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PaulT

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Nov 15, 2009, 10:57:46 AM11/15/09
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Do freezing temps have any effect on LCD TVs? I can take out the two 19"
TVs
easily, but the large screen would be more of a pain.

Paul
( if this has been discussed before, sorry)


richard

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Nov 15, 2009, 11:24:34 AM11/15/09
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I think that will depend on the location of the storage and long term
conditions.
Most electronics today can withstand prolonged exposure to the extremes.
Unless the temps are gonna maintain below zero I wouldn't worry about it
much. If you can, at least have some heat in the unit once a day.

Ron Recer

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Nov 15, 2009, 12:00:52 PM11/15/09
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"PaulT" <budm...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:0071713b$0$8082$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
I seem to remember that early on plasma and/or LCD TVs had a problem with
cold. I don't remember the specifics and am not sure if it is problem for
recent models. If you don't get the info on here, try googling.

Ron


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Carl A. in FL

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Nov 15, 2009, 12:50:29 PM11/15/09
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I expect Richard to come up with a gadget for winterizing by replacing
the liquid in the LCD with the pink stuff.

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bill horne

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Nov 15, 2009, 2:05:14 PM11/15/09
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My LCD TV manual says:
Operating - 5C-35C (41F to 95F)
Non-operating - -20C-50C (-4F to 122F)

A google indicates some variance among tv's. Check *your* manual.

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Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

Steve Wolf

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Nov 15, 2009, 2:08:38 PM11/15/09
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Hi Paul,

Don't think of the "liquid" in "liquid crystal display" as "water". It
doesn't work that way. Wiki explains why.

LCDs work fine down as low as it goes here in Ohio, to about minus
twenty Fahrenheit. They are in innumerable outdoor things: GPS
systems, instrumentation, etc. Think of the LCD on your instrument
panel in your car or the face of your radio in your car. They work in
the cold. Typically, your appliances are rated to minus forty. Even
then it is unclear why they wouldn't work at lower than that
temperature. If you take a look at a police car, they have a mobile
data computer that is often a simple PC Windows laptop. They power
those up three times a day in sub zero weather. Some units wait and
warm themselves up, like the Toughbooks. Cities that recognize they can
buy five regular laptops for the price of one Toughbook find the weather
to be no factor. At least not when compared to spilling a chocolate
shake on the thing is concerned.

Don't worry about your LCD TV.

Steve
www.wolfswords.com under the motorhome link

Chuck Norris

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Nov 15, 2009, 3:19:08 PM11/15/09
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On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:47:56 -0800, altar nospam <al...@nospam.net>
wrote:

>On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:57:46 -0500, "PaulT" <budm...@verizon.net>
>wrote:

>My Sony, purchased this last summer, says not to store it at temps
>below zero. So, I'm not going to worry about it until then. I have a
>temp sensor in the MH that reports to inside the house. When it gets
>to 10 degrees or so, I'm going to fire up the space heater in the MH
>to keep it above that. Problem solved. But DO unplug it below
>freezing.

Unplug what?

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Steve Barker

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Nov 15, 2009, 11:19:20 PM11/15/09
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I can assure you those truck trailers that bring those things to the
stores are not heated. And they may sit around a freight terminal for
weeks at a time.

s

Neon John

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Nov 15, 2009, 11:57:53 PM11/15/09
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On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:19:20 -0600, Steve Barker
<ichase...@hotmail.com> wrote:


>I can assure you those truck trailers that bring those things to the
>stores are not heated. And they may sit around a freight terminal for
>weeks at a time.

As a former trucker, I can assure you that neither of those assertions
are true. I pulled many a propane heated trailer transporting either
entertainment hardware or pharmaceuticals. The company that I worked
for would have a cow if a revenue-producing asset like a trailer sat
around for a few weeks, especially one filled with cargo. With the
largest customers (Bowatters paper company for example), EMPTY
trailers are queued up for a little while but full trailers rarely sit
for more than 24 hours.

I have no idea whether a modern set would be safe in a sub-freezing
climate other than to say that it has never hurt my GPS unit but I can
put the lie to that line of BS.

John

Steve Barker

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Nov 16, 2009, 11:20:58 PM11/16/09
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you can run your mouth all you want. I stand as stated.

s

Ralph E Lindberg

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:33:21 AM11/23/09
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In article <0071713b$0$8082$c3e...@news.astraweb.com>,
"PaulT" <budm...@verizon.net> wrote:

Yup, and several here have no clue what they are talking about

LCD's can be damaged by sub-zero temps.
One problem occurs if water vapor has gotten into the display (or
certain other components in the unit, be it a TV or computer) . As the
water freezes the expanding action breaks the "item"
Another problem is sub zero temps can also directly damage some
electronics.
Please note, the temps are -generally- sub ZERO, not freezing. Any time
we ship electronics to the REALLY far north they are kept them heated
all the time

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Lone Haranguer

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:38:53 AM11/23/09
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Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
> In article <0071713b$0$8082$c3e...@news.astraweb.com>,
> "PaulT" <budm...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Do freezing temps have any effect on LCD TVs? I can take out the two 19"
>> TVs
>> easily, but the large screen would be more of a pain.
>>
>> Paul
>> ( if this has been discussed before, sorry)
>
> Yup, and several here have no clue what they are talking about
>
> LCD's can be damaged by sub-zero temps.
> One problem occurs if water vapor has gotten into the display (or
> certain other components in the unit, be it a TV or computer) . As the
> water freezes the expanding action breaks the "item"
> Another problem is sub zero temps can also directly damage some
> electronics.
> Please note, the temps are -generally- sub ZERO, not freezing. Any time
> we ship electronics to the REALLY far north they are kept them heated
> all the time
>
My first laptop was bought and delivered to me by my younger brother
when I was marooned in a motel with my knee joint absent.
It had been in the trunk of his car in -30 temperatures for a couple of
days. It took a while for it to warm up and start functioning.
LZ

Propwash

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:29:56 PM11/23/09
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Lone Haranguer wrote:
> .............It had been in the trunk of his car in -30 temperatures for a couple of

> days.  It took a while for it to warm up and start functioning.
> LZ

That's kind of the way I am after being out in the cold! [:0)

Paul

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