Is an open leg posture acceptable?
Anna
http://www.nudist-resorts.org/talk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=519
I would like some feedback about something that I wouldn't feel
comfortable asking someone directly about.
When I'm laying out by the pool with others, I feel most comfortable,
when on my back, to have my arms above or behind my head and my legs
fully open. Although I like the exposure to the sun, it's more a
feeling of openess that just 'feels good'. I've noticed others,
usually guys, that have their legs pretty much wide open also, so it
appears to be okay. I just don't want to do something that seems like
an 'in-your-face' type of posture that might be offensive to others.
Zee
back down to earth as nudist seem never to be of course....if a young
girl or woman spreads their legs there will be attention paid to this
expose.....and women always fear of other women saying they are acting
slutty....so dream on guys....you got your homework cut out for
ya.....women always reserve the right to be a whore as they never know
when they will need to be a whore to survive......whew ....nice to
have gotten that straight....jz
Dario Western
I wrote a letter to AS&H magazine ages ago about this. I believe that it is
impolite to lie on a nude beach with your legs spread apart, especially if
you're a female.
Even if you don't mean anything by it, it still gives an open invitation for
unwanted attention by the more unsavory characters.
--
Best wishes,
Dario Western
"In order to be what you want to be you've got to learn to be everything
you're not" - Alicia Moore (aka P!nk)
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Zee
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I wrote a letter to AS&H magazine ages ago about this. I believe that it is
> impolite to lie on a nude beach with your legs spread apart, especially if
> you're a female.
>
> Even if you don't mean anything by it, it still gives an open invitation for
> unwanted attention by the more unsavory characters.
>
> --
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Dario Western
>
> "In order to be what you want to be you've got to learn to be everything
> you're not" - Alicia Moore (aka P!nk)
> (07) 3267-6789
> (0437) 428-859
>
> http://www.myspace.com/fatpizzaman
>
>
> news:5170f822-5344-4994...@k13g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > From the nudist-resorts.org discussion forum.
>
> >http://www.nudist-resorts.org/talk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=519
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/yjl3c9b
>
> > I would like some feedback about something that I wouldn't feel
> > comfortable asking someone directly about.
>
> > When I'm laying out by the pool with others, I feel most comfortable,
> > when on my back, to have my arms above or behind my head and my legs
> > fully open. Although I like the exposure to the sun, it's more a
> > feeling of openess that just 'feels good'. I've noticed others,
> > usually guys, that have their legs pretty much wide open also, so it
> > appears to be okay. I just don't want to do something that seems like
>
> - Show quoted text -
very good Dario.....and those unsavory characters will be there more
than likely....of course the women all know this and females will be
females but the young girls say the fun of it all is worth it and
whuts wrong with unsavory characters.....regards.....jz
stinso...@hotmail.com
<wester...@nospamgmail.com> wrote:
> it still gives an open invitation for
>unwanted attention by the more unsavory characters.
Unsavory characters are responsible for their unsavory behavior. The
idea that a woman invites that sort of thing is sexist at best.
-T.
sportsbug
I guess open leg posture not acceptable after all. One time I
entered the chat room at Cybernude.com where members voted to allow
all body parts as acceptable nics or handle, I entered the room as
"legs", and all hell broke loose. Members said the nic "legs" not an
accept nic whereas butt and penis are. go figure!! Anyway,
cybernude gone forever!!!
Ken S. Tucker
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I wrote a letter to AS&H magazine ages ago about this. I believe that it is
> impolite to lie on a nude beach with your legs spread apart, especially if
> you're a female.
>
> Even if you don't mean anything by it, it still gives an open invitation for
> unwanted attention by the more unsavory characters.
Not really, I know lots of gals who like to relax legs spread,
especially with their pee-pees sunnying, and sure they deserve
a cursory glance, humans are - after all - curious.
I probably spend as much time studying someones face as
studying their genitals. I also like to look at peoples hands,
feet and breasts, men and women.
It's odd that a circumcised man fully exposes his knob and
no one thinks twice about it, yet it is the like the clit on a
male.
Ken
Zee
yeah...right on Ken...this thread could go on and on for 49 years and
not a mention of how the textiles view it.....but that is what i am
here for to not let them forget.....it is seen as PUBLIC LEWDNESS...in
the law books....but nudist suppress this issue as they say they
should have the right to commit a crime since they are nudist...kooks
for sure....jz
Ken S. Tucker
Ugh, who wants posture police, lots of gals and guys enjoy sitting
injun style, clothes or not. I find, when a gal flirts with me it's
got
more to do with body language (dressed or not), her touching me
kindly, and conversation attitude.
Ya get used to cunts, I was watching a gal doing some weight
lifting on a bench nude for a few minutes before I noticed she had
her legs wide spread while doing it, it's only human.
Ken
Dario Western
all before from those types.
--
Best wishes,
Dario Western
"In order to be what you want to be you've got to learn to be everything
you're not" - Alicia Moore (aka P!nk)
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Ken S. Tucker
On Nov 20, 1:00 am, "Dario Western" <westernor...@nospamgmail.com>
wrote:
> "Only Human" is the excuse for people to behave like dickheads. Heard it
> all before from those types.
Easy there son, behave. I've watched gals and guys do nude yoga
exercizes and stuff like that, it's beautiful. Some people like to sun
'spread eagle' that's their pleasure.
After the kids aren't around, a gal can get down on all 4's and spread
and wiggle her hiny, I think that's charming and if some fella she
likes
wants to copulate her, watching the love act is blissful.
> Best wishes,
> Dario Western
Same
Ken
> "In order to be what you want to be you've got to learn to be everything
> you're not" - Alicia Moore (aka P!nk)
> (07) 3267-6789
> (0437) 428-859
>
> http://www.myspace.com/fatpizzaman
>
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> "Ken S. Tucker" <dynam...@vianet.on.ca> wrote in messagenews:3278eaae-6a2d-4778...@z35g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
Jenny6833A
wrote:
> I believe that it is
> impolite to lie on a nude beach with your legs spread apart, especially if
> you're a female.
Believe whatever you want to believe, no matter how silly it is. And
that belief of yours is silly as silly can be.
> Even if you don't mean anything by it, it still gives an open invitation for
> unwanted attention by the more unsavory characters.
You're making the usual prudist argument against short skirts, shorts,
modern swim suits, bikinis, and mere nudity. I've never heard a good
case for any of them.
But, if you wish to be a totally illogical, freedom-averse, prudish
sexist prig, it's your right to be one.
:-)
Jenny
(and my right to say what a total nut you are)
stinso...@hotmail.com
<Jenny...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Nov 19, 6:33?pm, "Dario Western" <westernor...@nospamgmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> I believe that it is
>> impolite to lie on a nude beach with your legs spread apart, especially if
>> you're a female.
>
>Believe whatever you want to believe, no matter how silly it is. And
>that belief of yours is silly as silly can be.
>
>> Even if you don't mean anything by it, it still gives an open invitation for
>> unwanted attention by the more unsavory characters.
>
>You're making the usual prudist argument against short skirts, shorts,
>modern swim suits, bikinis, and mere nudity. I've never heard a good
>case for any of them.
If I may: it's not about being a prude. It's about holding a double
standard when it comes to men and women. A woman in a short skirt
"invites" rape. A woman on a nude beach, with legs apart,"invites"
illicit attention. Never do you hear the same said of men. Ever.
-T.
Zee
>
> - Show quoted text -
idiot.....the female gender ....especially the girls from 8 to 11
created social nudism....and the male is the recipient to enjoy what
they created.....the female gender is not shocked or bothered by males
with hard ons....they like it....a female noted that she like the guys
to spread em so she could see his balls better.....hey all you
primates tell us what you know....there is toooo damned much to talk
about what you dont know.....jeesh.....jz
Ken S. Tucker
Yeah Jenny, after 5-10 minutes of looking at pee-pees even when
your 5 yo, it's no issue, wasn't to me.
Ken
Jenny6833A
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:25:48 -0800 (PST), Jenny6833A
>
> >On Nov 19, 6:33?pm, "Dario Western" <westernor...@nospamgmail.com>
> >wrote:
>
> >> I believe that it is
> >> impolite to lie on a nude beach with your legs spread apart, especially if
> >> you're a female.
>
> >Believe whatever you want to believe, no matter how silly it is. �And
> >that belief of yours is silly as silly can be.
>
> >> Even if you don't mean anything by it, it still gives an open invitation for
> >> unwanted attention by the more unsavory characters.
>
> >You're making the usual prudist argument against short skirts, shorts,
> >modern swim suits, bikinis, and mere nudity. �I've never heard a good
> >case for any of them.
>
> If I may: it's not about being a prude.
That's not all of it, but most of it, IMO.
> It's about holding a double standard when it comes to men and women.
Does the double standard cause prudery? Or vice versa? Are they
unrelated? Or what?
I note that the prudes consider male "full frontal" far more offensive
than female "full frontal." That's your double standard in reverse.
> A woman in a short skirt
> "invites" rape. A woman on a nude beach, with legs apart,"invites"
> illicit attention. Never do you hear the same said of men. Ever.
I'm not so sure. The idea that the sight of bare skin, especially the
sight of sex organs (or the natural covering thereof), brings forth
aggression is also applied to men. You males have little walls
between urinals to keep other males from seeing your pee-pees, and
these days many of you won't be nude in the presence of other men as
in shower rooms, saunas, swimming pools, etc. because many of you are
afraid some other man will sexually attack you, believing he's been
"invited."
And, of course, the double standard works in reverse there too. It's
always assumed that the attacker will be male.
So, while I agree that there's a double standard, I think it cuts both
ways.
:-)
Jenny
stinso...@hotmail.com
<Jenny...@aol.com> wrote:
> You males have little walls
>between urinals to keep other males from seeing your pee-pees
While the ladies, most of whom won't even let their bottoms touch the
seat, are sitting cheek to cheek? Hardly.
>these days many of you won't be nude in the presence of other men as
>in shower rooms, saunas, swimming pools, etc. because many of you are
>afraid some other man will sexually attack you, believing he's been
>"invited."
Another one of your beliefs, apparently. Of course you'll dance around
the bush regarding definitions but, for the most part, it doesn't
wash.
-T.
Lane
news:486hg5lm9vlc1dels...@4ax.com:
>>these days many of you won't be nude in the presence of other men as
>>in shower rooms, saunas, swimming pools, etc. because many of you are
>>afraid some other man will sexually attack you, believing he's been
>>"invited."
>
> Another one of your beliefs, apparently. Of course you'll dance around
> the bush regarding definitions but, for the most part, it doesn't
> wash.
>
>
On the other hand, at my local Y, I have noticed a trend: the more
attractive the guy, the more likely he is to throw on sweats and leave
without availing himself of the saunas, steamrooms and showers. I can't
read their minds, and I doubt they seriously worry about being sexually
attacked, but I will bet they perceive, rightly or wrongly that they
will at least be leered at.
(I realize that Anna is likely to jump on this one as proof that all
gays are perverts, but it's fair to point out that my correlation would
likely apply even more strongly to women were the locker rooms mixed
gender.)
--
Lane
Jenny6833A
> stinson_h...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote innews:486hg5lm9vlc1dels...@4ax.com:
>
> >>these days many of you won't be nude in the presence of other men as
> >>in shower rooms, saunas, swimming pools, etc. because many of you are
> >>afraid some other man will sexually attack you, believing he's been
> >>"invited."
>
> > Another one of your beliefs, apparently. Of course you'll dance around
> > the bush regarding definitions but, for the most part, it doesn't
> > wash.
>
> On the other hand, at my local Y, I have noticed a trend: the more
> attractive the guy, the more likely he is to throw on sweats and leave
> without availing himself of the saunas, steamrooms and showers. I can't
> read their minds, and I doubt they seriously worry about being sexually
> attacked, but I will bet they perceive, rightly or wrongly that they
> will at least be leered at.
I think all the "jokes" about "watching your back" and "don't drop
your soap in the shower" represent some degree of real fear -- like
whistling in the dark while passing a cemetery.
> (... it's fair to point out that my correlation would
> likely apply even more strongly to women were the locker rooms mixed
> gender.)
Women are used to being "checked out" and tend to take it for
granted. As long as it doesn't go beyond visual examination and
facial expresssions, most women ignore it. Many of us, me included,
seldom even notice. It takes really crude comments to get our
attention, and even then we pretend we don't. Men could learn a lot
from women, but generally don't because they won't.
OTOH, most _textile_ women do suffer from the "nudity equates to sex"
syndrome, so they'd probably be on higher alert in mixed gender locker
rooms. But, on that, we're both engaging in speculation since we're
unlikely to get any data.
>
> --
> Lane
:-)
Jenny
Lane
news:8beb4ce8-951b-4600...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com:
> On Nov 22, 8:21�am, Lane <absolutel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> stinson_h...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote
>> innews:486hg5lm9vlc1delshgablbgknatf0qpue@
> 4ax.com:
>>
>> >>these days many of you won't be nude in the presence of other men
>> >>as in shower rooms, saunas, swimming pools, etc. because many of
>> >>you are afraid some other man will sexually attack you, believing
>> >>he's been "invited."
>>
>> > Another one of your beliefs, apparently. Of course you'll dance
>> > around the bush regarding definitions but, for the most part, it
>> > doesn't wash.
>>
>> On the other hand, at my local Y, I have noticed a trend: the more
>> attractive the guy, the more likely he is to throw on sweats and
>> leave without availing himself of the saunas, steamrooms and showers.
>> I can't read their minds, and I doubt they seriously worry about
>> being sexually attacked, but I will bet they perceive, rightly or
>> wrongly that they will at least be leered at.
>
> I think all the "jokes" about "watching your back" and "don't drop
> your soap in the shower" represent some degree of real fear -- like
> whistling in the dark while passing a cemetery.
I also think some of the jokes are just that. Yes, maybe there's some
repressed anxiety or even some homohatred (I'm trying to avoid the
"phobia" word, because it doesn't really capture what I think we try to
mean by it), but mostly I can laugh at those kinds of things. I usually
enjoy the occasional gay joke by a straight person if for no other
reason than to see their faces turn red when I tell them I'm gay. :)
>
>> (... it's fair to point out that my correlation would
>> likely apply even more strongly to women were the locker rooms mixed
>> gender.)
>
> Women are used to being "checked out" and tend to take it for
> granted. As long as it doesn't go beyond visual examination and
> facial expresssions, most women ignore it. Many of us, me included,
> seldom even notice. It takes really crude comments to get our
> attention, and even then we pretend we don't. Men could learn a lot
> from women, but generally don't because they won't.
One of my favorite "gotcha" moments was listening to a bar tender at a
sports bar complain that he had been ogled by some gay guy on the
outdoor mall in Boulder. I was with a female friend who turned to him
and said, "Now you know how those women you whistle at feel!"
Fair to say he was agasp.
>
> OTOH, most _textile_ women do suffer from the "nudity equates to sex"
> syndrome, so they'd probably be on higher alert in mixed gender locker
> rooms. But, on that, we're both engaging in speculation since we're
> unlikely to get any data.
Would be a fun experiment though. Sounds like a job for the BBC. :)
--
Lane
Trucker_18a
>
> - Show quoted text -
My Sister has lived in Las Vegas for nearly forty years. She has said
to me that there isn't afemale above 11 living in Nevada that doesn't
have either the Exotic Model License or the Prostitute License,
including her.
As the Psychologists will say, a Woman sitting with her legs open is
unapproachable. Laying on her Tummy with her legs open, is the
opposite.
I may be Prudish, yet I feel that a young girl should keep her legs
crossed in either position, while a mature Woman has her
'Liberation'. A Married Lady pays either instance no mind, is my
experience.
Jenny6833A
>
> My Sister has lived in Las Vegas for nearly forty years. �She has said
> to me that there isn't afemale above 11 living in Nevada that doesn't
> have either the Exotic Model License or the Prostitute License,
> including her.
She's wrong, very wrong.
> As the Psychologists will say, a Woman sitting with her legs open is
> unapproachable. �Laying on her Tummy with her legs open, is the
> opposite.
Please quote these pshchologists by name.
> I may be Prudish ...
I don't think you're prudish, just nuts.
> ... yet I feel that a young girl should keep her legs
> crossed in either position, while a mature Woman has her
> 'Liberation'. �A Married Lady pays either instance no mind, is my
> experience.
Until and unless you offer some rationale, no one cares what you feel.
<sigh>
Jenny
stinso...@hotmail.com
<absolu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Jenny6833A <Jenny...@aol.com> wrote in
>news:8beb4ce8-951b-4600...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Nov 22, 8:21�am, Lane <absolutel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> stinson_h...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote
>>> innews:486hg5lm9vlc1delshgablbgknatf0qpue@
>> 4ax.com:
>>> On the other hand, at my local Y, I have noticed a trend: the more
>>> attractive the guy, the more likely he is to throw on sweats and
>>> leave without availing himself of the saunas, steamrooms and showers.
>>> I can't read their minds, and I doubt they seriously worry about
>>> being sexually attacked, but I will bet they perceive, rightly or
>>> wrongly that they will at least be leered at.
>>
>> I think all the "jokes" about "watching your back" and "don't drop
>> your soap in the shower" represent some degree of real fear -- like
>> whistling in the dark while passing a cemetery.
>
>I also think some of the jokes are just that. Yes, maybe there's some
>repressed anxiety or even some homohatred (I'm trying to avoid the
>"phobia" word, because it doesn't really capture what I think we try to
>mean by it), but mostly I can laugh at those kinds of things.
I hear comments about dropping the soap from adolescents and very
young adults. I never hear them from mature men (I'll be the first to
admit that some of them never grow up). I've never worried about being
nude around other men, even those who are openly gay. I own and take
responsibility for my own behavior and really expect others to do the
same.
-T.
Lane
2435db...@k13g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
> On Nov 22, 3:04�pm, Trucker_18a <trucker_...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> I may be Prudish ...
>
> I don't think you're prudish, just nuts.
Um, you must not know Trucker. That would be a "uh, duh."
--
Lane
Dario Western
I believe in the same laws for every female regardless of age.
--
Best wishes,
Dario Western
"In order to be what you want to be you've got to learn to be everything
you're not" - Alicia Moore (aka P!nk)
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(0437) 428-859
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Trucker_18a
Thanks Bossman. The thing about me I haven't shared with anyone save
a very openly Gay Lady that is very intelligent, by photo, is the
severe reconstructive surgery to my groin area from Viet Nam.
I've been told it's horrid. Life gos on....
Ken S. Tucker
I've changed a few boys and girls diapers in my time,
a chore I preferred to give to the nearest mom, but if
she's busy, I'd have to powder their pee-pee's and bum,
and baby's aways have ther legs spread.
Where I'm from a beer at a local pub get's a female anatomy
lesson and $5 a close up table dance, from a 20 yo buxom
gal, 5 minutes later she's blockin' the TV. Of course gals
and guys are beautiful, obsessing about pee-pees is just
a stage.
Ken
Anna
> 'Liberation'. A Married Lady pays either instance no mind, is my
> experience.
Would something like this be appropriate at a nudist venue?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_k6dyxHtcGrc/SyOwwerjuPI/AAAAAAAAIqY/T_AjR0ujlkE/s200/colornude1085.jpg
Zee
>
> http://tinyurl.com/y8hxo8o- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
most earthlings see the female with legs apart in public as being
unladylike or less than modest..of course nudist are not considered by
earthlings as being modest or ladylike.....but where pants are worn by
the male leaves him perfectly acceptable....the natural behavior of
the male is to be seen observing such posture...thus if the female was
trying to attract attention it was well received and if it was through
inattention to her immodesty then a correction would be in
order.....it is so wonderful that God fixed it all where male and
female address one anothers imperfections of social graces....jz
Stuffed Tiger
<dyna...@vianet.on.ca> wrote:
> Of course gals
>and guys are beautiful, obsessing about pee-pees is just
>a stage.
Unfortunately, not everyone gets over it.
Stuffed Tiger
<wester...@nospamgmail.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I wrote a letter to AS&H magazine ages ago about this. I believe that it is
>impolite to lie on a nude beach with your legs spread apart, especially if
>you're a female.
>
>Even if you don't mean anything by it, it still gives an open invitation for
>unwanted attention by the more unsavory characters.
I know what you mean. It's so impolite to lie on a nude beach with
your lips spead apart, especially if you're a man.
Zee
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:33:24 GMT, "Dario Western"
>
we need to have an idiot or idiots of the month
contest...swallows...el cajon ca used to have ...the best all over
tan...contest and it required folks to spread em and wow it was great
at the judging also....and a woman has a right to expose her genitals
also .....great idiot stuff to run the girls away from nudism.....now
we got it straight...whew.....jz
Ken S. Tucker
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:05:57 -0800 (PST), "Ken S. Tucker"
>
> > Of course gals
> >and guys are beautiful, obsessing about pee-pees is just
> >a stage.
>
> Unfortunately, not everyone gets over it.
It doesn't matter, it's an acceptable curiousity in nude locations.
Let me give you an example.
Wife and I were sitting naked in a bar having a beer, and a dressed
woman and her ~ 14yo daughter - who just came from school -
stopped in for a chat.
Well the daughter started staring at my pee-pee, (I'm male), and
for the first couple of minutes I was a bit uncomfortable, but then
it dawned on me she was just curious, so I shifted so she could
get a better view, once I realized (I'm a bit dense) she doesn't
have one, and one day she'll need to use something like that to
create children, but inserting it into her body, so I regard her
study of me as important for her and quite natural.
Another gal we enjoyed liked to sit nude on a chair with her feet on
the chair because it felt good to sit that way, I think it helped her
back, maybe she was exhibionist but why should I care, she was
happy, and her pee-pee was in full site enjoying sunshine.
Personally I liked it, she was pleasuring herself sucking a cigar,
snipping some wine and was a very good converser.
Ken
Zee
he he...after the next big bang...i invision a world where man will
discover nudism and say ....hey you guys and girls lets all go naked
and show our stuff to the kiddies....yeah man lets do it..er call the
media and tell em to come on out.....and see us make history.....jz
Anna
You are a pervert and not a real nudist right. I certainly wouldn't
want to be nude around you.
Ken S. Tucker
As a scientist, I give people the benefit of the doubt, and learn
about humanity, so I think neither gal I cited to be "perverted".
Hard to define "pervert", one X-friend of mine was convicted of
buying kiddy porn, and even though we really like him, we just
could not forgive him, (he did 18 months in jail), we have lines,
that should not be crossed, otherwise wife and I are very tolerant.
We're clothing *optional* so you don't need to be nude around us.
Ken
Zee
>
> - Show quoted text -
Ken....there is another way and humanity grows because of it...do not
forget the sin as we grow to do better....but do forgive him...jz
Terry J. Wood
9fbd-083...@k9g2000vbl.googlegroups.com:
> Wife and I were sitting naked in a bar having a beer, and a dressed
> woman and her ~ 14yo daughter - who just came from school -
> stopped in for a chat.
They let 14 year old into bars?
What's the legal drinking age in Canada?
Ken S. Tucker
> forget the sin as we grow to do better....but do forgive him...jz
Well we (wife and I) had a good business relationship and friendship
with that guy that's based on trust and a good reputation.
Anyway he got caught with kiddy porn on his computer and was given
a probation and promised us and the judge that he would never do that
again, but he did buy more and was sent to jail. Buying kiddy porn
means somewhere he's encouraging a kid to be sexually abused.
That and a betrayal of trust is unforgiveable for me.
It's much more complicated than I explained.
Ken
Ken S. Tucker
> "Ken S. Tucker" <dynam...@vianet.on.ca> wrote in news:dcb30a36-3202-4a34-
> 9fbd-08336c3d0...@k9g2000vbl.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Wife and I were sitting naked in a bar having a beer, and a dressed
> > woman and her ~ 14yo daughter - who just came from school -
> > stopped in for a chat.
>
> They let 14 year old into bars?
> What's the legal drinking age in Canada?
This is a nice private park, with a communal rec room that had
a 10' or so bar in it with pool tables, darts, lot's of sitting
tables,
and is clothing optional. The mom and her daughter lived in the
park. Oh yeah kids are allowed in all the time.
At the 4 seasons (Freelton ON), often a bunch of kids are using
the indoor pool nude, and adults could buy beer or liquor and sit
and chat, it works good everybody.
Ken
Zee
sounds like a beer and wine bar with out the cocktails...most states
in usa allow kids with parents to attend if hard liquor is not
sold.....also regarding your friend...i think the reason for the Lord
saying that it is better to hate the sin and forgive the sinner is
that he is trying to head the masses off at the pass....if the masses
do not hate the sin....and the hate is directed at the sinner then man
does have a tendency to feel that he is alone and man alone always
need help.....see he is not alone in his sinful act as lots of folks
are also guilty....how does porn happen Ken....it happens starting
with nudism....and i think nudist sometimes hate the pedo criminal
more than the non nudist as they blame him for getting caught and
bringing attention to them.....child porn has been a staple of nudisms
past........ and i am sure you can understand this connection.......jz
Fred
<wester...@nospamgmail.com> wrote:
> Even if you don't mean anything by it, it still gives an open
> invitation for unwanted attention by the more unsavory characters.
Just like lying around without any clothes on.
Oh, wait ...
Ken S. Tucker
> Innews:ElmNm.56072$ze1...@news-server.bigpond.net.au"Dario Western"
>
> <westernor...@nospamgmail.com> wrote:
> > Even if you don't mean anything by it, it still gives an open
> > invitation for unwanted attention by the more unsavory characters.
>
> Just like lying around without any clothes on.
> Oh, wait ...
The female form has been worshipped since cavemen could
draw on walls, or form clay fertility goddesses. It enhances
reproduction and reduces homoism.
I'd guess the nude female form is the most art painted subject
in history.
I (male) did nude modelling for female artists, and they were
quite savory, (whatever the hell that means).
Would you like to see our David here,
http://www.nude-male-art.com/images/michelangelo_david2.jpg
dressed as a Wall Street Banker?
How about this guy,
http://library.thinkquest.org/07aug/00137/philosophy_files/the_thinker.jpg
in disco clothes?
I'll defer to the majority.
Ken
Casa Blanca Hot Spring
Of course.
What's between the legs is just another body part.
Anna
wrote:
> Well the daughter started staring at my pee-pee, (I'm male), and
> for the first couple of minutes I was a bit uncomfortable, but then
> it dawned on me she was just curious, so I shifted so she could
> get a better view,
I hope you just made that up.
Regardless, you are one sick dude.
Ken S. Tucker
Anna, you're overly judgemental and insulting. Fortunately my wife and
I
will never meet you.
It's rather impolite to turn your back to a person whose is speaking
to you, though I'm sure Anna would have no problem, so I turn and face
the speaker and as I said, at 1st I was somewhat uncomfortable but
that was my hang-up, because the mom and daughter were clothed.
Ken
Jenny6833A
<CasaBlancaHotSpr...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Of course.
>
> What's between the legs is just another body part.
Sometimes I agree with Bill. Like this time.
Good post.
:-)
Jenny
Anna
You can't call it "just" another body part. You at least need to
recognize the difference then look beyond it.
Anna
Actually it is all in HOW the legs are spread apart. If it seems like
a natural part of her enjoying the sun then its okay but if it is done
in a provocative manner then she should be booted from the club.
Anna
Why were they dressed at a nudist venue?
Trucker_18a
> From the nudist-resorts.org discussion forum.
>
> http://www.nudist-resorts.org/talk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=519
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yjl3c9b
>
> I would like some feedback about something that I wouldn't feel
> comfortable asking someone directly about.
>
> When I'm laying out by the pool with others, I feel most comfortable,
> when on my back, to have my arms above or behind my head and my legs
> fully open. Although I like the exposure to the sun, it's more a
> feeling of openess that just 'feels good'. I've noticed others,
> usually guys, that have their legs pretty much wide open also, so it
> appears to be okay. I just don't want to do something that seems like
> an 'in-your-face' type of posture that might be offensive to others.
I've read every link on this thread, every comment, negative and
profound.
Having lived in Miami for 18 years, before I came to Atlanta, the
Social differences are like night and day. In Miami, skin tight
Bikini's where the outlines of the genitals are pronounced, as opposed
to the fourteen layers of petticoats, in Atlanta. Attentions' are
attempted, in either case.
This thread has gone to both vectors, when the fact is, if you are
relaxed, whether you are concerned with being observed, isn't
revelent. Being a Senior Citizen, I am absolutely able to point out
when one must urinate, you attempt to be unobserved when you are on
the Beach, but running to the Surf has it's own meaning when as a
Senior.
Thusly, Noticing this is the most active thread on Recreational Nude,
I throw my comment in, when in fact, such is rather immaterial to
me.