It is observed that many are now aligning with Peter Riden's views of nude socializing
Peter Riden
that I've long been right in what reality should permeates when it
comes to nude socializing.
"This is just like how sexualized social nudity places and
nonsexualized sexualized places have Social Nudity in common, but the
fact that one is sexualized and one is nonsexualized is quite a
difference indeed.
Many like Peter Riden share a belief common with many textiles that
social nudity can't be nonsexualized."
And as often repeated by my friend John Simmons... "it was the
comos...cypress cove and other aanr clubs that were the vocal folks on
the non sexual..issue.....and of course Peter Riden never said it was
non sexual...."
".i have concluded that SIR PETER RIDEN.....that offers no excuses or
pretenses for the sexual adventures that folks might seek out...and
advocates natural human responses not be suppressed.....is the true
honorable character of a business owner oriented towards sexuality and
all it fixtures...."
In a fully functional society, I always said that circumstances
prevailing... to negate the possibility of natural possible
attractiveness between consenting adults in a nudity-permitted
environment is a flagrant fallacy. Not that one needs to be obsessed
with such eventualities but able to recognize such eventualities can/
will take place.
That's why we treat our adults as such at THE GRAND BARN and that our
few enemies are enemies of common sense.
So if you also share the above... come and join us for another
interesting upcoming year at THE GRAND BARN..;-)
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Zee
well PETER .....man does repond to the most important factor of
selection.....selection of ones past time is determined by the DOLLAR
EFFECT.....if one is submerged into the family ideaology of going
naked publicly....one must know there is an issue that is fickle about
this arrangement and that it is the family itself....families do come
and go but the basic eventualities of mans sex drive does seem to live
on.....and any breakdown of the original family nakedness arrangement
is quickly measured and noted up at the cash register...even ol Tony
knows that......so there will always be the family arrangement but i
think the porn evolvement that is taking place now because the
internet is revealing what the individual is demanding and the big
time corps are losing it....sorta like hollywood is suffereing also
because of ...iFC ....channel 250.....a large percentage of major film
studio actors are trying to get their foot in the door of the new
concept for fear their hollywood base is fading.....so also the
skyclad family is retreating to the internet where the individual can
express his or her desires and has control over the arrangement via
personal ads......and it does provide for a web site to answer this
demand by the general public by selling subscriptions......if i am
right this will be the near future...the ol book stores and news
stands are becoming a thing of the past as is newpapers.....it
eliminates the driving and parking situation and chances of getting a
ticket while doing so......all things are changing and of course the
effect of all this is it is economical and the DOLLAR is the daddy of
all that....nice to hear from you ....your friend ....john
Anna
Just to be clear I want nudist clubs to separate themselves from what
you provide. What you provide with your sexualized social nudity is
totally against what nudism is about. But you don't claim to be nudist
nor do you claim that the place you promote is nudist and I respect
you for that. I hope that all that want a sexualized social nudity
experience will only go to places like yours which are clearly defined
as not nudist and that they stop trying to infiltrate nudist places.
Peter Riden
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> well PETER .....man does repond to the most important factor of
> selection.....selection of ones past time is determined by the DOLLAR
> EFFECT....
TGB~Inn http://www.the-grand-barn.com/tgb_inn2010.html has kept me
busy this past week.
I'd say the Dollar equation is definitely going to establish in which
way the desire to vacation or evade the daily routines many find
themselves subjected to... and as such the bolder ones will look into
an undisguised and fulfilling way to interact with like-minded friends
where the possibility of natural possible attractiveness between
consenting adults in a nudity-permitted environment does happen.
And those who payt the bioll will make sure they maximize what they
pay for..;-)
>.if one is submerged into the family ideology of going
> naked publicly....one must know there is an issue that is fickle about
> this arrangement and that it is the family itself....families do come
> and go.
It seems that some require that kids be present to call being nude
socially... nudism/naturism.
I don't put that type of requirement if one wants to call him/herself
nudist or naturist but certainly will expect they start with being At
Ease With Nudity.
Often some of them are nude but are so paranoid of being seen nude but
still act very militant in words if not in actions when it comes to
claim anything about what nudism should or shouldn't be.... and
again.. more than often it's their desire to have children in the
equation... almost a fixation.
Good, as we both knowm that children are basically and initially
unconcerned with nudity... it's only the adults passing on their
traumas and inanities on those children. Yes families do come and go..
those kids grow and once adults they require the real facts of life
and as you put it next...
> but the basic eventualities of mans sex drive does seem to live on.....
Or as I put it above "natural possible attractiveness"
> and any breakdown of the original family nakedness arrangement
> is quickly measured and noted up at the cash register...even ol Tony
> knows that......
That's why Tony offers different themes in the same way I've done and
do but we're well aware that more genuine honest people will be coming
our way when the themes we present are true to what human interactions
ought to be... not a false sense of pretended innocence in a world
that needs to correct many of its deficiencies.
The following adresses more to the loner that finds a way to connect
through Internet if not otherwise.
Of course we both know that I prefer to see our many friends coming at
THE GRAND BARN/TGB~Inn and showing support for an environment that
caters to realistic well rounded people of the open-minded kind..;-)
> so there will always be the family arrangement but i
> think the porn evolvement that is taking place now because the
> internet is revealing what the individual is demanding and the big
> time corps are losing it....sorta like hollywood is suffereing also
> because of ...iFC ....channel 250.....a large percentage of major film
> studio actors are trying to get their foot in the door of the new
> concept for fear their hollywood base is fading.....so also the
> skyclad family is retreating to the internet where the individual can
> express his or her desires and has control over the arrangement via
> personal ads......and it does provide for a web site to answer this
> demand by the general public by selling subscriptions......if i am
> right this will be the near future...the ol book stores and news
> stands are becoming a thing of the past as is newpapers.....it
> eliminates the driving and parking situation and chances of getting a
> ticket while doing so......all things are changing and of course the
> effect of all this is it is economical and the DOLLAR is the daddy of
> all that...
So for those who look for money well spent.... come our way to THE
GRAND BARN/TGB~Inn.
.nice to hear from you ....your friend ....john
Seasons Greetings and now it's time to be nice with everyone, my
friend John..;-)
In Friendship & Universality
Peter Riden {T.W.A.N. Founder}
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Zee
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nice to hear you are keepin a close watch on things.....as you get
older you do not realize how much accumilated knowledge one has of
people and how they respond to their daily lives.....i never at once
thought along the way that hey i remember seeing that guy at swing
party or that guy in adult nudist book store was the same one i saw at
a nudist camp....and that this info would be of value some day....and
of course operating a nude dancer sex business was the most depressing
of all....there are a few winners but many losers....not that the sex
business causes the losers but the losers that made it to where i was
may have overdozed or crashed and burned before i encountered
them....but all of this gives a man an ensight as to how folks behave
and the ones that were not involved but simply onlookers.....so i know
there is others out there but their personal situation does not allow
them to come to rec nude and join folks like you and i that have a
wealth of knowledge about the naked and sexy world....these jokers in
rec nude are mostly not nudist but a bunch of anons wanting to know
what happened in life among the ones that actually were involved with
the excitement of the best years....the sixties and seventies.....and
i suppose by playin the goody goody two shoes idiot personna they
think they can be educated....anyhow it has been encouraging and
rewarding to have met you here in rec nude and realized that a down to
earth person like myself is also here....not the nerdy out in space
type or the downright liar that tries to confuse and create
chaos....it is an ongoing saga of mixed emotions that keeps man
constantly on the move and where we go next is anybodys guess...any
how we have enjoyed a few holliday seasons here at rec nude and wanna
wish you and your fine family a joyous one and stay healthy and
safe.....john
FREECOSPIRIT
agree with. To me naturism is all about being bodily free out of
doors in the warm sunshine. There is something good about this which
most of us understand though we cannot explain why, it just feels
nice. Many naturists have also found that being naked indoors has its
positive side as well though in my view there is no comparison with
sun and beach nudity. Most of my friends and family are textile for
whom even beach nudity is something they just do not understand.
I have never really understood the point of nude socializing beyond
passing the time of day with others, nude or textile, who happen to be
on the beach at the time. May be if you are already nude it is
pointless to dress just to pop into the bar or for lunch, that I can
empathize with. However consider the winter scenario when it is cold
and you go fully dressed to an indoor social function, when you get
there everyone gets undressed to have a jolly naked get together, no
pool or sun involved. I ask myself why would you want to be naked
under such circumstances. It may be fun, I fail to see how it cannot
be sexual to a degree.
Freecospirit.
Zee
wrote:
mans degree of expectation..regarding sex is greater when going
indoors naked rather than outdoors naked......as taking ones clothes
off in front of the opposite sex tends to increase the expectation
factor also....the vitamin c level below 50 is not good...and the
doctors are saying the pills are not as good as direct sunlight and
most folks are deficient...so it could be like eating a good meal
after missing your last is better when really hungry.....but they say
only 15 minutes a day is all that is needed.....jz
Anna
> It seems that some require that kids be present to call being nude
> socially... nudism/naturism.
Kids don't have to be present but the behavior has to be as such that
if kids were there the environment would be appropriate for them.
That's why I tend to use the word nonsexualized instead of "Family
Friendly" though they mean the same thing.
Anna
> I don't put that type of requirement if one wants to call him/herself
> nudist or naturist but certainly will expect they start with being At
> Ease With Nudity.
That certainly plays an important part but the nudity practiced has to
be of a nonsexualized nature. And also "body acceptance and tolerance"
also plays a critical role.
Anna
> Often some of them are nude but are so paranoid of being seen nude but
> still act very militant in words if not in actions when it comes to
> claim anything about what nudism should or shouldn't be.... and
> again.. more than often it's their desire to have children in the
> equation... almost a fixation.
That's why I tend to use "nonsexualized" instead of "family
friendly". Children don't have to be part of the equation but they
shouldn't be left out either (unless they personally feel
uncomfortable being nude and are being forced to go there by their
parents).
Anna
> Often some of them are nude but are so paranoid of being seen nude...
I believe it depends on the situation. A nudist could feel comfortable
being nude among a like minded group of people who he or she knows
will not look at the nudity in a sexualized or intolerant manner and
will not mock the nudity. But that same nudist might feel very
uncomfortable parading around nude among textiles who might not have
that same nudist - body tolerant, nonsexualized, mindset eg. at the
World Naked Bike Ride. Also a nudist may feel comfortable being nude
among other nudists but do not want to have a photo, a permanent
image, taken for all the world to see. After all in nudism being seen
around nude and seeing other nude people is incidential (and of course
the nudist can't be bothered by it) but the purpose is the feeling of
being nude. And there is certainly a difference between photos that
will only be seen by friends and family and photos that will be in a
magazine and/or the Internet where people of prurient interests might
view them.
Terry J. Wood
41ac-bd7d-b...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
> However consider the winter scenario when it is cold
> and you go fully dressed to an indoor social function, when you get
> there everyone gets undressed to have a jolly naked get together, no
> pool or sun involved. I ask myself why would you want to be naked
> under such circumstances.
If there isn't a hot tub involved, how can it be fun? :-)
Anna
> FREECOSPIRIT <freecospi...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in news:00eb5f60-098d-
> 41ac-bd7d-bee92cf63...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:
>
> > However consider the winter scenario when it is cold
> > and you go fully dressed to an indoor social function, when you get
> > there everyone gets undressed to have a jolly naked get together, no
> > pool or sun involved. I ask myself why would you want to be naked
> > under such circumstances.
>
> If there isn't a hot tub involved, how can it be fun? :-)
For me, like FREECOSPIRIT nudity is basically a summer, mostly outdoor
thing for me (though on a hot summer's day I am not going to bother to
get dressed even when I am inside my house).
I sleep nude most all the time, but it isn't like I spend the winter
nude watching television.
I don't know how I would feel being at say a Christmas (indoor) party
nude (without a hot tub or indoor swimming pool). Nude for nudity
sake in an indoor environment just doesn't appeal to me.