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elmer

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Nov 22, 2009, 5:08:13 PM11/22/09
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Senate voted 60-39 to continue the debate on the monster.
Some are already reading that to mean passage.

Lone Haranguer

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Nov 22, 2009, 7:56:25 PM11/22/09
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elmer wrote:
> Senate voted 60-39 to continue the debate on the monster.
> Some are already reading that to mean passage.

We knew that when Reid scheduled a vote. No way would he have taken a
chance if he had not bribed and cajoled the errant sheep back into the fold
so he was guaranteed his 60 votes.

Obama would have been greatly embarrassed and Harry would probably have
had a stroke and not survived.
LZ

The Wiz

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Nov 22, 2009, 8:42:12 PM11/22/09
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That would have been worth a celebration.

Propwash

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:00:41 PM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 2:08 pm, elmer <e...@f.udd> wrote:
> Senate voted 60-39 to continue the debate on the monster.
> Some are already reading that to mean passage.

I guess this is how he got that vote #60 he needed!

http://www.wwltv.com/news/politics/Louisiana-Landrieu-wins-100-million-in-health-care-reform-70634077.html

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/11/the-100-million-health-care-vote.h

Paul

Lone Haranguer

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:06:51 PM11/22/09
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It's always a good idea to keep a couple of bottles of bubbly on hand.
One never knows when an occasion may arise.
LZ

Mike Hendrix

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Nov 22, 2009, 10:08:30 PM11/22/09
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Both political parties are rotten to the core. It would be
interesting to see neither of those politicians vote for the bill and
Louisiana miss out on that $100-million dollars as a result of the
bill not passing.

It might also be interesting if the bill fails because Vitter doesn't
vote for it and Louisiana misses out on that $100 million.

Politics is totally rotten.

mike
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Propwash

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Nov 22, 2009, 11:01:37 PM11/22/09
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Mike Hendrix wrote:
>
> Politics is totally rotten.
>
> mike


Got to agree, Mike. Seems as fast as one rotten politician is voted
out, a new one is voted in. Even if they start out ok, most seem to
turn bad.................kinda like throwing a good apple into a
barrel of rotten ones!

{:0(

Paul

Lone Haranguer

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Nov 22, 2009, 11:43:19 PM11/22/09
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The whole bunch should be sequestered on an island without any fancy
amenities and all communications subject to censorship.
They would get their business done a lot faster and lobbyists couldn't
buy their votes. Each critter would be given $2,000,000 to campaign
with out of
a fund contributed by their home states. Not another dime would be
allowed. No advertising other than what they could buy with their $2
million.
Anyone breaking the rules would be moved to a barren island to meditate
on their crime.

Conjugal visits every other weekend would be my only concession. Booze
would be rationed.
LZ

elmer

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Nov 22, 2009, 11:57:58 PM11/22/09
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I read about some of the antics of Congress Persons, to vote, for this Bill.
Apparently all, of their votes, for a bad bill, can be had if they get
the money, for their favorite special interests.
Whatever the bill is to all American Citizens, they are willing to
triple it, to fill the coffers etc, of their special interests.
I wonder if the newspapers and news services will publish the names of
these bought Congressmen and waiting to be bought Senators?
They need to know that their political future is gone.
Everyone must remember who is doing us and our Children in.
We need health care reform but not this.
Landreau, of Louisiana, is a perfect example of who not to vote for. Her
District may applaud it but the rest, of America, shouldn't give her the
time of day.
Don't vote to reelect any of these, for sale, people.

nothermark

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:05:01 AM11/23/09
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As I recall Landreau was half the reason LA did not get a lot of the
help they wanted after the hurricane. She was playing politics rather
than doing her side of the work. It seemed her theory was we should
just give them money with no questions asked.

Frank Howell

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Nov 23, 2009, 9:45:49 AM11/23/09
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Absolutely on target. Some time ago, politics turned elections into a
bribery contest with each party offering goodies for votes without regards
to affordability. This has always been the danger of a fiat money supply in
that you can create the illusion of having your cake and eating it too.

In most cases, it's like breaking a pinata open only to find the supposed
prizes are tainted with radioactive booby prizes with half lives of 10,000
years.

I used to want to know what's after the number trillion, but now it isn't
important, because if that number is needed it won't matter.

--
Frank Howell


Michael Dobony

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:20:28 AM11/23/09
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:08:13 -0500, elmer wrote:

> Senate voted 60-39 to continue the debate on the monster.
> Some are already reading that to mean passage.

Right now Canadians and many other socialized health care victims are
coming to the US for medical care their nation's governments do not deem
appropriate. Why are we so headstrong in modeling a failed idea?

Lone Haranguer

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:31:29 AM11/23/09
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It's all about controlling people so they keep voting for a party that
will take care of them from cradle to grave.
Just as FDR used the Great Depression to advance his socialist policies
and keep the Democrats in power, Obama and his
crew are using the present crisis (and deliberately making it worse) to
advance their agenda.

Nothing could be more obvious but those who voted for him will never
admit to his motives.
LZ

Carl A. in FL

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:46:31 AM11/23/09
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LZ, did you perchance happen to catch Todd Beamer's father on Fox News
earlier this morning? His characterization of the current "regime" was
incredibly on point. His WSJ article last week also is worth reading.
He's got their number alright...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704888404574547681569546414.html

--
Carl A. in FL
http://sky.prohosting.com/chainfl/index.htm

Lone Haranguer

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:52:14 AM11/23/09
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I saw him during my breakfast news fix.

LZ

Carl A. in FL

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:01:17 AM11/23/09
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You get up earlier than I do :-)

What did you think...will he become a Teabag Party candidate for
Congress? I hope he will.

Lone Haranguer

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:23:56 AM11/23/09
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Carl A. in FL wrote:
> Lone Haranguer wrote:
>> Carl A. in FL wrote:
>
>>>
>>> LZ, did you perchance happen to catch Todd Beamer's father on Fox
>>> News earlier this morning? His characterization of the current
>>> "regime" was incredibly on point. His WSJ article last week also is
>>> worth reading. He's got their number alright...
>>>
>>> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704888404574547681569546414.html
>>
>>
>>
>> I saw him during my breakfast news fix.
>>
>> LZ
>
> You get up earlier than I do :-)
>
> What did you think...will he become a Teabag Party candidate for
> Congress? I hope he will.
>
He makes a lot more sense than most of Obama's appointees. Did you
watch Holder's appearance last week? Another empty suit, completely out
of his intellectual depth and motivated only by his personal agenda.

Obama's appointees do not have the nation's welfare at heart. They act
like corrupt custodians in charge of an orphanage.
LZ

Carl A. in FL

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:49:08 PM11/23/09
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Well, as Mr. Beamer so aptly wished us -- may we have happier
Thanksgivings after regime changes in 2010 ans 2012

bill horne

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:11:52 PM11/23/09
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And I guess they don't think that global warming is as important as
they've been telling us.
----------------------------------------------------------
WASHINGTON � President Barack Obama will decide "in the coming days"
whether to attend a United Nations climate change summit in Copenhagen
in December, a senior administration official said Monday.
...
Obama is already scheduled to be close to Copenhagen on December 10,
when he will visit nearby Oslo to receive his Nobel Peace Prize.
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5h2wY7U7IBajOgL9JhbTr5Fweb0wA

Doesn't know if he's going to attend a UN climate change summit of
world leaders, but he's sure as hell going to go pick up his prize.

Back in 2008, I developed expectations of him, and he's doing a fine
job of meeting them - the suit remains as empty as it was then.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

Carl A. in FL

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:38:53 PM11/23/09
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bill horne wrote:

>
> Doesn't know if he's going to attend a UN climate change summit of world
> leaders, but he's sure as hell going to go pick up his prize.
>
> Back in 2008, I developed expectations of him, and he's doing a fine job
> of meeting them - the suit remains as empty as it was then.
>

Yep, so true.

The worst part of all this is that the world he is creating is so shitty
that there is absolutely no satisfaction in saying "I told you so."

I wonder whether Giddings is reconsidering his advocacy.

Also wonder how he feels about the intellectual dishonesty of his
favorite newspaper, the New York Times, who now claims the moral high
ground and not publish the hacked climate non-change e-mails -- while
having no qualms about betraying national secrets at every opportunity.

Lone Haranguer

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:50:57 PM11/23/09
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bill horne wrote:
> Lone Haranguer wrote:
>> Carl A. in FL wrote:
>>> Lone Haranguer wrote:
>>>> Carl A. in FL wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> LZ, did you perchance happen to catch Todd Beamer's father on Fox
>>>>> News earlier this morning? His characterization of the current
>>>>> "regime" was incredibly on point. His WSJ article last week also
>>>>> is worth reading. He's got their number alright...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704888404574547681569546414.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I saw him during my breakfast news fix.
>>>>
>>>> LZ
>>>
>>> You get up earlier than I do :-)
>>>
>>> What did you think...will he become a Teabag Party candidate for
>>> Congress? I hope he will.
>>>
>> He makes a lot more sense than most of Obama's appointees. Did you
>> watch Holder's appearance last week? Another empty suit, completely
>> out of his intellectual depth and motivated only by his personal agenda.
>>
>> Obama's appointees do not have the nation's welfare at heart. They
>> act like corrupt custodians in charge of an orphanage.
>> LZ
>
> And I guess they don't think that global warming is as important as
> they've been telling us.
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama will decide "in the coming days"
> whether to attend a United Nations climate change summit in Copenhagen
> in December, a senior administration official said Monday.
> ...
> Obama is already scheduled to be close to Copenhagen on December 10,
> when he will visit nearby Oslo to receive his Nobel Peace Prize.
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5h2wY7U7IBajOgL9JhbTr5Fweb0wA
>
>
> Doesn't know if he's going to attend a UN climate change summit of world
> leaders, but he's sure as hell going to go pick up his prize.
>
> Back in 2008, I developed expectations of him, and he's doing a fine job
> of meeting them - the suit remains as empty as it was then.
>
Just like Clinton, I made my judgment a few minutes after he appeared on
my TV screen. I haven't had occasion to revise either judgment.
LZ

Chuck Norris

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:22:59 PM11/23/09
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:08:13 -0500, elmer <e...@f.udd> wrote:

>Senate voted 60-39 to continue the debate on the monster.
>Some are already reading that to mean passage.

Tonite a bunch of dems announced they would NEVER vote for it to pass.
They are pro/anti abortion and a couple that understand the $$
ramifications. And of course the few wanting a public option.
--

NASCAR: The new Wrestling

Chuck Norris

Chuck Norris

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:25:08 PM11/23/09
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:42:12 -0700, The Wiz <anyw...@nowhere.net>
wrote:

And I will drive to Nevada and piss on that bastard's grave.... If I
can stand to wait in line that long.

Chuck Norris

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:26:14 PM11/23/09
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:00:41 -0800 (PST), Propwash
<prop...@cheneycable.com> wrote:

She refused to settle for less than 300M.

Whore.

Chuck Norris

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:29:48 PM11/23/09
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They don't need conjugal visits. Ther are enough Dem/Lib whores in
congress to supply all the "lip service" the dems need!

Lone Haranguer

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:29:43 PM11/23/09
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Chuck Norris wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:08:13 -0500, elmer <e...@f.udd> wrote:
>
>> Senate voted 60-39 to continue the debate on the monster.
>> Some are already reading that to mean passage.
>
> Tonite a bunch of dems announced they would NEVER vote for it to pass.
> They are pro/anti abortion and a couple that understand the $$
> ramifications. And of course the few wanting a public option.

You can't trust the bastards. They will drop anything required to get
passage and then add it later bit by bit or have a bureaucrat interpret the
bill as they see fit. Naturally they wrote a bill asking for twice what
they hope to achieve and then laugh all the way home as they make
"concessions"
they never expected to get in the first place.

Reminds me of my Army supply budget. Figure out what you need, double
it and submit it. You get half of what you asked for which is exactly
what you
planned for.
LZ

Lone Haranguer

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:32:13 PM11/23/09
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Chuck Norris wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:00:41 -0800 (PST), Propwash
> <prop...@cheneycable.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 22, 2:08Â pm, elmer <e...@f.udd> wrote:
>>> Senate voted 60-39 to continue the debate on the monster.
>>> Some are already reading that to mean passage.
>>
>>
>> I guess this is how he got that vote #60 he needed!
>>
>> http://www.wwltv.com/news/politics/Louisiana-Landrieu-wins-100-million-in-health-care-reform-70634077.html
>>
>> http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/11/the-100-million-health-care-vote.h
>>
>> Paul
>
> She refused to settle for less than 300M.
>
> Whore.

$300 million buys a lot of votes. Probably about 3 times as many as the
original $100 million bribe.....errr disaster assistance funding.
LZ

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Chuck Norris

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Nov 23, 2009, 7:55:40 PM11/23/09
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:57:58 -0500, elmer <e...@f.udd> wrote:


Your, use, of, commas, is. very, distracting, and, makes, your, posts,
very hard, to, understand.

elmer

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Nov 23, 2009, 10:39:06 PM11/23/09
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Oh uh you noticed/

elmer

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:02:54 PM11/23/09
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I have a bad habit of typing of typing and not hitting all the keys with
enough force to record it. I'm too lazy to proof read it most times.

Chuck Norris

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Nov 24, 2009, 4:25:20 PM11/24/09
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:39:06 -0500, elmer <e...@f.udd> wrote:

>Chuck Norris wrote:
>>
>> Your, use, of, commas, is. very, distracting, and, makes, your, posts,
>> very hard, to, understand.
>>
>Oh uh you noticed/

Yes, but you are now Killfiled!

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