
utmost respect for him and his fallen comrades. The whole court room
applauded, and I'll tell you, there were few dry eyes.

It was a moment I don't think I'll forget.


Jessica
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Toucanldy

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Sep 18, 2001, 8:52:42 PM9/18/01
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>From: High Flight j...@apk.net

>Can you cite even -one- instance where a mere symbol has eclipsed a
>photograph in depicting a historically significant event? I can't
>think of one. But I'm obviously biased.

I don't know if this would count, but "Uncle Sam Wants You," comes to mind.
Regards

Joanne

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Sep 18, 2001, 9:09:56 PM9/18/01
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Eclipse isn't fair, but here are some identifiable symbols in memory of
or representative of something real and important:

The Vietnam Wall
The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier
The Alamo
Smoky the Bear (not an event but not "the real bear" either)
The Pearl Harbor Memorial
The Crucifix
The Coliseum
The Statue of Liberty

I'm stopping, but I'm not done.

Joanne

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Sep 18, 2001, 9:20:10 PM9/18/01
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Joanne wrote:
>
> Toucanldy wrote:
> >
> > >From: High Flight j...@apk.net
> >
> > >Can you cite even -one- instance where a mere symbol has eclipsed a
> > >photograph in depicting a historically significant event? I can't
> > >think of one. But I'm obviously biased.
> >
> > I don't know if this would count, but "Uncle Sam Wants You," comes to mind.
> > Regards
> >
>
> Eclipse isn't fair, but here are some identifiable symbols in memory of
> or representative of something real and important:
>
> The Vietnam Wall
> The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier
> The Alamo
> Smoky the Bear (not an event but not "the real bear" either)
> The Pearl Harbor Memorial
> The Crucifix
> The Coliseum
> The Statue of Liberty
>
> I'm stopping, but I'm not done.

I forgot the most important of all:

Each and every star and each and every stripe on the US flag.

Jim Wallace

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Sep 18, 2001, 9:46:57 PM9/18/01
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Jack wrote:
>Anyway, five exceptions come immediately to mind, of photographs of
>specific historical events whose images have endured for decades:

>1 - The Marines hoisting the flag on Io Jima.
The picture was staged after the actual raising of the flag - so symbolism.

>2 - The anguished Kent State student kneeling over a fallen fellow student.
This was not a Kent State student, but a high school student who should not have
been on campus.

>Can you cite even -one- instance where a mere symbol has eclipsed a
>photograph in depicting a historically significant event? I can't
>think of one. But I'm obviously biased.

I can - pre photojournalism - the symbolism embodied in the cross.


misty

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Sep 18, 2001, 9:53:40 PM9/18/01
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Here's a symbolic picture that I think most will agree is quite fitting
and, perhaps, moving in some small way.

http://gaidos.got.net/NewWTC.jpg

~misty

The Wrong Trousers

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Sep 18, 2001, 10:21:47 PM9/18/01
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In article <9o8mcq$sa3$1...@plonk.apk.net>, j...@apk.net says...

> 2 - The anguished Kent State student kneeling over a fallen fellow student.

Not to be pedantic, but she was not a student... she was an underage
runaway who had come to Kent State for a "love-in".

-- Trou (I'm old enough to remember)
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Sep 19, 2001, 12:07:39 AM9/19/01
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"Toucanldy" <touc...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.uniontrib.com/news/features/breen/images/cartoonsept13.gif
>
> Regards
>

Good one TCL. That's the same one my friend sent me the other day--same day
I heard about Joanne's pics.

John


Andee

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Sep 19, 2001, 10:52:55 AM9/19/01
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misty wrote:

I agree. Can anyone post the site of Uncle Sam telling 'em to "look
out!!"??


Joanne

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Sep 19, 2001, 12:53:22 PM9/19/01
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High Flight wrote:
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> Carl Jung <Anonymous...@see.comment.header> says...

> >> Can you cite even -one- instance where a mere symbol has eclipsed a photograph
> >> in depicting a historically significant event? I can't think of one.
> >> But I'm obviously biased.
> >
> > Swastika!
>
> Another non-answer. Next!

>
> Jack
>
> --
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> Fun photo contest: http://home.dal.net/jam/kimva_photo.html

This little game is another distraction to avoid FEELING. No one will
get it right, will they?

It's all irrelevant; like arguing over whether you like photographs or
abstract art.

One is not better than the other; it's all a matter of preference. One
does not cancel the other; they each have their appreciative audience.

No one ever attempted to take anything away from the tragedy. If you
don't like something, you're entitled. You are not wrong, but you are
not any more right than anyone else.

Wanna' call me a politician again? It is a stab in the heart.

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