Boston

[Hunter Hampton]

In case you don't know, two bombs went off at the finish line of the
Boston marathon....

Its on every channel.....

Hunter

[Pepperoni]

Hunter Hampton <airstrea...@gmail.com> wrote in news:516c6392$0
$1253$c3e8da3$fdf4...@news.astraweb.com:

It will likely be a short chase and summary judgement. Perps are likely
on camera and tied to the area by cell phone records.

[Tom J]

There is a good possibility cell phones were use as the trigger?? Cell phone
service was shut down!! Think they may already have good leads??

Tom J

[Pepperoni]

"Tom J" <tomn...@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:516c9228$0$7666$c3e8da3$12bc...@news.astraweb.com:

They have leads, but it will take a while to review evidence. Cams
between the two blasts will probably show the perp<s>. Mass transit
cams may show the getaway. Toll cams and gas stations will be checked.

Cell records will identify phones in use at that time and their
locations. After that the clues will need to be checked.

I expect arrests within a week, trial beginning in about 5 years.

[nothermark]

I'm not holding my breath...

[Hunter Hampton]

On 4/15/2013 6:09 PM, Pepperoni wrote:
> I expect arrests within a week, trial beginning in about 5 years.

Any thoughts who it might be?

Foreign terrorists? American terrorists?

I think its an American nut case who is protesting either abortion or
gun control... or just hates the president...

Or.... the fact that the marathon was honoring the kids killed in
Newtown, and the resulting anti gun crusades...

I hope they get him, or her, fast...

Hunter

[Owen McKenzie]

I generally don't respond to this type of post, but Hunter, what
inspired those wild ideas? There is, as far as I've seen, no credible
information about cause, and here you are, theorizing it is someone who
holds a position opposed to yours.

--

Owen McKenzie
Posting from Largo, FL

"It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument."
-- William G. McAdoo

[Jenny6833A]

On Monday, April 15, 2013 7:48:04 PM UTC-7, Owen McKenzie wrote:
> On 4/15/2013 10:33 PM, Hunter Hampton wrote:
>
> > On 4/15/2013 6:09 PM, Pepperoni wrote:
>
> >> I expect arrests within a week, trial beginning in about 5 years.
>
> >
>
> > Any thoughts who it might be?
>
> >
>
> > Foreign terrorists? American terrorists?
>
> >
>
> > I think its an American nut case who is protesting either abortion or
>
> > gun control... or just hates the president...
>
> >
>
> > Or.... the fact that the marathon was honoring the kids killed in
>
> > Newtown, and the resulting anti gun crusades...
>
> >
>
> > I hope they get him, or her, fast...
>
> >
>
> > Hunter
>
> >
>
> >
>
> I generally don't respond to this type of post, but Hunter, what
>
> inspired those wild ideas? There is, as far as I've seen, no credible
>
> information about cause, and here you are, theorizing it is someone who
>
> holds a position opposed to yours.

There are nutcases on all sides of everything, but the violent ones tend to be as Hunter described. I'll be very surprised if Hunter turns out to be wrong.

[Hunter Hampton]

On 4/15/2013 7:48 PM, Owen McKenzie wrote:
>>
> I generally don't respond to this type of post, but Hunter, what
> inspired those wild ideas? There is, as far as I've seen, no credible
> information about cause, and here you are, theorizing it is someone who
> holds a position opposed to yours.

I don't think they are wild ideas at all....

Another idea, since its tax day a nut case who doesn't think taxes are
fair...

Hunter

[Lone Haranguer]

Most likely someone who is here illegally.....like Obama's aunt
and uncle.

LZ
>
>

[Lone Haranguer]

You really think Obama did it? He's the nut case who bitches
about unfair taxes more than anyone.

LZ

[Bruce S]

Actually, the violent nutcases in this country have tended to be left
wing nuts, so Hunter is probably wrong.

--
Bruce

Thomas Jefferson - "The policy of the American government is to leave
their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits.

No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of
another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him."

[Hunter Hampton]

On 4/15/2013 9:16 PM, Bruce S wrote:
>
> Actually, the violent nutcases in this country have tended to be left
> wing nuts, so Hunter is probably wrong.

I'm pretty sure I said nut case, I didn't say anything about party
affiliations.

Hunter

[bill horne]

You said: "I think its an American nut case who is protesting either

abortion or gun control... or just hates the president... "

How many leftwing nutcases are likely to be bombing to protest
abortion or gun control? Or just hate the President?

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

[film...@gmail.com]

On Monday, April 15, 2013 7:48:04 PM UTC-7, Owen McKenzie wrote:

You don't usually respond to this type of post, but think Hunter is just having wild ideas to consider it might be the work of some right wingers?

My first guess would be some small group of anti-tax nutcases, since the attack was in Boston, on April 15? Have you heard of any left wing fringe groups who hate taxes, and think they are being robbed by the government at gunpoint?

It will be interesting to see how this mystery unfolds? I hope it isn't domestic terrorism, but it wouldn't surprise me much to discover that Tea Party nutters are involved?

Raymond J. Johnson Jr. Sky Marshal of the Universe

[nothermark]

Like the right wing nutcases who put pipe bombs in various places to
protest the Vietnam War?

A rough quote of of one of the security experts on the news runs
"there is no shortage of small groups who have a grudge".

[Will Sill]

On 4/15/13 10:33 PM, Hunter Hampton wrote:

> Any thoughts who it might be?
>
> Foreign terrorists? American terrorists?
>
> I think its an American nut case who is protesting either abortion or
> gun control... or just hates the president...
>
> Or.... the fact that the marathon was honoring the kids killed in
> Newtown, and the resulting anti gun crusades...
>
> I hope they get him, or her, fast...
>
> Hunter

Woman, you need to get help for your paranoid delusions!!!

Will

[dm_callier]

It's all just speculation far in advance of concrete evidence...think
back to the Oklahoma bombing and all the fantasies propounded before
the ugly truth was revealed...stay and calm and carry on...

[Lone Haranguer]

Most domestic terrorism in the past has been by left wing groups
or the federal government.

LZ












>
>
>
>

[Hunter Hampton]

On 4/16/2013 6:12 AM, Will Sill wrote:
> Woman, you need to get help for your paranoid delusions!!!
>
> Will

LOL, you need help for your ankle biting...

I'm thinking out loud..... is anything I wrote out of the realm of
possibility?

Hunter

[Hunter Hampton]

On 4/16/2013 12:06 AM, film...@gmail.com wrote:
> It will be interesting to see how this mystery unfolds? I hope it isn't domestic terrorism, but it wouldn't surprise me much to discover that Tea Party nutters are involved?

Hi Don,

I hope it is a domestic "Lone Wolf"

If it isn't, and its a foreign terrorist organization all hell is going
to break loose.

Hunter

[Hank]

Nothing is out of the realm of possibility. The domestic bombing I was involved with ( 2 bombs detonated, 3 others failed to detonate)., it was a single man causing a diversion for a robbery. He was quickly caught when a witness ran him down on his motorcycle. :-)

Hank

[Hunter Hampton]

On 4/16/2013 8:28 AM, Hank wrote:
> it was a single man causing a diversion for a robbery. He was quickly
> caught when a witness ran him down on his motorcycle.:-)
>
> Hank

How do you know he wasn't married?

<g>

Hunter

[Bruce S]

Pretend you are capable of a little basic honesty and explain to us how
you believe that someone "protesting either abortion or gun control...
or just hates the president... " is anything but a right winger.

[Owen McKenzie]

I personally think it was an 0bama supporter who thinks taxes are not
high enough on the working population, feels all guns should be taken
away from everyone except the police and the military, and all
pregnancies should be terminated in the third trimester.

And I base my thinking on the same type of logic that you based your's on.

Seriously, what good purpose is served by wild, ignorant speculation?

[Jan Orme]

On Apr 16, 10:59 am, Owen McKenzie <owenwmckenz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/15/2013 11:15 PM, Hunter Hampton wrote:
>
> > On 4/15/2013 7:48 PM, Owen McKenzie wrote:
>
> >> I generally don't respond to this type of post, but Hunter, what
> >> inspired those wild ideas? There is, as far as I've seen, no credible
> >> information about cause, and here you are, theorizing it is someone who
> >> holds a position opposed to yours.
>
> > I don't think they are wild ideas at all....
>
> > Another idea, since its tax day a nut case who doesn't think taxes are
> > fair...
>
> > Hunter
>
> I personally think it was an 0bama supporter who thinks taxes are not
> high enough on the working population, feels all guns should be taken
> away from everyone except the police and the military, and all
> pregnancies should be terminated in the third trimester.
>
> And I base my thinking on the same type of logic that you based your's on.
>
> Seriously, what good purpose is served by wild, ignorant speculation?
>
>

> Owen McKenzie
> Posting from Largo, FL

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wild, ignorant speculation is indeed rampant. As is usual here, Owen
as pet theories abound.

Meanwhile, some facts are surfacing as to the bomb forensics which may
be a clue to where these bombs "possibly" came from. I don't see
anything that "nails" it down yet but nails and ball bearings are
possible clues.
---------------
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The explosives used in the deadly Boston Marathon
bombing were contained in 6-liter pressure cookers and hidden in black
duffel bags on the ground, a person briefed on the investigation told
The Associated Press on Tuesday.

http://tinyurl.com/cqgebt3

Article Quotes In Part:
<< These types of pressure cooker explosives have been used in
Afghanistan, India, Nepal and Pakistan, according to a July 2010 joint
FBI and Homeland Security intelligence report. One of the three
devices used in the May 2010 Times Square attempted bombing was a
pressure cooker, the intelligence report said.

"Placed carefully, such devices provide little or no indication of an
impending attack," the report said.

The Pakistani Taliban, which claimed responsibility for the 2010
attempt in Times Square, has denied any role in the Boston Marathon
attack.>>

Jan

[Lone Haranguer]

Maybe a freelancer who got impatient with his original group?

LZ

[MaxD]

On 4/16/2013 11:59 AM, Owen McKenzie wrote:
> On 4/15/2013 11:15 PM, Hunter Hampton wrote:
>> On 4/15/2013 7:48 PM, Owen McKenzie wrote:
>>>>
>>> I generally don't respond to this type of post, but Hunter, what
>>> inspired those wild ideas? There is, as far as I've seen, no credible
>>> information about cause, and here you are, theorizing it is someone who
>>> holds a position opposed to yours.
>>
>> I don't think they are wild ideas at all....
>>
>> Another idea, since its tax day a nut case who doesn't think taxes are
>> fair...
>>
>> Hunter
>
> I personally think it was an 0bama supporter who thinks taxes are not
> high enough on the working population, feels all guns should be taken
> away from everyone except the police and the military, and all
> pregnancies should be terminated in the third trimester.
>
> And I base my thinking on the same type of logic that you based your's on.
>
> Seriously, what good purpose is served by wild, ignorant speculation?
>

While it is obvious that speculation by the media can create unfair
animosity why would an individual's comments among "friends" be anything
more than idle chatter?
Aren't we all friends here? ;-)

[Lone Haranguer]

At the barber shop the hair-snipper told me she was going to rush
out after work and buy a pressure cooker before they were removed
from the shelves or required a background check to purchase.

LZ

[Propwash]

Hunter Hampton wrote:
>
> I think its an American nut case who is protesting ...............
> ................... or just hates the president...
>
> Hunter


You mean... like a young Bill Ayers??

Paul

[George Anthony]

"Hunter Hampton" <airstrea...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:516d692a$0$63183$c3e8da3$3a1a...@news.astraweb.com...

Good news, Will, the great and powerful Hunter has "unplonked" you! You
should feel so honored.

[George Anthony]

"Lone Haranguer" <linu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:at5qua...@mid.individual.net...

I wonder who the libs will blame for this one -- another right wing nut
case?

http://tinyurl.com/cwrqw4a

[Lone Haranguer]

The video I saw of one of the explosions showed a LOT of white
smoke. Black powder produces white smoke.
Training bombs we used during Combat Crew Training School at
Langley AFB, VA had 100 lbs of sand and 5 lbs of black powder.
The black powder was called a "spotting charge".

Using black powder tells me an amateur made the
explosivedevices. I went through a class on bombs 60 odd years
ago and putting one together is a very simple process.

LZ

[MR]

Can you site an incident that makes you think a Tea Party member was
involved?
MR

[bill horne]

Owen McKenzie wrote:
> On 4/15/2013 11:15 PM, Hunter Hampton wrote:
>> On 4/15/2013 7:48 PM, Owen McKenzie wrote:
>>>>
>>> I generally don't respond to this type of post, but Hunter, what
>>> inspired those wild ideas? There is, as far as I've seen, no credible
>>> information about cause, and here you are, theorizing it is someone
>>> who
>>> holds a position opposed to yours.
>>
>> I don't think they are wild ideas at all....
>>
>> Another idea, since its tax day a nut case who doesn't think taxes are
>> fair...
>>
>> Hunter
>
> I personally think it was an 0bama supporter who thinks taxes are not
> high enough on the working population, feels all guns should be taken
> away from everyone except the police and the military, and all
> pregnancies should be terminated in the third trimester.
>
> And I base my thinking on the same type of logic that you based your's
> on.
>
> Seriously, what good purpose is served by wild, ignorant speculation?

I think it was a couch potato who is fed up with people who waste all
that energy running for the glory of running when they could be doing
something productive - like laying pavers, Walmart greeting,
registering voters, or picking cabbage.

[Pepperoni]

Lone Haranguer <linu...@gmail.com> wrote in news:at6a14FnbjcU1
@mid.individual.net:

'

Smokeless is more powerfull and easier to get. Even the black powder
shooters use a modern low-power substitute.

My initial guess was nitrocellulose, due to the report of the smell of
cordite, (real cordite makes brown smoke and most troops have never
smelled the real cordite.)

Powder is easy t0 get in volume. The kitchen chemist can make gun
cotton easily.

With luck, the idiot chose a product with a tagant inside.

[K Miller]

bill horne wrote:
>
> I think it was a couch potato who is fed up with people who waste all
> that energy running for the glory of running when they could be doing
> something productive - like laying pavers, Walmart greeting,
> registering voters, or picking cabbage.

Obviously we need laws banning criminals from having pressure cookers or at
least make everyone get a background check before allowing them to buy a
pressure cooker. Close the pressure cooker loopholes now!

[Bruce S]

In the history of politically motivated crime in this country (bombings,
assassinations, riots, etc.) betting on the left wing as the
perpetrators is a generally safe bet.

I read an article about the 10 biggest bombings in the US, and 2 were
Islamic radicals, 3 were to advance unions (therefore left wing), 2 were
anarchists (one left-wing, one right-wing), 2 were simple criminals
(bombing for profit), 1 insane.

So if we are dealing with a politically bombing here, it is four times
as likely that it was committed by a left winger as a right winger, and
twice as likely that it was an Islamic radical. And since virtually
every terrorist incident in this country since McVeigh were committed by
Islamists that would be the safest bet of all.

[MaxD]

We have two pressure cookers. I wonder if I'll have to register them.

[bill horne]

And no one should be able to buy more than 10 nails or ball bearings
within a 5-day period.

[Bob Hatch]

Most likely not, unless you try to sell them, then you must take them to
a kitchen store along with the buyer to have a background check done. If
they are large capacity, the government may choose to confiscate them,
or limit the amount of food that can be cooked in them at one time.

By the way, nobody "needs" 2 pressure cookers.


--
I do not carry a gun hoping that
I'll be able to shoot someone, anymore than
I carry a jack hoping I'll have a flat
tire.
Me.

[Hunter Hampton]

On 4/16/2013 7:28 PM, Bruce S wrote:
>
> So if we are dealing with a politically bombing here, it is four times
> as likely that it was committed by a left winger as a right winger, and
> twice as likely that it was an Islamic radical. And since virtually
> every terrorist incident in this country since McVeigh were committed by
> Islamists that would be the safest bet of all.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/07/opinion/bergen-terrorism-wisconsin/index.html


Hunter

[film...@gmail.com]

An interesting observation? Black powder certainly does make lots of white smoke! I made several black powder bombs during my feckless youth. I always had a healthy scientific curiosity about bombs, and we made our own black powder too! I deeply regret those fiendish, and dangerous practices... <wink wink>

I think black powder bombs would be too bulky to set up without getting caught? Black powder isn't that powerful, unless it was used to set off some kind of TNT, or a nitro fertilizer "goodie"?

BTW, who would have ever thunk that you'd be a bomb expert too? HawHawHaw!


Captain America

[Propwash]

"K Miller" wrote:
> Obviously we need laws banning criminals from having pressure
cookers or at
> least make everyone get a background check before allowing them to buy a
> pressure cooker. Close the pressure cooker loopholes now!

Today, Biden said no one needs a pressure cooker! You can get the
same results with a crock pot, and it's much safer operate.

Paul

[Hunter Hampton]

On 4/16/2013 9:43 AM, Bruce S wrote:
> Pretend you are capable of a little basic honesty and explain to us how
> you believe that someone "protesting either abortion or gun control...
> or just hates the president... " is anything but a right winger.

I think you are a right winger..... I think the person who did this
makes you look like a left winger... Owen may be right, it might be an
Obama supporter....

I didn't specify a party on purpose, but you are correct it usually is
right wing nut jobs who do things like blow up abortion clinics, and its
skinheads who might be angry about Obama being president.... if its the
gun control thing I know a lot of lefties who have guns...

HUnter

[Hunter Hampton]

On 4/16/2013 10:59 AM, Owen McKenzie wrote:
>
> I personally think it was an 0bama supporter who thinks taxes are not
> high enough on the working population, feels all guns should be taken
> away from everyone except the police and the military, and all
> pregnancies should be terminated in the third trimester.
>
> And I base my thinking on the same type of logic that you based your's on.
>
> Seriously, what good purpose is served by wild, ignorant speculation?

Really, am I, and now you, the only people who are speculating?

You may well be right, I hope so because I want it to be a lone wolf and
not a terrorist organization....

Seems the only real difference in this thread, between me and you, is
I'm not calling you ignorant and then doing the same thing you accuse me
of doing that makes me ignorant.

Hunter

[Hunter Hampton]

On 4/16/2013 11:55 AM, Jan Orme wrote:
> The Pakistani Taliban, which claimed responsibility for the 2010
> attempt in Times Square, has denied any role in the Boston Marathon
> attack.>>
>
> Jan

That's interesting.... doesn't the taliban usually take credit for stuff
like this, if they did it.

Whoever it was, I know only 3 deaths was a big disappointment. )c:

If it is someone from a place like Afghanistan I say fire up the Enola
Gay and let them see just what we can do.

Hunter

[Will Sill]

I do, I do.

Will

[MR]

CNN is a gov. media...........aka Communist News Network.
MR

[MaxD]

LOL. Like Phil Gramm said, "I have more than I need but not as many as
I want".
And that's not including the "pressure cooker" that appears when I come
home with an expensive new tool. ;-)

[Lone Haranguer]

Pepperoni wrote:
> Lone Haranguer <linu...@gmail.com> wrote in news:at6a14FnbjcU1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> Propwash wrote:
>>> Hunter Hampton wrote:
>>>> I think its an American nut case who is protesting
>>>> ............... ................... or just hates the
>>>> president...
>>>>
>>>> Hunter
>>>
>>> You mean... like a young Bill Ayers??
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>> The video I saw of one of the explosions showed a LOT of white
>> smoke. Black powder produces white smoke. Training bombs we used
>> during Combat Crew Training School at Langley AFB, VA had 100 lbs
>> of sand and 5 lbs of black powder. The black powder was called a
>> "spotting charge".
>>
>> Using black powder tells me an amateur made the explosivedevices.
>> I went through a class on bombs 60 odd years ago and putting one
>> together is a very simple process.
>>
>> LZ
>
> '
>
> Smokeless is more powerfull and easier to get. Even the black
powder
> shooters use a modern low-power substitute.

An amateur might not be aware of that fact. When I was reloading
I had a whole cupboard full of 5 lb canisters of various powders.
The various types were fast or slow burning depending on the load
they were pushing and the velocity I wanted to achieve.

Boxes of shells I still have show the recipe for the load written
inside the top flap

>
>
> My initial guess was nitrocellulose, due to the report of the
smell
> of cordite, (real cordite makes brown smoke and most troops have
> never smelled the real cordite.)

According to our instructors, the .50 caliber rounds from WWII we
used contained cordite. Whatever it was it looked like broken
pieces of the lead used in mechanical lead pencils.

In Korea, our heating fuel was contaminated with water and
produced a lot of soot. The tent stove and the stovepipes would
clog up every couple of days and disassembling the stove and
pipes was a messy chore. One day when it was my turn for the job
I took a .50 caliber round, pulled off the bullet with a pliers
and dumped the contents in the stove. WHOOMP and we had a clean
stove and chimney while soot rained down on the area around our tent.

> Powder is easy t0 get in volume. The kitchen chemist can make
gun cotton easily. With luck, the idiot chose a product with a
tagant inside.

The internet gives recipes for making black powder at home. Not
too difficult either.

LZ

[Lone Haranguer]

I can see it now......The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms,
Explosives and Pressure Cookers......

LZ

[Hunter Hampton]

On 4/17/2013 4:55 AM, Will Sill wrote:
>> Good news, Will, the great and powerful Hunter has "unplonked" you! You
>> should feel so honored.
>
> I do, I do.
>
> Will

I got a new computer...... I had already plonked George Anthony, but not
Will yet....

Will amuses me....

Hunter

[Lone Haranguer]

http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2008/june/ecoterror_063008

*Together, eco-terrorists and animal rights extremists are one of
the most serious domestic terrorism threats in the U.S. today…for
several good reasons:*

* The sheer volume of their crimes (over 2,000 since 1979);
* The huge economic impact (losses of more than $110 million
since 1979);
* The wide range of victims (from international corporations to
lumber companies to animal testing facilities to genetic
research firms); and
* Their increasingly violent rhetoric and tactics (one recent
communiqué sent to a California product testing company said:
“You might be able to protect your buildings, but can you
protect the homes of every employee?”).

*ELF and ALF are probably the names you’re most familiar with.

LZ
*

[Lone Haranguer]

I don't claim to be an expert but I did complete an Air Force
school on bombs in Dec 1952.

When I was 14 or so a friend and I built pipe bombs and used them
to blow up stumps.

His dad was a plumber and had pipe-cutting and thread-cutting
tools. A box of war surplus "Peter's" 12 ga buckshot
cost a dollar in those days. We cut them open and used the
powder for our experiments.

LZ

[Lone Haranguer]

Biden is a moron. Pressure cookers were commonly used in home
canning.

LZ

[jerryosage]

On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 22:22:00 -0700 (PDT), film...@gmail.com wrote:

>An interesting observation? Black powder certainly does make lots of white smoke! I made several black powder bombs during my feckless youth. I always had a healthy scientific curiosity about bombs, and we made our own black powder too! I deeply regret those fiendish, and dangerous practices... <wink wink>
>
>I think black powder bombs would be too bulky to set up without getting caught? Black powder isn't that powerful, unless it was used to set off some kind of TNT, or a nitro fertilizer "goodie"?

I too made and experimented with BP in the 50's .

From what I saw in the video with the flash and smoke leads me to
believe that the perp had very little experience with making BP.

I suspect that the BP in the bombs was still powdered and most of the
charge burned after the pressure vessel was breached.

I think we are looking for a homegrown nut with some Internet
learning, but no experience. That may/will make locating him
difficult because he is probably just the wierd loner down the street.
And, Im sure, almost everyone is aware of someone like that.

Moreover, I don't think the motive will be known until he is captured
or goaded into making contact with the media or authorities.

Since we are speculating, that is my speculation.

Jerry O.

[Hunter Hampton]

On 4/17/2013 9:32 AM, Jerry Osage wrote:
> I suspect that the BP in the bombs was still powdered and most of the
> charge burned after the pressure vessel was breached.
>
> I think we are looking for a homegrown nut with some Internet
> learning, but no experience. That may/will make locating him
> difficult because he is probably just the wierd loner down the street.
> And, Im sure, almost everyone is aware of someone like that.
>
> Moreover, I don't think the motive will be known until he is captured
> or goaded into making contact with the media or authorities.
>
> Since we are speculating, that is my speculation.
>
> Jerry O.

Hi Jerry,

That's what I think too, and hope.....

They already said on TV it was gunpowder..... I assume that's the same
as "Black powder"?


Hunter

[Lone Haranguer]

There are a wide variety of gun powders on the market....but
black powder produces white smoke and white smoke was obvious in
the blast video.

LZ

[Bruce S]

Imagine that, data provided by a "Progressive" organization claims that
conservatives are a threat to the country.

[Hunter Hampton]

They've identified the subject and an arrest is imminent according to
the TV.

Hunter

[Bruce S]

It's not the same thing, but the uninformed bozos you will find on CNN
wouldn't know that, and they would use the terms interchangeably.

[David "The Hamster" Malone]

On Apr 17, 1:37 pm, Lone Haranguer <linus...@gmail.com> wrote:

> There are a wide variety of gun powders on the market....but
> black powder produces white smoke and white smoke was obvious in
> the blast video.

Shoot... does that mean we've elected another Pope? I was just getting
used to Francis...

David "The Hamster" Malone

[Hunter Hampton]

On 4/17/2013 10:46 AM, Bruce S wrote:
> It's not the same thing, but the uninformed bozos you will find on CNN
> wouldn't know that, and they would use the terms interchangeably.
>
> --
> Bruce

I have no idea what they said on CNN... the guy who said it used to be
the guy in charge of explosives for the FBI.

Hunter

[Bruce S]

There are so many logical inconsistencies in what you wrote that i am
left believing that you are an incoherent, ranting, irrational,
hysterical nitwit. Of course I could be wrong - you might simply be too
simple minded to think.

[Hunter Hampton]

On 4/17/2013 10:47 AM, David "The Hamster" Malone wrote:
> Shoot... does that mean we've elected another Pope? I was just getting
> used to Francis...

LOL...

Here .... find the suspect....

http://tinyurl.com/culm9sl

[Bruce S]

Come on! Just how stupid does a person have to be not to figure out
that Owen was not speculating, he was being sarcastic.

Anyone who can read English should have figured that out without me
pointing it out.

[Hunter Hampton]

On 4/17/2013 10:52 AM, Bruce S wrote:
> There are so many logical inconsistencies in what you wrote that i am
> left believing that you are an incoherent, ranting, irrational,
> hysterical nitwit. Of course I could be wrong - you might simply be too
> simple minded to think.

Wow Bruce,

I win.

Hunter

[David "The Hamster" Malone]

On Apr 17, 1:52 pm, Hunter Hampton <airstreamingy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here .... find the suspect....
>
> http://tinyurl.com/culm9sl

Might be the one in the first picture with a red circle...?

David "The defective-detective Hamster" Malone

[Hunter Hampton]

On 4/17/2013 11:52 AM, David "The Hamster" Malone wrote:
>> http://tinyurl.com/culm9sl
> Might be the one in the first picture with a red circle...?
>
> David "The defective-detective Hamster" Malone
>

That's what I thought! Great minds.....

I fear they'll figure out who it is and find him dead... suicide.

That's what cowards do...

Hunter

[Mike Hendrix at dot]

-----------------------

Yea, CNN might not be your cup of tea BUT ----- MR did ask and got his
answer.

If any of the CNN information is incorrect please provide the proof.
Until then Hunter provided you with what you asked for.

mike
--

Pensacola, FL
http://www.travellogs.us/

[Jan Orme]

On Apr 16, 12:11 pm, Hunter Hampton <airstreamingy...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 4/16/2013 11:55 AM, Jan Orme wrote:
>
> > The Pakistani Taliban, which claimed responsibility for the 2010
> > attempt in Times Square, has denied any role in the Boston Marathon
> > attack.>>
>
> > Jan
>
> That's interesting.... doesn't the taliban usually take credit for stuff
> like this, if they did it.
>
> Whoever it was, I know only 3 deaths was a big disappointment. )c:
>
> If it is someone from a place like Afghanistan I say fire up the Enola
> Gay and let them see just what we can do.
>
> Hunter
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'm glad you don't have the control to set that into motion.

68 years ago Harry Truman had that control and he did set it into
motion. Those two bombs we dropped killed a lot of people. BUT not any
where near as many as what was already going on in the South Pacific
Islands, the fire bombing of Tokyo and what would have occured with
the invasion of Japan on both sides. I was going to be HORRIFIC and
huge beyond imagination!

The Boston thing is plenty horrific. But not even close to being a
trigger to start a possible nuclear conflict.

Our message with the demise of OBL was enough of a message to tell
those coward rat bastards that we can and will take their ass out and
don't need a nuke to do it. Pakistan has "The Bomb" and we went after
the coward with our Seals anyway. Now Pakistan knows they don't get to
harbor the likes of the coward OBL. Yet they are NOT stupid enoigh to
shoot a nuke.

Get a Grip!

BTW, there has been no arrest in this Boston case yet you fell for the
Dumb Ass Media early hair trigger Hype of Clowns falling all over each
other to be First. And for what reason?

Get a grip!

Jan

[Hunter Hampton]

On 4/17/2013 1:19 PM, Jan Orme wrote:
> I'm glad you don't have the control to set that into motion.>

me too, I like the guy who does.

>
> 68 years ago Harry Truman had that control and he did set it into
> motion. Those two bombs we dropped killed a lot of people. BUT not any
> where near as many as what was already going on in the South Pacific
> Islands, the fire bombing of Tokyo and what would have occured with
> the invasion of Japan on both sides. I was going to be HORRIFIC and
> huge beyond imagination!
>
> The Boston thing is plenty horrific. But not even close to being a
> trigger to start a possible nuclear conflict.>

Oh relax.... get a grip Jan..... seriously.

>
> Our message with the demise of OBL was enough of a message to tell
> those coward rat bastards that we can and will take their ass out and
> don't need a nuke to do it. Pakistan has "The Bomb" and we went after
> the coward with our Seals anyway. Now Pakistan knows they don't get to
> harbor the likes of the coward OBL. Yet they are NOT stupid enoigh to
> shoot a nuke.
>
> Get a Grip!>

Let go of your grip..... *if* its a terrorist group from the middle
east.... they need to be stopped once and for all.... stop being so
hysterical its really unbecoming of a grown man.

>
> BTW, there has been no arrest in this Boston case yet you fell for the
> Dumb Ass Media early hair trigger Hype of Clowns falling all over each
> other to be First. And for what reason?
>
> Get a grip!
>

Hey Jan, show me where I said they arrested someone please......

Hunter

[Lone Haranguer]

Hunter Hampton wrote:
> On 4/16/2013 9:43 AM, Bruce S wrote:
>> Pretend you are capable of a little basic honesty and explain
>> to us how
>> you believe that someone "protesting either abortion or gun
>> control...
>> or just hates the president... " is anything but a right winger.
>
> I think you are a right winger..... I think the person who did
> this makes you look like a left winger... Owen may be right, it
> might be an Obama supporter....
>
> I didn't specify a party on purpose, but you are correct it
> usually is right wing nut jobs who do things like blow up
> abortion clinics, and its skinheads who might be angry about
> Obama being president.... if its the gun control thing I know a
> lot of lefties who have guns...
>
> HUnter

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-majority-of-the-fbis-most-wanted-domestic-terrorists-are-women-2012-8?op=1

Also:

*Together, eco-terrorists and animal rights extremists are one of
the most serious domestic terrorism threats in the U.S. today…for
several good reasons:*

* The sheer volume of their crimes (over 2,000 since 1979);
* The huge economic impact (losses of more than $110 million
since 1979);
* The wide range of victims (from international corporations to
lumber companies to animal testing facilities to genetic
research firms); and
* Their increasingly violent rhetoric and tactics (one recent
communiqué sent to a California product testing company said:
“You might be able to protect your buildings, but can you
protect the homes of every employee?”).

*ELF and ALF are probably the names you’re most familiar with.

Also:
http://markhumphrys.com/left.right.violence.html#us.terror
***************

LZ



*

[Lone Haranguer]

Bruce S wrote:
> On 4/16/2013 9:43 PM, Hunter Hampton wrote:
>> On 4/16/2013 7:28 PM, Bruce S wrote:
>>>
>>> So if we are dealing with a politically bombing here, it is
>>> four times
>>> as likely that it was committed by a left winger as a right
>>> winger, and
>>> twice as likely that it was an Islamic radical. And since
>>> virtually
>>> every terrorist incident in this country since McVeigh were
>>> committed by
>>> Islamists that would be the safest bet of all.
>>
>>
>> http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/07/opinion/bergen-terrorism-wisconsin/index.html
>>
>>
>> Hunter
>
> Imagine that, data provided by a "Progressive" organization
> claims that conservatives are a threat to the country.
>

http://markhumphrys.com/left.right.violence.html#us.terror

The table shows which percentage of terrorist acts can be
attributed to which faction. Left-Wingers have the highest
percentage but some lefties don't consider eco-terrorism to be a
bad thing.

LZ

[Lone Haranguer]

At one point an arrest was confirmed but later denied.

LZ

[Lone Haranguer]

David "The Hamster" Malone wrote:

There isn't a big bang when you see white smoke at a Pope election.

LZ

[Lone Haranguer]

To Hunter, blowing up an empty abortion clinic is hundreds of
times worse than leftist eco-terrorists setting a ski lodge on fire.

LZ

[Hank]

Bruce and his ilk only believe in FOX news. It's like a religeon to them. No other news source can ever be right. If you go back and read only the responses by Bruce, you will find he is just fishing to start an argument. Not many are biting.

Hank

[Propwash]

Lone Haranguer wrote:
> The internet gives recipes for making black powder at home.  Not
> too difficult  either.
>
> LZ


I used to dampen a combination of sulfur, saltpeter (potassium
nitrate), and charcoal to fuel my experimental "rockets" when I was a
youngster! I'd spread it out and let it dry. Not sure what I had
when I was done, but it made a lot of smoke! [:0)

Paul

[George Anthony]

"Bruce S" <bruce...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:kkmnan$4ln$1...@dont-email.me...

Be careful there, Bruce, you might become a "plonkee"! Do you really want
your life ruined?

[MaxD]

On 4/17/2013 11:52 AM, Bruce S wrote:
> On 4/16/2013 12:09 PM, Hunter Hampton wrote:
>> On 4/16/2013 9:43 AM, Bruce S wrote:
>>> Pretend you are capable of a little basic honesty and explain to us how
>>> you believe that someone "protesting either abortion or gun control...
>>> or just hates the president... " is anything but a right winger.
>>
>> I think you are a right winger..... I think the person who did this
>> makes you look like a left winger... Owen may be right, it might be an
>> Obama supporter....
>>
>> I didn't specify a party on purpose, but you are correct it usually is
>> right wing nut jobs who do things like blow up abortion clinics, and its
>> skinheads who might be angry about Obama being president.... if its the
>> gun control thing I know a lot of lefties who have guns...
>>
>> HUnter
>
> There are so many logical inconsistencies in what you wrote that i am
> left believing that you are an incoherent, ranting, irrational,
> hysterical nitwit. Of course I could be wrong - you might simply be too
> simple minded to think.
>

Have you tried changing to a different brand of coffee?
sigh...

By the way, I've been meaning to ask you something I often wonder about.
Do LEOs take classes in "smart ass"? They seem so adept at sarcasm.

[Bruce S]

I think the only reason I was not plonked at the time of this post is
because she bought the new computer and hasn't completed her plonking
yet. I was plonked for years (and probably am again).

[Bruce S]

It's taught in the second week of the academy. ;-)

And how should I be expected to respond to a completely irrational post
like hers?

[nothermark]

As I recall he said black powder. That is what he was talking about.
It was not smokeless as is commonly used in modern cartridges. There
is a black powder substitute I do not know much about. All of it is
off the shelf for various shooting sports. Black powder is not hard
to make.

[Janet Wilder]

I've been using pressure cookers since I was 12 years old. Of course I
used them to make soup and stew, not bombs. I am amazed that they can be
used for lethal purposes. Then again my former MIL used to make meat
loaf in her pressure cooker and I'd call that a nefarious practice.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

[Mike Hendrix at dot]

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 10:42:50 -0700, Bruce S <bruce...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On 4/16/2013 9:43 PM, Hunter Hampton wrote:
>> On 4/16/2013 7:28 PM, Bruce S wrote:
>>>
>>> So if we are dealing with a politically bombing here, it is four times
>>> as likely that it was committed by a left winger as a right winger, and
>>> twice as likely that it was an Islamic radical. And since virtually
>>> every terrorist incident in this country since McVeigh were committed by
>>> Islamists that would be the safest bet of all.
>>
>>
>> http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/07/opinion/bergen-terrorism-wisconsin/index.html
>>
>> Hunter
>

>Imagine that, data provided by a "Progressive" organization claims that
>conservatives are a threat to the country.

---------------------

Bruce, it was a "Progressive" network.....but was the article not
accurate? Did they lie about any of the instances they provided?

I do not know........ I am just asking.

[MaxD]

Irrationally. Oh, come to think of it...you did.

[nothermark]

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 19:21:23 -0500, Janet Wilder
<kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I've been using pressure cookers since I was 12 years old. Of course I
>used them to make soup and stew, not bombs. I am amazed that they can be
>used for lethal purposes. Then again my former MIL used to make meat
>loaf in her pressure cooker and I'd call that a nefarious practice.

Any pressure vessel can be made into a bomb. Most will explode if
used incorrectly and the safety devices fail. Ever see a video of a
hot water tank going through a roof?

[Lone Haranguer]

Maybe you should learn to use Google?

LZ

[Bruce S]

The source cited by CNN as having provided the information is a
progressive organization (though they hide it well, claiming to be
non-partisan - you can only figure out their politics when you read the
various political issues they support).

As to the accuracy of their information, I have no idea, but without
access to their sources and raw numbers, I have no way to figure it out
either.

As the cite LZ pointed out, there are different ways of looking at the
data. So, when a white supremacist bombs a church, is that an act of
terrorism, or is it a hate crime, or is it simply arson. And if that
bombing is considered an act of terrorism why does the group gathering
the stats not consider it terrorism when a black panther bombs a white
senior center? Either they both are terrorism, or neither is. And to
date, the quality of information provided does not lend itself to
believability. That is one reason I limited my data to the 10 worst
bombings in US history - we know (for the most part) who did them and why.

[Bruce S]

A response in kind was appropriate. But, seriously, Hunter responds
with emotion to virtually every issue when reason would suggest that her
best response would be to shut up and wait. When I am faced with that
type of emotional bullshit, I can only give what I am getting.

[Bruce S]

I already responded to you, but had one more thought. Since the first
news of the bombing, I have not heard one conservative news-person or
pundit (not ONE, not TV, not radio, not press, not internet) speculate
that this bombing might have been done as part of a left wing
conspiracy. On the other hand, starting just a few minutes after the
bombing, liberal assholes (like Hunter) have been attempting to blame
conservatives. As far as I am concerned, every one of them is a total
scumbag and deserves to be treated accordingly.

[George Anthony]

"Bruce S" <bruce...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:kknjvj$5o0$1...@dont-email.me...

You've no doubt heard the old adage "'tis better to keep your mouth shut
and let people think you're stupid than to open it and prove them right". I
can't think of a person who personifies this more than the great "plonker"
herself.

[bill horne]

Janet Wilder wrote:
> I've been using pressure cookers since I was 12 years old. Of course I
> used them to make soup and stew, not bombs. I am amazed that they can
> be used for lethal purposes. Then again my former MIL used to make
> meat loaf in her pressure cooker and I'd call that a nefarious practice.

When I was a kid, my mother made a bomb (sort of) with a pressure
cooker and butterbeans. There were butterbeans on the ceiling. I don't
know how whole butterbeans survived the trip through that little
relief hole.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

[Hunter Hampton]

On 4/17/2013 7:11 PM, Bruce S wrote:
>
> I already responded to you, but had one more thought. Since the first
> news of the bombing, I have not heard one conservative news-person or
> pundit (not ONE, not TV, not radio, not press, not internet) speculate
> that this bombing might have been done as part of a left wing
> conspiracy. On the other hand, starting just a few minutes after the
> bombing, liberal assholes (like Hunter) have been attempting to blame
> conservatives. As far as I am concerned, every one of them is a total
> scumbag and deserves to be treated accordingly.
>
> --
> Bruce

As long as I've been on earth I've met a lot of assholes, but you Bruce
are absolutely the most unpleasant asshole that I've ever come across.


There is something mentally wrong with you..... seriously, you need to
get a physical and find out if there's a reason why you are such a
miserable a human being.

No need to reply, you're hitting the filter.....

Hunter

[jerryosage]

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 08:47:05 -0700, Lone Haranguer
<linu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Propwash wrote:
>> "K Miller" wrote:
>> > Obviously we need laws banning criminals from having pressure
>> cookers or at
>>> least make everyone get a background check before allowing them to buy a
>>> pressure cooker. Close the pressure cooker loopholes now!
>>
>> Today, Biden said no one needs a pressure cooker! You can get the
>> same results with a crock pot, and it's much safer operate.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>Biden is a moron. Pressure cookers were commonly used in home
>canning.
>
>LZ

We own four pressure cookers. a 30 quart All American, a 22 quart All
American, an old cast aluminum Presto that needs a new rubber seal and
safety plug, and a much newer pressed SS Presto that replaced it.
Also, we have a pressure chicken fryer which makes excellent fried
chicken without grease spattering everywhere.

The All Americans were/are used for canning and the smaller ones for
cooking.

Yes, Biden is a moron, but he is just one of many and that is damned
scary because they do have enough intelligence to find their way to
the polls and vote. Wasn't the stupidity of common voters the reason
that the Founding Fathers setup the Electorial College to elect the
President?

Pressure cookers may become the new AK-47s. I'm wondering if I need
to build an explosives magazine to store my pressure cookers in when
they are not in actual use.

Jerry O.

[Jan Orme]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hee Hee! Relax, Hunter. I didn't jab you that hard. Just sayin' that
we agree about the rat bastards but they ain't worth startin' a
holocaust.

One of my Adult Grandsons, Joel who makes up his own mind these days,
posted this on Facebook today:

"Question: If a bomb goes off and kills a child what do we blame, the
bomber, or the bomb? if someone decides to shoot up a school, do we
blame the gun or the shooter?"

He posted that after Obama, Reid, Feinstein, Biden and Company got
their ass/hat handed to them in the Senate today........ as well they
should.

In other news,, a Gallop Poll shows that only 4% of Americans are
concerned about gun possesion.

Jan

[Will Sill]

Rats. I thought _I_ had the honor of being "the most unpleasant asshole"
in what passes for your mind.

Before you plonk me again, there is something you ought to know:
Despite the fact that you are among the most illogical, bitter,
wrong-headed moral alleycats I've ever encountered, I want you to know
that you HAVE had a small influence in my life.

Long ago you identified one of your favorite TV shows. I'd never watched
it, but since that day EVERY time I see the program listed I easily
enjoy the temptation to even glance at the content. Sez I to myself: "If
Hunter likes it, it must be real garbage."

Enjoy.

Will

PS: I occasionally disagree with Bruce, but for the most part his
comments are logical, fact-based, and thought-provoking. I think he
spends too much energy trying to use logic and facts to influence morons
like yourself who are impervious to both. OTOH, your hissy fits are an
embarrassment to blondes everywhere.