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First Nudist-Resorts.org, now Cheri Alexander barred from Skinbook - but why??

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Dario Western

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Oct 25, 2009, 7:36:47 PM10/25/09
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Hi,

I only just found out about this today when I logged on into Skinbook, but
if there is one thing that dismays me about nudists (not all, but a good
many) is how some of them take a "Ding dong the witch is dead!" approach
when somebody gets barred or quits a group or network and then proceeds to
write negative stuff about them and rejoice in their misfortune (unless
they've been done for child abuse or posting child porn to it). To me this
smacks of cowardice, a trait that our species could definitely do without!

I am on a couple of other groups that she posts to as well like Young Adult
Nudists on Yahoo! groups, and it is almost always her one-woman-show with
the exception of 2 or 3 others who chime in a little bit every now and then
despite the fact that it has got over 6,000 members on it.

I think what she does not realise is that nudism/naturism has got many faces
apart from her 'G' rated Utopia where even a group like the Wiggles can take
part in it without any retribution. However this only happens in fairyland.

She once told me that if I had to speak in front of state legislators about
nudism I would have to take it VERY seriously, especially when I had a word
about her being a bit too harsh with the way she was taking her moderators
duties.

I know that I also push people's buttons on nudist forums at times so I can
identify with her somewhat, but unlike her I do accept the fact that it is a
multi-facted activity. The biggest irony is that she is one of the most
enthusiastic posters on the rec.nude group which has no moderators, and is
friends with Peter Riden who is one of the most liberal minded nudists who
has ever graced the planet.

Skinbook's site is at http://skinbook.ning.com

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Best wishes,

Dario Western

"In order to be what you want to be you've got to learn to be everything
you're not" - Alicia Moore (aka P!nk)
(07) 3267-6789
(0437) 428-859

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Zee

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Oct 25, 2009, 7:43:15 PM10/25/09
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On Oct 25, 6:36 pm, "Dario Western" <westernor...@nospamgmail.com>
wrote:
> Skinbook's site is athttp://skinbook.ning.com

>
> --
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Dario Western
>
> "In order to be what you want to be you've got to learn to be everything
> you're not" - Alicia Moore (aka P!nk)
> (07) 3267-6789
> (0437) 428-859
>
> http://www.myspace.com/fatpizzaman
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but "Dario....Cheri will prevail as there is a demand for a female
nudist poster....they do get the nod you know.....jz

D. Kirkpatrick

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Oct 26, 2009, 1:18:24 AM10/26/09
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In article <ji5Fm.49944$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
"Dario Western" <wester...@nospamgmail.com> wrote:

>
> Skinbook's site is at http://skinbook.ning.com
>
>

There were several moderators who were demoted and a number of other
general users who have left due to some disagreement.

Peter Riden

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Oct 26, 2009, 3:50:49 PM10/26/09
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When it comes to Cheri (Alexander), Dario and John, you both know that
yes she's a very good friend and, as rightly observed by you, Dario,
Cheri "is friends with Peter Riden who is one of the most liberal
minded nudists who has ever graced the planet. " at least for" the
most liberal minded" part if not necessarily for the "nudist" moniker
per say although many believe I fit well as a Nudist..;-)
That is to say that Cheri might appear more reserved and less all
outgoing when it comes to being free-spirited but our friendship stems
from our honesty in being who we are, yet Cheri is able to bridge in
the same way I'm able to bridge when we're non-judgmental of our
personal preferences and we both live and let live. John says it right
when it comes to Cheri prevailing..;-) She has quite the "resume" to
back herself in what she says and does. So I welcome if she appears to
have her one-woman show because she is active in promoting and
furthering the lifestyle she believes in.
If I could free myself of the requirements that come with keeping up
with a monster sized resort such as THE GRAND BARN, I'd be visiting
her for some of her nice get together at her place and I know I'd be
welcome in the same way that she's welcome at THE GRAND BARN.
She can be barred from wherever... I will not bar such a quality woman
from coming my way.
She has been very supportive and quite helpful in handling some of my
sneaky critics... I certainly do not forget that she has also quite
some intestinal fortitude and I welcome that.
When it comes to Cheri... I also know where to find such a friend and
we connect very well and I don't find her narrow-minded at all,
contrary to what some would want us to believe..;-)
In Friendship & Universality
Peter Riden {T.W.A.N. Founder}
http://www.the-worldwide-affiliate-network.com
{TGB Conceptor}: http://www.the-grand-barn.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Grand-Barn
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheGrandBarn

Cheri Alexander

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Nov 1, 2009, 2:09:07 PM11/1/09
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Thank you, Peter. The two moderators who were left to approve photos
or not on Skinbook were no longer given the option of removing the
individuals who posted photos that were against the rules. I don't
like having my hands tied when suposedly doing a job. It's like
saying "go ahead and ticket the speeders (to the police) but there are
no consequences."

I can be found as moderator or poster on the following Ning sites:
http://naturallynude.ning.com/
http://freerangenudist.ning.com
http://thenaturalfamily.ning.com
http://naturallynude.ning.com

BTW, Peter, we hope to install a pool and bunkhouse on our property
toward the end of 2010. You have a birthday coming up in a few
weeks. You missed mine on Oct. 19. LOL

Best regards, Cheri

Cheri Alexander

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Nov 1, 2009, 2:20:12 PM11/1/09
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Dario, It's not a one person show as it seems you are the only other
poster on that Yahoo group. I would be happy to not post as much if
others would take up the slack.

As far as NRO is concerned, I suggested a brand new nudist couple
visit Cypress Cove rather than Caliente for their first excursion . I
was told by the site owner (Kevin) that what I said was resort
bashing. He knew when he asked me to be a moderator that I was a
vanilla nudist and wouldn't stand for any less than G-rated
atmosphere. On both accounts at NRO and SB, I was not told of any
changes; they just happened. When things did change at SB, the site
owner, Karl, said that what I said was not true, I turned around and
posted his email to the moderators.

BTW, my sister was removed from SB for adding some Travelites events
that I requested her to as well as the 4 Ning sites that I now
frequent only. When a member on SB was spamming across the groups
with his UK event, leaving the group after he posted his HUGE file, he
was banned. He was reinstated by the SB site owners. These
individuals are young and very recent nudists. In fact, one of the
site owners is not as yet a nudist. I would very much like to know if
Travelites events are still in the groups and on that site.

Cheri
www.travelites. info

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>
> Thank you, Peter.   The two moderators who were left to approve photos
> or not on Skinbook were no longer given the option of removing the
> individuals who posted photos that were against the rules.  I don't
> like having my hands tied when suposedly doing a job.  It's like
> saying "go ahead and ticket the speeders (to the police) but there are
> no consequences."
>

> I can be found as moderator or poster on the following Ning sites:http://naturallynude.ning.com/http://freerangenudist.ning.comhttp://thenaturalfamily.ning.comhttp://naturallynude.ning.com


>
> BTW, Peter, we hope to install a pool and bunkhouse on our property
> toward the end of 2010.    You have a birthday coming up in a few
> weeks.  You missed mine on Oct. 19.  LOL
>

> Best regards, Cheri- Hide quoted text -

Peter Riden

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Nov 2, 2009, 1:07:43 PM11/2/09
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On Nov 1, 2:09 pm, Cheri Alexander <cherido...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> On Oct 26, 2:50 pm, Peter Riden <Affil...@the-grand-barn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 25, 6:43 pm, Zee <jonZ...@webtv.net> wrote:

>
> > > but "Dario....Cheri will prevail as there is a demand for a female
> > > nudist poster....they do get the nod you know.....jz
>
> > When it comes to Cheri (Alexander), Dario and John, you both know that
> > yes she's a very good friend and, as rightly observed by you, Dario,
> > Cheri "is friends with Peter Riden who is one of the most liberal
> > minded nudists who has ever graced the planet. " at least for" the
> > most liberal minded" part if not necessarily for the "nudist" moniker
> > per say although many believe I fit well as a Nudist..;-)
> > That is to say that Cheri might appear more reserved and less all
> > outgoing when it comes to being free-spirited but our friendship stems
> > from our honesty in being who we are, yet Cheri is able to bridge in
> > the same way I'm able to bridge when we're non-judgmental of our
> > personal preferences and we both live and let live. John says it right
> > when it comes to Cheri prevailing..;-) She has quite the "resume" to
> > back herself in what she says and does. So I welcome if she appears to
> > have her one-woman show because she is active in promoting and
> > furthering the lifestyle she believes in.
> > If I could free myself of the requirements that come with keeping up
> > with a monster sized resort such as THE GRAND BARN, I'd be visiting
> > her for some of her nice get together at her place and I know I'd be
> > welcome in the same way that she's welcome at THE GRAND BARN.

> > When it comes to Cheri... I also know where to find such a friend and
> > we connect very well and I don't find her narrow-minded at all,
> > contrary to what some would want us to believe..;-)
> > In Friendship & Universality
> > Peter Riden {T.W.A.N. Founder}http://www.the-worldwide-affiliate-network.com

> > {TGB Conceptor}:http://www.the-grand-barn.comhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Grand-...Hide quoted text -


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> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Thank you, Peter.   The two moderators who were left to approve photos
> or not on Skinbook were no longer given the option of removing the
> individuals who posted photos that were against the rules.  I don't
> like having my hands tied when suposedly doing a job.  It's like
> saying "go ahead and ticket the speeders (to the police) but there are
> no consequences."
>

> I can be found as moderator or poster on the following Ning sites:http://naturallynude.ning.com/http://freerangenudist.ning.comhttp://thenaturalfamily.ning.comhttp://naturallynude.ning.com


>
> BTW, Peter, we hope to install a pool and bunkhouse on our property
> toward the end of 2010.    You have a birthday coming up in a few
> weeks.  You missed mine on Oct. 19.  LOL
>
> Best regards, Cheri

Let's go to the Birthday(s) first, Beautiful!!
I'll have to not only mark it on my calendar which I probably did but
check it out more steadily... with all the friends I have some get
overviewed and in your case it should not. Haoy belated birthday to
you, Cheri... now just turning 30+... I mean looking wise..;-)
As you rightly point out Nov 25th is indeed the annual reminder that I
have been around for that many years... as in 30 X 2 this time
around..;-)
Of course, as always, you're most welcome to join in the celebrations
along with Allen..;-)
As for the subject matter being discussed... you know I'm there for
you and as mentioned about you... "She can be barred from wherever...


I will not bar such a quality woman from coming my way.
She has been very supportive and quite helpful in handling some of my
sneaky critics... I certainly do not forget that she has also quite
some intestinal fortitude and I welcome that."

And obviously Dario and many others have also strong respect for the
person you are, Cheri.
You take good care and till our mutual beeps again..;-)


In Friendship & Universality
Peter Riden {T.W.A.N. Founder}
http://www.the-worldwide-affiliate-network.com

http://www.the-grand-barn.com/777.HTM

Anna

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> > {TGB Conceptor}:http://www.the-grand-barn.comhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Grand-...Hide quoted text -

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> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Thank you, Peter.   The two moderators who were left to approve photos
> or not on Skinbook were no longer given the option of removing the
> individuals who posted photos that were against the rules.  I don't
> like having my hands tied when suposedly doing a job.  It's like
> saying "go ahead and ticket the speeders (to the police) but there are
> no consequences."
>
> I can be found as moderator or poster on the following Ning sites:http://naturallynude.ning.com/http://freerangenudist.ning.comhttp://thenaturalfamily.ning.comhttp://naturallynude.ning.com

>
> BTW, Peter, we hope to install a pool and bunkhouse on our property
> toward the end of 2010.    You have a birthday coming up in a few
> weeks.  You missed mine on Oct. 19.  LOL
>
> Best regards, Cheri

You know Peter is a scumbag don't you?

But at least he is decent enough to separate what he provides from
nudism. I have to give him credit for that.

John Purbrick

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Nov 2, 2009, 3:09:42 PM11/2/09
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> Best regards, Cheri

Maybe you'll recall that a few weeks ago I joined Skinbook, and
received a welcome message with your name on it. Then I replied to
that message saying thanks, but I'd already removed my name from
Skinbook as once I signed up, I found that people under 18 weren't
accepted. Not that I'm under that age (hardly!) but I think it's
important that naturism, or naturist groups, don't exclude young
people. Skinbook actually said that they were keeping the kids out for
"LEGAL and OBVIOUS" reasons, with capital letters! Of course anyone
who's the least bit familiar with the law knows that there are no such
restrictions, certainly not in Britain or the USA. That's true even if
there are pictures involved, unless it's porn, but then it's not
naturism.

I am sitting here with a "grim grin" kind of expression thinking about
how a few days after my quick trip into Skinbook and out again, you
were out too.

So can I ask you to save me some time, and tell us whether these four
groups are open to everyone? I'll join if so. If not, not.

John

Dario Western

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Nov 2, 2009, 3:49:34 PM11/2/09
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Hi,

> BTW, Peter, we hope to install a pool and bunkhouse on our property
> toward the end of 2010. You have a birthday coming up in a few
> weeks. You missed mine on Oct. 19. LOL
>
> Best regards, Cheri

"You know Peter is a scumbag don't you?

But at least he is decent enough to separate what he provides from
nudism. I have to give him credit for that."

What has Peter ever done to you personally that you feel the need to refer
to him as a 'scumbag' on these groups?


--

Best wishes,

Dario Western

"In order to be what you want to be you've got to learn to be everything
you're not" - Alicia Moore (aka P!nk)
(07) 3267-6789
(0437) 428-859

http://www.myspace.com/fatpizzaman

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stinso...@hotmail.com

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Nov 2, 2009, 7:16:51 PM11/2/09
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:49:34 GMT, "Dario Western"
<wester...@nospamgmail.com> wrote:

>What has Peter ever done to you personally that you feel the need to refer
>to him as a 'scumbag' on these groups?

Or anywhere else, for that matter? Peter is a lot of things: pain in
the ass to yours truly; egocentric demagogue with a persecution
complex; slayer or the English language. But a scumbag? Nah! Peter and
I will never see eye to eye on nudism, but his take on relationships
and "ease with nudity' hardly make him a scum bag.

-T.

Terry J. Wood

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Nov 2, 2009, 8:00:54 PM11/2/09
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John Purbrick <john_p...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:43fec9af-5de2-4bc3-
8c09-88f...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:

> Maybe you'll recall that a few weeks ago I joined Skinbook

A nudist site called skinbook?

Is there a Christian site called Sinbook?

Cheri Alexander

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Nov 3, 2009, 1:09:25 PM11/3/09
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I do, John. Part of it has to do with Ning itself. There are quite
a few sites that do not allow those under the age of majority there.
All the best,
Cheri

Cheri Alexander

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> > Thank you, Peter.   The two moderators who were left to approve photos
> > or not on Skinbook were no longer given the option of removing the
> > individuals who posted photos that were against the rules.  I don't
> > like having my hands tied when suposedly doing a job.  It's like
> > saying "go ahead and ticket the speeders (to the police) but there are
> > no consequences."
>
> > I can be found as moderator or poster on the following Ning sites:http://naturallynude.ning.com/http://freerangenudist.ning.comhttp://t...

>
> > BTW, Peter, we hope to install a pool and bunkhouse on our property
> > toward the end of 2010.    You have a birthday coming up in a few
> > weeks.  You missed mine on Oct. 19.  LOL
>
> > Best regards, Cheri
>
> You know Peter is a scumbag don't you?
>
> But at least he is decent enough to separate what he provides from
> nudism. I have to give him credit for that.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Anna, He has always been supportive of what I believe in. TGB isn't
my cup of tea, but he knows what I stand for and accepts my beliefs
that are good for me. He has treated me better than some who claim
to be nudists.
Cheri
www.travelites.info


Cheri Alexander

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>
> > Thank you, Peter.   The two moderators who were left to approve photos
> > or not on Skinbook were no longer given the option of removing the
> > individuals who posted photos that were against the rules.  I don't
> > like having my hands tied when suposedly doing a job.  It's like
> > saying "go ahead and ticket the speeders (to the police) but there are
> > no consequences."
>
> > I can be found as moderator or poster on the following Ning sites:http://naturallynude.ning.com/http://freerangenudist.ning.comhttp://t...
> {TGB Conceptor}:http://www.the-grand-barn.comhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Grand-Barnhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheGrandBarn- Hide quoted text -

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Peter, I was 62 last month and proud of it. Take care
:) Cheri
www.travelites.info

Anna

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> > > Thank you, Peter.   The two moderators who were left to approve photos
> > > or not on Skinbook were no longer given the option of removing the
> > > individuals who posted photos that were against the rules.  I don't
> > > like having my hands tied when suposedly doing a job.  It's like
> > > saying "go ahead and ticket the speeders (to the police) but there are
> > > no consequences."
>
> > > I can be found as moderator or poster on the following Ning sites:http://naturallynude.ning.com/http://freerangenudist.ning.comhttp://t...
>
> > > BTW, Peter, we hope to install a pool and bunkhouse on our property
> > > toward the end of 2010.    You have a birthday coming up in a few
> > > weeks.  You missed mine on Oct. 19.  LOL
>
> > > Best regards, Cheri
>
> > You know Peter is a scumbag don't you?
>
> > But at least he is decent enough to separate what he provides from
> > nudism. I have to give him credit for that.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Anna, He has always been supportive of what I believe in.  TGB isn't
> my cup of tea, but he knows what I stand for and accepts my beliefs
> that are good for me.   He has treated me better than some who claim
> to be nudists.
> Cheriwww.travelites.info

Fair enough. Like I said he does make it clear that what he provides
is NOT nudism and I appreciate him for that.

Zee

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> > > > > - Show quoted text -
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> > > > Thank you, Peter.   The two moderators who were left to approve photos
> > > > or not on Skinbook were no longer given the option of removing the
> > > > individuals who posted photos that were against the rules.  I don't
> > > > like having my hands tied when suposedly doing a job.  It's like
> > > > saying "go ahead and ticket the speeders (to the police) but there are
> > > > no consequences."
>
> > > > I can be found as moderator or poster on the following Ning sites:http://naturallynude.ning.com/http://freerangenudist.ning.comhttp://t...
>
> > > > BTW, Peter, we hope to install a pool and bunkhouse on our property
> > > > toward the end of 2010.    You have a birthday coming up in a few
> > > > weeks.  You missed mine on Oct. 19.  LOL
>
> > > > Best regards, Cheri
>
> > > You know Peter is a scumbag don't you?
>
> > > But at least he is decent enough to separate what he provides from
> > > nudism. I have to give him credit for that.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Anna, He has always been supportive of what I believe in.  TGB isn't
> > my cup of tea, but he knows what I stand for and accepts my beliefs
> > that are good for me.   He has treated me better than some who claim
> > to be nudists.
> > Cheriwww.travelites.info
>
> Fair enough. Like I said he does make it clear that what he provides
> is NOT nudism and I appreciate him for that.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Anna.....the only problem i see with your opinion of PETER is that you
have him locked out to never call him self a nudist ....and i know if
i was Peter i would not appreciate that....being locked out of the
english language as a scumbag is not freedom of speech....the
alternative is for your brand of nudist to call themselves something
new such as skyclad families...and let the noun/verb stand as it is
and then the naked sexual businesses that have always used
nudist...does not all have to change either.....you are asking all
nude sex businesses to yield to your desires....when just one naked
business such as yours can change and the problem is solved...and it
would stimulate the media to have a new family entity to be
interviewed and thus the skyclads could explain to the world
why...otherwise no one will know.....regards.....jz

Dario Western

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Nov 3, 2009, 3:32:41 PM11/3/09
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Hey JZ,

"Anna.....the only problem i see with your opinion of PETER is that you
have him locked out to never call him self a nudist ....and i know if
i was Peter i would not appreciate that....being locked out of the
english language as a scumbag is not freedom of speech....the
alternative is for your brand of nudist to call themselves something
new such as skyclad families...and let the noun/verb stand as it is
and then the naked sexual businesses that have always used
nudist...does not all have to change either.....you are asking all
nude sex businesses to yield to your desires....when just one naked
business such as yours can change and the problem is solved...and it
would stimulate the media to have a new family entity to be
interviewed and thus the skyclads could explain to the world
why...otherwise no one will know.....regards.....jz"

Very well said. This was one of the reasons why I had kill-filed Anna for
some time, but to be fair it wasn't just her who was giving Peter a hard
time on here either.


--

Best wishes,

Dario Western

"In order to be what you want to be you've got to learn to be everything
you're not" - Alicia Moore (aka P!nk)
(07) 3267-6789
(0437) 428-859

http://www.myspace.com/fatpizzaman

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Zee

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Nov 3, 2009, 4:59:48 PM11/3/09
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yes and we both know who they are...this family naked thing needs a
new beginning as i think the world can forgive for their early year
misgivings and this new SKYCLAD definition would allow them to
distance themselves from their past as well as try to get it right
next time and listen to all folks instead of a small bunch of know it
all....sex businesses are like everywhere and i can tell you that none
are interested in a name like skyclad....so the ol nudist could enjoy
total owership of the new name without intrusion.....and the little ol
lady and ol man living down the road could tell their children....they
got a new bunch of young folks up on the hill and i think de gonna be
jumpin out of airplanes...if de do we can see em from
here.....regards....jz

Peter Riden

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On Nov 3, 3:32 pm, "Dario Western" <westernor...@nospamgmail.com>
wrote:

For those who have doubts... you know with the above why I call John a
good friend.
Of course, Dario is also my friend, so is Beautiful 62 yrs young Cheri
and plenty of others in here who do not share the stance expressed by
one who obviously speaks out for the few who see me as "pain in the
ass..., egocentric demagogue with a persecution complex" but rather
these friends recognize I toy with my little opposition and show the
readers at large I, along with others of my team, do offer a more
realistic alternative when it comes to Nude Recreation.
And Cheri, as always, your supportive words are much welcome...;-)


In Friendship & Universality
Peter Riden {T.W.A.N. Founder}
http://www.the-worldwide-affiliate-network.com

Dan Abel

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Nov 4, 2009, 1:03:03 PM11/4/09
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In article
<6cee1c7c-f094-4090...@31g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>,
Peter Riden <Affi...@the-grand-barn.com> wrote:

> On Nov 3, 3:32�pm, "Dario Western" <westernor...@nospamgmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hey JZ,
> >
> > "Anna.....the only problem i see with your opinion of PETER is that you
> > have him locked out �to never call him self a nudist ....and i know if
> > i was Peter i would not appreciate that....being locked out of the
> > english language as a scumbag is not freedom of speech....the
> > alternative is for your brand of nudist to call themselves something
> > new such as skyclad families...and let the noun/verb stand as it is
> > and then the naked sexual �businesses that have always used
> > nudist...does not all have to change either.....you are asking all
> > nude sex businesses to yield to your desires....when just one naked
> > business such as yours can change and the problem is solved

> > Very well said. �This was one of the reasons why I had kill-filed Anna for


> > some time, but to be fair it wasn't just her who was giving Peter a hard
> > time on here either.

> For those who have doubts... you know with the above why I call John a


> good friend.
> Of course, Dario is also my friend

With friends like Zee and Dario, who needs enemies? Perhaps I didn't
understand what Zee meant. I usually don't, which was the original
reason I killfiled me. However, after reading the above three times it
appears that he is defining "nudist" to mean "naked sexual businesses".
Why he thinks Anna has a naked business I don't know, since Anna is not
a nudist, has never tried it and has stated many times that he never
will.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net

Zee

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Nov 4, 2009, 1:14:24 PM11/4/09
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On Nov 4, 12:03 pm, Dan Abel <da...@sonic.net> wrote:
> In article
> <6cee1c7c-f094-4090-a69d-dabe3621d...@31g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>,
> da...@sonic.net- Hide quoted text -

>
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idiot.....she did not say she had or was interested in visiting any
nudist camp or facility.....only that HER KIND of camp is what you
tribal indians want but have never had....so now we got that
straight....and since nudist businesses has always been a sex business
same as caliente...paradise...and TGB...then they should continue
calling them what ever they please ..ie nudist nudism...because that
is their clientele ...nudist swingers from your camps go to these
nudist swinger places....and you guys need to call your naked business
something else if you want a non sexual place...ie....fundamentalist
skyclad families would be fitting....so get er dun.....jz

Anna

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Nov 4, 2009, 2:55:59 PM11/4/09
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On Nov 4, 8:23 am, Peter Riden <Affil...@the-grand-barn.com> wrote:

> these friends recognize I toy with my little opposition and show the
> readers at large I, along with others of my team, do offer a more
> realistic alternative when it comes to Nude Recreation.

You represent a challenge to nudism as you have said in your own words
that nudism isn't realistic. You don't see social nudity without
social sex as something that can happen "in the real world". You
believe where there's nudity you will find those use the location to
engage in social sexual behavior.

Unfortunately there are too many nudist resorts that agree with your
assessment. Less now that Paradise Lakes and Caliente have lost their
charters but still too many.

It is too bad you can't be of the opinion that while nudism is a
possibility there are others who like swinging. And therefore such
people can go to your place instead of usurping nudist clubs. But if
your opinion is that nudism doesn't work in the real world than it's a
valid opinion to have. And it's a topic I have often wondered about
and have brought up for discussion.

Indeed you may be correct. Nudism seems so idyllic. Perhaps it is
indeed too idyllic to exist in this imperfect world.

Anna

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Nov 4, 2009, 2:58:36 PM11/4/09
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On Nov 4, 10:03 am, Dan Abel <da...@sonic.net> wrote:
> In article
> <6cee1c7c-f094-4090-a69d-dabe3621d...@31g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>,

No, I am not a nudist and I do not have a naked business. I am nude at
home often especially during the summer months. I have a house that is
isolated enough not to have neighbors so I can and do even garden
nude, swim in my pool nude, walk around my backyard nude, etc.

But I don't claim to be a nudist because I have never been nude in a
social setting around a mixed gender group of people.

Anna

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Nov 4, 2009, 3:04:19 PM11/4/09
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I am a homebody and actually I am quite fortunate to have the ability
to do everything I want to do nude on my property. I realize most
people don't have such an ideal situation though and that is why I am
hesitant to just totally discount nudist venues.

But all too often I have found cases of nudist venues not living up to
what they are supposed to be. And I do fear that most places do have
inappropriate things going on. Not frequently mind you, at least not
most of the places (Canada's "Four Season" being an exception I know
about because of that article written about it), but occasionally and
occasionally is bad enough. And while I feel that most nudists are
good people, I would even go as far as saying better people than the
general population I also feel that bad people are attracted to nudist
venues and actually because most nudists are so good they don't see
the evil in the bad people and are easily deceived.

Anna

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Nov 4, 2009, 3:16:40 PM11/4/09
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I don't think I would be bothered by going to a nudist camp. I would
probably enjoy it. But I really don't see the point as I can do
everything they have there at my home and there are no close ones to
my house.

And it wouldn't prove anything. I have always said that I don't
believe that inappropriate things happen at most places most of the
time. If they do happen they happen occasionally so the chances I
would see something inappropriate going on during the time I was there
would be remote. That said, if I would to frequent such a place the
chances of me seeing something inappropriate say once or twice a
summer would go up dramatically, and even those few incidents would be
a few too many.

Anna

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Nov 4, 2009, 3:18:57 PM11/4/09
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Now as opposed to most nudist clubs/resorts I do believe that at most
clothing optional beaches inappropriate behavior is frequent so the
chances are if I went to one of those I would see inappropriate
behavior taking place.

Peter Riden

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Nov 4, 2009, 3:39:57 PM11/4/09
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John.. this is STRONG AND IMPACTING. "fundamentalist skyclad families
outlets" is now your copyrighted accurate identification of what our
few critics try to shove upon us.
That Dan (Abel) killfiled himself, as per his typo skip, and claims he
doesn't understand you, yet bothers even responding, is just an usual
echo of our few detractors' continued failures. If "Anna" is even able
to express doubts about the viability of what we shall now call
"fundamentalist skyclad families outlets" then it becomes evident that
I have successfully achieved great results, with the support of many
like yourself, John, and others in here who have been backing me up on
my continued presentations of a more realistic alternative when it
comes to Nude Recreation.
So now the few tribers have been endorsing Cheef Dan's "fundamentalist
skyclad families outlets" and on this side we offer the undisguised
way to Nude Recreation. Again as observed by one who has not always
been kind towards me... "there are too many nudist resorts that agree
with your
assessment... if your opinion is that nudism doesn't work in the real
world than it's a valid opinion to have." I've long known that and
I've also always known I'm having a very impact and continued strong
show of support if not always publicly expressed.
Again, a reminder that the following is where Nude Recreation as never
before keeps being offered.

Diane Benson

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Nov 5, 2009, 9:04:28 PM11/5/09
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Wow!!!!! I went looking for Cheri, as she helped me tremendously
years ago
I probabably haven't seen her for about 12 yrs I'm guessing. I was
shocked to find this controversy.
Cheri is a confident, intelligent and beautiful woman. How she is
getting criticism is beyond me, but I have been out of touch. Cheri,
please email me.
Diane Benson, nudist and proud of it.

Diane Benson

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Nov 5, 2009, 9:07:35 PM11/5/09
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Anna, you obviously don't know what you are talking about.
Diane Benson

Diane Benson

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Nov 5, 2009, 9:14:39 PM11/5/09
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People like you give nudism a bad name. You got my whiskers up so to
speak. I don't participate in a lot of nude activities, but I have
been on 5 nude cruises, to nudist camps in California, Minnesota and
Wisconsin, have been a member of Mn Naturists, AANR and TNS. You give
your negative opinions based on hearsay. Get your naked butt out
there to get the true picture.

Peter Riden

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Nov 5, 2009, 9:40:54 PM11/5/09
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On Nov 5, 9:04 pm, Diane Benson <dibenso...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow!!!!!  I went looking for Cheri, as she helped me tremendously
> years ago
> I probabably haven't seen her for about 12 yrs I'm guessing.  I was
> shocked to find this controversy.
> Cheri is a confident, intelligent and beautiful woman.  How she is
> getting criticism is beyond me, but I have been out of touch.  Cheri,
> please email me.
> Diane Benson, nudist and proud of it.

Hi Diane
I welcome to hear from another appreciative Cheri's friend.
I believe you read this whole thread but the exchange between Cheri
and I as follow expresses very well how we also feel about each other
and yes I agree with you that she's beautiful, in and out, and
definitely endearing for those who want honest friends..;-) Here is
what I believe is of strong significance...
Cheri first...


> Thank you, Peter. The two moderators who were left to approve photos
> or not on Skinbook were no longer given the option of removing the
> individuals who posted photos that were against the rules. I don't
> like having my hands tied when suposedly doing a job. It's like
> saying "go ahead and ticket the speeders (to the police) but there are
> no consequences."

> I can be found as moderator or poster on the following Ning sites:http://naturallynude.ning.com/http://freerangenudist.ning.comhttp://t...

> BTW, Peter, we hope to install a pool and bunkhouse on our property
> toward the end of 2010. You have a birthday coming up in a few
> weeks. You missed mine on Oct. 19. LOL

> Best regards, Cheri

Let's go to the Birthday(s) first, Beautiful!!


I'll have to not only mark it on my calendar which I probably did but
check it out more steadily... with all the friends I have some get
overviewed and in your case it should not. Haoy belated birthday to
you, Cheri... now just turning 30+... I mean looking wise..;-)
As you rightly point out Nov 25th is indeed the annual reminder that I
have been around for that many years... as in 30 X 2 this time
around..;-)
Of course, as always, you're most welcome to join in the celebrations
along with Allen..;-)
As for the subject matter being discussed... you know I'm there for

you and as mentioned about you... "She can be barred from wherever...


I will not bar such a quality woman from coming my way.
She has been very supportive and quite helpful in handling some of my
sneaky critics... I certainly do not forget that she has also quite
some intestinal fortitude and I welcome that."

And obviously, John, Dario and many others have also strong respect


for the
person you are, Cheri.
You take good care and till our mutual beeps again..;-)

In Friendship & Universality
Peter Riden {T.W.A.N. Founder}
http://www.the-worldwide-affiliate-network.com

http://www.the-grand-barn.com/777.HTM

Cheri Alexander

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Nov 6, 2009, 10:24:02 AM11/6/09
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On Nov 5, 9:04 pm, Diane Benson <dibenso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Wow!!!!!  I went looking for Cheri, as she helped me tremendously
> years ago
> I probabably haven't seen her for about 12 yrs I'm guessing.  I was
> shocked to find this controversy.
> Cheri is a confident, intelligent and beautiful woman.  How she is
> getting criticism is beyond me, but I have been out of touch.  Cheri,
> please email me.
> Diane Benson, nudist and proud of it.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks, Diane. It has been a while. My email is still
cheri...@prodigy.net. We both go back to Prodigy over 20years
now. LOL
Allen and I are still southeast of Columbia, SC. Within a year or two
to add to our home will be a pool and a bunkhouse. It's definitely
our own mini park. We still have the hot tub and added a grass
volleyball court and horseshoes. We now have a different set of cats
(3 total) since you last visited.

I can recommend visiting these sites: www.netnude.com, www.clothesfree.com,
plus on the Ning server:

Big hugs,
Cheri

Anna

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Nov 6, 2009, 11:04:40 AM11/6/09
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I want to be successfully refuted. But unfortunately that hasn't
really happened here,

I try to be the "devils advocate" on this group but unfortunately it
seems like the devil almost always wins here.

Perhaps nudism is indeed too idyllic to be practiced in the real
world.

I do have a question regarding the nude cruises you have been on. I
have heard bad things about such cruises. I have heard that some
really raunchy behavior occurs there. Did you see much of that?

Here is a photo of some of the behavior that has gone on during one of
those cruises.

http://www.spankingblog.com/spanking-pictures/tracy-arm-spanking.jpg

http://tinyurl.com/yfhprwv

Anna

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Nov 6, 2009, 11:08:54 AM11/6/09
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Are you saying inappropriate behavior doesn't frequently occur at most
nude beaches? You only have to look at Craigslist to see post after
post of people soliciting going to the nude beach to have sex.

Anna

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Nov 6, 2009, 11:11:18 AM11/6/09
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Like I said I do believe that MOST nudist clubs keep things
appropriate MOST of the time. But, of course MOST of the time isn't
all the time and just a few incidences a year are a few too many.

Anna

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Nov 6, 2009, 11:13:48 AM11/6/09
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You attack me (which is perfectly find as long as it's on what's
presented) yet you don't attack Peter. I only have wondered if nudism
is possible in the real world. Peter has no doubt that it isn't.

Terry J. Wood

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Diane Benson <diben...@gmail.com> wrote in news:af2ea87a-d1b8-41b6-8390-
b23678...@a31g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:

> Anna, you obviously don't know what you are talking about.

> Diane Benson

That didn't take long!

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