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Mike Hendrix

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Nov 17, 2009, 7:00:57 PM11/17/09
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It has been a long time since I have seen anything from Will, does
anyone know if he is OK?

mike
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Janet Wilder

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Nov 17, 2009, 7:15:59 PM11/17/09
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He quit the newsgroup when his ISP stopped carrying newsgroups. I guess
he was either too cheap or too inept to set up a news server. I believe
he had a newsreader in his Outlook program.

I, for one, do not miss him.

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Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

Steve Wolf

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Nov 17, 2009, 7:51:25 PM11/17/09
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Maybe he tried some winter camping!!!

Frank Howell

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Nov 17, 2009, 7:56:07 PM11/17/09
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His last post was he was quitting RORT.

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Frank Howell


Theophilus

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Nov 17, 2009, 8:00:44 PM11/17/09
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Frank Howell wrote:
> Mike Hendrix wrote:
>> It has been a long time since I have seen anything from Will, does
>> anyone know if he is OK?
>>
>> mike
>
> His last post was he was quitting RORT.
>

Good, nobody needs his hateful, vengeful, sarcastic, harassing posts.

Lone Haranguer

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Nov 17, 2009, 8:24:09 PM11/17/09
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I've been wondering about Mark Jones.... He was in poor health and
hasn't posted in a long time.

Doesn't he have a personal friend on the entire newsgroup? He was a
decent sort......especially for a Democrat.
LZ

Mike Hendrix

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:55:34 PM11/17/09
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--------------------
I miss both of them. Ol Will was an ornery cuss but he did provide
good information. Opinionated to a fault ------ but I enjoyed reading
his technical stuff.

mike
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Mike Simmons

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Nov 17, 2009, 10:07:49 PM11/17/09
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"Mike Hendrix" <mikeh...@isp.com> wrote in message
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Will is fine. I had an email from him last week or so.

MIke

Mike Hendrix

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Nov 17, 2009, 11:21:21 PM11/17/09
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:07:49 -0600, "Mike Simmons" <mik...@yhti.net>
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Mike, thanks for the report. It would be a shame for something to
happen to him and none of us know it.

mike
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Chuck Norris

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Nov 18, 2009, 1:21:29 PM11/18/09
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Then why do we read your posts?
--
"Liberals refuse to allow facts to conflict with their preconceived
notions."

And its corollary

"A Conservative believes what he sees; a Liberal sees what he
believes.

Chuck Norris

Just plain Dusty

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Nov 18, 2009, 7:55:36 PM11/18/09
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Yeah, Will is fine. I'm in loose touch with both him and his brother.
Last I heard from him he was reiterating how little he missed some of those
posting here...(:-o)!

Dusty
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"As an American I am not so shocked that Obama was given the Nobel
Peace Prize without any accomplishments to his name, but that America
gave him the White House based on the same credentials." -- Newt
Gingrich


Advocate54

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Nov 19, 2009, 12:22:04 AM11/19/09
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"Just plain Dusty" <RV-dr...@OneAmeriREMOVETHIScanPatriot.com> wrote in
message news:BPSdnen2d4cVCpnW...@supernews.com...

> Mike Hendrix wrote:
>> It has been a long time since I have seen anything from Will, does
>> anyone know if he is OK?
>>
>> mike
> Yeah, Will is fine. I'm in loose touch with both him and his brother.
> Last I heard from him he was reiterating how little he missed some of
> those posting here...(:-o)!
>

As you are in touch with Will, please tell him from me that I feel the same
: )

Lon VanOstran

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Nov 19, 2009, 4:58:40 PM11/19/09
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Actually, Will grew weary of suffering fools. He's doing well without
you.

Lon, who rarely suffers them intentionally these days.

Lon VanOstran

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Nov 19, 2009, 4:59:42 PM11/19/09
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How much do they need yours?

Lon, who already knows the answer.

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Lone Haranguer

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stan....@hotmail.com wrote:

>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 "Just plain Dusty" wrote:
>>> mike
>> Yeah, Will is fine. I'm in loose touch with both him and his brother.
>> Last I heard from him he was reiterating how little he missed some of those
>> posting here...(:-o)!
>
> I used to frequently correspond with Will as a friend many years ago .
> . . . until he discovered I was a Jew. :-(

Are you certain that was the reason? Or was it because you're a
confirmed bigot?
LZ

Janet Wilder

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Nov 19, 2009, 6:42:05 PM11/19/09
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Attacking those whom he judged as fools was his stock in trade. That's
how he got his jollies.

IIRC, toward the end of his sojourn at RORT, even his cohorts were
remarking that he was coming out of left-field half the time. He spent
more time trying to twist himself out of embarrassing posts than he did
attempting to be helpful. The man was so intent on shooting his cutsey
little barbs at people that he was becoming incapable of reading for
context.

The "suffering fools" excuse is pure cattle excrement.

Janet Wilder

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Nov 19, 2009, 6:43:44 PM11/19/09
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I see you are back to being his butt-buddy, again. Good for you for
being a forgiving soul.

Janet Wilder

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Nov 19, 2009, 6:45:41 PM11/19/09
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stan....@hotmail.com wrote:

>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 Janet Wilder <kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> He quit the newsgroup when his ISP stopped carrying newsgroups. I guess
>> he was either too cheap or too inept to set up a news server. I believe
>> he had a newsreader in his Outlook program.
>
> Probably "inept". And even then, it doesn't require a vast reservoir
> of intelligence to hook up to one of the free news servers.

He was getting his ass whupped in more than one flame war. He just
couldn't finish what he started because he had become incapable
comprehending the things he was responding to. That's what happens when
people hate before they read.

I think he stopped being helpful about 5 years ago when RV technology
surpassed his knowledge base. JMHO

Janet Wilder

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Nov 19, 2009, 6:47:18 PM11/19/09
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stan....@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 "Just plain Dusty" wrote:
>>> mike
>> Yeah, Will is fine. I'm in loose touch with both him and his brother.
>> Last I heard from him he was reiterating how little he missed some of those
>> posting here...(:-o)!
>
> I used to frequently correspond with Will as a friend many years ago .
> . . . until he discovered I was a Jew. :-(

OMG! It was pretty much the same with me, but I got that "some of my
best friends are..." for a couple of years.

Mike Simmons

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Nov 19, 2009, 7:35:35 PM11/19/09
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"Janet Wilder" <kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Ummm, Janet.... if anything, Will was coming out of "right" field.

;^)

Mike

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Max

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:14:41 PM11/19/09
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"Frank Tabor" <fta...@gmail.com> wrote
> Will was a Male Chauvinistic WASP and proud of it. He was probably more
> bigoted than Stan the Bitch.


Hmm. I thought I was the only one with that opinion.

Max


Hunter Hampton

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:38:49 PM11/19/09
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:35:35 -0600, "Mike Simmons" <mik...@yhti.net>
wrote:

>Ummm, Janet.... if anything, Will was coming out of "right" field.
>
>;^)
>
>Mike

<snort>

A little warning please <g>

Hunter

Carl A. in FL

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:50:15 PM11/19/09
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Lone Haranguer wrote:
> stan....@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 "Just plain Dusty" wrote:
>>>> mike
>>> Yeah, Will is fine. I'm in loose touch with both him and his
>>> brother. Last I heard from him he was reiterating how little he
>>> missed some of those posting here...(:-o)! Of course, he is a friend of Hunter's.

>>
>> I used to frequently correspond with Will as a friend many years ago .
>> . . . until he discovered I was a Jew. :-(
>
> Are you certain that was the reason? Or was it because you're a
> confirmed bigot?
> LZ

In addition to being an ignorant, prejudiced, xenophobic, Florida-hating
but state park mooching asshole of the first order.

No "human being" worthy of that description would want to correspond
with scum like Stan. He is, no surprise, much admired by Hunter.

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Carl A. in FL
http://sky.prohosting.com/chainfl/index.htm

Carl A. in FL

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:52:55 PM11/19/09
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Janet Wilder wrote:
> stan....@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 "Just plain Dusty" wrote:
>>>> mike
>>> Yeah, Will is fine. I'm in loose touch with both him and his
>>> brother. Last I heard from him he was reiterating how little he
>>> missed some of those posting here...(:-o)!
>>
>> I used to frequently correspond with Will as a friend many years ago .
>> . . . until he discovered I was a Jew. :-(
>
> OMG! It was pretty much the same with me, but I got that "some of my
> best friends are..." for a couple of years.
>
I can think of a number of reasons why someone might not want to
correspond with you...but it's really so convenient to blame it on your
Jewishness.

OK, so call me a Nazi, again.

Carl A. in FL

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Nov 19, 2009, 9:55:30 PM11/19/09
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altar nospam wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:47:18 -0600, Janet Wilder
> <kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> stan....@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 "Just plain Dusty" wrote:
>>>>> mike
>>>> Yeah, Will is fine. I'm in loose touch with both him and his brother.
>>>> Last I heard from him he was reiterating how little he missed some of those
>>>> posting here...(:-o)!
>>> I used to frequently correspond with Will as a friend many years ago .
>>> . . . until he discovered I was a Jew. :-(
>> OMG! It was pretty much the same with me, but I got that "some of my
>> best friends are..." for a couple of years.
>
> Wow. I thought he hated me just because I differed with him
> politically. That explains a great deal. Maybe.
>
> Tom

LOL, when in doubt, have a persecution complex.

I rather doubt that your wife's being Jewish had anything at all to do
with his opinion of you. Seems to me that he despised you for reasons
that had nothing to with your your wife, and all with your consistent
display of intellectual dishonesty.

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Janet Wilder

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Nov 19, 2009, 11:43:58 PM11/19/09
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You're a Nazi, forever. <g>
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Hustlin' Hank

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Nov 20, 2009, 10:56:21 AM11/20/09
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On Nov 19, 9:50�pm, "Carl A. in FL" <chai...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> In addition to being an ignorant, prejudiced, xenophobic, Florida-hating
> but state park mooching asshole of the first order.

>
> --
> Carl A. in FLhttp://sky.prohosting.com/chainfl/index.htm

He hated Florida? I knew there had to be something me and him had in
common. :-)

Hank

Lone Haranguer

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Hustlin' Hank wrote:

Stan hates Florida because they don't let him park everywhere for free.
Still, he makes the long trip down there with his disintegrating
pile of junk to avail himself of the state's warm weather and uses it's
state parks as much as they will allow.

He's a pig who shits in the same trough he dines in.
LZ

Mike Hendrix

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Nov 20, 2009, 12:48:53 PM11/20/09
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:30:01 -0500, stan....@hotmail.com wrote:

>>On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 Janet Wilder <kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>He quit the newsgroup when his ISP stopped carrying newsgroups. I guess
>>he was either too cheap or too inept to set up a news server. I believe
>>he had a newsreader in his Outlook program.
>

>Probably "inept". And even then, it doesn't require a vast reservoir
>of intelligence to hook up to one of the free news servers.

---------------------------
For all the things Will was -------- he was NOT stupid. He was a
pretty sharp individual with a lot of good experience. For a long
time he provided some good information -------------. He really did.

Yea, he had some faults but he did provide good advice when advice was
requested.

But that is just my view.

mike
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Lone Haranguer

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Nov 20, 2009, 12:50:33 PM11/20/09
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Careful! You're going to be kicked off the "reasonable people" list.
LZ

R.J.(Bob) Evans

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Nov 20, 2009, 12:52:45 PM11/20/09
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:15:59 -0600 Janet Wilder
<kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I, for one, do not miss him.

I on the other hand do miss him. Not that either of our missing or
not missing him makes a whit of difference.


--
R.J.(Bob) Evans
(return address needs alteration to work)
http://travellingwithgeorge.blogspot.com/

Mike Hendrix

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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:14:21 -0700, Lone Haranguer
<linu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hustlin' Hank wrote:


>> On Nov 19, 9:50�pm, "Carl A. in FL" <chai...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In addition to being an ignorant, prejudiced, xenophobic, Florida-hating
>>> but state park mooching asshole of the first order.
>>
>>> --
>>> Carl A. in FLhttp://sky.prohosting.com/chainfl/index.htm
>>
>> He hated Florida? I knew there had to be something me and him had in
>> common. :-)
>>
>> Hank
>
>Stan hates Florida because they don't let him park everywhere for free.
> Still, he makes the long trip down there with his disintegrating
>pile of junk to avail himself of the state's warm weather and uses it's
>state parks as much as they will allow.

Linus, ol Stan has bitched about Florida not allowing him to park
everywhere for free but I don't think he "hates" Florida ----- after
all he keeps returning.

And another thing. He is paying good money if he is staying in
Florida State Parks. Those places aren't free or any where near free.
Although, in the winter they are usually cheaper than the privately
owned campgrounds.

I do not know what Canadians have to pay in National Parks. I seem to
remember that Stan like the extreme southern part of the state ----
Everglades area ------ there are a lot of camping opportunities in the
NP system down there and they are pretty cheap.

I do seem to remember that he did not like the Wal Marts not letting
him stay for free and he was bitching about the price of campgrounds.

If he would visit that area during the summer no one would say
anything if he overnighted in the Wal Mart ------ there ain't no one
there to say anything. VBG

Now during the winter when Stan likes to visit it is another matter.
VBG


mike
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Mike Hendrix

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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:14:41 -0700, "Max" <thesam...@sbcglobal.net>
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---------------------
News flash -------------- you weren't the only one. VBG

mike
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Mike Hendrix

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Nov 20, 2009, 3:41:57 PM11/20/09
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I think one of the landfill trolls already kicked me off his
"reasonable people" list. VBG

I just sent you a pretty good e-mail with an attachment. I do not
know how to make those things available for the group.

mike
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Chuck Norris

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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:56:21 -0800 (PST), "Hustlin' Hank"
<nineb...@aol.com> wrote:


I sure don't hate FL but when I lived there I found their ways to be
interesting. E.g., they had blood pressure machines in the shopping
malls. Odd. Coming from AZ, I noted the Florida snowbirds went there
to die while in AZ they went down to live.

Aside, the paper today, reported RV parks are b/t 90-95% reserved.
Highest in 3-4 years. And it is obvious driving down the streets.

--
"Liberals refuse to allow facts to conflict with their preconceived
notions."

And its corollary

"A Conservative believes what he sees; a Liberal sees what he
believes.

Chuck Norris

Chuck Norris

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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:34:38 -0800, altar nospam <al...@nospam.net>
wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:47:18 -0600, Janet Wilder
><kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>stan....@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 "Just plain Dusty" wrote:
>>>>> mike
>>>> Yeah, Will is fine. I'm in loose touch with both him and his brother.
>>>> Last I heard from him he was reiterating how little he missed some of those
>>>> posting here...(:-o)!
>>>
>>> I used to frequently correspond with Will as a friend many years ago .
>>> . . . until he discovered I was a Jew. :-(
>>
>>OMG! It was pretty much the same with me, but I got that "some of my
>>best friends are..." for a couple of years.
>

>Wow. I thought he hated me just because I differed with him
>politically. That explains a great deal. Maybe.
>
>Tom

Tom,

I rather suspect his animas towards you was due to the same reason the
rest of us dislike you. You are a political JERK! I don't have a
clue about you socially.

Chuck Norris

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While my opinion of Janet has gone up & down, not of the fluxuations
were due to her race or religion.

Chuck Norris

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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:42:05 -0600, Janet Wilder
<kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote:


>
>Attacking those whom he judged as fools was his stock in trade. That's
>how he got his jollies.

He had plenty of RORTers to choose from <G>.

>
>IIRC, toward the end of his sojourn at RORT, even his cohorts were
>remarking that he was coming out of left-field half the time. He spent
>more time trying to twist himself out of embarrassing posts than he did
>attempting to be helpful. The man was so intent on shooting his cutsey
>little barbs at people that he was becoming incapable of reading for
>context.

I must agree. He, I fear, is in the beginning stages of dementia. I'm
no doctor but he really changed over the 7 years I read his posts.

Carl A. in FL

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Chuck Norris wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:52:55 -0500, "Carl A. in FL"
> <cha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>> stan....@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 "Just plain Dusty" wrote:
>>>>>> mike
>>>>> Yeah, Will is fine. I'm in loose touch with both him and his
>>>>> brother. Last I heard from him he was reiterating how little he
>>>>> missed some of those posting here...(:-o)!
>>>> I used to frequently correspond with Will as a friend many years ago .
>>>> . . . until he discovered I was a Jew. :-(
>>> OMG! It was pretty much the same with me, but I got that "some of my
>>> best friends are..." for a couple of years.
>>>
>> I can think of a number of reasons why someone might not want to
>> correspond with you...but it's really so convenient to blame it on your
>> Jewishness.
>>
>> OK, so call me a Nazi, again.
>
> While my opinion of Janet has gone up & down, not of the fluxuations
> were due to her race or religion.
>
Same here, but when in doubt, she brings up her religion/race and my
having been raised in Germany.

bill horne

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Nov 20, 2009, 11:45:41 PM11/20/09
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I liked ole Will. My problem with him was when I disagreed with him,
he thought it was because he hadn't made himself clear.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

Janet Wilder

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Carl A. in FL wrote:
Carl A., if I do that it's usually in response to your throwing
something about Israel into your post - totally out of the blue - just
to make a point. If you weren't sensitive to my ethnicity, you wouldn't
keep playing the J card. You have instigated every incident.

You were not only raised in Germany, you were a member of the Hitler
Youth. When children are brainwashed, it's nearly impossible to rid them
of those prejudices unless they go through a whole lot of therapy. How
much therapy did you go through?

Lon VanOstran

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Nov 21, 2009, 7:24:59 AM11/21/09
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On Nov 19, 6:42 pm, Janet Wilder <kelliepoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Lon VanOstran wrote:
> > On Nov 17, 7:15 pm, Janet Wilder <kelliepoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Mike Hendrix wrote:
> >>> It has been a long time since I have seen anything from Will, does
> >>> anyone know if he is OK?
> >>> mike

> >> He quit the newsgroup when his ISP stopped carrying newsgroups. I guess
> >> he was either too cheap or too inept to set up a news server. I believe
> >> he had a newsreader in his Outlook program.
>
> >> I, for one, do not miss him.
>
> >> --
> >> Janet Wilder
> >> Way-the-heck-south Texas
> >> Spelling doesn't count.  Cooking does.
>
> > Actually, Will grew weary of suffering fools. He's doing well without
> > you.
>
> > Lon, who rarely suffers them intentionally these days.

>
> Attacking those whom he judged as fools was his stock in trade. That's
> how he got his jollies.
>
> IIRC, toward the end of his sojourn at RORT, even his cohorts were
> remarking that he was coming out of left-field half the time. He spent
> more time trying to twist himself out of embarrassing posts than he did
> attempting to be helpful. The man was so intent on shooting his cutsey
> little barbs at people that he was becoming incapable of reading for
> context.
>
> The "suffering fools" excuse is pure cattle excrement.

>
> --
> Janet Wilder
> Way-the-heck-south Texas
> Spelling doesn't count.  Cooking does.

Are you suggesting that he should suffer you gladly?

Lon

Carl A. in FL

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Nov 21, 2009, 8:24:00 AM11/21/09
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Minimum age for membership in the Hitler youth group = 10.

My DoB 07/07/1936

Do the math. In case you can't, I was 8 years old when WW II ended.

Ralph

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On Nov 19, 3:47 pm, Janet Wilder <kelliepoo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> stan.bi...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 "Just plain Dusty" wrote:
> >>> mike
> >> Yeah, Will is fine.  I'm in loose touch with both him and his brother.
> >> Last I heard from him he was reiterating how little he missed some of those
> >> posting here...(:-o)!
>
> > I used to frequently correspond with Will as a friend many years ago .
> > . . . until he discovered I was a Jew. :-(
>
> OMG! It was pretty much the same with me, but I got that "some of my
> best friends are..." for a couple of years.
>
>
I'm glad Will is well, but this reminds me of the prayer for the Tzar
in Fiddler on the Roof... how was that?? Lord bless and keep the Tzar,
far away from us

Ralph

Mike Hendrix

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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:45:41 -0500, bill horne <red...@rye.net>
wrote:

And that was seldom the case. Will was a good writer & thinker. When
he wrote things they were almost always very clear. It wasn't
difficult in the least to see & know where Will was coming from and
what he believed and what he wanted you to believe.

mike
--


Max

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Nov 21, 2009, 5:14:51 PM11/21/09
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> Carl A. in FL wrote:

>> Same here, but when in doubt, she brings up her religion/race and my
>> having been raised in Germany.

Well......um.....Carl aren't you a member of the "All Muslims are
terrorists" club?

Max

Carl A. in FL

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Nov 21, 2009, 5:21:14 PM11/21/09
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I could e-mail you incontrovertible proof that I am neither a Muslim nor
a Jew. However, I'm afraid it would give you an incurable inferiority
complex.

Bruce S

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Nov 21, 2009, 5:28:19 PM11/21/09
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You need to pay more attention. The following is a quote from Carl, in the
thread "Re: OT-4 minutes ago...." in response to our local xenophobe,
"Elmer". who claimed (within minutes of the Ft. Hood attack) that the Major
was a Muslim terrorist:

"Wouldn't you look rather foolish (to put it mildly) if it turns out that
the
Army Major committed these murders solely because he was pissed at the
military for wanting him to take on a duty assignment that he didn't want?
Might he have reacted the same way if he had been assigned to, say, Alaska
or Patagonia? What if it turns out that his religion had absolutely nothing
to do with his actions earlier today?

Mind you, I'm not defending or excusing him. But I do firmly believe that
this country should not give up the constitutionally required "innocent
until proven guilty" in matters of motivation. Stop speculating, wait for
the facts to come out."

In the end, it turned out that the Major was a terrorist, but it was Carl
who suggested waiting for evidence before making that claim.

Bruce

Janet Wilder

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Nov 21, 2009, 5:33:19 PM11/21/09
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Lon VanOstran wrote:

> Are you suggesting that he should suffer you gladly?
>

Hey, Cowboy! The last time you started with me you flounced out of here
with your tail between your legs.

You are just too dumb and pitiful to bother messing with again. Either
that or you are off your meds again.

Carl A. in FL

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Thanks, Bruce.

By now I'm quite accustomed to Max's habit of shitting before taking off
his pants.

Ordained Mystic

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Yes, I saw him this afternoon...

He was in Tampa, Ybor City to be exact.

There was a protest rally and he was carrying a sign for
the Gay & Lesbian Organization. "GLO"

--
A mystic is a person who is puzzled before the obvious,
but who understands the nonexistent.

What we call God's justice is only man's
idea of what he would do if he were God.

Theology is an attempt to explain a subject by men
who do not understand it. The intent is not to tell
the truth but to satisfy the questioner.

Max

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"Carl A. in FL" <cha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Uh.............hello.................anybody home?
Janet mentions your German nationality because (I believe) you demonstrate
such a "Bosch" attitude.
During WWII, American GIs had a term for the Germans (mostly the German
soldiers), "Bosch". As related to me by friends and relatives, the term was
used alternatively with "Blockhead" and "Squarehead". It referred to the
notion, held by the GIs, that Germans were stubborn, set in their ways,
difficult to comprehend, and just plain dumb. We know of course that the
notion is wrong because of the scientific and philosophical discoveries
Germans have contributed to the world, never mind that many of those
discoveries were by German Jews.
Whenever folks (other than Germans) find themselves at odds with someone
they know to be of German ancestry their thoughts go to the notion of
"Bosch".

For many years after WWII Germans carried a certain amount of guilt because
of what their countrymen had perpetrated. Whenever folks (other than
Germans, and even sometimes Germans), find themselves at odds with a German
(or another German) their thoughts go to "Nazi".
Never mind that not all Germans are "Nazis".
Since the discovery that Muslims carried out the 9/11 terrorist attack and
since the discovery that Al Qaeda terrorists are Muslims there has become,
among some people, a belief that all Muslims are terrorists.
In my previous post I was suggesting that you were one of those "people" who
believed that "All Muslims are Terrorists" i.e., a member of the "All
Muslims are terrorists" club. I don't know whether that's true or
not..........that's why I asked.
If it's logical that "All Muslims are Terrorists" isn't it just as logical
that "all Germans are Nazis"?

Max (who is 1/4 German by ancestry) (and 1/4 Blockheaded)

PS. There are several posters to this NG who have talents that sometimes
tend to make me feel inferior.
But you're not one of them.


Max

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"Bruce S" <bruce...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Now that you mention it, I can easily understand why Carl would object to
someone's snap judgment. {:-)

Max


Carl A. in FL

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Max,

since you sometimes seem to try to pass for an educated man, and in view
of your Alsace-Loraine family history, please note that

1. "Bosch" is a German manufacturer of electrical stuff, known for
superb quality, excellent customer service, and being far superior to
its British counterpart, Lucas.

2. "Boche" is what those questionable pretenders of military bravery
residing west of the Rhine river called the warrior neighbors on their
eastern border (Google is your friend) in the WW I and WW II area. It
is noteworthy that these same namecallers could only triumph after they
suckered those gullible Americans to bail them out -- and they have
shown incredible gratitude ever since.

Max

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"Carl A. in FL" <cha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Please note that:
I own a considerable number of tools manufactured by Bosch. They are among
my favorites. The 2 1/4 HP plunge router made by Bosch is considered by
many woodworkers to have no equal.
Most "quality" fuel injection systems are made by Bosch.
For the new, highly rated, Ford diesel for pick-ups, Ford chose a Bosch
injection system.
But that doesn't alter the fact that American GIs referred to many Germans
as "Bosch" and it wasn't a complimentary term.

> 2. "Boche" is what those questionable pretenders of military bravery
> residing west of the Rhine river called the warrior neighbors on their
> eastern border (Google is your friend) in the WW I and WW II area. It is
> noteworthy that these same namecallers could only triumph after they
> suckered those gullible Americans to bail them out -- and they have shown
> incredible gratitude ever since.

"Those gullible Americans". Thanks, Carl.

Lone Haranguer

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Max wrote:
> "Carl A. in FL" <cha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:00b6ba98$0$27936$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...

>
>> 2. "Boche" is what those questionable pretenders of military bravery
>> residing west of the Rhine river called the warrior neighbors on their
>> eastern border (Google is your friend) in the WW I and WW II area. It
>> is noteworthy that these same namecallers could only triumph after
>> they suckered those gullible Americans to bail them out -- and they
>> have shown incredible gratitude ever since.
>
> "Those gullible Americans". Thanks, Carl.
>
Ever visited our military cemeteries in France, Max? If the dead could
see how France has repaid us for their liberation what would their
verdict be?
Were their lives worth it? I wouldn't like to be the one asking them or
their families.
LZ

Carl A. in FL

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Max wrote:
> "Carl A. in FL" <cha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:00b6ba98$0$27936$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...

>>>
>> Max,
>>
>> since you sometimes seem to try to pass for an educated man, and in
>> view of your Alsace-Loraine family history, please note that
>>
>> 1. "Bosch" is a German manufacturer of electrical stuff, known for
>> superb quality, excellent customer service, and being far superior to
>> its British counterpart, Lucas.
>
> Please note that:
> I own a considerable number of tools manufactured by Bosch. They are
> among my favorites. The 2 1/4 HP plunge router made by Bosch is
> considered by many woodworkers to have no equal.
> Most "quality" fuel injection systems are made by Bosch.
> For the new, highly rated, Ford diesel for pick-ups, Ford chose a Bosch
> injection system.
> But that doesn't alter the fact that American GIs referred to many
> Germans as "Bosch" and it wasn't a complimentary term.

They didn't. They (and their French friends) called them "Boche."
Check Google.

>
>> 2. "Boche" is what those questionable pretenders of military bravery
>> residing west of the Rhine river called the warrior neighbors on their
>> eastern border (Google is your friend) in the WW I and WW II area. It
>> is noteworthy that these same namecallers could only triumph after
>> they suckered those gullible Americans to bail them out -- and they
>> have shown incredible gratitude ever since.
>
> "Those gullible Americans". Thanks, Carl.
>

You're welcome. As the saying goes "Fool me once..."

Max

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No, Linus, I've never visited France. I have no interest in visiting
France.
I don't anticipate acquiring an interest in visiting France.
Some of my ancestors originated in France but the story I've heard is that
they left because of persecution.
They first traveled to Belgium and then spent several generations in
Britain. Becoming dissatisfied with Britain they traveled to America where
most of their progeny served, as far as I can determine, in every military
conflict in which this country has been involved.
Every one of the relatives with which I have, or have had, contact have
expressed a devout allegiance to the USA.
We are not French, German, British, Native American, or whatever other
nationality any of our ancestors were.
We are Americans.

Max

Carl A. in FL

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Max wrote:
.....

> We are not French, German, British, Native American, or whatever other
> nationality any of our ancestors were.
> We are Americans.
>
> Max
>

Good grief, Max, how un-PC of you and yours. (Be proud!)

When I became an American citizen, by choice rather than birth, I
pledged allegiance to one country, and one country only.

That was before the days of legal dual citizenship.

Hunter Hampton

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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:19:24 -0700, "Max" <thesam...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>
>
>No, Linus, I've never visited France. I have no interest in visiting
>France.
>I don't anticipate acquiring an interest in visiting France.

That's your loss Max. France is a beautiful country... Paris is
magnificent.

I see you're not interested in visiting the cemeteries in France, it
seems neither are the French people since they didn't follow Bush into
his stupid unnecessary war on Iraq.

I guess they think their people are too important to risk... I wish
Bush had felt the same.

Hunter

Lone Haranguer

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When did your ancestors move to Canada?

> Every one of the relatives with which I have, or have had, contact have
> expressed a devout allegiance to the USA.
> We are not French, German, British, Native American, or whatever other
> nationality any of our ancestors were.
> We are Americans.
>
> Max
>

All the more reason to visit the American cemeteries of those killed
liberating Europe. Not only France but Belgium and England too.
They are places of historical importance to patriotic Americans.

Personally, I think the majority of the French are embarrassed that
their government caved in to the Germans so easily, that they became
puppets of the Germans and that millions collaborated.

Ick.
LZ

Lone Haranguer

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Hunter Hampton wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:19:24 -0700, "Max" <thesam...@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> No, Linus, I've never visited France. I have no interest in visiting
>> France.
>> I don't anticipate acquiring an interest in visiting France.
>
> That's your loss Max. France is a beautiful country... Paris is
> magnificent.

Too bad it is owned by the French.


>
> I see you're not interested in visiting the cemeteries in France, it
> seems neither are the French people since they didn't follow Bush into
> his stupid unnecessary war on Iraq.

They had a good deal going with Iraq, buying black market oil and
selling Saddam anything he could afford.


>
> I guess they think their people are too important to risk... I wish
> Bush had felt the same.

Their people were too important to risk defending their own country when
the Germans attacked in 1940. Although their Army was larger than
Germany's they surrendered in 6 weeks and started producing was
materials for the Germans.

Not only that but they formed a government of collaboration with the
Germans and fought against us in several locations.

*******************
When the Americans and British landed in several places, including
Casablanca, Oran, Tangiers, and others, the reaction of the French
colonial government was varied. At Oran, the USS Massachusetts fought a
gun duel with the dry-docked French battleship Jean Bart. Jean Bart,
immobile, was crippled by Massachusetts and not repaired until after the
war.

The first major Anglo-American operation of the war was commanded by
Dwight D. Eisenhower form his base at Gibraltar. While it was
successful, months of hard fighting against the Germans remained that
would test both the Anglo-American alliance and the green American
fighting men.

The stiff Vichy resistance cost the Americans 556 killed and 837
wounded. Three hundred British troops and 700 French soldiers were also
killed.
**************************
In Indo-China the Vichy French collaborated with the Japanese occupiers.

I doubt you know much about the history of WWII.
LZ
>
> Hunter

Frank Howell

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Sorry to hear that Max, but I am a proud Neanderthal American with a little
Cro-Magnon on my mothers side.

--
Frank Howell


Max

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Aw, c'mon, Frank, everybody knows that Neanderthal was a different *species*
from Cro Magnon. They didn't share the same bed.
I'm just Homo Sapiens.

Max (does that translate to "Big Sap"?)


Carl A. in FL

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Gee, never thought of you as a homo. Does Toni know?

Frank Howell

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Oh come on Max, you never heard of "A Cro Magnon in the woodpile?"

--
Frank Howell


Max

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LOL. Possible.

Max


Bruce S

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I saw something recently that disputes that opinion. It seems that some
"experts" suspect that Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons may not have been as
different as was once suspected, and may even have 'mated.'

Bruce

Lone Haranguer

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Amazingly, the two species actually overlapped in Europe for a few
thousand years. So did they interbreed? While scientists allow that
there were probably plenty of random matings and hookups, any long-term
interbreeding is unlikely. And while there are many reasons for this,
the simplest are that a) they were probably physically repulsive to each
other, and b) they couldn’t meaningfully communicate. And also c) beer
wasn’t invented yet.
*******************
I can't believe that physical repulsiveness would enter into it after a
lengthy period of deprivation.
LZ

bill horne

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> other, and b) they couldn�t meaningfully communicate. And also c) beer
> wasn�t invented yet.

> *******************
> I can't believe that physical repulsiveness would enter into it after a
> lengthy period of deprivation.
> LZ
>

Particularly not if there were also some fermented persimmons here and
there.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

Lone Haranguer

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>> repulsive to each other, and b) they couldn’t meaningfully
>> communicate. And also c) beer wasn’t invented yet.

>> *******************
>> I can't believe that physical repulsiveness would enter into it after
>> a lengthy period of deprivation.
>> LZ
>>
>
> Particularly not if there were also some fermented persimmons here and
> there.
>
I'm sure blindfolds had been invented.....or moonless nights. I'm sure
both species had similar primitive urges......
LZ

Max

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"Bruce S" wrote
> Max wrote:


>> Aw, c'mon, Frank, everybody knows that Neanderthal was a different
>> *species* from Cro Magnon. They didn't share the same bed.
>> I'm just Homo Sapiens.
>>
>> Max (does that translate to "Big Sap"?)
>
> I saw something recently that disputes that opinion. It seems that some
> "experts" suspect that Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons may not have been as
> different as was once suspected, and may even have 'mated.'
>
> Bruce


I saw something recently that disputed the claim that they mated. You just
can't trust the media anymore. LOL
It would be nice if they had mated. The Neanderthals were reputed to have
bigger brains.
But then everyone would go around saying that they were more Neanderthal
than Cro-Magnon.

Max

Peter Pan

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"Hunter Hampton" <airstrea...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I guess they think their people are too important to risk... I wish
> Bush had felt the same.
>
> Hunter


Didn't like 10,000 of their OWN people die from heat a few summers ago?
guess it's okay to die in their own houses from government incompetence...
odd how you think bushes incompetence bad, but the french govt incompetence
good?

ooops, it was actually upgraded to 14,802 deaths, not a measly 10,000 (usa
today article at
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/2003-09-25-france-heat_x.htm )... isn't
that more deaths than 9/11 or iraq?


Peter Pan

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"Bruce S" <bruce...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I saw something recently that disputes that opinion. It seems that some
> "experts" suspect that Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons may not have been as
> different as was once suspected, and may even have 'mated.'
>
> Bruce
>
>
>


ask almost anyone that hangs out in bars at 2am, many of them have mated
with whatever species is around....

Lone Haranguer

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Yahbut those were mostly old people so their deaths took a big load off
the socialized medicine budget.

In any program run by the government, wouldn't they insure that doctor
vacations were staggered and that they don't all go on vacation at the
same time?

Jenny thinks highly of the French health care system....too bad she
wasn't in France during the heat wave of August 2003.

http://www.questia.com/googleScholar.qst;jsessionid=LLBVfmMGnpxTC03BNLPWGXS0CGTzKPvWS2vtX2QpKCyQDvWQ3DQv!786634028!921627548?docId=5006569197

LZ

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Chuck Norris

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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:07:24 -0700, "Bruce S" <bruce...@gmail.com>
wrote:


>
>I saw something recently that disputes that opinion. It seems that some
>"experts" suspect that Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons may not have been as
>different as was once suspected, and may even have 'mated.'
>
>Bruce
>
>

Lord HawHaw and Hunter?

--

NASCAR: The new Wrestling

Chuck Norris

Chuck Norris

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Kinney says most of them were 2-3 baggers... think Jenny!

Lone Haranguer

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Frank Tabor wrote:
>> other, and b) they couldn’t meaningfully communicate. And also c) beer
>> wasn’t invented yet.

>> *******************
>> I can't believe that physical repulsiveness would enter into it after a
>> lengthy period of deprivation.
>> LZ
>
>
> Last think I watched last week on NatGeo said that no evidence of
> Neanderthal DNA has ever been found in any samples. So the likely hood
> of any lasting in-breeding is very small.
>
>
Maybe they used sausage casings to prevent conception?
LZ

Frank Howell

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Yabut the Cro-Magnon woman was built like a brick shithouse. Opps, is that
an anachronism?

--
Frank Howell


Max

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Brick? More like cinder block. Or pre-stressed concrete.

Max

Max

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"Chuck Norris" <hamgu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Hey, Chuck. We've seen pictures of several of the gang members here. How
about a picture of your handsome countenance?

Max

Peter Pan

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"Lone Haranguer" <linu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Not sure what you mean....
The role of vacations is a touchy subject. The National General
Practitioners Union says that only about 20% of general practitioners were
away during the heat wave.


is 20% on vacation enuf to kill all those folks? does that mean that 80% of
the doctors not on vacation weren't enuf to keep the old folks from kicking
the bucket?

or are you maybe remembering previous stuff that didn't have any numbers?
but where some muckyity-muck ordered an investigation?
(Health Minister Jean-Francois Mattei has ordered a separate special study
this month to look into a possible link with vacation schedules after
doctors strongly denied allegations their absence put the elderly in danger.
The heat wave hit during the August vacation period, when doctors, hospital
staff and many others take leave. The results of that study are expected in
November. )

this was the updated article (a while later, death toll and other details
updated)


Lone Haranguer

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The main point was that putting your trust in government-run health care
is a risky business. Your survival depends on the whim of
a government employee who may or may not give a shit.
LZ

Peter Pan

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"Lone Haranguer" <linu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> The main point was that putting your trust in government-run health care
> is a risky business. Your survival depends on the whim of
> a government employee who may or may not give a shit.
> LZ


yeah, most people with half a brain understand that... thing that blows me
away are the 18% of the people that think it will be better! Makes me wonder
what planet they live on?

Chuck Norris

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>>
>> Last think I watched last week on NatGeo said that no evidence of
>> Neanderthal DNA has ever been found in any samples. So the likely hood
>> of any lasting in-breeding is very small.
>>
>>
>Maybe they used sausage casings to prevent conception?
>LZ


Saran Wrap~

Chuck Norris

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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:22:42 -0700, "Max" <thesam...@sbcglobal.net>
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My face can haunt houses. Some asshole coward (hidden by a fake name)
found a picture of my family and me and has made a number of
disparaging remarks about both. I don't mind the slams about me as I
don't claim to be a speciman but the knocks against my wife and kids
and other family are uncalled for. Of course that is the MO of lib
assholes.

I am sure he will be glad to post it.

I am pretty sure it was the lowest form of life (lower than cromagnon)
the prison guard, lamson.

RAM�

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"Peter Pan" <NotDeadY...@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info> wrote in
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Not "planet" but "plant"... <G>

Lone Haranguer

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Chuck Norris wrote:
>>> Last think I watched last week on NatGeo said that no evidence of
>>> Neanderthal DNA has ever been found in any samples. So the likely hood
>>> of any lasting in-breeding is very small.
>>>
>>>
>> Maybe they used sausage casings to prevent conception?
>> LZ
>
>
> Saran Wrap~

Wasn't on store shelves yet....
LZ

Lone Haranguer

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He lacks the smarts to do that. I'm 99.9% sure it was the Landfill Troll.
LZ

Max

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I have to agree with your assessment of the creature who had to dig so low
to include family members in an insult.
But you made a comment about HawHaw and Hunter that suggested that they
might not be the best looking people on the NG.
I'm not either so I try to refrain from berating others appearance.

Max

Max

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"Max" <thesam...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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In re-reading my post, I realize that I left a loophole.
"I'm not either" seems to suggest that HawHaw, Hunter and I are not the best
looking people. Whether that's true or not it wasn't my intention.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And like some of my Christian friends
like to say, "God don't make no junk".

Max


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