Aluminum Lawn Chairs

[rtavi]

Why in the heck doesn't someone make aluminum folding lawn chairs anymore?
They are nice and light and don't rust like the heavy steel ones. The only
ones I can find are the very short beach chairs and some of the old ones on
eBay sold as "retro" furniture. We always kept 2 in the back of the pickup
handy for impromptu picnics when traveling.

[Tom J]

We are still using 2 of the web strap, round tube, aluminum folding chairs
we bought in 1975 from K-Mart at 2 for $5.00 I found rolls of webbing at a
flea market for $1.00 per roll that I keep in a black bag to keep the light
off. They have probably been re-webbed 30 or more times!! We buy and try
new chairs and go back to these clunkers because they are light & sit good!!

Tom J

[Technobarbarian]

"rtavi" <mycrof...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jo64h9$uen$1...@dont-email.me...

With the entire internet in front of you how hard can it be to find
aluminum folding lawn chairs?

http://www.target.com/p/Outdoor-Folding-Strap-Chair-Blue/-/A-13966577
http://www.lawnchairusa.com/

TB

[Tom J]

Go back and read the discription of those chairs. You haven't found aluminum
chairs!! They are STEEL!!

Tom J

[Technobarbarian]

"Tom J" <tomn...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:rNmdnbqMrbj8AzvS...@earthlink.com...

The Target chair is steel. The other company's chairs appear to be
aluminum. Does a steel chair weigh so much that it's a big deal?

TB

[Lone Haranguer]

Too many obese people had the chairs collapse. Just another
potential lawsuit.
LZ

[Tom J]

It makes a big difference if you are going half way across the campground to
a social and are carrying your chair, a couple of drinks and snacks to share
like many of us do!!!

Tom J

[Tom J]

Mine have been reinforced at the joints and larger rivets added and the
webbing is now doubled. They are not any more likely to collapse than those
off the shelf!! That said, I try to keep people that weight 200+ pounds out
of them!! They will break the double straps before the frame collapses!!

Tom J

[Technobarbarian]

"Tom J" <tomn...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:LbKdnX0hefSMPjvS...@earthlink.com...

In that case an alternate solution is to get one of these. One person
could easily take the chairs, a couple of drinks, snacks to share
and the kitchen sink half way across the campground.

<http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11753765&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|1892|50503|51856&N=4016299&Mo=3&No=3&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=51856&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&hierPath=1892*50503*51856*&topnav=national>

TB

[rtavi]

"Technobarbarian" <Technobarbar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Because those at Target are steel I'm looking for aluminum.
>

[dm_callier]

On May 6, 9:33 am, "rtavi" <mycroftmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Technobarbarian" <Technobarbarian-ztopz...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >news:jo64h9$uen$1...@dont-email.me...
> >> Why in the heck doesn't someone make aluminum folding lawn chairs
> >> anymore? They are nice and light and don't rust like the heavy steel
> >> ones.  The only ones I can find are the very short beach chairs and some
> >> of the old ones on eBay sold as "retro" furniture.  We always kept 2 in
> >> the back of the pickup handy for impromptu picnics when traveling.
>
> >       With the entire internet in front of you how hard can it be to find
> > aluminum folding lawn chairs?
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> >http://www.target.com/p/Outdoor-Folding-Strap-Chair-Blue/-/A-13966577
> >http://www.lawnchairusa.com/
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> > TB
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> Because those at Target are steel I'm looking for aluminum.
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http://www.lawnchairusa.com/Picnic-Chair_c_24.html

TB did include a link to this site...I just refined it to drill down
to the aluminum chairs...a bit pricey, but they are aluminum...

[Hunter Hampton]

On 5/6/2012 11:33 AM, rtavi wrote:
>>
>> http://www.target.com/p/Outdoor-Folding-Strap-Chair-Blue/-/A-13966577
>> http://www.lawnchairusa.com/
>>
>> TB
> Because those at Target are steel I'm looking for aluminum.
>>

TB,

Please try to do better next time :p

Hunter

[dm_callier]

On May 6, 8:14 am, "rtavi" <mycroftmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why in the heck doesn't someone make aluminum folding lawn chairs anymore?

Market dried up?

> They are nice and light and don't rust like the heavy steel ones.

Webbing kits and hardware are available online to refurbish older
chairs.

[LonVanOstran]

Aluminum is soft and doesn't hold up over time. We just sold our Zip Dee
stainless steel chairs, after 18 years of heavy use. The original fabric
was still perfect, and the stainless frame was as well. The only place
these chairs showed their age was in the wood arm rests. They stood up
to 7.5 years of full time use, and a long life before that of heavy
weekend use. If I were in the market for a folding lawn chair, Zip Dee
would be my first choice. They fold flat and are virtually indestructible.

I removed your cross posting.

Lon

[Hunter Hampton]

On 5/6/2012 12:09 PM, LonVanOstran wrote:
> Aluminum is soft and doesn't hold up over time. We just sold our Zip Dee
> stainless steel chairs, after 18 years of heavy use. The original fabric
> was still perfect, and the stainless frame was as well. The only place
> these chairs showed their age was in the wood arm rests. They stood up
> to 7.5 years of full time use, and a long life before that of heavy
> weekend use. If I were in the market for a folding lawn chair, Zip Dee
> would be my first choice. They fold flat and are virtually indestructible.

They come with new Airstreams, at least some models....

They do last forever but some people, like me, find them to be very
uncomfortable.

Hunter

[nothermark]

On Sun, 6 May 2012 10:14:47 -0500, "rtavi" <mycrof...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> aluminum folding lawn chair

Interesting question so I did some looking. It looks like high
strenght steel bag chairs have taken over the bottom of the market.
Aluminum bag chairs are more expensive. If this is what you are
looking for the price might be your answer:

http://www.beachmall.com/product/WOS481/Padded-Beach-Loumger--4N1-Beach-Chairs--Chaise-from-BeachMall.html



That site came off this one:

http://furniture.lovetoknow.com/Aluminum_Folding_Lawn_Chair

happy looking!

[nothermark]

First link is steel frame, did not check second. If you read the
details aluminum frames are hard to find.

[nothermark]

Got one, they are tricky beasts as the wheels are inside the frame so
they tend to tip.

As far as carry chairs i saw a variety of aluminum bag chairs when I
looked. They are a bit higher in price but lighter than the steel
one's.

Add one of these and a couple of bungee cords and it would make the
walk along the road/sidewalk pleasant while hauling it all:

http://www.amazon.com/Safco%C2%AE-Stow-Crate-Cart-Black/dp/B002XK07LC

[nothermark]

He is also clueless about the properties of available aluminum and
steel tubing. Aluminum is softer than iron but once one starts
alloying and heat treating there are wide overlaps in strength and
stiffness.

[bill horne]

nothermark wrote:
> On Sun, 6 May 2012 10:14:47 -0500, "rtavi"<mycrof...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> aluminum folding lawn chair
>
> Interesting question so I did some looking. It looks like high
> strenght steel bag chairs have taken over the bottom of the market.
> Aluminum bag chairs are more expensive. If this is what you are
> looking for the price might be your answer:

Or he could just get the aluminum folding lawn chair that he actually
asked about, and that TB showed him here:
http://www.lawnchairusa.com/
For $30.

>
> http://www.beachmall.com/product/WOS481/Padded-Beach-Loumger--4N1-Beach-Chairs--Chaise-from-BeachMall.html
>
>
>
> That site came off this one:
>
> http://furniture.lovetoknow.com/Aluminum_Folding_Lawn_Chair
>
> happy looking!
>

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

[Technobarbarian]

"nothermark" <nothe...@not.here> wrote in message
news:84fdq753j3irffe4p...@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 6 May 2012 09:29:34 -0700, "Technobarbarian"
> <Technobarbar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://www.target.com/p/Outdoor-Folding-Strap-Chair-Blue/-/A-13966577
>>>>>> http://www.lawnchairusa.com/

>>
>><http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11753765&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|1892|50503|51856&N=4016299&Mo=3&No=3&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=51856&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&hierPath=1892*50503*51856*&topnav=national>
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>>TB
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>
> Got one, they are tricky beasts as the wheels are inside the frame so
> they tend to tip.

I have a couple of all metal ones that I bought from Costco several
years ago. I've found them easy to use, but you do have to have something on
them to keep them from trying to fold back up.

>
> As far as carry chairs i saw a variety of aluminum bag chairs when I
> looked. They are a bit higher in price but lighter than the steel
> one's.

I own a couple of those too. They'll do in a pinch, but I find them
a bit uncomfortable and not really practical to use sitting at a table
because you sit a bit low. Depending on age and agility they can be a bit
difficult to get out of.

>
> Add one of these and a couple of bungee cords and it would make the
> walk along the road/sidewalk pleasant while hauling it all:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Safco%C2%AE-Stow-Crate-Cart-Black/dp/B002XK07LC

Those are a bit flimsy and the wheels are too small for rough
surfaces like gravel and grass.

TB

[LonVanOstran]

I'm not clueless about what can be done with aluminum. But YOU seem to
be clueless regarding what the folding chair industry is making
available in folding chairs.

I recommended a quality chair. All you've done is take brainless pot-shots.

Lon

[Tom J]

LonVanOstran wrote:
> rtavi wrote:
>> Why in the heck doesn't someone make aluminum folding lawn chairs
>> anymore? They are nice and light and don't rust like the heavy steel
>> ones. The only ones I can find are the very short beach chairs and
>> some of the old ones on eBay sold as "retro" furniture. We always
>> kept 2 in the back of the pickup handy for impromptu picnics when
>> traveling.
>
> Aluminum is soft and doesn't hold up over time. We just sold our Zip
> Dee stainless steel chairs, after 18 years of heavy use.

When we bought our 1986 Avon trailer it came with Zip Dee wide chairs. They
were the most uncomfortable chairs we ever owned. We put them in the flee
market sale after 2 trips with them. Like I said, these old aluminum chairs
are still getting the job done for us!! It has helped that I am handy with
maintaince repairs!!

Tom J

Tom J

[Tom J]

bill horne wrote:
> nothermark wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 May 2012 10:14:47 -0500, "rtavi"<mycrof...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> aluminum folding lawn chair
>>
>> Interesting question so I did some looking. It looks like high
>> strenght steel bag chairs have taken over the bottom of the market.
>> Aluminum bag chairs are more expensive. If this is what you are
>> looking for the price might be your answer:
>
> Or he could just get the aluminum folding lawn chair that he actually
> asked about, and that TB showed him here:
> http://www.lawnchairusa.com/
> For $30.

http://www.lawnchairusa.com/Blue-Sands-Picnic-Chair_p_107.html

This is the closest model to ours, except ours have aluminum arm rest
instead of molded plastic. The plastic arm rest will most likely go before
the webbing or frame.

Tom J

[Max]

On 5/6/2012 12:49 PM, LonVanOstran wrote:

> I recommended a quality chair. All you've done is take brainless pot-shots.
>
> Lon

Ah, the irony.

[Max]

On 5/6/2012 1:10 PM, Tom J wrote:

> When we bought our 1986 Avon trailer it came with Zip Dee wide chairs. They
> were the most uncomfortable chairs we ever owned. We put them in the flee
> market sale after 2 trips with them. Like I said, these old aluminum chairs
> are still getting the job done for us!! It has helped that I am handy with
> maintaince repairs!!
>
> Tom J

Did the chairs flee at the flea market? ;-)

Max

[bill horne]

And the steely and the aluminumy. Not to mention the marinumy.

[nothermark]

On Sun, 06 May 2012 14:28:07 -0400, bill horne <red...@rye.net>
wrote:

Yup. But he can buy a steel bag chair for under $10 on sale. Aluminum
bag chairs cost more than that. I just used them as a pricing
comparison.

Interesting to note that the webbing kit costs more than what most of
us spent on the equivalent chair when they were popular. ;-) I
wonder what it would cost to do one in 550 cord these days. Might try
it and find out as I think there are some good frames in the garage.

[nothermark]

agreed. ;-)

What I wonder about is why somebody like CampingWorld is not marketing
a crate cart with decent wheels. While I agree that bag chairs are
not the best at a table the flat folders are no better. OTOH I think
there is room to pair the crate with two bag chairs and a high narrow
cooler that would do a wine bottle and stackable containers or a
sixpack stacked. With decent wheels it would be a handy rig for
campfires or concerts. Bungee on a small pack or box for odds and
ends.

Now I'm wondering how the wheels are attached to my folding crate. I'd
go look but I need a minder to do stairs. ;-)

[nothermark]

Only if you think stainless steel is the only answer. As I recall the
OP wanted something light to carry. Stainless is nice but it is not
light.

[Hunter Hampton]

On 5/6/2012 3:52 PM, nothermark wrote:
> Only if you think stainless steel is the only answer. As I recall the
> OP wanted something light to carry. Stainless is nice but it is not
> light.

Lon's correct about the Zip Dee chairs, they are very light, very easy
to carry.... and they do last forever....

Just uncomfortable..

hunter

[LonVanOstran]

I didn't suggest that my recommendation was the only answer. It's the
one WE chose, and it worked very well for us for 18 years.

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion. What's really sad is that
offering advice when it's requested is more dangerous on RORT, than it
is in most people's homes while they are raising teenagers. Of course,
that only proves that most teenagers are more mature than the average
RORT troll.

If you don't like my advice, by all means don't act on it. My feelings
won't be hurt.

Lon

[LonVanOstran]

Hunter is right, as well. Many people find the bar across the front of
the chair bites into their leg. Carolyn and I never had that problem,
but it's one I've heard many times. Some people should avoid chairs
which have that bar across the front. There is no one chair that is
perfect for everyone.

Lon

[Max]

On 5/6/2012 2:33 PM, bill horne wrote:
> Max wrote:
>> On 5/6/2012 12:49 PM, LonVanOstran wrote:
>>
>>> I recommended a quality chair. All you've done is take brainless
>>> pot-shots.
>>>
>>> Lon
>>
>> Ah, the irony.
>
> And the steely and the aluminumy. Not to mention the marinumy.
>

What about the copernicus? And the leadicrous? And Tinnitus?
To mention a few more.

[Max]

I just bygod luv it.

[richard]

On Sun, 6 May 2012 10:14:47 -0500, rtavi wrote:

> Why in the heck doesn't someone make aluminum folding lawn chairs anymore?
> They are nice and light and don't rust like the heavy steel ones. The only
> ones I can find are the very short beach chairs and some of the old ones on
> eBay sold as "retro" furniture. We always kept 2 in the back of the pickup
> handy for impromptu picnics when traveling.

Make your own.
Get conduit at any local hardware store and a pipe bender.
Just follow the pattern they use.

[Dean]

And mercurious but it keeps slipping through your fingers.

Or bismuthoury.

--

If you can get people to believe absurdities,
you can get them to commit atrocities.
-Voltaire

[gregz]

dm_callier <dm.ca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 6, 8:14 am, "rtavi" <mycroftmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Why in the heck doesn't someone make aluminum folding lawn chairs anymore?
>
> Market dried up?
>

It's what the Chinese decide to make cheap.

Greg

[gregz]

Need a magnesium chair. Very light.

Greg

[Tom J]

A couple of Air Streamers walked up and bought them within 5 minutes after
the Flea market opened!!

Tom J

[bill horne]

You just Had to mention tinnitus, huh?
Asshole.

[Max]

Carbon fiber

[Max]

On 5/6/2012 9:10 PM, bill horne wrote:
> Max wrote:
>> On 5/6/2012 2:33 PM, bill horne wrote:
>>> Max wrote:
>>>> On 5/6/2012 12:49 PM, LonVanOstran wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I recommended a quality chair. All you've done is take brainless
>>>>> pot-shots.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lon
>>>>
>>>> Ah, the irony.
>>>
>>> And the steely and the aluminumy. Not to mention the marinumy.
>>>
>>
>> What about the copernicus? And the leadicrous? And Tinnitus?
>> To mention a few more.
>
> You just Had to mention tinnitus, huh?
> Asshole.
>

No,no,no. Tinnitus is in the *ears*, not the asshole.
Or maybe it's the asshole's ears?

Max, uses a hearing aid that doesn't ring.

[nothermark]

Now you are talking!

[jerryosage]

On Mon, 07 May 2012 06:39:38 -0700, Evan Platt
<ev...@theobvious.espphotography.com.invalid> wrote:

>On Sun, 6 May 2012 18:43:02 -0400, richard <mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>>Make your own.
>>Get conduit at any local hardware store and a pipe bender.
>>Just follow the pattern they use.
>

>That should be an easy project for someone with experience such as
>yourself.
>
>Try it, when you're done building your dome home. Let us know how it
>works out.

To people whom have never done anything - everything looks easy.

richard stated that he was leaving everything up to the people setting
up his DW, including clearing the land.

Will the spot be conducive to building his dome? Can he hookup to the
utilities? will there be a stub out for sewer, etc?

At least he is on the right track to get a place to live. However, I
suspect that he hasn't even drawn up a plot plan so that in the event
that he does decide to attempt a dome the utilities that will be
installed for the DW will be convenient to the new construction.

I wish richard the best, but I expect the worst.

A few years ago a friend bought a nice woodworking shop's equipment.
The guy had retired and was going to keep busy by making furniture and
stuff. His attempts produced crap and he blamed the equipment. It
never occurred to him that if he sometimes cut to the left of the
cut-line, sometimes to the right. and sometimes right through the line
that it would cause problems.

He'd plane a board, reset the planer for something else and later
reset for another board. That didn't work very well so he blamed the
equipment, not his technique.

Bottom line - my friend got some good equipment for a great price
because the guy just knew it couldn't be because of him. Hell,
quality woodworking is easy, so it had to be poor quality tools
holding him back. richard appears to have the same mind-set.

Jerry O.

[JerryD(upstateNY)]

richard wrote: Get conduit at any local

hardware store and a pipe bender.
Just follow the pattern they use. <<<<<

Still another example of richard not knowing
anything about what he is talking about.
First, the conduit is made of soft steel.
It would rust to nothing in a year or 2.
Second, you can buy pre-bent 90º bends because bending
a 90º bend isn't as easy as richard seems to think.
Half inch tubing would be too weak and you can't bend 3/4"
tubing into a close enough bend for a lawn chair.
Anyone trying richard's idea will end up with a bunch of
kinked tubing and a $25.00 bender that they can't sell.

--
JerryD(upstateNY)

[Peter Lawrence]

On 5/6/12 8:14 AM, rtavi wrote:

> Why in the heck doesn't someone make aluminum folding lawn chairs anymore?

> They are nice and light and don't rust like the heavy steel ones. The only
> ones I can find are the very short beach chairs and some of the old ones on
> eBay sold as "retro" furniture. We always kept 2 in the back of the pickup
> handy for impromptu picnics when traveling.

There's quite few out there, but not the inexpensive kind. Most are in the
"director chair" style and often come with a small side table and/or beer
holder.

They usually go for around $30-$60 each. (The $30 price is when they go on
sale or are being sold at Costco.)

They are similar to this:

http://www.amazon.com/Mings-Mark-SL1204-BLUE-Folding-Directors/dp/B001BO1PNK


- Peter