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Lone Haranguer

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Nov 7, 2009, 9:35:33 PM11/7/09
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Got a call from the boys a few hours ago. One fairly large buck and a
doe have been shot on the old farm.

They may go out in the morning as they have one tag left.

Hoo Boy! I just L O V E venison.
LZ

Pepperoni

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Nov 7, 2009, 10:48:22 PM11/7/09
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Lone Haranguer <linu...@gmail.com> wrote in news:7lmp3dF3f12j4U1
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I saw one being dressed yesterday. The deer follow a treeline past the
State Police post, across 5 lanes of highway and past the post office,
going from corn field to oak forest. I'm glad to see them taken. Deer are
a bad road hazard here, especially in town. We are over-run with the
critters. They munch the county parks so bad that nothing will survive that
isn't tall enough to be out of reach. They will munch your garden, your
roses, and pull up your flowers to eat the bulbs. If the winter is bad,
they will strip the bark off of your fruit trees.

They are really healthy, though. They spend all summer feeding on corn,
beans and apples.

Lone Haranguer

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Nov 7, 2009, 11:04:31 PM11/7/09
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Many years ago when I lived in a St. Paul, MN suburb (Shoreview) I did
my deer hunting inside the Freeway belt surrounding the twin cities.

What I found odd was that most of these urban townships allowed hunting
with shotgun slugs but not with a bow.... I triple checked this with
township attorneys and the game warden to be sure. One day I shot a
plump yearling and as I was dressing it, a local police car cruised up.
I expected a hassle but he just asked me to make sure it wasn't
visible when I drove past nearby houses. The owners considered them
pets. He said one lady fed them candy bars....
LZ

Pepperoni

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Lone Haranguer <linu...@gmail.com> wrote in news:7lmua8F3e64emU1
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> Many years ago when I lived in a St. Paul, MN suburb (Shoreview) I did
> my deer hunting inside the Freeway belt surrounding the twin cities.
>
> What I found odd was that most of these urban townships allowed hunting
> with shotgun slugs but not with a bow.... I triple checked this with
> township attorneys and the game warden to be sure. One day I shot a
> plump yearling and as I was dressing it, a local police car cruised up.
> I expected a hassle but he just asked me to make sure it wasn't
> visible when I drove past nearby houses. The owners considered them
> pets. He said one lady fed them candy bars....
>


A lot of deer spend the day inside the cloverleaf on the freeways. They
become thick with brush and there is almost no human traffic.

I see them everywhere. We have a wild riverside, but they wander the
universities and hospital grounds. They will stand on the centerline on
country roads and expect you to stop for them.

50,000 car/deer incidents in Michigan each year.

The good thing about deer season is that the fishing areas suddenly become
deserted. Everyone departs for the woods. The fishing is still great and
the lots are empty.


Pepperoni


richard

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Nov 8, 2009, 12:00:06 AM11/8/09
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I used to live in cincinnati. You knew it was hunting season because the
deer came out of the parks and grazed by the highway.

In wisconsin, I was going to work one morning and this humongous 10 point
buck waltzes across in front of me. He stops and looks. "Yes sir, you go
right ahead, don't mind me.".

My uncle is a deer hunter and he tags like around 12 every year. Dresses
his own right in the barn.

How can you spot a "city boy" in hunting season?
In wisconsin I'm driving my truck into town and get a good laugh. There's
this nice big flat 5 acre ground totally open. I see like six people all
standing around in plain view just waiting for that poor stupid deer to
show up. While 20 deer go romping through the woods behind them.

richard

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Nov 8, 2009, 12:02:36 AM11/8/09
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One time I was driving down this one highway during hunting season and
there's this nice big deer right beside a house. The lady was in front
trying to get somebody's attention. "Hey guys! I got one right here."

Lone Haranguer

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Nov 8, 2009, 12:23:44 AM11/8/09
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One of the funniest sights I ever witnessed while hunting took place in
southwest MN near a town named Kerkoven. I and my son had been pheasant
hunting this huge swamp several times and the place was alive with deer.
So we decided to hunt deer early and pheasants later (season on
pheasant opened at 9 AM). I was standing next to the little Fiat
puffing from dragging a good sized buck about a half mile when I heard a
barrage of gunfire. The soil was dried peat and a puff of dust arose at
every shot. The farmers were blasting away while the deer was way out
of range and when it ran right past them their guns were empty.
My son and I almost wet our pants.
LZ

JerryD(upstateNY)

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Nov 8, 2009, 6:59:48 AM11/8/09
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Near where I live is a 1000 acre park.
Years ago, the deer were thick in it and there were many car struck deer
accidents in the area.
A friend of mine had a friend who was a local policeman.
Every time a deer was struck, the cop would call Dave.
The cop even filled out car struck deer tags with Dave's name address and
telephone number and give then to other cops who worked in the area.
Dave's freezer was always full of venison and he was always giving it away,
he had so much.
They started bow hunting in the park and have cut the herd way down so there
are no longer near as many deer struck in the area.

--
JerryD(upstateNY)


Ron Recer

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Nov 8, 2009, 7:03:59 AM11/8/09
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Last Sunday I watched most of a deer hunt along the Yellowstone River in
Montana from Oklahoma via web cam. The connection dropped out just before
the shot and by the time I got connected again, got the camera pointed in
the right direction and zoomed in they were field dressing the deer. A few
days before I counted 39 mule deer in that hayfield.

Ron


nothermark

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:57:01 AM11/8/09
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:04:31 -0700, Lone Haranguer
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They did not want Bambi running through the yards leaving a blood
trail or collapsing in the yard with an arrow in it. What the anti
hunters can't see they can't whine about.

Lone Haranguer

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:08:30 AM11/8/09
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On a deer hunting trip to MT with the boys, the ranch we normally hunted
had been taken over by a camera crew from Sports Afield who were
documenting
the deer raiding the rancher's haystacks. He sent us over to a
neighbor's place and the rancher said the Whitetails were in the wooded
gullies and the mulies were out on the flats. We had 6 deer tags to
fill and not a lot of time to fill them so I told the rancher we will
take the mulies since they are dumber and can't count. Took us about an
hour for us to fill our tags. Long range shooting and some
belly-crawling through cacti but not really a difficult stalk.
LZ

richard

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Nov 8, 2009, 2:51:12 PM11/8/09
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In Ohio, if you strike a deer and kill it, it's yours.
Hunting season or not.

JerryD(upstateNY)

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Nov 8, 2009, 3:55:41 PM11/8/09
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"richard" wrote in message > In Ohio, if you strike a deer and kill it,
it's yours. Hunting season or not.


It's about the same in NY but most people here that hit deer, don't want it.
And you can't transport a deer without the proper paper work.

--
JerryD(upstateNY)


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gazz

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"JerryD(upstateNY)" <m...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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over here in england, if you hit a deer, or any other wild animal/bird, your
not alowed to keep it,

BUT the next person that comes accross it is legaly allowed to take it, so
you get to smash up your car hitting the damn deer, and the bloke following
you gets free venison steaks.

JerryD(upstateNY)

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:55:42 PM11/9/09
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gazz" <s...@m.con> wrote in message......over here in england, if you hit a
deer, or any other wild animal/bird, your not alowed to keep it BUT the
next person that comes accross it is legaly allowed to take it, so you get
to smash up your car hitting the damn deer, and the bloke following you gets
free venison steaks.


Only a politician could come up with that stupid law.


--
JerryD(upstateNY)
>


Lone Haranguer

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Nov 9, 2009, 8:11:54 PM11/9/09
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Unless things have changed, in Germany you were obligated to inform
police where the deer's carcass was when you hit one.

The police had the records of who owned the property and who had the
hunting rights there. The deer would be hauled to a shop which dressed
wild game
and the deer credited to that person since he was the de facto owner.

Those who had a German hunting license were expected (as a matter of
courtesy) to contact the police to learn the name of whomever had the
hunting rights where the deer was hit. However the hunter was expected
to dress the deer as soon as possible to maintain the highest possible
quality. He was then expected to turn the deer over to the owner of the
hunting rights. If he couldn't reach the owner, he was expected to drop
the deer off at the game shop and pass on the owner's name.
LZ

David "The Hamster" Malone

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:54:57 AM11/10/09
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On Nov 7, 11:58 pm, Pepperoni <trash...@hotmail.com> wrote:


> 50,000 car/deer incidents in Michigan each year.

My wife just got back from Lansing, Michigan from a pool tournament
and she commented on how many dead deer she saw along the highways
there. They saw many deer just standing at the side of the road
(waiting to die? :-) early in the morning.

David "The Hamster" Malone

Pepperoni

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:34:08 PM11/10/09
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"David \"The Hamster\" Malone" <mal...@ca.ibm.com> wrote in news:57444b5c-
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On foggy mornings they stay in the fields late to feed. This often brings
them into contact with morning rush hour traffic. Bowhunters and small game
hunters keep them stirred up and active.


bill horne

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:50:15 PM11/10/09
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David "The Hamster" Malone wrote:
> On Nov 7, 11:58 pm, Pepperoni <trash...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> 50,000 car/deer incidents in Michigan each year.
>
> My wife just got back from Lansing, Michigan from a pool tournament
> and she commented on how many dead deer she saw along the highways
> there. They saw many deer just standing at the side of the road
> (waiting to die?

No. Many of those deer were assigned to do traffic pattern analysis
for planned crossings, and just got too close to their work.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

David "The Hamster" Malone

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Nov 10, 2009, 3:54:06 PM11/10/09
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On Nov 10, 2:50 pm, bill horne <redy...@rye.net> wrote:

> No. Many of those deer were assigned to do traffic pattern analysis
> for planned crossings, and just got too close to their work.

That would explain the notebooks...

David "The Hamster" Malone

Ron Recer

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"Pepperoni" <tras...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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We summer in MT between Livingston and Gardiner along US-89 next to the
Yellowstone River. We see lots of deer along US-89 both alive and dead. I
ask the RV park owner if he knew how many deer were usually killed in that
52 mile stretch of highway. He told me that a few years back he knew a guy
who worked that part of US-89 for the state DOT and he said 500-600 deer
were killed most years.

Ron


Hunter Hampton

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Nov 10, 2009, 5:33:20 PM11/10/09
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:16:59 -0600, "Ron Recer" <RonR...@aol.com>
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>We summer in MT between Livingston and Gardiner along US-89 next to the
>Yellowstone River. We see lots of deer along US-89 both alive and dead. I
>ask the RV park owner if he knew how many deer were usually killed in that
>52 mile stretch of highway. He told me that a few years back he knew a guy
>who worked that part of US-89 for the state DOT and he said 500-600 deer
>were killed most years.

Reminds me of the story of the woman who wrote the parks dept asking
them to remove the deer crossing signs.

She felt there were too many getting hit.

Hunter

Chuck Norris

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Nov 10, 2009, 7:32:29 PM11/10/09
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And the umbrellas.
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From earners to yearners. Obamanomics!
From makers to takers. Obamanomics!

Chuck Norris

David "The Hamster" Malone

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Nov 11, 2009, 10:05:12 AM11/11/09
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On Nov 7, 9:35 pm, Lone Haranguer <linus...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hoo Boy!  I just L O V E  venison.

How do you feel about squirrel...? I ran over one this morning on the
way to work...

(It's all yours if you come and get it.)

David "The killer Hamster" Malone

Lone Haranguer

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David "The Hamster" Malone wrote:
> On Nov 7, 9:35 pm, Lone Haranguer <linus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hoo Boy! I just L O V E venison.
>
> How do you feel about squirrel...? I ran over one this morning on the
> way to work...

I think they are cute.....and also tasty. However older ones can be
chewy so we usually brown them in a pan first after being dipped in
flour, then bake them until tender. Cover them with a few strips of
bacon, some onions and apple slices.

The ones fattened on acorns are especially tasty.


>
> (It's all yours if you come and get it.)

Sorry. Roadkill doesn't stir my appetite.
LZ

David "The Hamster" Malone

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Nov 11, 2009, 10:34:41 AM11/11/09
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On Nov 11, 10:23 am, Lone Haranguer <linus...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think they are cute.....and also tasty.  However older ones can be
> chewy so we usually brown them in a pan first after being dipped in
> flour, then bake them until tender.  Cover them with a few strips of
> bacon, some onions and apple slices.

Really...? I've never eaten a squirrel. Rabbits a few times.

> Sorry.  Roadkill doesn't stir my appetite.

Alrighty then... anyhow, the other people I work with are telling me
to get it out of the office fridge, so I'll have to do something
creative. I'm not going to eat it.

Any suggestions?

David "The Hamster" Malone

Pepperoni

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"David \"The Hamster\" Malone" <mal...@ca.ibm.com> wrote in news:a194186f-
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Use the tail to tie the trebles on your fancy fishin' spinners. Also good
for some bulky flys like wooly-buggers or hackles on some patterns. Not too
good on floaters, use hollow deer hair for floaty bugs and poppers.


David "The Hamster" Malone

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Nov 11, 2009, 10:53:20 AM11/11/09
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On Nov 11, 10:45 am, Pepperoni <trash...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Use the tail to tie the trebles on your fancy fishin' spinners. Also good
> for some bulky flys like wooly-buggers or hackles on some patterns. Not too
> good on floaters, use hollow deer hair for floaty bugs and poppers.

Great idea. Give me a mailing address... I'll send you the tail.

David "The Hamster" Malone

Lone Haranguer

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David "The Hamster" Malone wrote:
> On Nov 11, 10:23 am, Lone Haranguer <linus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think they are cute.....and also tasty. However older ones can be
>> chewy so we usually brown them in a pan first after being dipped in
>> flour, then bake them until tender. Cover them with a few strips of
>> bacon, some onions and apple slices.
>
> Really...? I've never eaten a squirrel. Rabbits a few times.

I like rabbit but a squirrel fattened on acorns actually has more flavor.


>
>> Sorry. Roadkill doesn't stir my appetite.
>
> Alrighty then... anyhow, the other people I work with are telling me
> to get it out of the office fridge, so I'll have to do something
> creative. I'm not going to eat it.
>
> Any suggestions?

Yep. Wrap it Christmas paper and "forget" it on the roof of your car.

Someone will filch it and get their just desserts.
LZ
>
> David "The Hamster" Malone

Ron Recer

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"David "The Hamster" Malone" <mal...@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
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> How do you feel about squirrel...? I ran over one this morning on the
> way to work...
>
> (It's all yours if you come and get it.)
>
> David "The killer Hamster" Malone

I caught a squirrel Monday and another one Tuesday.

Last summer while we were in MT, field mice and rats chewed up some of my
sparkplug wires here at home. Last Week we were headed out to TX for a
campout with our RV club and I decided to put some D-con under the hood of
my car in case the field mice and/or rats came to dine. Sunday after we got
back from TX I headed out to the car which was parked on the drive. When I
opened the garage door I saw something run from under the car. When I
raised the hood to remove the D-con both containers had been totally
consumed. The car wiring was in fine shape fortunately. After running my
errand I decided to bait my live trap with D-con and set it under the front
of the car.

Monday morning when I headed out for coffee the live trap was empty, but
when I returned a squirrel was going crazy inside the trap. I decided to
let him calm down for a while before hauling him off. Later when I went out
to haul the squirrel away my live trap was gone. After a little searching I
found the live trap in the neighbors yard with a dead squirrel inside.
Apparently that was the squirrel that ate most of the D-con under my car
hood over the weekend. I think a neighbood dog tried to take the squirrel
home with him, but the live trap was just too heavy.

After disposing of the dead squirrel I re-set the live trap and once again
baited it with D-con. When I went to coffee Tuesday morning the trap was
empty. When I came back from coffee I still had an empty trap. About an
hour and a half later Karen came home from some erands and told me I had
another squirrel in the trap. I hauled that squirrel to the other side of
town and let him go.

I re-set the live trap again baited with D-con and so far haven't caught
anything, but I think I'll leave it for another day or so before I give up!

Ron


Lone Haranguer

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Nov 11, 2009, 7:57:04 PM11/11/09
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Why are you using D-con as bait in a live trap? Couldn't you spring for
a couple of peanuts?
Just wait until the SPCA learns about this.....
LZ

bill horne

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Nov 12, 2009, 1:15:15 AM11/12/09
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That's not the weird part. The weird part is baiting a live trap with
poison, then hauling the victim to to the other side of town and
letting him go to die. Maybe there's some logic in there somewhere,
but I don't see it yet.

Ron Recer

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These squirrels like it better than the pecans laying all over our side
yard. They apparently sought out the D-con under the hood of my car and ate
all of that. When I first put the trap out baited with D-con I though I
would catch a rat. Actually I did catch a rat, it just had a fuzzy tail!

Ron


Ron Recer

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Nov 12, 2009, 7:54:34 AM11/12/09
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"bill horne" <red...@rye.net> wrote in message
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The second squirrel didn't get enough D-con from the bait in the trap to
kill him. I only used a few pellets, not the entire box. Probably enough
to kill a mouse, but not a squirrel or rat. The surprise to me is that the
squirrels were so attracted with the D-con with pecans all over the ground
on the other end of the house. I have tried baiting the live trap with
nuts on several occasions over the years with very little success.

That brings up another reason I don't like these fuzzy tailed rats. We have
had a couple of pecan trees since 1981. We have yet to get a single pecan
off these trees because the squirrels clean the pecans out of the trees 4-6
weeks before they will turn ripe. When pecans are too far out on a limb to
reach they will chew the end of the branch off and let it and its pecans
fall to the ground.

We have also had trouble with squirrels tearing the screen covers off roof
vents on the house and getting in the attic. They are very destructive
little devils!

Ron


Lone Haranguer

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Nov 12, 2009, 9:41:07 AM11/12/09
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Ummmmm! That way someone else has to bury the critter?
LZ

Lone Haranguer

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Nov 12, 2009, 10:10:53 AM11/12/09
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They don't have to gnaw the shells off D-con. They will not only eat it
but haul it home and cache it in their pantries. Mice and chipmunks
do the same thing.


>
> That brings up another reason I don't like these fuzzy tailed rats. We have
> had a couple of pecan trees since 1981. We have yet to get a single pecan
> off these trees because the squirrels clean the pecans out of the trees 4-6
> weeks before they will turn ripe. When pecans are too far out on a limb to
> reach they will chew the end of the branch off and let it and its pecans
> fall to the ground.

Rotten little bastards. Of course they do the same thing to the oak
trees but not many people eat acorns.


>
> We have also had trouble with squirrels tearing the screen covers off roof
> vents on the house and getting in the attic. They are very destructive
> little devils!
>

Red or pine squirrels are the worst. Don't know if they are your
problem but mostly likely yours are of the gray variety.
You are going to have to become proactive and shoot the little bastards
with a pellet gun or slingshot every time you see one.
LZ

> Ron
>
>

Ron Recer

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"Lone Haranguer" <linu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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We have a red oak about 40 feet from where I have the live trap. Oak and
pecan trees come up all over they yard every spring, but one mowing takes
care of them.

>> We have also had trouble with squirrels tearing the screen covers off
>> roof vents on the house and getting in the attic. They are very
>> destructive little devils!
>>
> Red or pine squirrels are the worst. Don't know if they are your problem
> but mostly likely yours are of the gray variety.
> You are going to have to become proactive and shoot the little bastards
> with a pellet gun or slingshot every time you see one.

These are red squirrels. I have now gone over 40 hours without catching
one. I'll leave the trap out a few more days and see if any more show up.

Ron
> LZ
>
>> Ron


Lone Haranguer

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Ron Recer wrote:
> We have a red oak about 40 feet from where I have the live trap. Oak and
> pecan trees come up all over they yard every spring, but one mowing takes
> care of them.
>
>>> We have also had trouble with squirrels tearing the screen covers off
>>> roof vents on the house and getting in the attic. They are very
>>> destructive little devils!
>>>
>> Red or pine squirrels are the worst. Don't know if they are your problem
>> but mostly likely yours are of the gray variety.
>> You are going to have to become proactive and shoot the little bastards
>> with a pellet gun or slingshot every time you see one.
>
> These are red squirrels. I have now gone over 40 hours without catching
> one. I'll leave the trap out a few more days and see if any more show up.

Aha! Red squirrels are indeed far more pesky than the gray variety and
also a lot smarter. You can tell they have
guilty consciences because they run like hell when they see you whereas
the gray variety will stay and keep munching.
LZ
>
> Ron
>> LZ
>>
>>> Ron
>
>

Frank Howell

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Just go to a Pecan store. How much can Pecans cost?

--
Frank Howell


Ron Recer

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"Frank Howell" <fpho...@usermail.com> wrote in message
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Years ago we gave up the the thought of ever getting any pecans off our
trees! I haven't yet given up the thought of greatly reducing the local
squirrel population though! ;-)

Ron


David "The Hamster" Malone

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Nov 12, 2009, 4:22:31 PM11/12/09
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On Nov 12, 12:09 pm, "Frank Howell" <fphow...@usermail.com> wrote:

> Just go to a Pecan store. How much can Pecans cost?

$8.09 a pound if you buy in bulk...

http://www.nutsonline.com/nuts/pecans/georgia-raw-noshell.html

David "The buys-in-bulk Hamster" Malone

Lone Haranguer

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Nov 12, 2009, 4:32:49 PM11/12/09
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Invest in a good quality pellet rifle with a scope on it.
Cheap entertainment and even those you miss will think twice about
trespassing.
LZ

Frank Howell

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Nov 12, 2009, 8:04:03 PM11/12/09
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David "The Hamster" Malone wrote:

Well if anyone knows about bulk..........

--
Frank Howell


David "The Hamster" Malone

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Nov 13, 2009, 9:21:20 AM11/13/09
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On Nov 12, 8:04 pm, "Frank Howell" <fphow...@usermail.com> wrote:

> Well if anyone knows about bulk..........

Lol... ooh... ooh... hey, Ref, that was below the belt (or just above
it).

David "The less-bulky-than-he-used-to-be Hamster" Malone

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