Carolina Foothills, SC - no longer recommended
Cheri Alexander
Foothills, in
Chesnee, SC
Cheri
Dan MacKay
What happened Cheri???
Terry J. Wood
9656-4c6...@m19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:
> After this weekend, I can no longer recommend visiting Carolina
> Foothills, in
> Chesnee, SC
Are you talking about this one: http://www.carolinafoothills.com/
They're selling lots for $6,000 + closing costs and you get a 99 year
membership. On the surface that sounds like a great deal -- almost too
good to be true!
Is there a catch? Why can't you recommend them?
Jenny6833A
> Cheri Alexander <cherido...@prodigy.net> wrote in news:184b8f63-30ac-4553-
> 9656-4c64a589e...@m19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:
>
> > After this weekend, I can no longer recommend visiting Carolina
> > Foothills, in
> > Chesnee, SC
>
> Are you talking about this one: �http://www.carolinafoothills.com/
>
> They're selling lots for $6,000 + closing costs and you get a 99 year
> membership. �On the surface that sounds like a great deal -- almost too
> good to be true!
>
> Is there a catch? �Why can't you recommend them?
Someone said "poop" or something, and Cheri became outraged.
Cheri is easily outraged.
:-)
Jenny
(well, that or some couple; sat ... uh ... cheek to cheek on a couch,
or something; that would do it too)
Cheri
I am sorry that I can't elucidate further, but if you are an
acquaintanch like Dan or Terry, email me and I'll send you the details
that I would trust you not post. For legal reasons, I cannot
publically post on the usenet newsgroup.
Jenny, it was a LOT more than that.
Cheri
www.travelites.info
Jenny6833A
> For legal reasons, I cannot
> publically post on the usenet newsgroup.
I am simply appalled! If Cheri Alezxander doesn't have the guts to
provide the details publicly, or at least provide a checkable
overview, then why in blazes did she post at all?
This is exactly the kind of fact-free character assasination of well
known resorts that has gotten her summarily booted (and fired as
moderator) from at least one privately owned board. We're all
supposed to boycott some specific resort JUST BECAUSE CHERI-THE-SELF-
ANNOINTED SAYS SO.
Cheri Alexander is well on her way to becoming the Senator Joseph
McCarthy of nudism. "I know something I choose not to tell you, but
it's horrible-horrible-horrible, you have to take my word for it, so
on my prudish, fact-free word alone we must all join together to run a
respected resort out of business."
> � Jenny, it was a LOT more than that.
Oh, two guys (or gals) held hands? Some mixed race couple held
hands? Some Cheri-approved couple held hands longer than the 12.5
seconds Cheri-the-self-appointed-dictator allows?
pfffffffffffffftttttttttttttt
Jenny
(or maybe it was a full body hug or a butt squeeze or one of the
hundreds of other innocent and totally harmless actions that send
Cheri into orbit)
Dan MacKay
>
> - Show quoted text -
Thank you Cheri, I understand now and don't blame you.
(Privacy will be Maintained)
TheWhiteCockatoo
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Thank you Cheri, I understand now and don't blame you.
>
What a ridiculous thread!
Seems the chosen few can know the facts, but the rest of us can only
guess...
Using supposed usenet legalities as a reason not to publish facts is
simply a cop out, which makes this thread thus far a crock of shit!
So taking some info directly off Cheris website these seem the latest
facts re this place:
Carolina Foothill Resort keeps getting better and better. A dozen or
so Travelites visited the park
over this Memorial Day Weekend. Several of us rented cabins, some
tented, others just made day trips.
The band during the day on Saturday was great. There were a few CDs
for sale that totally sold out. The dinner was well worth the price.
There was pork roast, chicken, slaw, potato salad, cabbage, rolls,
cakes, etc. If you didn't get enough the first time you filled your
plate, you could go back for more. I've no idea when the DJ dance
ended that night.
Sunday, friends who live there invited us for a huge brunch. CFR's
annual auction netted them over
$3,400. A few people showed up for the Government Affairs and
Marketing training that AANR and the
Eastern Region support.
Sunday night's dinner as well as the entire weekend was a chance to
visit with old friends and new.
Several played multiple games of volleyball both water and sand. They
have a new horseshoe pit that
was well used.
As we entered and left, we noticed some new home construction near the
entrance. The cabins have been all re-decorated and spruced up.
They're not quite as rustic as they once were.
Monday came all too soon as we had to head home. We did find a new
place to eat breakfast/brunch
on the way home at the new strip center at the intersection of 292 and
hwy 9, The Skillet. Good
food done right and at a good price.
We look forward to returning over FrogFest weekend, July 25-27.
Jenny6833A
wrote:
It sounds like Cheri really loves the place.
Is she, perhaps, talking out of both sides of her mouth with forked
tongue?
:-)
Jenny
Dan MacKay
TheWhiteCockatoo wrote:
> On May 26, >
> What a ridiculous thread!
>
> Seems the chosen few can know the facts, but the rest of us can only
> guess...
>
I keep silent because I was asked nicely and see no reason to break my
promise to Cheri.
I hope Terry does as well.
Terry J. Wood
626950...@a5g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
> It sounds like Cheri really loves the place.
>
Perhaps she does.
I know from my own experience that I love my naturist club and enjoy going
there. I wouldn't want to see anything happen to it.
Jenny6833A
> Jenny6833A <Jenny68...@aol.com> wrote in news:4d9b0b2f-b6fe-4a02-a2e2-
> 62695057b...@a5g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>
> > It sounds like Cheri really loves the place.
>
> Perhaps she does.
Then she should treat it ethically. Spreading rumors isn't ethical.
> I know from my own experience that I love my naturist club and enjoy going
> there. �I wouldn't want to see anything happen to it.
I wouldn't want anything to happen to any of mine either.
:-)
Jenny
Anna
Cheri you are a well known and established nudist who have spent years
fighting for nudism. Therefore you have gained the credibility that
justifies people taking your word for it.
I know people are going to think I am happy to see another facility
fall. No, I hate being right about things like this. Experience (not
on nudism but in other organizations) has taught me about how
organizations can get corrupted within by evil people with an
objective who infiltrate and then corrupt a group and turn it into the
exact opposite of what it is supposed to be (ie Catholic Church,
Republican Party) but that doesn't mean I wish it wasn't so. I don't
like that I am right more often than not about such things, but I
can't bury my head in the sand. As much as I wish I didn't have to, I
do have to live in the real world. And in the real world evil tends to
be successful in infiltrating and corrupting good organizations.
Perhaps some day I will write a long essay on how they do it and why
they are successful, but I don't feel like doing so at the moment
Again, I have seen this occur time and time again. I was involved in
the Republican Party only to see the RINOS infiltrate and turn that
institution into the exact opposite of what it is supposed to be.
Heck, it has come to a point where I now have voted for more Democrats
over the years than Republicans because as bad as the Democrats were
the greater evil would be for the RINO to win. So, yeah, not with
nudist groups but with others the group seems to always fall from a
focused attack by an enemy with a plan. The good people don't even
see it coming, and by the time they realize what happened (if they
ever do) it is too late and the infiltrator has won.
Cheri, thank you for informing everyone about Carolina Foothills. The
reputation you have developed for yourself over the years should make
people heed your warning or at least to be very careful when
approaching this place themselves.
And, I know none of you believe it, I do mourn its lost. I hate it
when I am right about things like this. But, I seem to always be.
I so, so wish it wasn't so. Ideally nudism seems great, If it wasn't
for all those damn humans messing things up.
Anna
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Thank you Cheri, I understand now and don't blame you.
>
> (Privacy will be Maintained)
Yeah, I don't know what is going on but I have seen so many similar
things go on in situations like this that I can probably guess. Evil,
when challenged can really inflict some serious damage. It is one of
the reasons it can be so successful.
So, I understand the care that you must use. I hope others understand
as well and because of the good reputation you do have they take it
upon your word. You have never given any reason for people to doubt
you and we know enough about you to know that you are a "real person"
and a person with integrity.
Anna
wrote:
> Seems the chosen few can know the facts, but the rest of us can only
> guess...
>
> Using supposed usenet legalities as a reason not to publish facts is
> simply a cop out, which makes this thread thus far a crock of shit!
Evil can really lash out and harm those who stand up to it. Surely as
an evil person yourself you know that.
That is why evil is so often successful. And evil most always beats
good.
Now Good People can defeat evil but only by fighting fire with fire
and adopting evil tactics themselves. And of course being good people,
adopting evil tactics isn't really in their nature and they have to
really be pushed to a breaking point before they become willing to get
their hands dirty in such a manner.
But again, being evil yourself you know that. Good people though need
to learn to embrace their dark side and while not letting it overtake
them, not fear it to the point that they can't use it in the service
of good.
For it is much better to do evil than to be evil.
Anna
Terry's a leftist and therefore far far less likely to keep her word.
Anna
> On May 25, 8:03 pm, "Terry J. Wood" <TerryJW...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Jenny6833A <Jenny68...@aol.com> wrote in news:4d9b0b2f-b6fe-4a02-a2e2-
> > 62695057b...@a5g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > It sounds like Cheri really loves the place.
>
> > Perhaps she does.
>
> Then she should treat it ethically. Spreading rumors isn't ethical.
Well, in a perfect world you are right. But we don't live in a perfect
word so she is doing the best she can under the situation.
It really is a lesser of two evils case for her. And I commend her on
how she is handling it.
Anna
But sometimes things happen. And it doesn't help things by just
ignoring them. It doesn't make them go away by pretending they aren't
there.
Anna
>
> > Jenny6833A <Jenny68...@aol.com> wrote in news:4d9b0b2f-b6fe-4a02-a2e2-
> > 62695057b...@a5g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > It sounds like Cheri really loves the place.
>
> > Perhaps she does.
I am sure this is the last thing she would have wanted to happen.
> Then she should treat it ethically. Spreading rumors isn't ethical.
Well, in a perfect world you might be right. But in this world it is
better for a lover of the truth to tell a lie than for a liar to tell
the truth.
Cheri have proven her personal credibility through years of service to
the nudist community. Therefore she should be believed or at the very
least people should think twice before going to this place and should
appropriate this place if at all then with caution.
Anna
I meant to type if they do APPROACH this place they should do so
carefully.
Cheri I don't know the specifics of what is happening with you but I
do know how evil works and I believe you are being as ethical as
possible given the care you need to take and the fact this isn't a
perfect world. You are balancing things very well.
Zee
>
> - Show quoted text -
Anna....please explain why the details cannot be reported by not using
names.....full disclosure is the only way to go....then folks can know
the truth....is nudism not ready for full disclosure...they expect it
out of everybody else.....otherwise cheri appears to be a crank...like
Tony said her credibility is destroyed....jz
Anna
> Jenny6833A <Jenny68...@aol.com> wrote in news:4d9b0b2f-b6fe-4a02-a2e2-
> 62695057b...@a5g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>
>
> Perhaps she does.
>
> I know from my own experience that I love my naturist club and enjoy going
> there. I wouldn't want to see anything happen to it.
But here is my concern. Of course what you say is natural. You don't
want to see anything that disrupts the fun at your place.
But then someone comes with charges of Molestation. Well, that person
is being a disruption.
So, it would be natural to want to bury such charges.
I am certainly not saying this is unique to nudist clubs. In fact I
am saying the exact opposite. I am saying this is something I have
seen in various different settings. The person bringing the charges is
bringing the disharmony. So, that tends to make people hostile to the
person even though that person might be a victim. It is a lot easier
for people to just ignore the charges.
Jenny6833A
Cheri is certainly well known, due to her indefatigueable self-
publicity and her nearly equally indefatigueable flackery in behalf of
her for-profit party planning business. To a much lesser but still
substantial degree, she's well known for unsubstantiated gossip aimed
at harming any person or group she doesn't like -- especially any
person/group that ignores her wishes or refutes her nasty gossip.
>�Therefore you have gained the credibility that justifies people taking your word for it.
Cheri is credible only with those who regard James Dobson as credible
on similar topics. They're pees in a pod.
Whatever Cheri may actually think, she acts as if she were Queen of
the Universe, a Queen whose decrees are to unquestionably obeyed just
because Cheri is Queen.
Again and again, Cheri issues decrees while refusing to provide
checkable data to justify anything she says. Her excuses vary from
'legal reasons' (she doesn't want to be sued for slander, libel, and/
or defamation) to a reluctant admission that she has no first hand
information but 'I got the story from someone whose name I can't
reveal but whom I trust implicitly."
Cheri is just another power-seeking gossip who operates like the old
time gossip columnists: do as I say or I'll ruin you!
:-)
Jenny
Lane
a63ae4...@y33g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
> They're pees in a pod.
>
I think I may be stuck with that mental image for a while. <shudder>
--
Lane
Dan Abel
<7917b08f-9610-4193...@y33g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Jenny6833A <Jenny...@aol.com> wrote:
> On May 26, 10:49?am, Anna <annalidd...@lycos.com> wrote:
> > On May 25, 9:43 am, Cheri <cherido...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> > > ? Jenny, it was a LOT more than that.
> >
> > > ?Cheriwww.travelites.info
> >
> > Cheri you are a well known and established nudist who have spent years
> > fighting for nudism.
> >?Therefore you have gained the credibility that justifies people taking your
> >word for it.
>
> Cheri is credible only with those who regard James Dobson as credible
> on similar topics.
I feel sorry for Cheri. You should also, Jenny. Imagine being
supported by Anna!
Of course, Anna is only in this because Cheri has attacked a nudist
venue. Anna would like them all shut down (or at least not patronized)
because "they can't work".
--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net
TheWhiteCockatoo
wrote:
Yep, This thread was ridiculous a bunch of messages back and became
even moreso with the irrelevant ravings from one who has never, and
never will, visit a nudist resort by his own admission.
Without attacking anyones personal credibility this thread has
absolutely no credibility in itself.
No facts at all from anyone anywhere means this thread has simply
become another place for Anna to spout his usual crap, but at least we
all know now just to ignore everything that comes from it as
irrelevant ramblings from a social misfit.
Anna - Get a life you pathetic piece of excrement!
Anyone else, particularly Cheri - Any facts to back up the initial
post???
Possible legal action be damned! Hasn't seemed to matter a number of
times in the past!
Ahh.... but there is a positive out of all this.... The
unsubstantiated allegations levelled against a number of US, &
Canadian, nudist places in this forum are giving me a perfect
itinerary for places to stay when we visit the states next time.
Every time another one gets attacked I add it to my list of places to
stay, as I'll know that I won't have to deal with any of the
discriminatory ill-informed idiots on here when visiting ;-)
Anna
Well, of course I would prefer that she be specific. But there are
several situations I could think of where her being specific could
bring harm upon herself or others. Say what she saw happened to
someone else and she just witnessed it. A minor for example. Posting
that here would be posting information the minor might very well even
though the minor was a victim, still find embarrassing. The minor (or
even if the person isn't a minor) might not feel strong enough to face
the embarrassment.
And of course the bad guy could always threaten a lawsuit and we know
in an imperfect world even if someone is in the wrong sometimes they
prevail. The good guy doesn't always win in court, especially if the
bad guy has more money that he is willing to use to pursue his lawsuit
and a willingness to made life a living hell through the lawsuit.
So, because I know the lengths bad people would go to in order to
crush people who will stand up against them while of course I would
rather her take a full stand, sometimes, in an imperfect world such a
stand just isn't possible. I allow Cheri whatever protections she
feels she needs. Again, this is an imperfect world and sometimes the
best we can do is the best that can be done. In an imperfect world
that is all we can expect.
Cheri is doing more than what most would who find themselves in such a
situation. And for that she deserves much credit.
Terry J. Wood
68-245-199.per.connect.net.au:
> Anna would like them all shut down (or at least not patronized)
> because "they can't work".
If that's the case, I would suggest that "Anna" not visit any of them.
Everyone else should visit the businesses that they like, whether that be
Ponderosa, Bonanza, "Liddell House" on the Prairie, The Grand Barn,
The Grand Lido or Hedonism II.
Adults can make up their own minds what is right for them. Some of these
places make work. Some of them may not. Some of these places may not even
exist.
But AMERICANs should always have the right to CHOOSE -- even if that's a
LIBERAL notion. (Other nationals should consult with their own neo-cons
(if they are currently in power) as to whether they might have any right to
choose for themselves).
Terry J. Wood
4de5-83df-4...@a5g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
> No facts at all from anyone anywhere means this thread has simply
> become another place for Anna to spout his usual crap,
Yes, but you don't have to enable "Anna" by reading it. Why should you let
an admitted non-nudist set the agenda?
TheWhiteCockatoo
> TheWhiteCockatoo <i...@thewhitecockatoo.com> wrote in news:466b4af0-bb95-
> 4de5-83df-4466093bd...@a5g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>
> > No facts at all from anyone anywhere means this thread has simply
> > become another place for Anna to spout his usual crap,
>
> Yes, but you don't have to enable "Anna" by reading it. Why should you let
> an admitted non-nudist set the agenda?
I apologise if I gave the impression I actually read "Annas" posts.
At the very most I have a quick glance at them only to find the usual
repetitive rants of a raving lunatic, therefore just pass them by.
So no, Under no circumstances do I allow "Anna" to have any influence
on my life whatsoever, but then I'm guessing you'd be hard pressed to
find anyone anywhere who does ;-)
I feel for those who put any stock at all in "Annas" words, and feel
extreme pity for Cheri that she is now aligned with "Anna" ;-)
Terry J. Wood
4563-adfc-b...@r31g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
> I feel for those who put any stock at all in "Annas" words, and feel
> extreme pity for Cheri that she is now aligned with "Anna" ;-)
Keep in mind that if "Anna" supports your post, that doesn't necessarily
mean that YOU support "Anna" or are aligned with "her".
Zee
>
> - Show quoted text -
bawahahahehe.....ya just gotta luv these lunatic nudist Anna....it
might appear to a lurker that things get so profoundly nuthouse stupid
around rec nude that you and i have to troll one another.....while
miss terry talks fast to keep us from reminding her that hey who
called the cops....aint that what they always say....man these kids
are safer in a nudist camp than anywhere else on the planet....ha ha
he he.....then our cherie reports something bad but cant say what it
is....how can we help terry and her tribal nut cases save face....even
cyndiann is scratchin er head wondering what the hell is going on
here....we are supposed to be hearing about the cop cars showing up
and doing an investigation....but it is all hush hush .....just
exactly like ol jonZeee has said soooo many times that it is.....sure
that kid jack in off proved the lie about kids not being sexual and
that nude sex organs are sexual when exposed...period.....so this crap
in this thread is all embarrassing to all nudist it seems except you
and i.....i do want to emphasize one point that you can take to the
bank.....never never never even consider that when a peer group is all
soooo guilty such as nudist including terry and her tribal
kind....none none none every attempt to sue anyone because of
exposure....of course i am not advocating names be used ....but i have
used names of the top folks but not the bottom....when i see the
president of the asa or aanr hustling little naked girl magazines on
national tv...ie fox news...then you bet i will nail his ass in a ny
second.....so cheri can say what happened and careful with the names
and bet her life there will never be a law suit against anyone.....the
courts are so disgusted with nudist that they would throw coffee in
their faces if they showed up to sue anyone.....take that to the bank
and insist she tell us what this crap is about and tell us if the cops
were called....everyone sure is quite about the issue of calling cops
since this thread ...Gawd i luv it...regards....jz
stinso...@hotmail.com
<Jenny...@aol.com> wrote:
>On May 25, 9:43?am, Cheri <cherido...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>> For legal reasons, I cannot
>> publically post on the usenet newsgroup.
>
>I am simply appalled! If Cheri Alezxander doesn't have the guts to
>provide the details publicly, or at least provide a checkable
>overview, then why in blazes did she post at all?
One would think that, to a woman of your intelligence, it would be
glaringly obvious. Maybe you should read the header.
>This is exactly the kind of fact-free character assasination
Unsubstantiated assertion on your part.
>We're all
>supposed to boycott some specific resort JUST BECAUSE CHERI-THE-SELF-
>ANNOINTED SAYS SO.
No, not all of us. Just the ones who respect her opinion. YMMV.
>Cheri Alexander is well on her way to becoming the Senator Joseph
>McCarthy of nudism.
Because you say so? Pot, kettle, black.
>> ? Jenny, it was a LOT more than that.
>
>Oh, two guys (or gals) held hands? Some mixed race couple held
>hands? Some Cheri-approved couple held hands longer than the 12.5
>seconds Cheri-the-self-appointed-dictator allows?
Fairly despicable accusation, even coming from you.
-T.
Jenny6833A
> On Mon, 25 May 2009 10:29:50 -0700 (PDT), Jenny6833A
>
Tom, you do a suberb job of extracting phrases from their context, and
even then your comments don't hold water.
:-)
Jenny
Anna
And you ☭Jenny do a superb job proving that you are not merely wrong,
but indeed evil.
TheWhiteCockatoo
malicious, and vexatious attacks over the years with no basis in fact,
this thread is absolutely without any credibility whatsoever and if
the person who started it had any credibility whatsoever herself she
would have responded long before now!
To start any thread in the manner Cheri started this one using
possible legal ramifications as a reason for not posting facts is the
biggest crock of shit I've seen in a long while.
You simply cannot be sued for stating facts, so let's see the bloody
facts Cheri???
You've jumped on here and created a firestorm and then disappeared.
What's the deal with that???
And for the fools who are blindly following with no more facts than I
- What's the deal with that???
Christ almighty..... Next thing we know Cheri will be saying if we all
jump of Niagra Falls we'll achieve ultimate health and happiness -
One can only assume you fools fllowing now with no facts will all also
blindly follow then as well! (mind you this could be a blessing if
some did just that)
Furthermore.... You've jumped on here Cheri and started this topic yet
your own website stilll clearly shows great support for Carolina
Foothills, SC. What's the deal with that???
Time for some answers Cheri....
So to repeat your own words yet again, Cheri:
Article
We look forward to returning over FrogFest weekend, July 25-27. Cabin
1 is already rented. :)
The auction did get updated a little bit and can be seen under News
articles at www.travelites.info plus
http://pages.prodigy.net/travelites/_wsn/page7.html or below the
upcoming events.
The next gathering will be a clothed "Introduction to Nudism" at our
property on May 31. The event begins at 4pm with a short seminar on
nudism/naturism followed by two 13-min. videos from the national
organizations after which we'll have a potluck supper at @6:30. After
dinner the house and deck will be clothing optional and the hot tub
will be nude only. This would be a good time to bring your reluctant
friend, girlfriend, or someone you met who expressed some interest.
June 14th is the club's birthday party. Come and celebrate our 21st
year and the beginning of our 22nd. There will be grilled hamburgers/
cheeseburgers and birthday cake. Join us for a full day of relaxation
under the sun and dinner at 6:30. Gathering begins at 3 at our
property.
Remember, if you'd like to come and enjoy some sun au naturale and
don't have the availability at your home, give me/us a shout. The hot
tub is usually always open to friends.
Hugs, Cheri
John Reddy
<7917b08f-9610-4193...@y33g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Jenny6833A <Jenny...@aol.com> wrote:
> They're pees in a pod.
I can't decide if that is a misspelling or not.
Zee
> In article
> <7917b08f-9610-4193-958f-a63ae4d88...@y33g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Jenny6833A <Jenny68...@aol.com> wrote:
> > They're pees in a pod.
>
> I can't decide if that is a misspelling or not.
female militants.....jz
stinso...@hotmail.com
<Jenny...@aol.com> wrote:
>On May 26, 8:28?pm, stinson_h...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 May 2009 10:29:50 -0700 (PDT), Jenny6833A
>>
>> <Jenny68...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >On May 25, 9:43?am, Cheri <cherido...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> For legal reasons, I cannot
>> >> publically post on the usenet newsgroup.
>>
>> >I am simply appalled! ?If Cheri Alezxander doesn't have the guts to
>> >provide the details publicly, or at least provide a checkable
>> >overview, then why in blazes did she post at all?
>>
>> One would think that, to a woman of your intelligence, it would be
>> glaringly obvious. Maybe you should read the header.
>>
>> >This is exactly the kind of fact-free character assasination
>>
>> Unsubstantiated assertion on your part.
>>
>> >We're all
>> >supposed to boycott some specific resort JUST BECAUSE CHERI-THE-SELF-
>> >ANNOINTED SAYS SO.
>>
>> No, not all of us. Just the ones who respect her opinion. YMMV.
>>
>> >Cheri Alexander is well on her way to becoming the Senator Joseph
>> >McCarthy of nudism.
>>
>> Because you say so? Pot, kettle, black.
>>
>> >> ? Jenny, it was a LOT more than that.
>>
>> >Oh, two guys (or gals) held hands? ?Some mixed race couple held
>> >hands? ?Some Cheri-approved couple held hands longer than the 12.5
>> >seconds Cheri-the-self-appointed-dictator allows?
>>
>> Fairly despicable accusation, even coming from you.
>>
>> -T.
>
>Tom, you do a suberb job of extracting phrases from their context, and
>even then your comments don't hold water.
And you, m'dear, run just as well as Dan. You're operating on inuendo
and unsubstantiated accusation. If you are unable to take
responsibility for that, so be it. Maybe you're just being mean.
-T.
Dan Abel
<7577bf67-55b2-4eb5...@n7g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
TheWhiteCockatoo <in...@thewhitecockatoo.com> wrote:
> To my way of thinking, as one who has suffered numerous erroneous,
> malicious, and vexatious attacks over the years with no basis in fact,
> this thread is absolutely without any credibility whatsoever and if
> the person who started it had any credibility whatsoever herself she
> would have responded long before now!
While I sympathize with you, Tony, I also sympathize with Cheri. She
has strongly supported this place in the past, and if she no longer
supports it, I think she has some duty, not legal or formal, to say that
she no longer supports it. It would be best if she provided some
explanation, but it's clear that she won't.
Zee
> In article
> <7577bf67-55b2-4eb5-9aaa-6031cbdf6...@n7g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
>
> TheWhiteCockatoo <i...@thewhitecockatoo.com> wrote:
> > To my way of thinking, as one who has suffered numerous erroneous,
> > malicious, and vexatious attacks over the years with no basis in fact,
> > this thread is absolutely without any credibility whatsoever and if
> > the person who started it had any credibility whatsoever herself she
> > would have responded long before now!
>
> While I sympathize with you, Tony, I also sympathize with Cheri. She
> has strongly supported this place in the past, and if she no longer
> supports it, I think she has some duty, not legal or formal, to say that
> she no longer supports it. It would be best if she provided some
> explanation, but it's clear that she won't.
>
> --
> Dan Abel
> Petaluma, California USA
> da...@sonic.net
abel....she has already violated the aanr secret code of conduct....as
they do not utter their opinions on misbehavin clubs....the new comers
might find out and save their children from exploitation.....so in a
way cheri has taken an infant step of rebellion by offering her
opinion....one step at a time she may tell the whole story....some
day.....jz
Dan MacKay
>
> - Show quoted text -
Except that I did not "Run", I just refused to respond further when
Jenny hijacked my thread.
Casa Blanca Hot Spring
> then why in blazes did she post at all?
Didn't you read the subject line?
>>This is exactly the kind of fact-free character assasination
Not recommending a place is character assination? Even for a person like you, that's quite
a stretch.
>>We're all
>>supposed to boycott some specific resort
Please let us all know where a boycott was called for.
>>Cheri Alexander is well on her way to becoming the Senator Joseph
>>McCarthy of nudism.
Cheri does something positive for Naturism and nudism every day. What have you done lately
to promote it?
Casa Blanca Hot Spring
Perhaps in your country, Mate, but in the US, people are routinely sued for stating facts.
Rarely do they lose, but they still have to pay for their defense.
Zee
>
> - Show quoted text -
Peter.....here is another one....he scared and paranoid.....advising
someone to never speak even truth against a club...after ten years
that nudist clubs have been on the internet....zip...zero....no clubs
have been sued and neither have any truthful sayers been sued...and
they dont even have cheef around now to advise them......jz.
Casa Blanca Hot Spring
Considering that the fool who posted that is illiterate, it's probably not a misspelling
to it
Cheri
There are some clubs that have been sued. CFR is in the middle of
one to my knowledge (not me). There are others. AANR has also had at
least one case where the person who sued won with an out of court
settlement.
Cheri
www.travelites.info
Cheri
>
> - Show quoted text -
It's not the children who are an issue at CFR. In fact, all weekend
we saw none there.
Cheri
www.travelites.info
Cheri
wrote:
> To my way of thinking, as one who has suffered numerous erroneous,
> malicious, and vexatious attacks over the years with no basis in fact,
> this thread is absolutely without any credibility whatsoever and if
> the person who started it had any credibility whatsoever herself she
> would have responded long before now!
>
> To start any thread in the manner Cheri started this one using
> possible legal ramifications as a reason for not posting facts is the
> biggest crock of shit I've seen in a long while.
>
> You simply cannot be sued for stating facts, so let's see the bloody
> facts Cheri???
>
> You've jumped on here and created a firestorm and then disappeared.
> What's the deal with that???
>
> And for the fools who are blindly following with no more facts than I
> - What's the deal with that???
>
> Christ almighty..... Next thing we know Cheri will be saying if we all
> jump of Niagra Falls we'll achieve ultimate health and happiness -
> One can only assume you fools fllowing now with no facts will all also
> blindly follow then as well! (mind you this could be a blessing if
> some did just that)
>
> Furthermore.... You've jumped on here Cheri and started this topic yet
> your own website stilll clearly shows great support for Carolina
> Foothills, SC. What's the deal with that???
>
> Time for some answers Cheri....
>
> So to repeat your own words yet again, Cheri:
That is NOT a current article. It is VERY old. The complexion of
places can change in the course of a day, week, month or year. You
can go to a restaurant and sample a dish that the next time is
disappointing. With a change (hopefully) of the board in July, the
complexion will return to where it should be.
All references to that park have been deleted from www.travelites.info,
my club's official page.
Cheri
www.travelites.info
Cheri
Thanks for posting the link to this year's auction. Same as was in
prior yars.
> The next gathering will be a clothed "Introduction to Nudism" at our
> property on May 31. The event begins at 4pm with a short seminar on
> nudism/naturism followed by two 13-min. videos from the national
> organizations after which we'll have a potluck supper at @6:30. After
> dinner the house and deck will be clothing optional and the hot tub
> will be nude only. This would be a good time to bring your reluctant
> friend, girlfriend, or someone you met who expressed some interest.
Since this year, it's the 23rd celebration on July 13 with the
beginning of the 24th year,
it seems the article is over 2 yrs. old.
Zee
>
> - Show quoted text -
well that is the issue that always has folks holding their breath and
it is nice to hear that the kids are ok....a couple of questions i
would appreciate knowing the up to date....does ron and his wife still
active around the place and does the computer engineer still there in
the double wide as you look toward the gate from the club house and
slightly to the left....he had equiptment and did a lot of work
there....and did the guy that committed suicide named dan...was this
the same dan that had the problem over the child pictures he took to
get developed....i liked that guy he was liked there also....thanks in
advance.....jz
Richard C.
news:ffa325d0-d1bd-4380...@x6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
: abel....she has already violated the aanr secret code of conduct....as
: they do not utter their opinions on misbehavin clubs....
=========================
Bullshit!
I have stated my opinions on such clubs several times!
Zee
> "Zee" <jonZ...@webtv.net> wrote in message
========================== richard....but it disolves at
the aanr....and your work was all in vain.....jz
Dan M
> "Zee" <jonZ...@webtv.net> wrote in message
Reality is irrelevant to certain people.
Please do not cause confusion by posting Facts.
:0)
cynd...@earthlink.net
> On May 25, 8:03�pm, "Terry J. Wood" <TerryJW...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Jenny6833A <Jenny68...@aol.com> wrote in news:4d9b0b2f-b6fe-4a02-a2e2-
>> 62695057b...@a5g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> It sounds like Cheri really loves the place.
>> Perhaps she does.
>
I know from my own experience that she doesn't limit the word games to
the resorts. She's gone after me many times, mostly privately so it
can't be verified.
cynd...@earthlink.net
>> Cheri you are a well known and established nudist who have spent years
>> fighting for nudism.
>
> Cheri is certainly well known, due to her indefatigueable self-
> publicity and her nearly equally indefatigueable flackery in behalf of
> her for-profit party planning business. To a much lesser but still
> substantial degree, she's well known for unsubstantiated gossip aimed
> at harming any person or group she doesn't like -- especially any
> person/group that ignores her wishes or refutes her nasty gossip.
>
>> Therefore you have gained the credibility that justifies people taking your word for it.
>
> Cheri is credible only with those who regard James Dobson as credible
> on similar topics. They're pees in a pod.
>
> Whatever Cheri may actually think, she acts as if she were Queen of
> the Universe, a Queen whose decrees are to unquestionably obeyed just
> because Cheri is Queen.
>
> Again and again, Cheri issues decrees while refusing to provide
> checkable data to justify anything she says. Her excuses vary from
> 'legal reasons' (she doesn't want to be sued for slander, libel, and/
> or defamation) to a reluctant admission that she has no first hand
> information but 'I got the story from someone whose name I can't
> reveal but whom I trust implicitly."
>
> Cheri is just another power-seeking gossip who operates like the old
> time gossip columnists: do as I say or I'll ruin you!
>
> :-)
>
> Jenny
Great post Jenny! You said it better than I ever could.
cyndiann
TheWhiteCockatoo
The article is less than 12 months old being written 30th May 2008 as
you will have clearly seen when deleting from your site!
TheWhiteCockatoo
The article is less than 12 months old being written 30th May 2008 as
you will have clearly seen when deleting from your site!
To suggest otherwise only adds to the lack of credibility this thread
that you started has.
Anna
Yes, and I have commended you for it. But you are an exception. Most
don't speak out.
By the way, have you spoken to LARC yet about them hosting Critical
Massive again? I thought they had learned from what happened last
time.
Anna
Absolutely. Look at Paradise Lakes. Look at the Four Seasons.
Anna
wrote:
>
> The article is less than 12 months old being written 30th May 2008 as
> you will have clearly seen when deleting from your site!
So? Things can change overnight.
This only gives her more credibility as she had no previous beef with
the club. I am sure she feels great sadness in what happened and I
commend her for standing up to it!
She has already lost a club that she loves because of this. Whatever
protections she believes she needs I am not going to begrudge her.
TheWhiteCockatoo
>
> All references to that park have been deleted fromwww.travelites.info,
> my club's official page.
> Cheriwww.travelites.info- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Really??? All references deleted???
Well why is it then you are still promoting an event there for Sept
this year???
LMAO!!!
Information
Event Name
Labor Day Weekend at Carolina Foothills
Organization
Travelites
Dates & Times
Date Day Time
Sep 5th, 2009
Saturday
Sep 6th, 2009 Sunday
Sep 7th, 2009 Monday
Description
9/5-9/7
http://www.carolinafoothills.com - Let Travelites make your
reservations
Location
Chesnee, SC
Casa Blanca Hot Spring
On being sued for telling the truth, a defunct club on the wrong side of the tracks owned
by low lifes was selling sex toys and XXX videos in their office, in plain view of anyone
who entered. We told the truth about them to the association, which did nothing. The club
sued us. They failed, of course (again), but believe it, defending our having told the
truth was a ROYAL and expensive PITA.
TheWhiteCockatoo
Point taken and understood, and accepted that I was probably a bit
quick to make that statement without taking all the facts into
account.
Keep in mind that stats show that Australia is the 2nd most litigious
society, next to the US, on the planet so we do have similar BS
happening here as well.
Fortunately here if someone is sued and wins then all associated costs
are awarded to the winner, assuming they have the funds to put up a
good defence in the 1st place.
But I still believe using possible legal action as an excuse for not
posting some facts, in this instance, is a crock of shit as I've said!
Maybe I should voice some opinions abouts Cheri's actions in this case
and wait for the lawsuit. Oop, others already have ;-)
stinso...@hotmail.com
<in...@thewhitecockatoo.com> wrote:
>But I still believe using possible legal action as an excuse for not
>posting some facts, in this instance, is a crock of shit as I've said!
And you base your "belief" on what, exactly?
-T.
Terry J. Wood
4ax.com:
>>But I still believe using possible legal action as an excuse for not
>>posting some facts, in this instance, is a crock of shit as I've said!
> And you base your "belief" on what, exactly?
I "belief" that it's the fact the he's in another country and it's highly
unlikely that anyone here would undertake the expense to sue HIM! :-)
It's easy to say it's a "crock" when you're not footing the bill. If I were
in her place I might do the same.
TheWhiteCockatoo
> On Thu, 28 May 2009 20:59:01 -0700 (PDT), TheWhiteCockatoo
>
> >But I still believe using possible legal action as an excuse for not
> >posting some facts, in this instance, is a crock of shit as I've said!
>
> And you base your "belief" on what, exactly?
>
> -T.
I base my belief on the fact that in both America and Australia, and I
quote: "Truth is a complete defense to a defamation charge, but a
defendant does not have to prove the literal truth of a defamatory
statement to prevail. An effective defense can rely on the substantial
truth doctrine. Under the substantial truth doctrine, a defamatory
statement is First Amendment-protected if it is factually similar to
the pleaded truth, and does not differ from the truth by more than
immaterial details."
I wonder if the problem Cheri has in not providing facts here has more
to do with her husband physically assaulting 2 people at Carolina
Foothills Resort, rather than anything else....
Terry J. Wood
45a9-b336-4...@p4g2000vba.googlegroups.com:
> Truth is a complete defense to a defamation charge
It sure is. Now if only attorney's fees were paid by the state or the losing
party, "Truth" would be a cost effective defense.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_rule_(legal_term)
Dan Abel
"Terry J. Wood" <Terry...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> TheWhiteCockatoo <in...@thewhitecockatoo.com> wrote in news:b19e65d1-7271-
> 45a9-b336-4...@p4g2000vba.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Truth is a complete defense to a defamation charge
>
> It sure is. Now if only attorney's fees were paid by the state or the losing
> party, "Truth" would be a cost effective defense.
Life gets worse. My brother and his wife are in the middle of a legal
fracas. My wife got into a business dispute with her former employer.
He made some demands, and she refused. So he had her thrown in jail.
Since he wasn't suing her, it didn't cost him a penny. She hired an
attorney and an accountant, for US$50,000. When it went to trial, the
prosecutor admitted he had no case. But the US$50,000 was already
spent. So they are suing. But the doctor still isn't paying a penny!
His insurance company is paying for the defense.
Terry J. Wood
68-245-199.per.connect.net.au:
> So they are suing. But the doctor still isn't paying a penny!
> His insurance company is paying for the defense.
I would guess this is because the insurance company is the one liable
should your brother's wife prevail. The insurance company would be on the
hook for the settlement.
I remember listening to Bruce William's (talk radio) program one evening.
A fellow called in and asked Bruce about how much insurance he should be
carrying on his automobile. He stated that his policy covered him to one
hundred thousand dollars.
Bruce replied "YOU'RE NAKED! ABSOLUTELY NAKED!"
[This is how I work naturist content into this post.]
He noted that these days you could easily exceed $100,000 in an accident.
All you needed to do was hit a couple of Mercedes.
Bruce then went on to say that the guy should by a supplemental policy to
add to his coverage, suggesting a one million dollar policy. Bruce noted
that in the event of an accident "think of the legal defense team that
much coverage would buy". What he meant was, with the insurance company
on the hook for up to 1 million, they would have their legal team there to
make sure you had the best shot at not losing, because they were the ones
who'd have to pay the claim.
The next day I went down and purchased such a policy. For less than 50
cents per day I am covered. It not only covers my cars, but also covers
my house too!
Jenny6833A
> Bruce then went on to say that the guy should by a supplemental policy to
> add to his coverage, suggesting a one million dollar policy. �Bruce noted
> that in the event of an accident "think of the legal defense team that
> much coverage would buy". �What he meant was, with the insurance company
> on the hook for up to 1 million, they would have their legal team there to
> make sure you had the best shot at not losing, because they were the ones
> who'd have to pay the claim.
>
> The next day I went down and purchased such a policy. �For less than 50
> cents per day I am covered. �It not only covers my cars, but also covers
> my house too!
Umbrellas sure do stop a lot of rain!
However, read them _very_ carefully. Ours changed a few years ago,
and hubby happened to be in the mood to read it carefully. Lo and
behold, they'd eliminated all coverage for anything remotely related
to nudity. Like, if I bump someone in a beach volleyball game and s/
he breaks a leg, I'm not covered if either of us is nude. We threw a
fit at both the agent and the company, and got nowhere. So, new
company and new policies!
:-)
Jenny
Dan M
> After this weekend, I can no longer recommend visiting Carolina
> Foothills, in
> Chesnee, SC
>
> Cheri
Thank you for your recommendation Cheri.
Many of us value your opinion and trust your instincts.
cynd...@earthlink.net
And many more know better.
Dan MacKay
>> Cheri
And many more know better than to listen to CyanideAnn.
TheWhiteCockatoo
And it's very much getting to the stage Dan that no-one is taking any
notice of your opinions Dan with these now constant personal attacks
on others!
cynd...@earthlink.net
That is what kill files are for!
cyndiann
Dan MacKay
wrote:
You mean like the personal attacks of others upon people like Cheri???
TheWhiteCockatoo
> > > And many more know better than to listen to CyanideAnn.
>
> > And it's very much getting to the stage Dan that no-one is taking any
> > notice of your opinions Dan with these now constant personal attacks
> > on others!
>
> You mean like the personal attacks of others upon people like Cheri???- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Fair call Dan,
Although 2 wrongs don't make a right ;-)
Edunnam
wrote:
So how soon should we expect someone to apologize to Cheri??
Anna
Maybe not in an idyllic world.
But in the real world sometimes it DOES take one wrong to correct
another.
Yeah, this isn't the kind of morality you might have learned in Sunday
School.
Too bad life isn't like it is portrayed in Sunday School.
Casa Blanca Hot Spring
TWC,
Of all the disrespected posters here, you're in the Top Five, maybe even the Top Three.
So, why don't you say goodbye and stay lost? Being out to lunch seems to be a chronic
condition for you, totally out of touch with Naturist values.
Yes, there should be more clubs for sexpreds, such as yours, but you'd be well advised to
stop trying to promote yourself by pretending to be Naturist and instead describing
yourself for what you are.
Naturally Nude,
Bill Pennington
"TheWhiteCockatoo" <in...@thewhitecockatoo.com> wrote in message
news:a4a6411c-1e24-407b...@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
Casa Blanca Hot Spring
Commenting on totally-lacking-in-credibility cyanideann is not a personal attack. It's an
accurate description of a factual situation.
"TheWhiteCockatoo" <in...@thewhitecockatoo.com> wrote in message
news:fc7b0377-3948-4b28...@b1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
Lane
news:o7OdnajpRetg3b7X...@earthlink.com:
> TWC,
>
> Of all the disrespected posters here, you're in the Top Five, maybe
> even the Top Three.
>
ROFL!!!
--
Lane
Dan MacKay
> "Casa Blanca Hot Spring" <CasaBlancaHotSpr...@mindspring.com> wrote innews:o7OdnajpRetg3b7X...@earthlink.com:
>
> > TWC,
>
> > Of all the disrespected posters here, you're in the Top Five, maybe
> > even the Top Three.
>
> ROFL!!!
>
> --
> Lane
And then we have #1, "Lane".
stinso...@hotmail.com
<CasaBlanc...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>Commenting on totally-lacking-in-credibility cyanideann is not a personal attack. It's an
>accurate description of a factual situation.
Crap. I'm going to call horseshit on this one. Yes, she seems partial
to grudges. Yes, there are aspects of her that seem a bit out there.
However, she is reliable much of the time.
-T.
(Cyanide???????? Hardly.)
Dan MacKay
> On Sun, 31 May 2009 20:48:12 -0600, "Casa Blanca Hot Spring"
>
>
> >Commenting on totally-lacking-in-credibility cyanideann is not a personal attack. It's an
> >accurate description of a factual situation.
>
> Crap. I'm going to call horseshit on this one. Yes, she seems partial
> to grudges. Yes, there are aspects of her that seem a bit out there.
> However, she is reliable much of the time.
>
> -T.
> (Cyanide???????? Hardly.)
Yeah, that is an insult to a decent toxin.
TheWhiteCockatoo
Obviously I'll have to work harder.
I so want to be #1 ;-)
TheWhiteCockatoo
that said: After this weekend, I can no longer recommend visiting
Carolina Foothills, in Chesnee, SC
Whereupon some questions were asked as to why... whereupon legal
ramifications were used as an excuse for not providing any facts....
whereupon (to cut a long whereupon story short) I questioned the
credibility of this thread.... etc
So I find it rather strange that no-one has made any comment on a
paragraph that I posted a few days back, especially Cheri, that said:
I wonder if the problem Cheri has in not providing facts here has more
to do with her husband physically assaulting 2 people at Carolina
Foothills Resort, rather than anything else....
There's a lot more to the story, naturally, but for legal reasons I
can't elucidate further.
Of course I'm always happy to be proved wrong, with facts of course,
because the credibility of this thread is important to me.
My credibility??? According to Bill Pennington it is f--ked, which
causes me great distress, but this thread ain't about me so I'll
simply continue to focus simply ;-)
Regards
Tony Fox
@ The World Famous White Cockatoo
w: http://tropicsnude.com
e: i...@thewhitecockatoo.com
p. +61 7 40982222
f. +61 7 40982221
9 Alchera Drive,
Mossman, Qld 4873,
Australia
stinso...@hotmail.com
<in...@thewhitecockatoo.com> wrote:
>I wonder if the problem Cheri has in not providing facts here has more
>to do with her husband physically assaulting 2 people at Carolina
>Foothills Resort, rather than anything else....
I assumed it was bait. I haven't seen any cause to change my mind.
>There's a lot more to the story, naturally, but for legal reasons I
>can't elucidate further.
Riiiiight.
>Of course I'm always happy to be proved wrong, with facts of course,
>because the credibility of this thread is important to me.
Okay. Well, good luck with that.
-T.
Terry J. Wood
407b-85cc-0...@r33g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:
> And it's very much getting to the stage Dan that no-one is taking any
> notice of your opinions Dan with these now constant personal attacks
> on others!
I hope he won't have to resort to changing his e-mail address and gender!
cynd...@earthlink.net
Well wouldn't you have a grudge if someone intentionally contacted your
club and lied about you to the management? That's what Bill Pennington did.
And Cheri has caused me problems for many years, stabbing me in the back
at every opportunity. The websites I was banned from? Cheri was
instrumental in many of those. For a long time nobody thought either
would do anything like that but that is thankfully changing. I'm not the
only victim of either one of them.
cyndiann
stinso...@hotmail.com
I try very hard not to have grudges. That said, I acknowledge thers's
some bad blood among the three of you, likely justified.
Unfortunately, you all make valuable contributions to the group, so I
value you all and try not to get involved in the feuds.
-T.
Casa Blanca Hot Spring
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@~!~~!!~~~~!!!
Sad Case for a sad case who created all of it's own problems.
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Casa Blanca Hot Spring
Anyone who knows Cheri's husband, Allen, a true Southern Gentleman, knows what an idiotic
statement that is.
Naked Daddy
Terry J. Wood
I've never met the man, but given that he's a lawyer, the senario seemed
highly unlikely.
Stuffed Tiger
Yeah. I have to go with Dan defending Cheri, but I agree that is no
reason to put Cyndiann down. Nudists/Naturists need to get over our
differences as much as possible. There are big powerful institutions
out there looking to crush us in any number of ways. We need all the
support and diversity we can manage to put in our big tent, and when
we can't fit someone in our tent, we need to support them having their
own tent, and hope they support us in ours.
I'll take a conservative naturist like Richard any day over a liberal
prudist. I hope someday to meet him and shake his hand and thank him
for just the little I know that he has done for naturism.
Terry J. Wood
news:kk8b25didcovfs1i3...@4ax.com:
> I'll take a conservative naturist like Richard any day over a liberal
> prudist.
And I'd take a liberal nudist like Richard any day over a conservative
prudist! If Richard ever WERE to turn liberal! :-)
Eman Neercs
Why would he ever want to do something like that?
Lane
news:e9663801-21ef-4e74...@j12g2000vbl.googlegroups.com:
Oh, I don't know. So people would stop laughing at him?
Oh, and *plonk*
--
Lane