Nalgene bottles & BPA - new bottles announced
ps56k
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> FYI - here's the Nalgene webpage link -
> http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/technical/bpaInfo.html
and now the latest - new bottles -
http://www.nalgenechoice.com/everyday.html
ps56k
anyone seen the new bottles yet ?
y_p_w
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> > and now the latest - new bottles -
> >http://www.nalgenechoice.com/everyday.html
>
> anyone seen the new bottles yet ?
Not yet. I have seen Camelbak's latest "Better Bottle" with clear
labeling that says their material is "BPA Free". I believe this is
made from the same Tritan Colpolymer plastic from Eastman Chemical.
Nalgene says they'll be available this month, but it remains to be
seen what kind of rollout they can achieve.
My Nalgene flask is made of pthalate-free PETE. I was going to use it
to ferry my Scotch into the backcountry last summer. It fit nicely
into my bear canister, but I decided against it after I overloaded it.
d.s.
> On Apr 23, 10:43 am, "ps56k" <pschuman_no_spam...@interserv.com>
> wrote:
>
> > > and now the latest - new bottles -
> > >http://www.nalgenechoice.com/everyday.html
>
> > anyone seen the new bottles yet ?
>
> Not yet. I have seen Camelbak's latest "Better Bottle" with clear
> labeling that says their material is "BPA Free". I believe this is
> made from the same Tritan Colpolymer plastic from Eastman Chemical.
I opened up one of these and took a whiff. It might not be leaching
BPA, but it sure is off-gassing SOMETHING.
Get Klean Kanteen, and leave your shoes at home to compensate for the
weight. ;-)
y_p_w
What doesn't, other than quality polycarbonate or PETE? Any kind of
polyethylene smells funky when new. Even new stainless steel smells
"metallic".
I guess the worries about stainless steel is nickel toxicity if you're
using it to store water.
kinograph
softer than the bpa, but the reason i didn't buy one is that the screw-
top has a spout on it, the pull-off cap of which looks like it may
leak. also, they're 800 ml, which i guess is the equivalent of about
27.5 oz, slightly smaller than the large-size bpa models.
y_p_w
> rei has them in san francisco. i glanced at them briefly. they're
> softer than the bpa, but the reason i didn't buy one is that the screw-
> top has a spout on it, the pull-off cap of which looks like it may
> leak. also, they're 800 ml, which i guess is the equivalent of about
They're supposed to be transitioning to this material for all their
bottles. I guess they were planning on starting a slow launch, but
are being forced into this by all the bad publicity from the US and
Canadian government reports.
I'll wait until they have the standard sized loop-top bottles. That's
when I know this is a legitimate rollout.
m...@privacy.net
>I'll wait until they have the standard sized loop-top bottles. That's
>when I know this is a legitimate rollout.
how so?
y_p_w
Their biggest seller and the product that made Nalgene Outdoor was/is
the 1 liter wide-mouth loop-top bottle. Their 1 liter narrow-mouth
bottles can't be far behind.
I'm not sure they were looking to roll it out this fast. I get the
feeling that they simply trying to ramp up the use of the Tritan
Copolymer material slowly. Then the US FDA came out with a report,
followed by the Canadian government's moves to ban the use of
polycarbonate baby bottles. It kind of forced their hands because of
all the negative publicity, and I don't think they're currently ready
to deploy this new material across all their product lines.
Trish
for adults, the but them back on the shelves. Really!
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MANchelle
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> I opened up one of these and took a whiff. It might not be leaching
> BPA, but it sure is off-gassing SOMETHING.
>
Sorry, I was with my new GF shopping there, and when I felt a broccoli fart
coming on I just grabbed a bottle and let go with "something".
Again, my sincere apology
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y_p_w
Just saw some of the Nalgene "Everyday" bottles at the REI store in
Berkeley, CA. They've completely cleared out their inventory of the
polycarbonate bottles. They had some of the new Nalgene bottles, and
I agree they smell kind of funky new. Different than maybe a new HDPE
bottle, which has a different odor.
It flexed a lot. Don't know how to describe it other than it felt
like a very hard PETE bottle. I've got a (phthalate-free) Nalgene
flask made of PETE, and the material seems similar. I'm just
wondering if pure PETE might be an alternative. The main worry I hear
about regular PETE is that it contains phthalates to keep the material
softer.
kinograph
www.camelbak.com
Standard form, wide-mouth, quite hard.
They look quite nice, with regular seal and bite-valve models.
Same price as the older Nalgene ones.
m...@privacy.net
GregS
I know one thing, you can't make good soup in a stainless pot. Got to be Ceramic.
greg
PatOConnell
I bought two Nalgene polyethylene bottles from REI, to replace ones that
were getting old. New plastic always smells a bit funky, but dish soap
and water fixes things.
y_p_w
> y_p_wwrote:
The great thing about polycarbonate was that it just didn't have a
discernible odor or impart any plastic taste when new or old. I was
used to using LDPE squirt-tops from my my bicycling days, and I could
still smell the odor (and taste it in the water) for a long time.
d.s.
> In article <e9a124hi3bljpg1a597scitgqdat3u1...@4ax.com>, m...@privacy.net wrote:
> >kinograph <kinogr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>Just picked up a few new 32-oz BPA-free Camelbak bottles.
> >>www.camelbak.com
> >>Standard form, wide-mouth, quite hard.
> >>They look quite nice, with regular seal and bite-valve models.
> >>Same price as the older Nalgene ones.
>
> > what abt the stainless steel bottles?
>
> I know one thing, you can't make good soup in a stainless pot. Got to be Ceramic.
>
> greg
Why?
GregS
>On May 6, 12:24=A0pm, zekfr...@zekfrivolous.com (GregS) wrote:
>> In article <e9a124hi3bljpg1a597scitgqdat3u1...@4ax.com>, m...@privacy.net =
>wrote:
>> >kinograph <kinogr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>Just picked up a few new 32-oz BPA-free Camelbak bottles.
>> >>www.camelbak.com
>> >>Standard form, wide-mouth, quite hard.
>> >>They look quite nice, with regular seal and bite-valve models.
>> >>Same price as the older Nalgene ones.
>>
>> > what abt the stainless steel bottles?
>>
>eramic.
>>
>> greg
>
>Why?
It does not taste as good as ceramic. My family used to make the Sunday chicken soup in
the morning and its was cooking with all the whole potatoes, onions, celery, chicken, etc,
fo a couple hours, and then the soup sat in the pot all day till it was finished. Metal
pots don't taste as good. From experiance.
greg
GregS
>> In article <e9a124hi3bljpg1a597scitgqdat3u1...@4ax.com>, m...@privacy.net =
>wrote:
>> >kinograph <kinogr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>Just picked up a few new 32-oz BPA-free Camelbak bottles.
>> >>www.camelbak.com
>> >>Standard form, wide-mouth, quite hard.
>> >>They look quite nice, with regular seal and bite-valve models.
>> >>Same price as the older Nalgene ones.
>>
>> > what abt the stainless steel bottles?
>>
>eramic.
>>
>> greg
I got this stainless flask for a present. It says do not leave stuff in it
too long. Well I drank the Vodka in a day. I do have a stainless thermos, but I have never
used it.
greg
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I cook on stainless steel all the time at the house. I put the food in a
ceramic bowl when I am finished digesting.
GregS
I use mostly stainless, but for vegatables I like the old Corning Ware ceramic,
especially for microwaving. The top on steams the veggies, corn on the cob, or hot dogs
real well. I do have some small ceramic pots, and the big one my folks used to make soup
in. Of course we have the real big ceramic coated pot we make the sour crout and Kolbosi,
or cabbage rolls in.
greg
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Thanks for sharing.
y_p_w
> Since they anounced that the bottles only leak a little, and a little is ok
> for adults, the but them back on the shelves. Really!
>
> "y_p_w" <y_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > On Apr 25, 10:32 am, m...@privacy.net wrote:
> > > y_p_w<y_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >I'll wait until they have the standard sized loop-top bottles. That's
> > > >when I know this is a legitimate rollout.
>
> > > how so?
>
> > the 1 liter wide-mouth loop-top bottle. Their 1 liter narrow-mouth
> > bottles can't be far behind.
It's available in stores - don't know exactly when it came out.
Pricey too. My local REI has the 1L wide-mouth loop-top "Everyday"
bottles for $9.95.
PatOConnell
The polyethylene Nalgene bottles never had BPA in them, and were never
pulled off shelves, except by people who wanted to replace their
polycarbonate bottles. I bought two polyethylene bottles just like ypw
is describing, at REI about a week after the BPA announcement.
y_p_w
I never particularly liked polyethylene bottles - HDPE or LDPE. New
ones have a certain smell to them, and they don't take well to heat.
They're still using polycarbonate in their flasks, but those use a
(pthalate-free) PETE liner.
I believe Nalgene is still making polycarbonate bottles for use as
labware.
They're no regulation banning BPA-containing plastics in the US. I
still see plenty of water filtration products using PC. If I'm not
mistaken, those 5 gallon water bottles used by water delivery services
still use PC.