Even Blue Birds can burn :(
Don Bradner
Last night on fire:
http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3184&d=1257468990
About out:
http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3189&d=1257472311
Another just after:
http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3190&d=1257472409
This morning:
http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3193&d=1257518483
Interior through the windshield:
http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3198&d=1257518786
Co-Pilot's seat:
http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3199&d=1257518811
A final look:
http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3200&d=1257518828
Coach belongs to Randy Dupree, one of the best known people in the
Wanderlodge world. Happened at his home in Archer, FL.
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Don Bradner
www.arcatapet.net
'90 Wanderlodge PT40 "Blue Thunder"
towing '07 Jeep Liberty
Bob Hatch
Everyone safe?
What started it?
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Don Bradner
wrote:
Yes. They had returned the day before from four weeks on the road, so
hadn't unloaded - lost a lot of possessions, but nobody hurt.
>What started it?
Too soon to tell, but elecrical is the guess. The story is quite long,
as there were actually two fires in one day, with the first probably
doing enough to total the bus, but the best guess is the firemen
didn't get it totally out, and it went up fully later in the day.
richard
That's typical of an engine fire that starts in the carb.
Where I used to live, the local fire department had a little policy.
If they got called back a third time, they'd dump sand in the carb.
Bob Hatch
Really? What kind of "carb" does a diesel engine use?
Hunter Hampton
>If they got called back a third time, they'd dump sand in the carb.
Um, it's a diesel.
Hunter
Mickey
....
>>> Too soon to tell, but elecrical is the guess. The story is quite long,
>>> as there were actually two fires in one day, with the first probably
>>> doing enough to total the bus, but the best guess is the firemen
>>> didn't get it totally out, and it went up fully later in the day.
>> That's typical of an engine fire that starts in the carb.
>> Where I used to live, the local fire department had a little policy.
>> If they got called back a third time, they'd dump sand in the carb.
>
> Really? What kind of "carb" does a diesel engine use?
>
>
It's one of those special diesels that use spark plugs. :D
Mickey
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>It's one of those special diesels that use spark plugs. :D
>
>Mickey
richard is still batting 1,000, that's better than Matsui... <g>
Hunter
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"richard" <mem...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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this damned carp's will just blow up, I just wish this diesel owner would
change out the air in the tires instead of letting it brew under pressure
and have all this gaseous high pressure mixture blow up.
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>That's what you get when you don't change the spark plugs every fill up,
>this damned carp's will just blow up, I just wish this diesel owner would
>change out the air in the tires instead of letting it brew under pressure
>and have all this gaseous high pressure mixture blow up.
LOL! Here we go again <g>
richard
The one I invented in my previous life.
Don Bradner
heat rising, and nothing combustible between them, compartments,
contents, propane, diesel, tires all unscathed:
http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3203&d=1257611380
http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3202&d=1257611364
http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3205&d=1257611437
http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3201&d=1257611350
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:47:47 -0800, Don Bradner <do...@arcatapet.com>
wrote:
>Not mine, but happened last night, 42-foot 1995 with Series 60 engine.
>
>Last night on fire:
>http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3184&d=1257468990
---
nothermark
wrote:
>It is amazing how well a steel floor protects everthing below it. With
>heat rising, and nothing combustible between them, compartments,
>contents, propane, diesel, tires all unscathed:
>
>http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3203&d=1257611380
>
>http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3202&d=1257611364
>
>http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3205&d=1257611437
>
>http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3201&d=1257611350
>
>
>On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:47:47 -0800, Don Bradner <do...@arcatapet.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Not mine, but happened last night, 42-foot 1995 with Series 60 engine.
>>
>>Last night on fire:
>>http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3184&d=1257468990
>
>---
>Don Bradner
>www.arcatapet.net
>'90 Wanderlodge PT40 "Blue Thunder"
>towing '07 Jeep Liberty
>
Yes, it almost looks fixable. Then there is the wiring.....
Don Bradner
http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk397/kguns/CopyofPA312567.jpg
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:47:47 -0800, Don Bradner <do...@arcatapet.com>
wrote:
>Not mine, but happened last night, 42-foot 1995 with Series 60 engine.
>
>Last night on fire:
>http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3184&d=1257468990
Bob Hatch
replace it?
Tom J
> Don Bradner wrote:
>> This is a picture of that '95 Blue Bird in "happier days gone by:"
>>
>> http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk397/kguns/CopyofPA312567.jpg
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:47:47 -0800, Don Bradner
>> <do...@arcatapet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Not mine, but happened last night, 42-foot 1995 with Series 60
>>> engine. Last night on fire:
>>> http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3184&d=1257468990
>> ---
>> Don Bradner
>> www.arcatapet.net
>> '90 Wanderlodge PT40 "Blue Thunder"
>> towing '07 Jeep Liberty
>>
> I think we can assume that the rig was totaled. How hard will it be
> to
> replace it?
Unless a dealer still has a new one on the lot somewhere, it would
have to be replaced with a used one. Blue Bird dropped motorhome
production.
Tom J
Don Bradner
> I think we can assume that the rig was totaled. How hard will it be
> to
> replace it?
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:39:19 -0500, "Tom J" <tomn...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>
>Unless a dealer still has a new one on the lot somewhere, it would
>have to be replaced with a used one. Blue Bird dropped motorhome
>production.
>
>Tom J
>
Totaled I'm sure.
Most of the Blue Bird crowd, at least the ones online and at rallies,
aren't much interested in newer vintage. Price of course matters, but
there is a general perception that the best Blue Birds are quite a few
years old. Only 1 2008 and 1 2009 were ever sold, and there were two
2009s and 2 partially complete ones that were part of the bankruptcy
auction last month.
There are plenty for sale, and of course it is a buyer's market. That
1995 with every amenity you could imagine carried a NADA value of $89K
according to the owner. He says this is the first time he's been
birdless in 20 years, and he has owned as many as 3 at once.
His preference this time is for a 97, the last year of the
aircraft-riveted bodies.
If anybody wants to get a look at just how well the old birds hold up
and they happen to be in Q this winter they should stop buy the "nest"
in La Posa South from about the 16th to the 25th of January. This will
be the fourth year of a growing event, with 80 coaches signed up so
far. Usually the oldest ones there are early 70s models, with a large
number of 80s and early 90s represented.
Don Bradner
wrote:
>Don Bradner wrote:
>> Not mine, but happened last night, 42-foot 1995 with Series 60 engine.
>>
>> Last night on fire:
>> http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3184&d=1257468990
>What started it?
The insurance fire inspector found that the original fire started from
a chafed 12VDC heavy cable (from the battery bank in the rear) in the
front left compartment which has distribution and connections to the
generator. Picture of that area here:
http://www.pbase.com/iamflagman/image/119293183.jpg
That problem ended when the fire department cut the cables at the
batteries, but the finding is that there was a hot spot somewhere in
the chassis that flared up later and led to the conflagration.
Chuck Norris
wrote:
>On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:32:15 -0700, Bob Hatch <bob....@ymail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Don Bradner wrote:
>>> Not mine, but happened last night, 42-foot 1995 with Series 60 engine.
>>>
>>> Last night on fire:
>>> http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3184&d=1257468990
>
>>What started it?
>
>The insurance fire inspector found that the original fire started from
>a chafed 12VDC heavy cable (from the battery bank in the rear) in the
>front left compartment which has distribution and connections to the
>generator. Picture of that area here:
>
>http://www.pbase.com/iamflagman/image/119293183.jpg
>
>That problem ended when the fire department cut the cables at the
>batteries, but the finding is that there was a hot spot somewhere in
>the chassis that flared up later and led to the conflagration.
Just how do 'hot spots' flare up? Something was drawing very high
current to cause the hot spot. Find out what that failure is and you
have the culprit.
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Don Bradner
Frank got it. The original fire was a dead short, but once all of the
cables were cut at the batteries there was no current flowing anywhere
(the coach was not plugged in after the first fire). A "hot spot"
typically refers to a residual glowing ember of some sort, and is the
bane of all firefighters including those fighting forest fires.
Chuck Norris
wrote:
>
>Frank got it. The original fire was a dead short, but once all of the
>cables were cut at the batteries there was no current flowing anywhere
>(the coach was not plugged in after the first fire). A "hot spot"
>typically refers to a residual glowing ember of some sort, and is the
>bane of all firefighters including those fighting forest fires.
>
>
Gotcha.
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local pub, where have you been retard?