Does it really matter anymore?

[Hank]

Does anything matter anymore? Heard that Hostess Twinkies are going to be unavailable in the future. How will I get my quick sugar fix while driving my RV?

Hank

[mikeyhsd]

try reeses peanut butter candy.

 

"Hank" <nineb...@aol.com> wrote in message news:9d12f066-36e5-4ee5...@googlegroups.com...

[ozm...@gmail.com]

On Friday, November 16, 2012 5:01:39 PM UTC-6, Hank wrote:
> Does anything matter anymore? Heard that Hostess Twinkies are going to be unavailable in the future. How will I get my quick sugar fix while driving my RV?
>
>
>
> Hank

Don't sweat it.........


Someone will buy the name and we will have "acme" Twinkies.

oz, who can't stand Twinkies, but to whom Ding-Dongs are the staff of life.

[Ralph E Lindberg]

In article <28cbc238-4eb3-438b...@googlegroups.com>,

Someone will buy the brands. The issue came about because people are
buying less of that stuff then they used to, declining sales and a less
then nimble management.

Noticed what is happening to McDonalds sales since they started posting
the calorie count of their selections? A couple weeks ago we stopped at
Jack-in-the-Box for the first time in a long time(this year?), they had
done the same thing, so SWMBO didn't order what she "wanted", the
calories scared her, she ordered something smaller and lower in calories

--
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This posting address is a spam-trap and seldom read
RV and Camping FAQ can be found at
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[nothermark]

On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:01:39 -0800 (PST), Hank <nineb...@aol.com>
wrote:

>Does anything matter anymore? Heard that Hostess Twinkies are going to be unavailable in the future. How will I get my quick sugar fix while driving my RV?
>
>Hank

coke float - sugar fat and caffeine ;-)

[Mike Hendrix at dot]

On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:16:43 -0800, Ralph E Lindberg
<n7...@callsign.net> wrote:

>In article <28cbc238-4eb3-438b...@googlegroups.com>,
> ozm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Friday, November 16, 2012 5:01:39 PM UTC-6, Hank wrote:
>> > Does anything matter anymore? Heard that Hostess Twinkies are going to be
>> > unavailable in the future. How will I get my quick sugar fix while driving
>> > my RV?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hank
>>
>> Don't sweat it.........
>>
>>
>> Someone will buy the name and we will have "acme" Twinkies.
>>
>> oz, who can't stand Twinkies, but to whom Ding-Dongs are the staff of life.
>
>Someone will buy the brands. The issue came about because people are
>buying less of that stuff then they used to, declining sales and a less
>then nimble management.

Part of the reason was declining sales but the other half of the
equation was the union that struck. Just like the Air Traffic
Controllers these union members taught the owners something!!!!!!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2012/11/16/hostess-twinkies-ding-dongs-wonder-bread-going-out-of-business/1708409/

"The company, which had been in and out of bankruptcy restructuring,
was already struggling from a high cost structure and sluggish
consumer demand for its products. Its fate was sealed by a confluence
of negative events including rising commodity costs and competitive
pressures, says Erin Lash, analyst at Morningstar.

The company had warned it would file a motion in U.S. Bankruptcy Court
to shut operations if enough workers didn't end a weeklong strike by 5
p.m. ET Thursday. On Friday, it followed through on that threat."

mike
--


Pensacola, FL
http://www.travellogs.us/

[MaxD]

On 11/16/2012 4:01 PM, Hank wrote:
> Does anything matter anymore? Heard that Hostess Twinkies are going to be unavailable in the future. How will I get my quick sugar fix while driving my RV?
>
> Hank
>

Fudge!

[MaxD]

Fudge! Rocky Mountain!

[MaxD]

Cappuccino.

[nothermark]

But will anybody pick up Wonder Bread with red yellow and blue ballons
on the wrapper? The original styroloaf we got our PG&J sandwiches on.
;-)

[bill horne]

Nibbling Cheezits and sipping Mountain Dew will keep me going
indefinitely.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

[MaxD]

'C' rations worked for me for longer than I would have hoped.

[MaxD]

PG&J?

[Janet Wilder]

On 11/16/2012 6:16 PM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
> In article <28cbc238-4eb3-438b...@googlegroups.com>,
> ozm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Friday, November 16, 2012 5:01:39 PM UTC-6, Hank wrote:
>>> Does anything matter anymore? Heard that Hostess Twinkies are going to be
>>> unavailable in the future. How will I get my quick sugar fix while driving
>>> my RV?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hank
>>
>> Don't sweat it.........
>>
>>
>> Someone will buy the name and we will have "acme" Twinkies.
>>
>> oz, who can't stand Twinkies, but to whom Ding-Dongs are the staff of life.
>
> Someone will buy the brands. The issue came about because people are
> buying less of that stuff then they used to, declining sales and a less
> then nimble management.
>
> Noticed what is happening to McDonalds sales since they started posting
> the calorie count of their selections? A couple weeks ago we stopped at
> Jack-in-the-Box for the first time in a long time(this year?), they had
> done the same thing, so SWMBO didn't order what she "wanted", the
> calories scared her, she ordered something smaller and lower in calories
>

I have an app on my phone that gives me the nutrition info for most
meals at most chain restaurants. I look stuff for carbohydrate content
for Barry who is diabetic and has to know how many carbs he's ingesting
to have his pump give him a proper bolus. It is scary.

We had broccoli cheese soup at Quiznos yesterday. It was very tasty and
filling and not nutritionally frightening.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

[Janet Wilder]

On 11/16/2012 5:01 PM, Hank wrote:
> Does anything matter anymore? Heard that Hostess Twinkies are going to be unavailable in the future. How will I get my quick sugar fix while driving my RV?
>
> Hank
>

I ate so many when I was expecting my first that my then husband wanted
to name the baby "Twinkie"

That baby will be 42 next week and that's about how long ago I ate a
Twinkie.

[Janet Wilder]

I think he meant PB&J.

[nothermark]

Damn spell checker did not catch it. PB&J. Good old Peanut Butter
(Peter Pan was our standby) and Jelly (Welch's grape).

[MaxD]

Jif with Peach preserves from:

https://www.bobmccutcheon.com/newmccutcheons/indexmain.htm

[JerryD(upstateNY)]

"MaxD" wrote in message Good old Peanut Butter

(Peter Pan was our standby) and Jelly (Welch's grape).

I have always used Peter Pan PB.
One day I was somewhere where they had both Peter Pan and Jif.
I did a side by side taste test and liked the Jif much better.
--
JerryD(upstateNY)

[MaxD]

Jerry, I think that was Mark who preferred Peter Pan PB.
My choice is Jif with preserves from McCutcheon's

https://www.bobmccutcheon.com/newmccutcheons/indexmain.htm

My favorite is Cherry, followed closely by Peach, Black Raspberry, and
Orange Marmalade. we usually order a Half dozen jars at a time.
At Christmas time we order extras to give as gifts.

[Hank]

On Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:28:28 PM UTC-5, MaxD wrote:

> My choice is Jif with preserves from McCutcheon's
>
>
>
> https://www.bobmccutcheon.com/newmccutcheons/indexmain.htm
>
>
>
> My favorite is Cherry, followed closely by Peach, Black Raspberry, and
>
> Orange Marmalade. we usually order a Half dozen jars at a time.
>
> At Christmas time we order extras to give as gifts.

Peanut butter, and either mayo or sweet pickle added is the best. :-)

Hank

[bill horne]

I've never been much of a PB&J snarfer - I prefer PB&M&B's.

[nothermark]

There is a difference between "prefers" and "grew up on"! ;-)

[ozm...@gmail.com]

I have learned that cherry preserves are best used by holding them in the mouth while sipping lightly peppered vodka.

Blackberry works well, also.

YMMV

[MaxD]

Gack!!

[Tom J]

When I was growing up we grew peanuts and had large fig bushes. My grandma
made peanut butter and made fig preserves. My mother did the same thing, and
when I set up house keeping I did the same thing, except I went to south
Georgia to get the peanuts & figs my relatives gladly gave me. I was making
crunchy peanut butter way before you could buy it in the stores!! I still
have peanuts in the freezer to make crunchy peanut butter and have several
cases of fig preserves and fig syrup!! BTW, that fig syrup is good on
pancakes or hoecakes'!! Some in this group have had my fig syrup on
pancakes!!

Tom J

[MaxD]

I have finally reached a point in my financial status where I can eat
not what I grew up on (dandelion greens, wild elderberry jelly, rhubarb,
pilfered apples and day [or more] old bread) but what I *prefer* which
excludes all those I grew up on except the pilfered apples.
I'm glad I can afford Sun Crisp and Honey Crisp apples, two of my favorites.

[bill horne]

Tom J wrote:
> bill horne wrote:
>> Hank wrote:
>>> On Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:28:28 PM UTC-5, MaxD wrote:
>>>
>>>> My choice is Jif with preserves from McCutcheon's
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bobmccutcheon.com/newmccutcheons/indexmain.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My favorite is Cherry, followed closely by Peach, Black Raspberry,
>>>> and Orange Marmalade. we usually order a Half dozen jars at a time.
>>>>
>>>> At Christmas time we order extras to give as gifts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Peanut butter, and either mayo or sweet pickle added is the best. :-)
>>
>> I've never been much of a PB&J snarfer - I prefer PB&M&B's.
>
> When I was growing up we grew peanuts and had large fig bushes. My grandma
> made peanut butter and made fig preserves. My mother did the same thing, and
> when I set up house keeping I did the same thing, except I went to south

> Georgia to get the peanuts& figs my relatives gladly gave me. I was making

> crunchy peanut butter way before you could buy it in the stores!! I still
> have peanuts in the freezer to make crunchy peanut butter and have several
> cases of fig preserves and fig syrup!! BTW, that fig syrup is good on
> pancakes or hoecakes'!! Some in this group have had my fig syrup on
> pancakes!!

We've got a fig tree, and I use it as a snack station when I'm
fiddling around outside.

[MaxD]

Hmmm. Sounds like an interesting combo but my preferred adult beverage
menu consists mostly of wine. Especially St. Clair Malvasia Bianca.

[ozm...@gmail.com]

My two favorites are:

1. Whatever you're buying.

2. Whatever's on sale.

3. (seriously) https://missouriwine.3dcartstores.com/Riverboat-Red_p_9.html

[MaxD]

Looks good to me. I like *sweet* wines.
We'll be heading across I-40 next May.
Will plan on trying that stuff.

[Frank Howell]

But not long enough to use them all up, as ten years later us troops in
Vietnam got the left overs. But that was better then Vietnam mud village
cuisine of boiled water buffalo.

--
Frank Howell

[gregz]

Been buying Jif. I know a place that sells mccutcheon products. Whatever it
is, they Make good stuff. Great hot sauce, spaghetti sauce, etc.

Greg

[Owen McKenzie]

On 11/17/2012 7:35 PM, MaxD wrote:
>
> Looks good to me. I like *sweet* wines.
> We'll be heading across I-40 next May.
> Will plan on trying that stuff.

How far across? If it's as far as Knoxville, we can probably arrange a
get together with us & Cliff & Marie.

--

Owen McKenzie
Posting from Largo, FL


"Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying
to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly
succeed, and are right."
-- H. L. Mencken

[MaxD]

On 11/17/2012 6:41 PM, Owen McKenzie wrote:
> On 11/17/2012 7:35 PM, MaxD wrote:
>>
>> Looks good to me. I like *sweet* wines.
>> We'll be heading across I-40 next May.
>> Will plan on trying that stuff.
>
> How far across? If it's as far as Knoxville, we can probably arrange a
> get together with us & Cliff & Marie.
>

Pshaw! Meant to say I-70 (going to Michigan) but that doesn't mean we
can't take a side trip. Tennessee is a purty state too.

[ozm...@gmail.com]

MO has some nice wineries (including the one mentioned) along the river, which closely parallels I-70.

[MaxD]

A couple years ago we enjoyed a tour of the wineries on Old Mission
peninsula on Grand Traverse Bay, MI.
I think we would enjoy visiting the wineries you mentioned.
Thanks for the tip.

[nothermark]

If you want wineries, breweries, meaderies, and distilleries check out
the NY Fingerlakes. ;-)

[Ron]

"Tom J" wrote in message
news:gcOdneXXePc7kDXN...@earthlink.com...

++++
Tom,
Fresh fig pizza is great also! We have a friend who makes pizza (he has a
double pizza oven, floor stand mixer and a machine that takes a lump of
dough and makes a large pizza crust out of it) and he served us a fresh fig
pizza that was really good!
Ron
++++

[MaxD]

BTDT. Beautiful area.

[Janet Wilder]

On 11/17/2012 11:30 PM, ozm...@gmail.com wrote:

> MO has some nice wineries (including the one mentioned) along the river, which closely parallels I-70.
>

We once stopped at a winery in MO on a ridge overlooking the
Mississippi. We tasted some wine and talked to the owner. He asked us
what we were doing the next day and we told him we were just hanging in
the area (Cape Girardaux. Then he asked us if we wanted to harvest grapes.

We came back the next day and worked with other locals harvesting
grapes. We got a nice lunch and cold soda and $36 each cash, no social
security numbers. We bought some wine of the variety we'd harvested with
part of the money and I made Barry take me out for supper as I was not
going to cook for I had labored in the vineyards all day.

We had some truly amazing adventures and experiences when we full timed.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

[Janet Wilder]

Trust me, you will. Don't forget the big Herman winery right off the
Interstate in MO. It's not too far from the place that sells the walnut
bowls.

There are wineries in more states than one would think. Do some Googling.

[Janet Wilder]

On 11/18/2012 8:30 AM, nothermark wrote:

> If you want wineries, breweries, meaderies, and distilleries check out
> the NY Fingerlakes. ;-)
>

I still have my "uncork New York" glass from tastings along the Finger
Lakes. :-)

[Hank]

Why am i reading posts from a bunch of wino's? LOL

Hank

[MaxD]

Winos? Oenophiles.

[Hank]

On Monday, November 19, 2012 10:17:14 AM UTC-5, MaxD wrote:

>
> > Why am i reading posts from a bunch of wino's? LOL
>
> >
>
> > Hank
>
> >
>
>
>
> Winos? Oenophiles.

I'm sorry I wasn't being politically correct. So, am I correct in assuming that an Oenophile is a wannbe Wino?

Hank

[bill horne]

An oenophile is a pretentious wino who pontificates about the merits
of a 2011 Thunderbird vs a 2012 Ripple. Or if he's not homeless, it'll
be about a 2008 jug wine vs a 2009 box wine.

Then there are the geographic oenophiles - wherever the wino lives,
the wine from somewhere else is always better. And the farther away,
the better.

And we can't forget the monetary oenophiles - the more the wino pays
for it, the better it is.

[nothermark]

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:45:33 -0800 (PST), Hank <nineb...@aol.com>
wrote:

connoisseur vs common sewer

;-)

[Janet Wilder]

We used to joke that Valentine, our MDT, had WPS; "wine positioning
satellite" as every time we passed one of those highway winery signs
with the cluster of grapes, the truck turned towards it.

[Janet Wilder]

When I taste wine, I usually put most of the sample in the dump bucket.

Wine tasting and wine drinking are different sports

[Janet Wilder]

There are also people who like a nice glass of wine with dinner.

For the record, I have tasted wine all over the world and have never
found any correlation between the price of a bottle of wine and the taste.

[bill horne]

My Nerdafari also has a WPS - but the W stands for Walmart. Practice,
however, has allowed me to override it - about half the time, I can
jerk it back onto the Interstate before I get too far down the off ramp.

[jackson...@gmail.com]

> I have always used Peter Pan PB.
>
> One day I was somewhere where they had both Peter Pan and Jif.
>
> I did a side by side taste test and liked the Jif much better.
>

> --
>
> JerryD(upstateNY)

Jerry

Nobody really gives a crap what you think

Jack

[MaxD]

No. It's one who just pretends.

[Don Lampson]

On Nov 17, 2:27 pm, bill horne <redy...@rye.net> wrote:

> Tom J wrote:
> > bill horne wrote:
> >> Hank wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:28:28 PM UTC-5, MaxD wrote:
>
> >>>> My choice is Jif with preserves from McCutcheon's
>
> >>>>https://www.bobmccutcheon.com/newmccutcheons/indexmain.htm
>
> >>>> My favorite is Cherry, followed closely by Peach, Black Raspberry,
> >>>> and Orange Marmalade. we usually order a Half dozen jars at a time.
>
> >>>> At Christmas time we order extras to give as gifts.
>
> >>> Peanut butter, and either mayo or sweet pickle added is the best. :-)
>
> >> I've never been much of a PB&J snarfer - I prefer PB&M&B's.
>
> > When I was growing up we grew peanuts and had large fig bushes. My grandma
> > made peanut butter and made fig preserves. My mother did the same thing, and
> > when I set up house keeping I did the same thing, except I went to south

> > Georgia to get the peanuts&  figs my relatives gladly gave me.  I was making

> > crunchy peanut butter way before you could buy it in the stores!!  I still
> > have peanuts in the freezer to make crunchy peanut butter and have several
> > cases of fig preserves and fig syrup!!  BTW, that fig syrup is good on
> > pancakes or hoecakes'!! Some in this group have had my fig syrup on
> > pancakes!!
>

> We've got a fig tree, and I use it as a snack station when I'm
> fiddling around outside.

>
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

I have an issue with figs. They trigger a terrible repressed memory
from my past into the present.

As a kid, I used my parents Kadota fig tree as a snack station too!
One time while doing so, I noticed the fig had more seeds than
usual? Looking down, at half of the fig in my hand, I discovered to
my horror, that it was crawling with ants! Yowza! I just hate
reliving that godawful nightmare! HawHawHaw!

Sigmund Freud

[bill horne]

As long as they weren't fireants, they were probably good for you.

[NotMe]

"Mike Hendrix" <mike (at) travellogs (dot) us> wrote in message
news:ajpda8t4k3e4q4r16...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:16:43 -0800, Ralph E Lindberg
> <n7...@callsign.net> wrote:
>
>>In article <28cbc238-4eb3-438b...@googlegroups.com>,
>> ozm...@gmail.com wrote:

>>
>>> On Friday, November 16, 2012 5:01:39 PM UTC-6, Hank wrote:
>>> > Does anything matter anymore? Heard that Hostess Twinkies are going to
>>> > be
>>> > unavailable in the future. How will I get my quick sugar fix while
>>> > driving
>>> > my RV?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hank
>>>

>>> Don't sweat it.........
>>>
>>>
>>> Someone will buy the name and we will have "acme" Twinkies.
>>>
>>> oz, who can't stand Twinkies, but to whom Ding-Dongs are the staff of
>>> life.
>>
>>Someone will buy the brands. The issue came about because people are
>>buying less of that stuff then they used to, declining sales and a less
>>then nimble management.
>
> Part of the reason was declining sales but the other half of the
> equation was the union that struck. Just like the Air Traffic
> Controllers these union members taught the owners something!!!!!!
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2012/11/16/hostess-twinkies-ding-dongs-wonder-bread-going-out-of-business/1708409/
>
> "The company, which had been in and out of bankruptcy restructuring,
> was already struggling from a high cost structure and sluggish
> consumer demand for its products. Its fate was sealed by a confluence
> of negative events including rising commodity costs and competitive
> pressures, says Erin Lash, analyst at Morningstar.
>
> The company had warned it would file a motion in U.S. Bankruptcy Court
> to shut operations if enough workers didn't end a weeklong strike by 5
> p.m. ET Thursday. On Friday, it followed through on that threat."
>
> mike

Hostess has been on the down hill slide for years. Short of a major
overhaul of both management and operations the company was toast (pun
intended). The union action just move the end time up a bit but not by
much.

Disregarding the finer points this is a good over view.

http://prospect.org/article/twinkie-defense

[nothermark]

Pretty much sums up what I found elsewhere.

Now if somebody could explain why upper management deserves a bonus
for losing money.... ;-)

[Bruce S]

The worst of the management problems were caused by the unions - and the
stupidity of management giving in to their demands. Just a couple
examples:

"The work rules imposed in union contracts required the company that
makes Twinkies, which also makes Wonder Bread, to deliver these two
products to stores in separate trucks. Moreover, truck drivers were not
allowed to load either of these products into their trucks. And the
people who did load Twinkies into trucks were not allowed to load Wonder
Bread, and vice versa. All of this was obviously intended to create
more jobs for the unions' members. But the needless additional costs
that these make-work rules created ended up driving the company into
bankruptcy."

The company should have dealt with the unions years ago either by
refusing to negotiate or by moving to non-union areas.

--
Bruce

Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one
else can see. Arthur Schopenhauer

[Lone Haranguer]

NotMe wrote:

Hostess has been on the down hill slide for years. Short of a
major overhaul of both management and operations the company was
toast (pun intended). The union action just move the end time up
a bit but not by much. Disregarding the finer points this is a
good over view. http://prospect.org/article/twinkie-defense

Union policy. If the patient is sick, kill it and take it out of
its misery.....than blame the corpse for the loss of jobs.
LZ

[Owen McKenzie]

http://blog.crown.org/2012/11/19/twinkies/


--

Owen McKenzie
Posting from Largo, FL


"Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying
to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly
succeed, and are right."
-- H. L. Mencken

[Lone Haranguer]

Owen McKenzie wrote:
> On 11/20/2012 6:58 PM, Lone Haranguer wrote:
>> NotMe wrote:
>>
>> Hostess has been on the down hill slide for years. Short of
>> a major
>> overhaul of both management and operations the company was
>> toast (pun
>> intended). The union action just move the end time up a bit
>> but not by
>> much. Disregarding the finer points this is a good over view.
>> http://prospect.org/article/twinkie-defense
>> Union policy. If the patient is sick, kill it and take it out
>> of its
>> misery.....than blame the corpse for the loss of jobs.
>> LZ
> http://blog.crown.org/2012/11/19/twinkies/
>
>

Good analogy. Even our resident liberals have probably played
Monopoly and might understand the dilemma we face.

Maybe Monopoly should add a place with 10 acres, goats and chickens?
LZ

[Bob]

In article <50a6fae8$0$54507$c3e8da3$6901...@news.astraweb.com>,
gmd...@att.net says...
>
> On 11/16/2012 6:36 PM, nothermark wrote:

> > On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:30:51 -0800 (PST), ozm...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >> On Friday, November 16, 2012 5:01:39 PM UTC-6, Hank wrote:
> >>> Does anything matter anymore? Heard that Hostess Twinkies are going to be unavailable in the future. How will I get my quick sugar fix while driving my RV?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hank
> >>
> >> Don't sweat it.........
> >>
> >>
> >> Someone will buy the name and we will have "acme" Twinkies.
> >>
> >> oz, who can't stand Twinkies, but to whom Ding-Dongs are the staff of life.
> >

> > But will anybody pick up Wonder Bread with red yellow and blue ballons
> > on the wrapper? The original styroloaf we got our PG&J sandwiches on.
> > ;-)
> >
>
> PG&J?

Proctor, Gamble and Jelly