OT Involuntary Servitude

[Janet Wilder]

Yesterday I returned for my second time at being called for Federal jury
duty. First time we filled out paperwork and got out early.

This time we had to report at 8AM. We were held to the third floor of
the Federal court house building until 4:30 PM. There was no break for
food. There was no food provided. There were restrooms and we could use
one of the court rooms and the hallway benches to sit. There was a
well-hung water fountain with yucky water. At 3 PM they brought cases of
bottled water at room temperature.

There were 108 of us and they chose 14 people and two alternates.

Evidently there was a reporter in the court room because I saw myself
quoted (though not named) in today's newspaper. The statement was given
in the courtroom with no outsiders (or so I thought)and no other jurors
present.

When we toured the Border Patrol facility several years ago we learned
that the people who were caught crossing our border illegally had to, by
law, be fed every four hours. We citizens, doing our civic duty, were
not afforded that courtesy.

This was my first time called to a panel for jury duty. In NJ I sat in
the basement of the court house twice, but never even made it to the
courtroom. Is this how federal juries are picked? Do they always starve
the panel?

I am certain that no one got sick or suffered more than an intense
headache (many of us had headaches from going 8.5 hours without a bite
to eat. I am so disappointed that our government could be so thoughtless.
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

[D-R]

Sounds similar to what I went through though, one of mine was in the
winter and we got to sit on COLD tile floors while we waited. And the
clerks seemed to be some of the most arrogant and uncaring people I have
had the pleasure to meet. They will have to come and get me if they
ever call me again!

--

AJ - up in the Arizona mountains

[Frank Howell]

It may be a waste of time, but may a call to a congressman or Senator might
help?

--
Frank Howell

[richard]

I'm not sure how I'd handle any kind of jury duty.
I have testified at a trial, but never been on a jury.
So far, I haven't even been called to duty.

Nice to know these things Janet.

[Janet Wilder]

I was composing a letter to my (brand new) congressman in the shower a
little while ago. I'll write.

[ozm...@gmail.com]

I am certain you meant WALL hung water fountain, but, the way you wrote it made for a much more interesting read.



Seriously, however, what do they do when you just get up and walk out to McDucks? Arrest you......at least a detention cell is better and there are vending machines in the hall.

My attitude (that has worked twice)is: "feed me or arrest me; I'm outa here".

[MR]

On Thu, 02 May 2013 10:44:08 -0400, Janet Wilder <kellie...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Last time I was called to jury duty was when Westly Snipes was going to
trial here in Ocala and hoped that I did not get on that one. Anyway, we
sat in a large room with around 300-400 folks waiting. Not sure, but
there were Fed. as well as local trials being filled with jurors. I sat
there from about 7:30am until about 7pm with a half hour break for lunch;
never got called. Accommodations were adequate and I was glad I had a
book to read.
MR

[Hunter Hampton]

On 5/2/2013 9:16 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>>
>
> I was composing a letter to my (brand new) congressman in the shower a
> little while ago. I'll write.

If ever a sentence needed a comma, its that one. <g>

Hunter

[Janet Wilder]

On 5/2/2013 11:28 AM, ozm...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am certain you meant WALL hung water fountain, but, the way you wrote it made for a much more interesting read.
>

Yikes! I'm famous for typos and misspellings, but that one is rather
Freudian. <g>

> Seriously, however, what do they do when you just get up and walk out to McDucks? Arrest you......at least a detention cell is better and there are vending machines in the hall.
>
> My attitude (that has worked twice)is: "feed me or arrest me; I'm outa here".
>

There is the issue of the very official looking summons and the very
official oath we had to take to be good little potential jurors.

I did walk around whispering "insurrection" but no one took me up on it. <g>

[Janet Wilder]

At least you got lunch and had the opportunity to being back a small
snack.

Had we been informed that we might not be able to get food for 8 1/2
hours, I think most of us would have packed a small lunch. Even a
container of yogurt would have helped. You won't believe the headaches
we had from not eating and for some of us caffeine withdrawal.

[Janet Wilder]

LOL!

I did email him a letter.

<<Dear Congressman Vela,

Let me begin my letter by stating that I am a believer in the American
jury system and the protection of the right of every citizen to a trial
by the jury of his or her peers. This right is what separates our
nation from others and makes it the greatest nation in the world.

Yesterday I was part of a jury panel at the Federal Courthouse for the
Southern District of Texas in Brownsville. It was the second day of a
two-day jury selection process. Though I am sixty-six years old, it was
my first experience with jury duty.

A few years ago I attended a presentation at the Border Patrol facility
in Harlingen where I learned that the undocumented individuals who had
been arrested for illegally crossing our border with Mexico were
required by law to be fed every four hours.

Yesterday, I reported before 8 AM to the Federal Courthouse as per the
summons. There were one-hundred and eight potential jurors on the panel.
We were forced to remain on the third floor of the court house during
the entire time the selection process unfolded with individual jurors
being called in to be questioned by the judge and the attorneys.

We jurors were kept on the third floor without food until we were
released at 4:30PM. There was a wall-hung water fountain with rather
unpalatable water and nothing more offered until approximately 3 PM when
bottles of tepid water were brought in. We were not offered any food,
nor were we offered the ability to order food that we could pay for
ourselves.

Congressman Vela, do you not think that it is unfair that a person who
broke our laws by crossing our borders illegally has the right to be fed
every four hours, yet decent American citizens, who are doing their
civic duty, are forced to go without food for eight and one half hours?

You are my representative to the Federal Government. I am asking you to
investigate this practice and to consider introducing some kind of
regulation regarding the treatment of potential jurors. Even if the
Government does not want to pay for their meals, potential jurors should
have the ability to order and pay for a sandwich without having to leave
the sequestered area.

Thank you so much for your time in considering this matter. I know how
busy you are and I appreciate your efforts.>>

[Hunter Hampton]

On 5/2/2013 9:55 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>
> Had we been informed that we might not be able to get food for 8 1/2
> hours, I think most of us would have packed a small lunch. Even a
> container of yogurt would have helped. You won't believe the headaches
> we had from not eating and for some of us caffeine withdrawal.

I would raise so much hell about that..... its ridiculous, doesn't even
sound legal...

Hunter

[bill horne]

Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 5/2/2013 11:28 AM, ozm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I am certain you meant WALL hung water fountain, but, the way you
>> wrote it made for a much more interesting read.
>>
>
> Yikes! I'm famous for typos and misspellings, but that one is rather
> Freudian. <g>
>
>> Seriously, however, what do they do when you just get up and walk
>> out to McDucks? Arrest you......at least a detention cell is better
>> and there are vending machines in the hall.
>>
>> My attitude (that has worked twice)is: "feed me or arrest me; I'm
>> outa here".
>>
>
> There is the issue of the very official looking summons and the very
> official oath we had to take to be good little potential jurors.
>
> I did walk around whispering "insurrection" but no one took me up on
> it. <g>

I've never been on a jury, but I've been summoned to voir dire a few
times. They always always asked some version of, "Do you have any
preconceived notions as to the guilt or innocence of the defendent?".
Each time, I had to restrain myself from answering, "Iffen he warnt
guilty, he wudden be on trial".

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

[bill horne]

They would have probably confiscated it along with your cellfone,
pocketknife, and gun. All sorts of mischief can be perpetrated with
yogurt.

[K Miller]

Janet Wilder wrote:
>
> Had we been informed that we might not be able to get food for 8 1/2
> hours, I think most of us would have packed a small lunch. Even a
> container of yogurt would have helped. You won't believe the headaches
> we had from not eating and for some of us caffeine withdrawal.

Did you ask the bailiff or some such about food during the wait?

[Kenn Smith]

Janet, if it was me I wouldn't be satisfied with writing my
congresscritter. Who is responsible for the conduct of federal courts
in your district? A federal DOJ attorney, be it called Federal District
Attorney, Federal Prosecutor or whatever, probably locaed in
Brownsville. Get on his or her case big time.

[Janet Wilder]

I wrote to the congressman. Whom else should I "raise hell" with?

[Janet Wilder]

Yes. Most of us did. We were told that we were not permitted to leave
the third floor. Even when we asked when we'd be released, the answer
was: "when they are done"

I'm claustrophobic and being locked up was not a happy experience.

[Janet Wilder]

He was at the voir dire! This is a high-profile trial hereabouts. The
Federal Prosecutor head guy was at the prosecutor's table as was another
Fed attorney, an investigator and two FBI fellows.

[nothermark]

On Thu, 02 May 2013 09:44:08 -0500, Janet Wilder

Did local (county) duty last summer before my second hip was operated
on. Had to call the telephone number every evening for a week to see
if they wanted me the next day. Sounds like there is a better way to
do it...

[Hunter Hampton]

What Kenn said....

HUnter

[MaxD]

On 5/2/2013 10:16 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:

>
> I was composing a letter to my (brand new) congressman in the shower a
> little while ago. I'll write.
>

Your congressman was in the shower???

[MaxD]

You should send a copy of that to:
http://www.house.state.tx.us/members/member-page/?district=37

[bill horne]

Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 5/2/2013 12:10 PM, Hunter Hampton wrote:
>> On 5/2/2013 9:55 AM, Janet Wilder wrote:
>>>
>>> Had we been informed that we might not be able to get food for 8 1/2
>>> hours, I think most of us would have packed a small lunch. Even a
>>> container of yogurt would have helped. You won't believe the headaches
>>> we had from not eating and for some of us caffeine withdrawal.
>>
>> I would raise so much hell about that..... its ridiculous, doesn't even
>> sound legal...
>>
>> Hunter
>>
>>
>
> I wrote to the congressman. Whom else should I "raise hell" with?

Somewhere in the courthouse is a person or persons responsible for the
stuff necessary to maintain the prospective jurors during the
selection process. Find them. If you don't get any satisfaction there,
find their boss. If necessary, keep marching steadfastly up the chain.

[bill horne]

Janet Wilder wrote:
> On 5/2/2013 12:39 PM, K Miller wrote:
>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>>
>>> Had we been informed that we might not be able to get food for 8 1/2
>>> hours, I think most of us would have packed a small lunch. Even a
>>> container of yogurt would have helped. You won't believe the headaches
>>> we had from not eating and for some of us caffeine withdrawal.
>>
>> Did you ask the bailiff or some such about food during the wait?
>>
>>
> Yes. Most of us did. We were told that we were not permitted to
> leave the third floor. Even when we asked when we'd be released, the
> answer was: "when they are done"
>
> I'm claustrophobic and being locked up was not a happy experience.

How do you manage cruises? Do you set up a canopy and cot on deck?

[MR]

On Thu, 02 May 2013 12:55:58 -0400, Janet Wilder <kellie...@yahoo.com>

Sounds like you had the guards from Gitmo handling your group. No, come
to think about it, prisoners there have it better. You may have a case
for unlawful detainment.<g>
MR

[Ron]

"Kenn Smith" wrote in message
news:21986-518...@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net...

++++++
Anyone from DOJ wouldn't be responsible. The courts are the third branch of
government and the judges are appointed for life. They don't work for the
administration or congress and I believe the only ones that can remove them
is another judge or group of judges.
Ron
++++++

[Lone Haranguer]

Naw. Then she would have said "dictating" instead of composing.

LZ

[Lone Haranguer]

Send a copy of your letter to the Congressman to the local newspaper.

That will be certain to light someone's fuse.

LZ

[Janet Wilder]

I will try.

[Janet Wilder]

Olivera isn't my state rep. What good would it do telling the state reps?

[Janet Wilder]

I manage cruises very well. Most of the time we have a balcony cabin. A
few times we've had an ocean view cabin with a big window. No one locks
me into my cabin.

The cruise ships are large with many venues and they do put into ports
where I get off the ship and do excursions to see the sights. The
longest I was at sea was a 15 day cruise to and from Hawaii sailing from
San Francisco. There were a lot of sea days, but there was so much to do
that I hardly minded. Also, I upgraded for free from a regular balcony
cabin to a "sky suite" which isn't really a suite, but a huge cabin with
an amazing bathroom and a balcony that was bigger than the cabin I
traded it for. One of my best deals yet.

[Hank]

On Thursday, May 2, 2013 3:30:45 PM UTC-4, Lone Haranguer wrote:

>
> Send a copy of your letter to the Congressman to the local newspaper.
>
>
>
> That will be certain to light someone's fuse.
>
>
>
> LZ

Ding-ding-ding, buzz, buzz ,buzz... We have a winner! I agree. You WILL get results if the paper (letter to the editor) publishes it.

Been there, done that. The state auditor called me personally to apologize to for a mistake on the local tax form (the state handles the local taxes) that was downloadable from their website. One line should've been subtracted, but the form said to add. After seven months of telling the person on the phone, I wrote a letter to the editor. Whammy! It got changed fast.

Hank

[MaxD]

I thought you were in his district. :-(

State reps can do more about jury duty in Texas than the feds can.

[Ralph E Lindberg]

In article <5182ab79$0$1803$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,

Janet Wilder <kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote:


> Yes. Most of us did. We were told that we were not permitted to leave
> the third floor. Even when we asked when we'd be released, the answer
> was: "when they are done"
>

Simple, walk up and tell the Bailiff "I'm diabetic, are you going to
let me go eat and take care of my blood sugar, or are you going to call
the Medics when I pass out?"

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[Lone Haranguer]

The power of the pen. When I was getting screwed by the county
assessor, I couldn't get him to admit a mistake was made. Even
the county surveyor agreed with my view. A letter to the editor
caused a rumpus at the county courthouse and I got on the agenda
for the monthly County Commissioner's meeting. Just as my turn
came up, the assessor stopped me in the doorway, apologized and
said a correction was being made.

It was too late for him. He was forced to resign.
LZ

[bill horne]

How did you manage that? Throw a claustrofit?

[Frank Howell]

Frank Howell wrote:

> It may be a waste of time, but may a call to a congressman or Senator
> might help?

By the way, in January of 2006, I helped convict Wally Roker for check
forgery, while on Federal jury duty in Los Angeles.

--
Frank Howell

[Frank Howell]

MR wrote:
> On Thu, 02 May 2013 10:44:08 -0400, Janet Wilder

> Last time I was called to jury duty was when Westly Snipes was going
> to trial here in Ocala and hoped that I did not get on that one. Anyway,
> we sat in a large room with around 300-400 folks waiting. Not sure, but
> there were Fed. as well as local trials being filled
> with jurors. I sat there from about 7:30am until about 7pm with a
> half hour break for lunch; never got called. Accommodations were
> adequate and I was glad I had a book to read.
> MR

I heard the Westly just go out of jail recently.

--
Frank Howell

[Frank Howell]

Well how else is she going to clean up congress?

--
Frank Howell

[Janet Wilder]

On 5/2/2013 6:05 PM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
> In article <5182ab79$0$1803$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,
> Janet Wilder <kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Yes. Most of us did. We were told that we were not permitted to leave
>> the third floor. Even when we asked when we'd be released, the answer
>> was: "when they are done"
>>
> Simple, walk up and tell the Bailiff "I'm diabetic, are you going to
> let me go eat and take care of my blood sugar, or are you going to call
> the Medics when I pass out?"
>

I thought about that, but the judge had asked all of us earlier if we
had any medical condition that prevented us from serving. I know anyone
on insulin would have been in a world of hurt.

[Janet Wilder]

I'm represented by the Eddie Lucios. II and III a/k/a dos and tres.
Dos is the state senator and Tres is the state rep. Neither of them
have ever responded to any correspondence from me.

[Janet Wilder]

They had a sale on the unsold sky suites that was the same price as my
regular balcony cabin. I called up and said I'd like to have one of the
sky suites. They gave it to me. I think that, technically, the sale
was for new bookings only, but I didn't correct them <g>. Had to pay
higher daily gratuities (read that service charge) for the butler. He
was about as useful as tits on a bull. We are not the kind of people who
want or need a butler at our beck and call.

The cabin was fantastic with a huge marble clad bathroom, a big-ass
soaking tub with jets and daily fresh flowers along with fresh fruit and
cheese every afternoon brought by the butler.

When I'm not being butled, I just order the fruit and cheese from room
service.

The cruise line had a Hawaiian Ambassador on board who taught hula
lessons. She also brought two fellows who taught ukelele. We had a
graduation for the hula dancers and ukelele players. We were hanging
around with two other couples and the three gals took hula lessons and
one of the guys (not mine) did the ukelele lessons. We had a graduation
party on the giant balcony after our recital. Everyone brought something
to drink and we had fruit and cheese delivered. There was one of those
speaker thingies for an iPod in the cabin so we put my little Nano on it
and had music.

Great fun and we are still very close with one of the couples we met on
that cruise and in touch with the other.

[Janet Wilder]

I just got a notice that they guy I helped put away a couple of years
ago for identity theft will be out of Federal prison next year. I'm
surprised they still have my email address.

[Ralph E Lindberg]

In article <5182ffc2$0$15294$c3e8da3$9f40...@news.astraweb.com>,

Janet Wilder <kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 5/2/2013 6:05 PM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
> > In article <5182ab79$0$1803$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,
> > Janet Wilder <kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Yes. Most of us did. We were told that we were not permitted to leave
> >> the third floor. Even when we asked when we'd be released, the answer
> >> was: "when they are done"
> >>
> > Simple, walk up and tell the Bailiff "I'm diabetic, are you going to
> > let me go eat and take care of my blood sugar, or are you going to call
> > the Medics when I pass out?"
> >
>
> I thought about that, but the judge had asked all of us earlier if we
> had any medical condition that prevented us from serving. I know anyone
> on insulin would have been in a world of hurt.

You don't have to be on insulin to be a diabetic. You don't even have to
be on medicine. Ellen managers hers with diet alone (and her doctor and
diabetic specialist are impressed). But it imposes strict eating rules.

[Hank]

On Thursday, May 2, 2013 8:14:33 PM UTC-4, Janet wrote:

>
> > State reps can do more about jury duty in Texas than the feds can.
>
>
>
> I'm represented by the Eddie Lucios. II and III a/k/a dos and tres.
>
> Dos is the state senator and Tres is the state rep. Neither of them
>
> have ever responded to any correspondence from me.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Janet Wilder

Do you write them alot? Why not just go see them?

Hank <~~~ never wrote to a senator or rep.

[Hank]

On Thursday, May 2, 2013 11:28:30 PM UTC-4, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:

>
> You don't have to be on insulin to be a diabetic. You don't even have to
>
> be on medicine. Ellen managers hers with diet alone (and her doctor and
>
> diabetic specialist are impressed). But it imposes strict eating rules.
>
>
>

Kudos to Ellen. That IS impressive. My sister was diagnosed as a diabetic. A couple years later another doctor told her she wasn't. I am also a diabetic, but I like to eat. I am not over weight, so meds and exercise are about all I can do without giving up the finer things in life. :-)

Hank

[Will Sill]

I think we should organize a pity party for Janet.

Will

[Janet Wilder]

They are only visible when pandering for votes. Also they keep moving
their local offices. Probably when the rent is due.

Politics here are pretty much what I was used to growing up in New
Jersey. Nuff said.

[Janet Wilder]

On 5/2/2013 10:28 PM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
> In article <5182ffc2$0$15294$c3e8da3$9f40...@news.astraweb.com>,
> Janet Wilder <kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/2/2013 6:05 PM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
>>> In article <5182ab79$0$1803$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,
>>> Janet Wilder <kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes. Most of us did. We were told that we were not permitted to leave
>>>> the third floor. Even when we asked when we'd be released, the answer
>>>> was: "when they are done"
>>>>
>>> Simple, walk up and tell the Bailiff "I'm diabetic, are you going to
>>> let me go eat and take care of my blood sugar, or are you going to call
>>> the Medics when I pass out?"
>>>
>>
>> I thought about that, but the judge had asked all of us earlier if we
>> had any medical condition that prevented us from serving. I know anyone
>> on insulin would have been in a world of hurt.
>
> You don't have to be on insulin to be a diabetic. You don't even have to
> be on medicine. Ellen managers hers with diet alone (and her doctor and
> diabetic specialist are impressed). But it imposes strict eating rules.
>

That is true and many people do that by avoiding carbohydrates as much
as possible. The necessity to eat at specific times is more important
to insulin users as they can develop BG lows that are quite dangerous.

Without being told that one will be without food for 8 1/2 hours, there
is no way an insulin user can compensate after being locked up. I
suppose if they had passed out, some assistance would have been rendered.

As for claiming diabetes, we were under oath so I would not have
considered lying.

[FMB]

"Janet Wilder" <kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Janet,

Maybe when asked by the Judge if you can render an impartial decision you
could honestly tell him "No, not if you are going to starve us like you're
doing to the 100+ folks that have been waiting here all day, locked up
without any source of food and only warm water to drink." I'm guessing he
ate.
--


FMB
(55 7 22 20)

[bill horne]

You gonna provide food and water?

[Janet Wilder]

We were asked those questions by the judge in the morning. No one, at
any time, advised us that we'd be locked up all day.

Had the instructions told us to bring a small lunch with us just in
case, I think no one would have minded. We were all being good citizens.
It was the the 8 1/2 hour detention without being warned of the
possibility that we objected to.

I spoke to a friend today who had done Federal jury duty in the same
court. They were permitted to leave the floor to go to vending machines
on a lower floor. They were only held until 2 PM then allowed out for
lunch.

Another friend's husband is a Federal attorney and she's going to
mention something to him. Her son works for the Congresman so she is
going to have him make sure the Congressman gets my email. This is my
Pilates class network <g>.

[Janet Wilder]

On 5/3/2013 7:42 AM, Will Sill wrote:

> I think we should organize a pity party for Janet.
>

If I lived anywhere near you, I could get a restraining order against
you just based on your posts.

Get some psychiatric help.

[Janet Wilder]

On 5/3/2013 11:58 AM, bill horne wrote:

>> I think we should organize a pity party for Janet.
>
> You gonna provide food and water?
>

LOL!

[Will Sill]

BYOB and a dish to pass.

Will

[K Miller]

Ahhhh.... Charitable Christians - where would we be without 'em?

[Mike Hendrix at dot]

On Thu, 2 May 2013 12:43:37 -0500, grizzl...@webtv.net (Kenn Smith)
wrote:

>Janet, if it was me I wouldn't be satisfied with writing my
>congresscritter. Who is responsible for the conduct of federal courts
>in your district? A federal DOJ attorney, be it called Federal District
>Attorney, Federal Prosecutor or whatever, probably locaed in
>Brownsville. Get on his or her case big time.
-------------------------------------
Ken, most of the "crap" in Federal Courts are caused by FEDERAL
JUDGES.

I know a now retired or semi-retired Federal Judge here in Pensacola.
He is the Federal Judge that Florida used when they objected to Obama
Care. Of course he found that Obama Care was illegal.

In any event, talk about arrogant!

ALL, of my bad experiences with FEDERAL jury duty were the result of
instructions from the FEDERAL Judge to those working the system.

And YES to those who will ask, I have discussed this with the Judge
himself. He pretty well knows what I think.

mike
--

Pensacola, FL
http://www.travellogs.us/

[Janet Wilder]

Talked to my friend whose son works for the congressman. They advised I
write to the chief Federal judge for the Southern Texas District who is
unnamed and somewhere in Brownsville. I'll find him and I'll contact him.

[NotMe]

"Janet Wilder" <kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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Long time back we had a somewhat similar situation in Louisiana. No food
breaks for jurors. In the end one juror went into a diabetic incident. The
EMS were called and the jurio transported. Caused all sorts of problems and
the program was changes shortly there after.

Perhaps you might mention that eventuality to the folk in Brownsville.
Discounting the medical problems there may be issues under the ADA?

[Janet Wilder]

True. The judge only asked us if there were any medical reasons we
could not be on the jury. He never asked us if we would be able to go
without food for 8.5 hours.

[NotMe]

"Janet Wilder" <kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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Being a diabetic is not a reason for exclusion. Lack of eating while a
diabetic can result in some serious complications including death.