BEST LOOP KNOT FOR FLUOROCARBON Leader?

Jay

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Aug 31, 2004, 7:59:36 AM8/31/04

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If you want a loop knot for jigging action, which knot gives the best knot strength?

1) Homer Rhodes
2) Mirrolure
3) No Slip Loop Knot
4) Any other of your choice??

Jay

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Aug 31, 2004, 8:43:50 AM8/31/04

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Jay wrote:
> If you want a loop knot for jigging action, which knot gives the best knot strength?
>

> 3) No Slip Loop Knot

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David H. Lipman

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Aug 31, 2004, 5:32:33 PM8/31/04

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Neither, the Palomar knot ;-)

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Sierra fisher

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Aug 31, 2004, 6:04:54 PM8/31/04

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Rio Products stated on their web site that the water knot, a four turn
surgeon's knot, was the best. they stated that they did extensive testing
but they did not sya waht other knots were inthe competiton.

further, I don't think that the Palomar knot is a loop knot. Doesn't it
slip closed?

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Jerry

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Aug 31, 2004, 8:13:47 PM8/31/04

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Sierra fisher wrote:
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> further, I don't think that the Palomar knot is a loop knot. Doesn't it
> slip closed?
>

Correct, the Palomar knot is not a loop knot and does not apply to the
question asked.

Jerry

David H. Lipman

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Aug 31, 2004, 8:35:55 PM8/31/04

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Yeah I know, but it is the best knot ! ;-)

Dave

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Wolfgang

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> If you want a loop knot for jigging action, which knot gives the best knot
strength?

> 4) Y

Wolfgang

joe

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Sep 4, 2004, 10:35:18 AM9/4/04

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In article <a9e611d8.04083...@posting.google.com>,
jay...@yahoo.com (Jay) wrote:

If your leader is significantly higher test than your running line there
is no reason not to use the Homer Rhodes. It is reported to break below
the line test (80 percent as I recall, 70?) but if still above your
running line should pose no problem.

It is quick and easy to tie.

I have never had it fail on the flats with large reds or snook using 8 -
10 pound line and 20 - 40 pound leader.

good fishin'

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Bob La Londe

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Sep 5, 2004, 11:50:28 AM9/5/04

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Maybe I'm not doing it right, but I used a palomar knot for everything for a
year. I had some breakoffs I didn't like. At first I attributed it to
experimenting with different lines, but I switched back to the trilene knot
I have used for over 20 years and my break offs were reduced substantially.
The one thing I do when tying a trilene knot is give it a full seven twists.

As to the original question... I use duolocks on those rigs that I want to
have a freerer action like crank baits and topwaters.

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David H. Lipman

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Sep 5, 2004, 1:31:20 PM9/5/04

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Interesting Bob.

I don't use Trilene line nor do I use or know that knot. I'll have to look it up.

I use Stren line and I use camouflaged leader material. Often, it is what one knows best
that is truly the best -- for that person.

Dave

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David H. Lipman

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I see, the Trilene knot looks like a modified Snell where the line-wraps are around the line
instead of around the shank.

What I see is that it goes through the eye twice, like the Palomar knot, so it has lower
chance of breaking at the eye like the Palomar.

Dave

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Bob La Londe

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Sep 5, 2004, 11:48:01 PM9/5/04

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Yup. Personally I have had better luck with the Trilene knot than the
palomar knot. I don't know why. I tie my knots very carefully. I have had
a number of peopel tell me they think the palomar is stronger, and I have
read a couple reviews that seem to indicate the same, but I still have
fewere break offs at much higher tension to break off with a Trilene knot
than with a palomar knot.

The only thing I do different is give seven wraps with it. Most folks use
around 5 wraps.

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On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 08:50:28 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
<use...@diycomponents.com> wrote:

>Maybe I'm not doing it right, but I used a palomar knot for everything for a
>year. I had some breakoffs I didn't like. At first I attributed it to
>experimenting with different lines, but I switched back to the trilene knot
>I have used for over 20 years and my break offs were reduced substantially.
>The one thing I do when tying a trilene knot is give it a full seven twists.

One thing that I've noticed about the Palomar is that it is
very easy not to seat it completely.