>>>> Mike Hendrix wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 23:33:11 -0500, bill horne<redy...@rye.net>
>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> Mike Hendrix wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:15:02 -0500, bill horne<redy...@rye.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>> Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article<50a6b2c7$0$27185$c3e8da3$66d3c...@news.astraweb.com>,
>>>>>>>>>      MaxD<gmdi...@att.net>     wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2012 12:42 PM, Jan Orme wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2:23 pm, Jan Orme<JanOrm...@aol.com>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 8:49 am, Jan Orme<JanOrm...@aol.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:>     On Nov 15, 8:47
>>>>>>>>>>>> am, Jan Orme<JanOrm...@aol.com>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>       Petraeus To Testify Behind Closed Doors On Benghazi
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fridayhttp://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57550090/petraeus-to-testify-beh

>>>>>>>>>>>>> i...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>       McCain 'goes after' Obama's Failed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leadershiphttp://video.foxnews.com/v/1969794239001/mccain-goes-after-obama

>>>>>>>>>>>>> s-fai...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>       Jan

>>>>>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>>>>> Benghazi Buck Stops With Obama? (But they pass the Buck
>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway...see
>>>>>>>>>>>> below)http://video.foxnews.com/v/1969791011001/benghazi-buck-stops-with-oba

>>>>>>>>>>>> ...

>>>>>>>>>>>> WH Refers Scandal Questions to Other Agencies 10 Times in 10
>>>>>>>>>>>> Minuteshttp://cnsnews.com/news/article/wh-refers-scandal-questions-other-ag

>>>>>>>>>>>> e...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>>>>> King: Petraeus Said CIA's Talking Points Were Edited to Play Down
>>>>>>>>>>> Terrorism
>>>>>>>>>>> http://mrctv.org/videos/king-petraeus-said-cias-talking-points-were-e...

>>>>>>>>>>> lay-down-terrorism

>>>>>>>>>>> Jan

>>>>>>>>>> And that from no less a reliable source than Peter King.  LMAO.

>>>>>>>>> So, the story is the King got a classified briefing and which he
>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> disclosed????

>>>>>>>>> Snork.

>>>>>>>>> PS for the wingnuts whining about the POTUS disclosing
>>>>>>>>> classified info.
>>>>>>>>> Ah, you really need to learn how the government handles
>>>>>>>>> classifying and
>>>>>>>>> de-classifying information. It's a function of the Executive
>>>>>>>>> branch, not
>>>>>>>>> the Judicial or Legislative. So it's ultimately the President's
>>>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>>>> what is, and is not, classified.

>>>>>>>> What, exactly, is classified about "It was terrorists" as opposed to
>>>>>>>> the lie of "It was extremists reacting to a video"?

>>>>>>> bill, I agree with you.  HOWEVER, as all of us that have worked for
>>>>>>> DOD know in spades....... their superiors lie like a coon dog basking
>>>>>>> on the porch..... it just comes all too natural for them.

>>>>>>> I can remember preparing briefs for Admirals and not recognizing the
>>>>>>> comments when they were delivered.  Absolutely nothing resembling the
>>>>>>> truth or facts of the matter........ but they are the ones that are
>>>>>>> masters at telling people what they want to hear.  That is how they
>>>>>>> get into those positions.

>>>>>> Except in this case, they were not telling people what they want to
>>>>>> hear - they were telling people what they wanted them to hear.
>>>>> -------------------------

>>>>> bill, I think it happens all the time.  I seem to remember Colin
>>>>> Powell delivering a speech to the UN (was it the UN?)  In any event he
>>>>> had been fed "talking points" also.

>>>> But you seem to misremember that most leading Democrats and most of
>>>> the leaders of the Western World also believed what he said. And they
>>>> believed it well before he said it.

>>>>> As I recall he was one pissed off
>>>>> puppy when he found that he had actually been lying with the talking
>>>>> points he had been provided.

>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>> During an interview with The Daily Show host Jon Stewart, former
>>>> Secretary of State Colin Powell said he regretted telling the United
>>>> Nations that Iraq was harboring weapons of mass destruction.

>>>> "I, of course, regret the U.N. speech that I gave," he said, "which
>>>> became the prominent presentation of our case. But we thought it was
>>>> correct at the time. The President thought it was correct. Congress
>>>> thought it was correct."
>>>> ------------------------------------------------

>>>> So who was "lying"?

>>>>> Of course that was under a different administrations so we should
>>>>> probably forget that one.

>>>> No, we should probably remember the facts rather than what you "seem
>>>> to remember".

>>> bill, here is a quote from his interview with Barbara Walters:

>>> "Asked further how he felt upon learning that he had been misled about
>>> the accuracy of intelligence on which he relied, Mr. Powell said,
>>> "Terrible." He added that it was "devastating" to learn later that
>>> some intelligence agents knew the information he had was unreliable
>>> but did not speak up."

>> So who was "lying"? Who "misled" him?

>> Why did the intelligence agencies of other nations think the same thing?

>Um...Foreign Aid??