What Kind of "Pool Talk" should get one booted from a Nudist venue.
Anna
should be cause for one to get booted from a nudist club.
What other kinds of talk should get one booted?
Here are just a few things.
Talk about your and other's private parts such as "wow he has a big
weiner", or wow my little peter is sure getting a tan (that is if the
person isn't eating a hot dog or you don't a son named Peter).
Talk of going to Swinger venues (in fact there should be a sign that
says "no swingers allowed" which in effect won't actually keep
swingers out but they would know if they behaved in a way that would
indicate them being swingers they would be booted so they better not
behave in such a way.
Can anyone think of any other type of casual talk that should be cause
for being kicked out of a nudist venue?
Anna
Here's another one I thought of.
Talk that insults someone's body. Such as wow she is sure fat. Or he
is sure winklely.
Oh, of course due to the "Don't ask Don't tell" policy with gays no
talk about a "gay partner" or anything like that.
zeptov
> Oh, of course due to the "Don't ask Don't tell" policy with gays no
> talk about a "gay partner" or anything like that.
And any talk of wives or husbands, too.
I've never understood this; gays are a part of our society, whether we
like it or not. They have been since prehistoric times, and will be as
far into the future as we can tell. Why should they have to hide?
Boy, there's a great environment: "Be comfortable with yourself! Unless
you're gay of course." Who's next? Trade unionists? Jewish people?
So yeah, there are gay folks out there. But just because they're gay and
we're both women or both men, doesn't mean they're attracted to me. What
baffles me even more is when the anti-gay sentiment runs from women
towards men or vice-versa -- what, are you offended that you're not
attractive to someone of the opposite sex? What possible difference
could that make? Some people of the opposite sex find you attractive;
most do not. Some people of the same sex find you attractive; most do
not. Sometimes the attraction will be sexual; most of the time it will
not. Deal with it, accept yourself, and move on.
If someone's gay and it becomes clear, that is no cause for expulsion.
Anna
It matters how it becomes clear.
If the person is "acting gay" or going out of his way letting people
know he is gay then yes it should be a cause for expulsion.
Dan Abel
zeptov <zep...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Anna wrote:
>
> > Oh, of course due to the "Don't ask Don't tell" policy with gays no
> > talk about a "gay partner" or anything like that.
>
> And any talk of wives or husbands, too.
>
> I've never understood this
What's there to not understand? When, Anna, who is not a social nudist
and doesn't ever plan to try it, explains how social nudity works, those
rules exist only in his twisted mind. My rule is pretty much, if Anna
says it, it probably isn't true. Pretty simple.
--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net
zeptov
> It matters how it becomes clear.
>
> If the person is "acting gay" or going out of his way letting people
> know he is gay then yes it should be a cause for expulsion.
You mentioned talk of a partner previously. Is that going out of his/her
way? Even in the context of others discussing their families?
"Acting gay" is unclear to me in general. Some men are less masculine,
or more feminine, than others; some women are less feminine, or more
masculine; is that acting gay, even when they're straight?
Are gays okay as long as everyone can assume they're straight? If that
were applied to any other group - Jewish people, black people, women in
the workplace, etc. - it would be obviously wrong. This can be no less so.
With my gay friends, I've found something simple: they let me know they
were gay when they trusted me. I don't want to make an environment where
some members feel like they can't trust anyone. Being who you are should
not be a cause for expulsion.
Zee
hey you guys....first of all social family nudism has never been a gay
thing.....yes there are bi sexuals by the tons but as long as they act
ok they are welcome....but gays have no reason to be in a family
nudist place other than to check out their gender and this would not
be receptive other than a bi sexual that might be interested.....for
all practical purposes talk bout gay and gay nudist places are not
appropriate in rec nude as we certainly do not want the gays to think
that nudist are putting out the welcome mat for them....they can go to
the ymca or buddy up and do all kinds of naked things but hetero rec
is hard to make work unless conditions are in place which do not
include gay....jz
Anna
> > It matters how it becomes clear.
>
> > If the person is "acting gay" or going out of his way letting people
> > know he is gay then yes it should be a cause for expulsion.
>
> You mentioned talk of a partner previously. Is that going out of his/her
> way? Even in the context of others discussing their families?
Well it matters how he refers to his partner. If he refers to him as a
"friend" then people perhaps might assume he is gay but that isn' the
same as out and out telling people.
> "Acting gay" is unclear to me in general. Some men are less masculine,
> or more feminine, than others; some women are less feminine, or more
> masculine; is that acting gay, even when they're straight?
It all depends on how it effects the environment of the club.
> Are gays okay as long as everyone can assume they're straight?
Exactly. Since nudism is nonsexualized social nudity why is this guy
injecting his sexuality into it?
> With my gay friends, I've found something simple: they let me know they
> were gay when they trusted me. I don't want to make an environment where
> some members feel like they can't trust anyone. Being who you are should
> not be a cause for expulsion.
For straights as well as gays injecting their sexuality into what is
supposed to be a nonsexualized situation should be a cause for
explusion.
REMITROM
>
> hey you guys....first of all social family nudism has never been a gay
> thing.....yes there are bi sexuals by the tons but as long as they act
> ok they are welcome....but gays have no reason to be in a family
> nudist place other than to check out their gender and this would not
> be receptive other than a bi sexual that might be interested.....for
> all practical purposes talk bout gay and gay nudist places are not
> appropriate in rec nude as we certainly do not want the gays to think
> that nudist are putting out the welcome mat for them....they can go to
> the ymca or buddy up and do all kinds of naked things but hetero rec
> is hard to make work unless conditions are in place which do not
> include gay....jz
Zee's answer to zeptov should make it clear.
If your lifestyle isn't expressing "family values", you're not welcome
in a social family nudism environment; no matter who you claim to be
part of your "family".
Anna
I agree with that statement. And if you don't have such a lifestyle
you should keep it well hidden and not flaunt it about.
James Dale Guckert
> On Dec 16, 11:26 am, zeptov <zep...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > It matters how it becomes clear.
>
> > > If the person is "acting gay" or going out of his way letting people
> > > know he is gay then yes it should be a cause for expulsion.
>
> > You mentioned talk of a partner previously. Is that going out of his/her
> > way? Even in the context of others discussing their families?
>
> Well it matters how he refers to his partner. If he refers to him as a
> "friend" then people perhaps might assume he is gay but that isn' the
> same as out and out telling people.
And saying that a man is a woman's husband might imply that the couple
has sex, but there's no reason to assume as much.
How does this work in states where same-sex marriage is legal? Exactly
the same way, I suppose.
> > "Acting gay" is unclear to me in general. Some men are less masculine,
> > or more feminine, than others; some women are less feminine, or more
> > masculine; is that acting gay, even when they're straight?
>
> It all depends on how it effects the environment of the club.
I'd be more concerned about how you would affect the environment of
the club.
> > Are gays okay as long as everyone can assume they're straight?
>
> Exactly. Since nudism is nonsexualized social nudity why is this guy
What guy?
> injecting his sexuality into it?
Of course "straight" is also a sexuality, so it's too late, isn't it?
JDG
Anna
> > Exactly. Since nudism is nonsexualized social nudity why is this guy
>
> What guy?
You are right. It could be some lesbian.
> > injecting his sexuality into it?
>
> Of course "straight" is also a sexuality, so it's too late, isn't it?
And if a straight person is going about talking about their sexual
exploits and such that person should be booted as well.
> JDG
James Dale Guckert
When did anyone start doing that?
This is how your mind, er, "works" all the time? No wonder you hate
people. You make stuff up about them based on the thinnest shred of
information.
JDG
Lane
news:2waWm.62$ft1...@newsfe10.iad:
>> It matters how it becomes clear.
>>
>> If the person is "acting gay" or going out of his way letting people
>> know he is gay then yes it should be a cause for expulsion.
>
> You mentioned talk of a partner previously. Is that going out of
> his/her way? Even in the context of others discussing their families?
>
You probably know this, but you're wasting your time.
I find it best not to feed the "Anna"-mals.
--
Lane
stinso...@hotmail.com
wrote:
>If someone's gay and it becomes clear, that is no cause for expulsion.
Moreover, such an expulsion would be grounds for me to quit a club or
other venue.
-T.
Cheri Alexander
sexuality is not an issue, all should be welcome IMHO.
Cheri
www.travelites.info
Zee
ah come on Cheri....just when i was gonna recommend you for president
of the aanr....yer going dumb on us....you can damned well bet that a
losing social game of heterosexual folks that are white and not
gaining in popularity across the country and through desparation
figures they need to welcome blacks and queers to take up the
slack...is a sign of immaturity and begging for more knowledge where
the rubber meets the road....it just dont work girl....jz
Jenny6833A
> ... IMHO.
Good, Cheri, good!
:-)
Jenny
REMITROM
Swingers are people too. They can and do have families. Their
sexuality is expressed, almost always, in privacy.
Then, according to your logic, swingers should be welcome in
mainstream social nudist situations...but both you and I know that's
not the case, so get off your PC, "gays are just people like you and
I" and accept the reality that the lifestyle of NEITHER group should
be acceptable in a nudist environment.
James Dale Guckert
> On Dec 17, 8:36 am, Cheri Alexander <cherido...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> > Gays are people too. They can and do have families. Since overt
> > sexuality is not an issue, all should be welcome IMHO.
>
> > Cheriwww.travelites.info
>
> Swingers are people too. They can and do have families. Their
> sexuality is expressed, almost always, in privacy.
More importantly, you cannot tell by looking at a married hetero
couple if they are swingers. (Unless they are in the act, of course.)
You often can't even tell by talking to them unless you ask them.
> Then, according to your logic, swingers should be welcome in
> mainstream social nudist situations...but both you and I know that's
> not the case,
In whose boot camp?
> so get off your PC, "gays are just people like you and
> I" and accept the reality that the lifestyle of NEITHER group should
> be acceptable in a nudist environment.
Whose "reality" is this?
JDG
Zee
so now the ol non nudist speaks up about what he would do if he was a
member.....yep you are here because you are a queer and reject from
academia trying to find a home amongy the white trash and queers and
even a black or two maybe.....well that what nudism is made of and
there never was family nudism in the usa....a handful of kids among
gobs of sex seekers and couples....it would seem that nudist need to
concentrate on building up the family situation to par and make it
look like golf club family situation with a hundred kids or more on a
big day...but this never happened and will not happen as nudist
doggedly try to be politically correct by inviting the non family
friendly queers and the blacks which have no interest in nudism at
all....this time the blacks are proud they are not welcome...jz
stinso...@hotmail.com
<remit...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Dec 17, 8:36�am, Cheri Alexander <cherido...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>> �Gays are people too. �They can and do have families. � Since overt
>> sexuality is not an issue, all should be welcome IMHO.
>>
>> Cheriwww.travelites.info
>
>Swingers are people too. They can and do have families. Their
>sexuality is expressed, almost always, in privacy.
Maybe. "Hey, you into the lifestyle (wink, wink)?" "You and the little
lady interested in coming over and (wink, wink)"? I have never been
propositioned by a gay man. But I've had such conversations by
practitioners of "The Lifestyle".
>Then, according to your logic, swingers should be welcome in
>mainstream social nudist situations...
And they are, as long as they're not trolling for partners.
>but both you and I know that's
>not the case
Actually, it is.
> so get off your PC, "gays are just people like you and
>I"
They are, so it's not so much PC as it is factual.
>and accept the reality that the lifestyle of NEITHER group should
>be acceptable in a nudist environment.
You know, Anna, you really suck at sock-puppetry. I'd rather hang out
with a committed gay couple than a hetro couple aggressively on the
make, any day of the week. Your mileage obviously varies.
-T.
James Dale Guckert
> On Dec 16, 7:34 pm, stinson_h...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:33:38 -0800, zeptov <zep...@googlemail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >If someone's gay and it becomes clear, that is no cause for expulsion.
>
> > Moreover, such an expulsion would be grounds for me to quit a club or
> > other venue.
>
> member....
That's "Anna" all over... and admittedly. And repeatedly.
JDG
Terry J. Wood
e038af...@s19g2000vbm.googlegroups.com:
> Then, according to your logic, swingers should be welcome in
> mainstream social nudist situations
Why not? Swingers, Republicans, Radfemmes, you name it. All should be
welcome. All they need to do is behave with proper nudist etiquette.
What's so hard about that?
Anna
Don't ask don't tell. First of all it's the only way it can be because
you can't mind read. But second it works because if a guy (or a gal)
isn't giving off gay vibes then you wouldn't know for sure would you.
Gays should NOT be welcome but of course if they did behave themselves
no one would know they are gay and so they would be allowed.
Anna
real reality. Of course if you can't tell you can't tell but other
than that they shouldn't be welcome.
Gays (as well as swingers) have many nude resorts they can go to
without trying to infiltrate nudist venues.
Anna
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:44:03 -0800 (PST), REMITROM
>
> >On Dec 17, 8:36 am, Cheri Alexander <cherido...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >> Gays are people too. They can and do have families. Since overt
> >> sexuality is not an issue, all should be welcome IMHO.
>
> >> Cheriwww.travelites.info
>
> >Swingers are people too. They can and do have families. Their
> >sexuality is expressed, almost always, in privacy.
>
> Maybe. "Hey, you into the lifestyle (wink, wink)?" "You and the little
> lady interested in coming over and (wink, wink)"? I have never been
> propositioned by a gay man. But I've had such conversations by
> practitioners of "The Lifestyle".
The first time they do that to you that should be reported to the club
so they can be booted and put on that blacklist that nudists talk
about. Then they could never attend a real nudist club again. It's
your duty as a nudist to do so.
Anna
>
> >On Dec 17, 8:36 am, Cheri Alexander <cherido...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >> Gays are people too. They can and do have families. Since overt
> >> sexuality is not an issue, all should be welcome IMHO.
>
> >> Cheriwww.travelites.info
>
> >Swingers are people too. They can and do have families. Their
> >sexuality is expressed, almost always, in privacy.
>
> Maybe. "Hey, you into the lifestyle (wink, wink)?" "You and the little
> lady interested in coming over and (wink, wink)"? I have never been
> propositioned by a gay man. But I've had such conversations by
> practitioners of "The Lifestyle".
The first time they do that you should report them to the club so they
can be booted and put on the black list that nudists talk about. Then
they could never attend a nudist resort ever again. It's your duty as
Anna
> REMITROM <remitro...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:19aabeaf-3dd4-4245-b868-
> e038afb60...@s19g2000vbm.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Then, according to your logic, swingers should be welcome in
> > mainstream social nudist situations
>
> Why not? Swingers, Republicans, Radfemmes, you name it. All should be
> welcome. All they need to do is behave with proper nudist etiquette.
>
> What's so hard about that?
If they behave then you wouldn't know what they are anyway. But no,
don't encourage gays and swingers to come. Let them know that if they
"tell" they will be booted.
Anna
>
> >On Dec 17, 8:36 am, Cheri Alexander <cherido...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >> Gays are people too. They can and do have families. Since overt
> >> sexuality is not an issue, all should be welcome IMHO.
>
> >> Cheriwww.travelites.info
>
> >Swingers are people too. They can and do have families. Their
> >sexuality is expressed, almost always, in privacy.
>
> Maybe. "Hey, you into the lifestyle (wink, wink)?" "You and the little
> lady interested in coming over and (wink, wink)"? I have never been
> propositioned by a gay man. But I've had such conversations by
> practitioners of "The Lifestyle".
If that ever happened to my husband he would punch the guy out. He is
a little old school that way.
Nudist clubs need to be informed when this happens so the person in
"The Lifestyle" can be booted and blacklisted.
Just because someone wants to experience nudism it doesn't mean that
person wants to experience all this wink, wink, "The Lifestyle" crap.
It doesn't mean that the person wants to be surrounded by a bunch of
swingers.
I know the saying is "Nude isn't Lewd" but sorry it CAN be lewd
depending on the people doing it.
Anna
> You know, Anna, you really suck at sock-puppetry. I'd rather hang out
> with a committed gay couple than a hetro couple aggressively on the
> make, any day of the week.
I rather hang out with neither of them. And since nudism is supposed
to be nonsexualized social nudity I shouldn't have to.
James Dale Guckert
A few posts up you said it was okay (to you) for swingers to go so
long as they behaved themselves. Why exactly is that not the case
anymore... have you changed your mind? And why is it not the case for
a homosexual couple to attend if they are no less polite than anyone
else there?
> Gays (as well as swingers) have many nude resorts they can go to
> without trying to infiltrate nudist venues.
How are nudists *attending* a venue *infiltrating* it?
You really hate people, don't you? If they aren't of *your* mindset,
they are The Enemy, it seems.
JDG
James Dale Guckert
> On Dec 17, 10:21 pm, "Terry J. Wood" <TerryJW...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > REMITROM <remitro...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:19aabeaf-3dd4-4245-b868-
> > e038afb60...@s19g2000vbm.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > Then, according to your logic, swingers should be welcome in
> > > mainstream social nudist situations
>
> > Why not? Swingers, Republicans, Radfemmes, you name it. All should be
> > welcome. All they need to do is behave with proper nudist etiquette.
>
> > What's so hard about that?
>
> If they behave then you wouldn't know what they are anyway.
If it's a couple of married lesbians, you might. Is it poor behavior
to introduce your spouses as such?
> But no, don't encourage gays and swingers to come. Let them know that if they
> "tell" they will be booted.
You want married couples "booted" if they plan to make love in their
rooms. Now you want people to hide the gender of their significant
others.
We should just call you "Mr. Boot" from now on.
JDG
James Dale Guckert
This is not your concern, since you are not a social nudist anyway.
Too many naked *people* for your tastes, no doubt.
JDG
Lane
news:2ae3733b-0ebd-4faf...@v7g2000pro.googlegroups.com:
You presume Anna has a mind to change.
> And why is it not the case for
> a homosexual couple to attend if they are no less polite than anyone
> else there?
In Anna's world, the fact that they are there is a couple is "acting all
sexual." Apparently, the mere sight of a gay couple is enough to get him
hard. I assume he just can't help imagining what the couple does in bed.
--
Lane
BeoWolf
> In Anna's world, the fact that they are there is a couple is "acting all
> sexual." Apparently, the mere sight of a gay couple is enough to get him
> hard. I assume he just can't help imagining what the couple does in bed.
>
> --
> Lane
Once I got a perm and straight guys were checking ME out! Wow! I was
three thumbs up!
BeoWolf
REMITROM
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:44:03 -0800 (PST), REMITROM
>
Well T, clearly you have very poor powers of observation because the
post you chose to comment on (in copious detail) was written by me and
not Anna to whom you directed your final comments.
I also send my condolences to you for your self-confessed obvious lack
of physical attractiveness, given that you've never been propositioned
by a homosexual at a nudist gathering. Any ADULT seemingly available
male is a prime target; because they know, if they went for the young
boys they are most attracted to, being tossed out of the venue would
be the least of their worries.
There's a name for someone who would choose to hang out with a
"committed gay couple" rather than a heterosexual couple (and if
they're "aggressively on the make" just say no); it's a male fag hag.
Enjoy your chosen company.
Terry J. Wood
2efbb8...@a10g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
> If it's a couple of married lesbians, you might. Is it poor behavior
> to introduce your spouses as such?
Of course not. Who cares about other people's sexual orientation? That's
their business, not ours.
All that matters is that they respect proper naturist etiquette.
CASE CLOSED, NEXT CASE!
Zee
>
> - Show quoted text -
well Bio....to fine tune...in all my years i never saw gay person put
the make on anyone....but i confess i must have avoided groups that
looked suspicious of homosexual ...but never really ever noticed too
many groups with that personna.....jeesh i am commending nudism for it
natural tendency to disuade queers....but this is my job here...merry
Christmas and great new year for you...and family nudism is about as
straight as you will ever find in the usa....oh the tractor auction in
missouri is close though.....jz
Lane
d0e72a...@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:
> On Dec 17, 11:55�pm, stinson_h...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:44:03 -0800 (PST), REMITROM
>>
>> <remitro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >On Dec 17, 8:36 am, Cheri Alexander <cherido...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>> >and accept the reality that the lifestyle of NEITHER group should
>> >be acceptable in a nudist environment.
>>
>> You know, Anna, you really suck at sock-puppetry. I'd rather hang out
>> with a committed gay couple than a hetro couple aggressively on the
>> make, any day of the week. Your mileage obviously varies.
>>
>> -T.
>
> Well T, clearly you have very poor powers of observation because the
> post you chose to comment on (in copious detail) was written by me and
> not Anna to whom you directed your final comments.
Thanks for proving that you and "Anna" are actually the same troll. (Or,
if not, you might as well be, because you're equally ridiculous.)
--
Lane
BeoWolf
> REMITROM <remitro...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:b9e7803e-6a5a-439c-b371-
> d0e72a868...@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:
> Thanks for proving that you and "Anna" are actually the same troll. (Or,
> if not, you might as well be, because you're equally ridiculous.)
>
> --
> Lane
Their posts did not come from the same person, nor do either use more
than 1 nick on rec.nude, confidence level = 100%.
BeoWolf
stinso...@hotmail.com
<remit...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Well T, clearly you have very poor powers of observation because the
>post you chose to comment on (in copious detail) was written by me and
>not Anna to whom you directed your final comments.
Your post was so close to Anna's tripe, I assumed it was one in the
same. Still do.
>
>I also send my condolences to you for your self-confessed obvious lack
>of physical attractiveness, given that you've never been propositioned
>by a homosexual at a nudist gathering.
Oh, darn! I just don't seem to attract gay men. I do fine with women
though, that will have to sooth the pain.
> Any ADULT seemingly available
>male is a prime target; because they know, if they went for the young
>boys they are most attracted to, being tossed out of the venue would
>be the least of their worries.
I'm thinking you're pretty much full of shit.
>There's a name for someone who would choose to hang out with a
>"committed gay couple" rather than a heterosexual couple (and if
>they're "aggressively on the make" just say no); it's a male fag hag.
Human comes immediately to mind. I don't imagine you're too familiar
with that.
>Enjoy your chosen company.
You're still a miserable sock puppet.
-T.
Zee
> On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:15:16 -0800 (PST), REMITROM
>
gee if nudist ever find rec nude and come here they will
wonder ...where are these nutty folks coming from....most who post
here have never been inside a nudist facility.....and this whole
argument of gays in nudism is nothing but speculative
bullshit.....first of all ...why would a gay or gay couple go to a
nudist facility where children and females are present...it does not
make sense....and it has never made sense to the gays as they can stay
in town and go to the ymca or the gay bathhouses or all the other
places and be submerged in gay males...just like if pedos could go to
a place where nothing but little girls were there naked....you would
never find a pedo in a nudist camp again ever....gays have never been
known to be in nudist facilities at all period.....yet these idiot
posters fantasize that it is like a public square where pidgeons dogs
and all are in abundance.....it just aint that way...there is bad
things wrong with family nudism but homosexuality is not one of
them.....yes there is bi sexuals but they come as heterosexuals and
unless they confided to you you would not know it.....the dont ask
dont tell does work ...in the military and the nudist
world.....whew....hopefully we got that straight now......jz
Terry J. Wood
4ax.com:
> Oh, darn! I just don't seem to attract gay men. I do fine with women
> though, that will have to sooth the pain.
It is your cross to "bare".
Anna
If I said that then I did mistype what I really meant. I believe what
I mean is if they behaved themselves then no one would know they were
swingers anyway, and indeed if they behaved themselves so well that
others didn't know they were then it would be okay for them to be
there.
Same goes for gays.
Don't tell.
Anna
> On Dec 17, 10:48 pm, Anna <annalidd...@lycos.com> wrote:
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> > On Dec 17, 10:21 pm, "Terry J. Wood" <TerryJW...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > > REMITROM <remitro...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:19aabeaf-3dd4-4245-b868-
> > > e038afb60...@s19g2000vbm.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > > Then, according to your logic, swingers should be welcome in
> > > > mainstream social nudist situations
>
> > > Why not? Swingers, Republicans, Radfemmes, you name it. All should be
> > > welcome. All they need to do is behave with proper nudist etiquette.
>
> > > What's so hard about that?
>
> > If they behave then you wouldn't know what they are anyway.
>
> If it's a couple of married lesbians, you might.
Only if they were overt in their sexuality. As only as they didn't
tell although you might suspect, as long as they didn't behave "gay"
then they wouldn't ruin the environment.
Anna
> James Dale Guckert <Dipt...@Yahoo.com> wrote in news:50952d02-5199-4a41-b7ae-
> 2efbb8888...@a10g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>
> > If it's a couple of married lesbians, you might. Is it poor behavior
> > to introduce your spouses as such?
>
> Of course not. Who cares about other people's sexual orientation?
As long as they didn't make it an issue you wouldn't know anyway.
James Dale Guckert
> On Dec 17, 5:36 am, Cheri Alexander <cherido...@prodigy.net> wrote:
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> > Gays are people too. They can and do have families. Since overt
> > sexuality is not an issue, all should be welcome IMHO.
>
> > Cheriwww.travelites.info
>
> Don't ask don't tell. First of all it's the only way it can be because
> you can't mind read. But second it works because if a guy (or a gal)
> isn't giving off gay vibes then you wouldn't know for sure would you.
What are "gay vibes" in your universe?
> Gays should NOT be welcome but of course if they did behave themselves
And what does "behave themselves" mean in this context?
> no one would know they are gay
So, introducing one's same-sex spouse during introductions would *not*
be considered "behaving themselves" in your universe.
Basically what this means is that, to you, a casual, matter-of-fact
introduction in a social setting is the equivalent of "sexing up the
place."
This also means that, even if they don't come to the place with the
intent to have any sex there (like the heterosexuals are also
apparently not supposed to do for some unclear reason), but if they
casually mention that they are married to each other or are in a
committed relationship, they must be booted anyway because *YOU*
cannot resist the urge to picture all sorts of gay kinkiness in your
own mind. And when you picture all that gay kinkiness, then they have
ruined the environment by indirectly "sexualizing" it.
Right?
Boiled down to the essence, it's their fault you cannot help
yourself.
Generally, it's a boring fact when one person introduces you to that
person's spouse or partner in life. Not for you, I guess. Just the
fact that people are married or in a committed relationship sends your
thoughts careening into wicked images of all sorts of depravity and
indecency.
Right?
You are such a deep-down pervert, you make swingers sound normal.
> and so they would be allowed.
Not so much "be allowed" as "manage to sneak in under cover," right?
Not so much "be allowed" as "not get you all hot and bothered," right?
And getting hot and bothered freaks you out, doesn't it?
Maybe it's time you started to recognize the source for your attitudes
towards human sexuality.
Maybe it's time, sir, that you had you some sex.
JDG
James Dale Guckert
Your concern for the "environment" is really fear that your own little
internal world won't be polluted by your own mental images of people
having sex. That much is clear.
JDG
Michael Angelo Ravera
If I introduce myself as "Hi, I'm Mich and I like women between the
ages of 15 and 75" or "I'm Mich and this is my harem, Julie, Lori, and
Terri", I suppose that I could reasonably be accused of "sexing up the
place" as well. I suppose that, if I introduce my wife as "my
heterosexual partner" that this would, likewise, foul the air.
It's got to be really tough, if you are gay.
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annoying like their medical conditions, the prescriptions they take, their
devotion to organic foods and tofu, how smart their dog or grand child is.
What's important is that they respect others that say, "hey look you seemed
like a nice person at first, but I'm not into that scene, or we don't
believe in your religion we have other spiritual beliefs and we didn't come
here to defend them, or we think swingers are crazy losers and rather not
talk about that but I'm sure you can find people like you at the other end
of the pool!" If people persist no matter what, warn them that you will
talk to the managers, just don't mention your camping spot because they
might go give you a flat tire, or key your RV!
Bill S in AZ
"Anna" <annal...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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> Sure (I hope) talk of a direct sexual nature and socialization for sex
> should be cause for one to get booted from a nudist club.
>
> What other kinds of talk should get one booted?
>
> Here are just a few things.
>
> Talk about your and other's private parts such as "wow he has a big
> weiner", or wow my little peter is sure getting a tan (that is if the
> person isn't eating a hot dog or you don't a son named Peter).
>
> Talk of going to Swinger venues (in fact there should be a sign that
> says "no swingers allowed" which in effect won't actually keep
> swingers out but they would know if they behaved in a way that would
> indicate them being swingers they would be booted so they better not
> behave in such a way.
>
> Can anyone think of any other type of casual talk that should be cause
> for being kicked out of a nudist venue?
Zee
> No one should be censored. People talk about other things that are more
> annoying like their medical conditions, the prescriptions they take, their
> devotion to organic foods and tofu, how smart their dog or grand child is.
> What's important is that they respect others that say, "hey look you seemed
> like a nice person at first, but I'm not into that scene, or we don't
> believe in your religion we have other spiritual beliefs and we didn't come
> here to defend them, or we think swingers are crazy losers and rather not
> talk about that but I'm sure you can find people like you at the other end
> of the pool!" If people persist no matter what, warn them that you will
> talk to the managers, just don't mention your camping spot because they
> might go give you a flat tire, or key your RV!
> Bill S in AZ
>
>
> news:c675d4fc-34d3-4043...@s19g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Sure (I hope) talk of a direct sexual nature and socialization for sex
> > should be cause for one to get booted from a nudist club.
>
> > What other kinds of talk should get one booted?
>
> > Here are just a few things.
>
> > Talk about your and other's private parts such as "wow he has a big
> > weiner", or wow my little peter is sure getting a tan (that is if the
> > person isn't eating a hot dog or you don't a son named Peter).
>
> > Talk of going to Swinger venues (in fact there should be a sign that
> > says "no swingers allowed" which in effect won't actually keep
> > swingers out but they would know if they behaved in a way that would
> > indicate them being swingers they would be booted so they better not
> > behave in such a way.
>
> > Can anyone think of any other type of casual talk that should be cause
>
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well Bill...man has not handled technology very well other than to
spend all his money on it and then beg for the government to help him
out...he can no longer talk to his neighbor because his neighbor is
just like him....social groups can no longer function because no one
wants to hear what anybody else has to say....so now the ol inventors
day is here for new technology to take care of this pressing
problem....a dark plexiglass suit for all to wear and one could be
naked and no one would know it....it could be climate controlled and
because man cannot bear the sound of anothers voice...only text
messaging on a screen would be needed....and of course the
govt ...should pass these suits out and maintain them in the name of
peace on earth and good will towards man and woman....have a merry
christmas....jz
James Dale Guckert
> No one should be censored. People talk about other things that are more
> annoying like their medical conditions, the prescriptions they take, their
> devotion to organic foods and tofu, how smart their dog or grand child is.
Nooooooo, they cannot talk about grandchildren or children.
That would mean they had sex at some point, and the man made his goo
inside the woman's privates.
That sort of talk is just too erotic.
JDG
Terry J. Wood
What? Sads should be welcome then, but not gays?
That's so silly! We nudists are the happiest people I know! Of course gay
nudists are welcome! Why shouldn't they be? The more the merrier!
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