OT - Voting record .. a question for you well informed politics arguers
Larry L
care has reminded me of my own representative's lack of apparent
interest in anyone around here but his big money, developer, donors.
I don't honestly think he gives a fuck about any of his other
constituents.
For years Pombo, in the neighboring district ( I've less than a mile
from the line and it always made me mad I couldn't vote against
Pombo ), was the worst example of political criminal in NorCal and,
tellingly, GR would venture outside of party lockstep to vote for
his buddies, self serving, legislation (undermining environmental
protection). Other than that, I don't think GR as ever found the
"needs of his district" to be anything but what the party leaders tell
him.
Now that Pombo is gone ;-), GR is starting to be the biggest PIA
around these parts, politically speaking.
In spite of knowing it was hopeless, I've called his office several
times lately urging support of health care reform and environmental
issues. Bare minimum, I'd like to see some sign of participation
beyond lining up for photo-ops to shout 'no' or 'boycotting' meetings
( some participation ! ) I don't really expect him to support MY
ideals, but some indication of at least listening to "real
people" ( defined as less than multi-millionaires ) in his district
would be nice. Voting "your conscience" does NOT equate to "voting
like Larry wants" and I know that. But, it sure as hell ain't "voting
like the repuglican bosses tell me," either
My question, .... any web sites that provide easy to digest ( I ain't
the sharpest bulb in the drawer ) voting records ? Ideally I'd like
an easy way to find out IF, and on what, GR has ever shown any
independence from 'party line' I'm toying with the idea of writing
the local paper and would like some specific facts to mention.
Frank Reid © 2008
Seems he's voted within party lines 100% of the time this year.
Previous years may differ.
Frank Reid
Frank Reid © 2008
Went further. Other than honoring the yankees and confucious, he's a
party hack and a half.
Frank Reid
(have fun, very cool database)
brians
Hi Larry
This should help answer your questions about Ca politics....or
politics in general. No surprises.
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/111/states/ca/
brians
rdean3...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
>Cao's brave move, out of sync with the Repuglican Lock Step,on health
>care has reminded me of my own representative's lack of apparent
>interest in anyone around here but his big money, developer, donors.
>I don't honestly think he gives a fuck about any of his other
>constituents.
FWIW, Cao is the Rep for New Orleans, and he did what he did in an attempt to
secure more Fed money for his district. I'll leave it to others to decide
"brave," but I will allow that, at least in part, it was to benefit his district
(and from what I know, he's a pretty stand-up guy, and he was pretty clear about
why he voted as he did - it had little to do with the bill, good, bad, or
indifferent, although as a devout Catholic, he was and is against abortion, esp.
Fed funded).
And I suspect that the GOP leaders really didn't care as his vote didn't matter
insofar as passing or failing. You'll note there has been very little "to-do"
about it from any source. Bottom line is, that at the end of the day, pols
understand this type of vote and realize that they will likely be in the same
situation one day (or at least they hope they will be around long enough to
be...). Simply, the GOP didn't lose anything, and Cao potentially gained
something, so he gets a hall pass. On top of which, I suspect that many voted
yea knowing that the Senate, including Dems, would make the vote effectively
meaningless anyway.
HTH,
R
Giles
Would it be asking too much to suggest that you provide the barest
minumum of a hint or suggestion as to who or what the fuck you are
blithering about?
g.
who supposes that it most certainly would.
Giles
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:00:48 -0800 (PST), Larry L <larry.linthi...@gmail.com>
Idiot.
g.
Giles
Moron.
g.
David LaCourse
> Cao's brave move,
Horse kaka. Nothing brave about it. His vote was #219, one over the
number needed to pass. No bravery here, Larry. He did it because he
represents a Democrap district in NO. He did it for his people. Pure
and simple, and I am sure the gop can shiv a git about it.
Giles
> On 2009-11-10 17:00:48 -0500, Larry L <larry.linthi...@gmail.com> said:
>
> > Cao's brave move,
>
> Horse kaka. Nothing brave about it. His vote was #219, one over the
> number needed to pass. No bravery here, Larry. He did it because he
> represents a Democrap district in NO. He did it for his people. Pure
> and simple, and I am sure the gop can shiv a git about it.
Idiot.
Pig.
g.
rdean3...@bellsouth.net
According to the site you cited, he has voted with the GOP 93.4% this Congress -
I didn't see anything about "this year." Also, according to the site, the only
"100%" voters are 4 Dems. And if you consider the percentage of voting with the
party to be a (the?) sign of "party hack-ism," the upper tiers are literally all
Dem - you've got to scroll down a fair bit to find GOP members, and even then,
it's sparse until you get into the mid-to-low 90s (where you start finding
moderate and conservative Dems as well, as well as those in "at risk"
districts).
I'd offer that given the bloated size of many bills, relying on party info is to
a large extent a necessity. Not exactly picking on Pelosi with this as the GOP
pulls similar (although she did pointedly NOT allow public posting, etc.), but
the "health care" bill is a perfect example - 2000 pages, a rushed late-night
weekend vote on a controversial, complex issue that damned few in or out of
Congress really understand, etc., all add up to folks more-or-less "toeing the
party line." And if you're serious about wanting REAL health-care reform, you
need to be bitching more at Dems than the GOP as long as they are in control
(and whenever it shifts again, and it will, that is when you need to bitch at
the GOP) - this thing in the House was little more than a political stunt in
which both parties participated - they knew damned well that the Senate wasn't
gonna let this mess through, so everyone got 'em a little something to talk
about back at home, and as per usual, nothing too hard or controversial actually
has to be done.
HTH,
R
David LaCourse
> On Nov 10, 8:41�pm, David LaCourse <dplacou...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On 2009-11-10 17:00:48 -0500, Larry L <larry.linthi...@gmail.com> said:
>>
>>> Cao's brave move,
>>
>> Horse kaka. �Nothing brave about it. �His vote was #219, one over the
>> number needed to pass. �No bravery here, Larry. �He did it because he
>> represents a Democrap district in NO. �He did it for his people. �Pur
> e
>> and simple, and I am sure the gop can shiv a git about it.
>
> Idiot.
>
> Pig.
>
> g.
One trick pony.
Poopy breath.
Davey
Giles
> (and whenever it shifts again, and it will, that is when you need to bitch at
> the GOP)
We'll follow your lead.
Cracker moron.
g.