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Steve Doire

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Sep 17, 2001, 8:37:26 PM9/17/01
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I fish 3 types of ponds in Massachusetts - water color wise. One is crystal
clear, the next tanic stained, the a last very fertile green color.

I need some advice on worm color - if there is any standard to start from.
The green colored water has a visibility of about a foot - I'm wondering how
a bass can see a worm in it. I fished it the other day and started off with
florousent green - no bited. Switched to dark red - no bites. Dark brown
finally got me some fish including a 4lb'er.

Finally any luck with those glass rattle inserts in worms?

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Steve Burison

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Sep 17, 2001, 9:11:54 PM9/17/01
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Steve
Can't address the green stained lake. Don't fish one like that.

For the other two here are some of the colors I've had luck with.

PS size may also matter, for the visibility. ;-)


Bluegill - 7"worm and 5"senko color
Blue/purple - worm and senko color, also 31/2" tube texas rigged.
Black (5" grub on leadhead)
Clear with silver flecks - 5" grub on leadhead
Clear with salt and pepper flecks.
Light brown - yamamoto big ika texas rigged., also jig with twin tail grub

Got a good 22" + bass last monday nite on a c-rig tube. Great fight on a
spinning rig with 10 lb. test line right after dark. With the events that
followed on Tuesday morning I didn't feel like writing about my fishing
success.

My guess is that the bass are chasing shad and minnow baits that are moving
fast or are being fooled by slow moving plastics in darker colors.

steve

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Warren Funk

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Sep 18, 2001, 12:29:39 AM9/18/01
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Steve, in the heavily stained water, bass are going to locate a worm more by
sound waves than by sight. Try the worms with collars, curly tails, even
the old style with props in the front; or add the rattles--anything to make
noise or create a sonic signature to the location of your worm.

Warren1

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Richard

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Sep 18, 2001, 7:48:07 AM9/18/01
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:37:26 GMT, "Steve Doire" <steve...@mail.com>
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>The green colored water has a visibility of about a foot - I'm wondering how

>a bass can see a worm in it............

A foot! That is clear water to a bass, well almost. Most of our
ponds have 3 to 8" visibility in them. They see a lot better than we
do. I would use a bulkier worm like a ring worm or robo worm and go
with a chartreuse tail or dye your own. Watermelon seed brush hogs
with the back end dipped in chartreuse dye, there's the ticket.
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Richard
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Dan

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Sep 18, 2001, 2:36:41 PM9/18/01
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Probably the wrong question being asked here but it is the most common one.
The color worm you are throwing is much less important than
depth, speed, and size. Water with less visability allows for larger baits
and usually the fish are
tighter to cover to help hold position.

That being said, here are some general color guidelines.

Black grape by Robo worms is about the best color ever made. A dark grape
color with a blue neon vein. Never found a place it didn't catch bass. Some
colors may be better locally or at other times but that color is really my
reference point in starting to look for a worm bite in tourneys. If I can't
get bit on that, there probably isn't a worthwhile worm bite going. Black
grape is best in clear water during low light periods. In that green water
it will work all day long. The tannic water will work cast to the shady
pockets.

For clear water here are some others; salt & pepper, watermelon,
pumpkinseed, green weenie, and cinnamon/blue neon. Use smaller baits and
play with the speed. Sometimes they may want it very fast or on the fall.
Other times you have to almost dead stick it.

For the green water, look at the black grape, tequilla sunrise, junebug,
pumpkin pepper or watermelon. A tail dipped in Chartreuse can deffinitely
help.

For the tannic water, try Witch's tit, red craw, junebug, black, or orange
craw. Again a touch of chartreuse can be the ticket here too.

The clear water colors will work just about anywhere. If I had to pick
colors I had to rely on anywhere, (and I do) they would include
Salt and pepper, both a light and dark version, smoke sparkle, Black grape,
watermelon, pumpkinseed, and black. Throw in a few Junebug, witch's tit, and
red craw and I am ready for anything.

Dan

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RichZ

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Sep 18, 2001, 6:34:06 PM9/18/01
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Dan wrote:
> A dark grape
> color with a blue neon vein. Never found a place it didn't catch bass
>
I have yet to find a place that a plain old grape or black grape worm won't
catch 'em for that matter.

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Steve Doire

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Sep 18, 2001, 7:58:32 PM9/18/01
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Thanks for the thoughts. Purple/Grape has traditionally been a favorite for
me as many of you have indicated.

The day I fished the green water I was purposely trying to land it with a
splash along the banks to stir up some bass. It was just such a cast that
got me the 4lb'er.

I thought about adding a spinner to the work like the original Creme worms
(my 5yr old fishes these - with some success). Not sure how it will effect
the action of a Senko (my worm of choice).

Finally, I got a bag of chartreuse Senkos with black. Never had much luck
with this color in the past with non-Senkos but was hoping a Senko might
change that. After investing about 2 hours on that color without a nibble I
moved on. Anyone have any luck with any chartreuse worm?


Dan

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. Anyone have any luck with any chartreuse worm?


You mean like in the spring?
When they are bedding?

No never, don't even try it, it won't work!!!

<G>

Dan


Dan

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Sep 18, 2001, 9:29:51 PM9/18/01
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Yup!
But these Robo worms? They go to eleven! :-)

Apologies to anyone unfamiliar with Spinal Tap.

Dan


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Brad C.

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Sep 18, 2001, 9:31:32 PM9/18/01
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In clear to slightly stained water I like to try to match the color of the
bottom and keep the bait camoflaged. Rocks, sand, clay, etc. require smokes,
blacks and various shades of pumpkins. Weedy areas bring out the green baits.
If I wanta slight contrast, I will use the same colors, but with some flake in
them, like pumpkin/green flake or watermelon/red flake.

In more stained water, I like to go to darker colors, colors with lots of metal
flakes or bright colors such as black/blue flake, junebug or red shad. Adding
some chartreuse to the tail works many times as well.

Muddy water requires a dark or bright color and one that moves water as well.
Solid black or some bright color like chartreuse.

Of course, a baitfish pattern means plastics in different patterns of whites.

These are what works for me, but of course sometimes the "rules" make no sense,
like when you catch bass on a bright chartreuse worm in crystal clear water
with blue skys.

Just my plastic color rules for my fishing.

Brad

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