Office Workers "Strip Off"
Jenny6833A
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1197064/Are-brave-mad-Office-workers-naked-boost-team-spirit.html
The comments below the article are hilarious.
:-)
Jenny
Jenny6833A
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1197064/Are-brave-mad-Offic...
>
> The comments below the article are hilarious.
>
> :-)
>
> Jenny
I also added the following comment:
"A group of office workers tried something unusual to see if it
improved their work environment and productivity. They report that it
did. You should all be cheering their success, and should seriously
consider trying the experiment yourselves. Yet, almost all the
comments are derisive. Have you Brits lost your zest for
experimentation, your desire to achieve new knowledge, your drive for
progress? It sure sounds like you have.
"I'm also astounded by the displays of ignorance. For example,
nudists sit on personal towels, which is just as effective as sitting
on (or in) personal pants. Moreover, nudists wash a lot more often
than most of you textiles do, which also contributes to good
sanitation. Washing oneself is easy and quick when there's no need to
get out of, and then back in to, a bundle of straps, harnesses,
leather, and cloying cloth -- cloth that you textiles seldom wash when
(and if) you wash yourselves.
"I'm really disappointed in most of you.
:-)
Jenny"
Terry J. Wood
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> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1197064/Are-brave-mad-Office-wo
> rkers-naked-boost-team-spirit.html
> The comments below the article are hilarious.
>:-)
Poor clothing compulsive textiles, living their lives in fear, hiding behind
their clothes. They'll never know the simple joy of skinny dipping. You
have to pity anyone who lives their entire lives that way. Such a waste.
Terry J. Wood
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> I also added the following comment:
They might not approve it. It may not be the reaction they are looking for.
But if you had posted "Ewwwwwww!".... :-)
Jenny6833A
> Jenny6833A <Jenny68...@aol.com> wrote in news:de76491f-6564-4e4f-9062-
> c10a6e79b...@26g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:
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> > I also added the following comment:
>
> They might not approve it. �It may not be the reaction they are looking for.
>
> But if you had posted "Ewwwwwww!".... �:-)
You're right, they haven't posted it. I'm not surprised.
<shrug>
Jenny
FREECOSPIRIT
It's not due to be screened until Thursday evening (see my note in
uk.rec.naturist). I'll reserve judgement until after the event save
to say that had I worked there I would definitely have taken part.
From the comments so far it does sound to have been a positive
experience.
Terry J. Wood
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> You're right, they haven't posted it. I'm not surprised.
You should see what I wrote. Maybe it won't get posted either! :-)
Terry
Terry J. Wood
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> From the comments so far it does sound to have been a positive
> experience.
I'll bet *they* had a great time! It's too bad the readers can't appreciate
their experience.
FREECOSPIRIT
> FREECOSPIRIT <freecospi...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in news:c23abd45-6c99-
> 480f-88e6-f2e915c76...@26g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:
>
> > From the comments so far it does sound to have been a positive
> > experience.
>
> I'll bet *they* had a great time! It's too bad the readers can't appreciate
> their experience.
Happenings like this just illustrate how wrong society's attitude to
nudity reallly is. When you come across articles like this one,
accounts of Spencer Tunic shoots, "artistic" events where people are
asked to take part in group nude experiences and even experiences of
nude portrait photogra[hy sessions. One common factor comes out.
Simply within a lot of people, a sizeable minority may be even a
majority, there is a repressed desire to be naked usuually in a group
situation but often simply as a route to self expression not really
caring whether or not others around them are nude or not. Of course
the reactions before the event are predictable. Naturists wonder what
all the fuss is about; most of us would go along with the idea becuase
bieng naked is something we enjoy and want others to enjoy or at least
try. Some texiles, a minority I believe, are so repressed and prudish
that they feel it is utterly wrong and want no part of it. Some are
curious but admit that they wouldn't have the courage to take part
themselves. A significant number of hitherto textiles will take part
for a variety of reasons.
For me the most interesting aspect of this type of event is how this
last group, first time nudists, react during the event and they feel
about it afterwards. The majority say that though self conscious at
first they really enjoyed the sense of body freedom; some of them will
become life long naturists. Even if they may never bare all again,
many of them won't, at least they should understand why naturists do
and have a live and let live attitude.
Does anyone have any views on these types of event. Do they help the
cause of natuirsm, make no real difference or harm the cause of
genuine naturism. My view is that they help it but not very much.
Freecospirit
Jenny6833A
wrote:
<snip>
> Simply within a lot of people, a sizeable minority may be even a
> majority, there is a repressed desire to be naked usuually in a group
> situation but often simply as a route to self expression not really
> caring whether or not others around them are nude or not. �Of course
> the reactions before the event are predictable. Naturists wonder what
> all the fuss is about; most of us would go along with the idea becuase
> bieng naked is something we enjoy and want others to enjoy or at least
> try. �Some texiles, a minority I believe, are so repressed and prudish
> that they feel it is utterly wrong and want no part of it.
What makes some textiles 'so repressed and prudish that they feel it
is utterly wrong'?
Do some naturists feel it is utterly wrong?
<snip>
> Does anyone have any views on these types of event. �Do they help the
> cause of natuirsm, make no real difference or harm the cause of
> genuine naturism. �My view is that they help it but not very much.
What's "genuine" naturism? How does it differ from "naturism"?
:-)
Jenny
FREECOSPIRIT
> On Jul 4, 11:30 pm, FREECOSPIRIT <freecospi...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > Simply within a lot of people, a sizeable minority may be even a
> > majority, there is a repressed desire to be naked usuually in a group
> > situation but often simply as a route to self expression not really
> > caring whether or not others around them are nude or not. Of course
> > the reactions before the event are predictable. Naturists wonder what
> > all the fuss is about; most of us would go along with the idea becuase
> > bieng naked is something we enjoy and want others to enjoy or at least
> > try. Some texiles, a minority I believe, are so repressed and prudish
> > that they feel it is utterly wrong and want no part of it.
>
> What makes some textiles 'so repressed and prudish that they feel it
> is utterly wrong'?
I've talked to plenty of textiles who will never ever go bare under
any circumstances and a minority have also said that they feel
naturism has no place on any public beach.
>
> Do some naturists feel it is utterly wrong?
>
I suppose that some naturists, though very few, might feel to go to
the office and work nude for just one day or take part in Spencer
Tunic shoot would be a gimmick which I suppose it is and not want to
be associated with it. I feel that if any of the workers in this
office were already naturists they would probably take part in the
event.
> <snip>
>
> > Does anyone have any views on these types of event. Do they help the
> > cause of natuirsm, make no real difference or harm the cause of
> > genuine naturism. My view is that they help it but not very much.
>
> What's "genuine" naturism? How does it differ from "naturism"?
>
Trust you to decide to be picky over wording again; there is in
reality little difference. You haven't said if you think these type
of "nude" experiences are more or less likely to encourage those who
take part to become to go nude elsewhere in the future.
I have read a lot of Jenny's posts and yes she is good at criticising
others but when you look at what she writes herself she rarely gives
any real indication of her own views. On this forum we are all
anonymous so you can say what really think without any consequences to
you. So Jenny tell us why you think you are a naturist and what being
a naturist means to you.
>
> :-)
>
> Jenny
Jenny6833A
> On 5 July, 08:45, Jenny6833A <Jenny68...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 4, 11:30 pm, FREECOSPIRIT <freecospi...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> > wrote:
>
> > <snip>
>
> > > Simply within a lot of people, a sizeable minority may be even a
> > > majority, there is a repressed desire to be naked usuually in a group
> > > situation but often simply as a route to self expression not really
> > > caring whether or not others around them are nude or not. Of course
> > > the reactions before the event are predictable. Naturists wonder what
> > > all the fuss is about; most of us would go along with the idea becuase
> > > bieng naked is something we enjoy and want others to enjoy or at least
> > > try. Some texiles, a minority I believe, are so repressed and prudish
> > > that they feel it is utterly wrong and want no part of it.
>
> > What makes some textiles 'so repressed and prudish that they feel it
> > is utterly wrong'?
>
> I've talked to plenty of textiles who will never ever go bare under
> any circumstances and a minority have also said that they feel
> naturism has no place on any public beach.
I gotta admit, I'm fascinated by Freeco. He ought to be the
spokesperson for some politician. I never get a straght answer. In
the above example, I ask, "What causes ..." and I get 32 words that
have nothing to do with the question.
> > Do some naturists feel it is utterly wrong?
>
> I suppose that some naturists, though very few, might feel to go to
> the office and work nude for just one day or take part in Spencer
> Tunic shoot would be a gimmick which I suppose it is and not want to
> be associated with it. �I feel that if any of the workers in this
> office were already naturists they would probably take part in the
> event.
Here we go again. The question was, "Do some naturists feel naturism
is uttery wrong" (but still participate in naturism?) Once again,
Freeco's answer doesn't address the question.
> > > Does anyone have any views on these types of event. Do they help the
> > > cause of natuirsm, make no real difference or harm the cause of
> > > genuine naturism. My view is that they help it but not very much.
>
> > What's "genuine" naturism? �How does it differ from "naturism"?
>
> Trust you to decide to be picky over wording again; there is in
> reality little difference.
If there is no difference worth mentioning, why did you make a
distinction? If there _is_ a difference worth mentioning, what is it?
>�You haven't said if you think these type
> of "nude" experiences are more or less likely to encourage those who
> take part to become to go nude elsewhere in the future.
I don't think I was asked. If you'd like me to offer an opinion, I
will.
> I have read a lot of Jenny's posts and yes she is good at criticising ...
Good grief, I'm not criticizing your point of view. At least not
yet. I'm trying to figure out WTF your opinion is. I ask questions
in hopes that you'll clarify your vagueries, and I get more vagueries
in response.
> ... but when you look at what she writes herself she rarely gives
> any real indication of her own views.
ROTFLMAO !!! Moi? You must be new here.
>�On this forum we are all
> anonymous so you can say what really think without any consequences to
> you. �So Jenny tell us why you think you are a naturist and what being
> a naturist means to you.
Why am I a naturist? Primarily, because it's comfortable.
Secondarily, because it's tangibly harmless to myself and others, and
thus is an issue of personal liberty in country that pridefully preens
while pompously pretending to be the freeest country on earth.
What does being a naturist mean to me? To me, naturism is sensible,
practical, comfortable, healthful, inexpensive, environmentally
responsible, and both personally and societally beneficial for every
human being from age 0 on up.
Now, howzaboutcha answer my questions?
:-)
Jenny
David Looser
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> I gotta admit, I'm fascinated by Freeco. He ought to be the
> spokesperson for some politician. I never get a straght answer. In
> the above example, I ask, "What causes ..." and I get 32 words that
> have nothing to do with the question.
I'm somewhat at a loss to understand why you think that Freeco is any more
qualified to answer that question than you are.
David.
Richard C.
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Jenny6833A
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> "Jenny6833A" <Jenny68...@aol.com> wrote in message
I don't think he is, but he might well have a different answer than I
do and might even have better reasons for his answer than I do for
mine.
In which case I'd learn something, and would have to beef up my
reasons or modify my view.
Learning -- that's what we're all here for, right?
:-)
Jenny
Zee
> so far, your post has not shown up.
>
> R
>
generously sexed up swingers shower and bathe more than any other
humans.....jz
Doctor Knowledge
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>
> :-)
>
> Jenny
man oh man...reminds me a couple of times three beautiful young ladies
who I used to work with at the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) asked me
to go skinny dipping with them in the river during the hot summer. I
am sure the IRS forbids workers to work nude. -shucks- I agree with
nude office working as a stress reliever and helps working better and
creates a better working environment in an office atmosphere.
Thank you for the article. I am retired.
Terry J. Wood
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> What's "genuine" naturism? How does it differ from "naturism"?
GENUINE Naturism comes from the good old US of A! Generic naturism comes
from a factory in China.
It's a lot like beer.
Terry J. Wood
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> I never get a straght answer.
What? You're only getting gay answers?
Lane
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Those are the best kind anyway.
--
Lane
Anna
> Jenny6833A <Jenny68...@aol.com> wrote in news:b953dc7c-e7e5-43a1-9246-
> 8ed8c022d...@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:
>
> > I never get a straght answer.
>
> What? You're only getting gay answers?
You are a gay LIAR
FREECOSPIRIT
I would say that comments rather than being hilarious are an
unfortunate reflection on the textile mindset. Everyone of the 21
comments published failed to understand that being naked can be a
stress reliever or even as the staff commented themselves lead to
working better together. However the editor of the "Mail Online" has
only published coments which he/she agrees with; this is typical of
the British press who rarely print letters supporting naturism no
matter how well put.
I too wrote a comment which they have not published so Jenny is not
alone, it would be interesting to know if anyone else submitted a
comment to them. Unfortunately I did not keep a copy of my comment.
I tried to expalin why the psycologist suggested working naked and the
feelings of people after they had gone naked in company for the first
time.
Freecospirit.
Zee
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> - Show quoted text -
Free.....after ten years in rec nude and forty years practicing social
nudity.....i would not even think of writing to a textile paper to
reflect my views on social nudity.....because textiles are truly
offended even by the subject matter...and talking to them has no
value....why offend when it has no reward or value.....i am beginning
to be reasured that nudist do not know or have ever had relations with
textile folks and they were all raised nudist.....to live a life of
bias thinking and not understand the ones who do not agree is not
healthy in my opinion....regards...jz
FREECOSPIRIT
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Zee - I was raised in a textile environment and for years never had
the inclination or nerve to try naturism. At the time I did not
understand what I was missing. True many naturists have naturist
parents and most of their children (not all) carry on being naturists
in their adult life. As a textile I was fascinated why naturists were
as they were, curious but lacking the nerve or opportunity to try it.
One day my wife and I came across a naturist beach in the Greek
Islands and decided that rather than walk away we would go nude for
the first time. Since then whenever we come across naturist or
clothing optional places we go nude. What made me a naturist was the
unexpected good feeling that came with simply taking off a pair of
speedos. Of course the first time I was nervous but within a less
than a minute any feeling of self consciousness was gone. My family
and my wfie's family are textile and will never change.
After my "revelation" I believe that many (possibly most) textiles are
naturists who really want to come out. Stories people have written
about their first time experiences of naturism do tend to bear this
out. Persauding them to take that first step is difficult. Why are
so there so many volunteers when Spencer Tunick comes to town unless
people want to get their kit off and don't otherwise have the nerve?
Naturists from naturist families probsably don't appreciate the first
time sensation, most naturists probably would have little to do with a
Spencer Tunick event and but it likely that some of the "textiles" who
take part become naturists.
As to writing to a textile paper to simply express the opinion that
nudity can be beneficial I don't see how that can be offensive. The
office workers despite their fears seemed to find the experience was
beneficial for them. Television companies (various channels) in the
UK have made programs in the past where people taking have gone naked
in circumstances which many naturists would find difficult.
Exhibitionism probably but also interesting studies in psycology. The
majority once the first step has been taken find the experience
liberating.
Zee
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well Free....after forty years what you have said is a repeat that i
have heard soooo many times....now being an approachable type person i
have studied this behavior and analyized this with many
nudist ...nudist are for the most part a species with unsatisfactory
relations with the general public on a personal basis and a lot of
folks in the textile world are of this type.....so let me say that
social nudity is a court of last resort for most of these folks....so
you and your wife knew sub conscienously it was....so you removed your
last bit of clothing and found that it was easy to approach others
that had did the same and they were easy to interact with something
that you had not experienced before......IOWs if loose fitting shorts
were illegal in public and there was no taboo against such behavior
such as all countries have exposing ones genitals in public against
the law...then you would have experienced the same results...the
reason is that being naughty against society produces the same result
in people and it is recognizable that causes a comaradarie among the
participants..... making it impossible for you guys to explain a
plausable reason for doing this offensive behavior......because of
personal habits and lifestyle...folks do have a hard time admitting
that sex is a part of their lives out side of marriage....and this is
not to say that you and your wife are involved in such behavior but
the comaradarie that has overwhelmed you keeps you going back for
more......you may not realize it but you and your wife could go to a
private beach where no one ever goes and walk around nude are day but
would not return because you would say...hey we can do this at home by
walking around naked and why spend the money.....but you do yern for
the comaradarie factor.....now let me tell you that i am of a
different species.....i know very well what i am doing at all times in
my life and i know my thoughts and intent...and i am honest and will
admit who i am...i do enjoy sex and try perverted things regarding sex
which includes social nakedness and i also find that childrens bodies
are as perfect as they can ever be....excersizing and perfect trim can
never produce the perfection of the child that has not went past
puberty and has bones and other things that show up and is not all
that admiring.....even children that are overweight can be perfect
skin and tone....so this represents for an honest person....hey while
the world is obsessed with finding the perfect body....the child is
the perfect body if you dont have to have big tits....so doing the
naughty to me is sexual and promiscuous and the textiles love my story
and do not believe your story or think it is a form of insanity....and
yes there is a few like me but they dont waste their time in rec
nude ...could be they are not retired yet.....regards......jz
Richard C.
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: Free.....after ten years in rec nude and forty years practicing social
: nudity.....i would not even think of writing to a textile paper to
: reflect my views on social nudity
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Thank God for that! Your views are that of a pervert.
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: .....because textiles are truly
: offended even by the subject matter
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Not true, according to Gallop Polls (among others)
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: ...and talking to them has no value
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There is no value in you talking to anyone.
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: ....why offend when it has no reward or value
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Yet, you continue to do that all the time!
You are one of the most offensive persons I know of.
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: .....i am beginning to be reasured that nudist do not know or have ever
had relations with
: textile folks and they were all raised nudist
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More false info. I have FAR more dealings with "textiles" than with
nudists.
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: .....to live a life of
: bias thinking and not understand the ones who do not agree is not
: healthy in my opinion....regards...jz
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Yet, here again, you do this continually.
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Zee
> "Zee" <jonZ...@webtv.net> wrote in message
time for your afternoon nap richard...you are gettin fussy.....jz