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Dan MacKay

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Jul 4, 2009, 3:00:56 PM7/4/09
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This is a really good message.

----- Original Message -----
Subject: Fwd: Fw: Fwd: Patriotic Resistance

I have noted that many elected officials, both
Democrats and Republicans, called upon America to unite behind Obama.

Well, I want to make it clear to all who will listen that I AM NOT
uniting behind Obama!

I will respect the Office which he holds, and I will acknowledge
his abilities as an orator and wordsmith and pray for him, BUT that
is it.

I have begun today to see what I can do to make sure that He is a
one-term President!

Why am I doing this?

It is because I do not share Obama's vision or Value system for
America ;

I do not share his Abortion beliefs;

I do not share his radical Marxist's concept of re-distributing
wealth;

I do not share his stated views on raising taxes on those who
make $150,000+ (the ceiling has been changed three times since
August);

I do not share his view that America is Arrogant;

I do not share his view that America is not a Christian Nation;
(THIS JUST SHOWS HE CERTAINLY ISN'T UP ON HIS AMERICAN HISTORY!)

I do not share his view that the military should be reduced by 25%;

I do not share his view of amnesty and giving more to illegal’s than
American Citizens who need help;(NO WAY, JOSE!)

I do not share his views on homosexuality and his definition of
marriage;

I do not share his views that Radical Islam is our friend and Israel
is our enemy who should give up any land; (GIMME A BREAK!)

I do not share his spiritual beliefs (at least the ones he has made
public);

I do not share his beliefs on how to re-work the healthcare system in
America ;

I do not share his Strategic views of the Middle East, and certainly
do not share his plan to sit down with terrorist regimes such as
Iran .

Bottom line, my America is vastly different from Obama's, and I have
a higher obligation to my Country and my God to do what is Right!

For eight (8) years, the Liberals in our Society, led by numerous
entertainers who would have no platform and no real credibility but
for their celebrity status, have attacked President Bush, his family,
and his spiritual beliefs!

They have not moved toward the center in their beliefs and their
philosophies, and they

never came together nor compromised their personal beliefs for the
betterment of our Country! They have portrayed my America as a land
where everything is tolerated except being intolerant!

They have been a vocal and irreverent minority for years; they have
mocked and attacked the very core values so important to the founding
and growth of our Country!

They have made every effort to remove the name of God or Jesus Christ
from our Society! They have challenged capital punishment, the right
to bear firearms, and the most basic principles of our criminal code;
they have attacked one of the most fundamental of all Freedoms, the
right of free speech!

Unite behind Obama? Never!

I refuse to retreat one more inch in favor of those whom I believe
are the embodiment of Evil!

PRESIDENT BUSH made mistakes during his Presidency, (EVERY PRESIDENT
DOES) however, I believe that he weighed his decisions in light of the
long established Judeo-Christian principles of our Founding Fathers!!!

Majority rules in America , and I will honor the concept; however, I
will fight with all of my power to be a voice in opposition to Obama
and "his goals for America ."

I am going to be a thorn in the side of those who, if left unchecked,
will destroy our Country!! Any more compromise is more defeat! I pray
that the results of this election will wake up many who have sat on
the sidelines and allowed the Socialist-Marxist anti-God crowd to
slowly change so much of what has been good in
America !

"Error of Opinion may be tolerated where Reason is left free to
combat it." - Thomas Jefferson

"If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be
a nation gone under." - Ronald Reagan

GOD BLESS AMERICA , AND AMERICA , BLESS GOD!


Richard C.

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Jul 5, 2009, 12:53:52 AM7/5/09
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I have to agree 100% with your post!

Richard

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Zee

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Jul 5, 2009, 5:31:34 AM7/5/09
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On Jul 4, 11:53 pm, "Richard C." <post-...@spamcop.net> wrote:
> I have to agree 100% with your post!
>
> Richard
>
> ================================"Dan MacKay" <cal1f...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>  GOD BLESS AMERICA , AND AMERICA , BLESS GOD!- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

when i see Dick Cheney....i will tell him to pick up that ol naked guy
hitch hiking down I 5 ..through seattle..jz

Lane

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Jul 5, 2009, 10:46:46 AM7/5/09
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"Richard C." <post...@spamcop.net> wrote in news:BlW3m.29352$K41.1294
@newsfe08.ams2:

> I have to agree 100% with your post!
>
> Richard
>
> ================================
> "Dan MacKay" <cal1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

> news:90e505f7-d70c-4ddb-b698-
32f494...@l5g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>

I wish Dan MacKay would stop saying he doesn't come here to discuss
politics when he so often comes here to discuss politics.

--
Lane

Dan Abel

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Jul 5, 2009, 12:23:51 PM7/5/09
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In article <Xns9C3F6CFBE1821...@188.40.43.213>,
Lane <absolu...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Where's "here"?

Newsgroups:
rec.nude,alt.cult.nudism,alt.christnet.nudism,aus.culture.naturist

And what's with all the claptrap about "one nation under God", "our
Country" and "GOD BLESS AMERICA"? Last I heard, Australia was it's own
country, and Obama is not their President.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net

Terry J. Wood

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Jul 5, 2009, 5:19:04 PM7/5/09
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Lane <absolu...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:Xns9C3F6CFBE1821absolaneyahoocom@
188.40.43.213:

> I wish Dan MacKay would stop saying he doesn't come here to discuss
> politics when he so often comes here to discuss politics.

Use your killfile.

Terry J. Wood

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Jul 5, 2009, 5:19:54 PM7/5/09
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Dan Abel <da...@sonic.net> wrote in news:dabel-B0CEF5.09235105072009@c-61-68-
245-199.per.connect.net.au:

> And what's with all the claptrap about "one nation under God", "our
> Country" and "GOD BLESS AMERICA"? Last I heard, Australia was it's own
> country, and Obama is not their President.

There are countries other than the United States?

Lane

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Jul 5, 2009, 5:26:34 PM7/5/09
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"Terry J. Wood" <Terry...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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I did. He's been in it quite a while. I didn't notice the original post
at all until Richard reposted the whole thing.

--
Lane

Terry J. Wood

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Jul 5, 2009, 5:32:36 PM7/5/09
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Lane <absolu...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:Xns9C3FB0C20233Fabsolaneyahoocom@
188.40.43.213:

> I did. He's been in it quite a while. I didn't notice the original post
> at all until Richard reposted the whole thing.

Then killfile Richard.

Lane

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Jul 5, 2009, 5:42:47 PM7/5/09
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"Terry J. Wood" <Terry...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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But Richard occassionally posts interesting things.

I'm not going to apologize for calling bullshit on Dan MacKay for
constantly posting political things and then, when challenged on them,
retreating to "I don't come here to discuss politics."

--
Lane

stinso...@hotmail.com

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Jul 5, 2009, 9:47:33 PM7/5/09
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On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 21:53:52 -0700, "Richard C."
<post...@spamcop.net> wrote:

>I have to agree 100% with your post!

Really? I'm disappointed. I note that in this great Christian nation,
the last administration made little priority of feeding the hungry,
housing the homeless, or tending this sick. Apparently those are
socialist ideals, which must be opposed and damn our alleged Christian
heritage. Christianity is perhaps best practiced in our churches and
not taken to the broader world. There seems to be no room for it in
our national consciousness or policy. It's funny though, the only
president I have ever heard call himself his brothers keeper, was
Obama. Obviously some kind of pinko buzz word.

> I do not share his Abortion beliefs;

Nor do I, but I have noticed that the abortion beliefs of presidents
has had jack shit to do with the reality of abortion since Roe v.
Wade.

> I do not share his radical Marxist's concept of re-distributing
> wealth;

We've been redistributing wealth in this country for generations. So
what?

> I do not share his stated views on raising taxes on those who
> make $150,000+ (the ceiling has been changed three times since
>August);

Yeah, we ought to tax the poor. That'll fix things.

> I do not share his view that America is Arrogant;

Imagine that.

> I do not share his view that America is not a Christian Nation;

It is not exclusively a Christian nation. We are a nation of
Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buhdists, Muslims, Athiests, etc. etc.

> (THIS JUST SHOWS HE CERTAINLY ISN'T UP ON HIS AMERICAN HISTORY!)

I am. You're not.

> I do not share his view that the military should be reduced by 25%;

> I do not share his view of amnesty and giving more to illegal�s than
>American Citizens who need help;(NO WAY, JOSE!)

Yeah, loving your neighbor means ONLY your American neighbors. Love
one another only applies to fellow citizens.

> I do not share his views on homosexuality and his definition of
>marriage;

You know, I heard a Catholic deacon give a sermon this evening. He
noted that there was a significant number of people who want to go
back to a time when the U.S. ruled the world, a woman's place was in
the kitchen, gays were in the closet, and minorities knew their place.
Sounds like Dan's one of those folks.

> I do not share his views that Radical Islam is our friend and Israel
>is our enemy who should give up any land; (GIMME A BREAK!)

Now Dan's just making shit up. Nowhere has Obama said that:
1. Radical Islam is our friend.
2. Israel is our enemy.

As to the land question, apparently Dan sees throwing people off of
their land and claiming it as your own as another Christian trait.
Hell, it worked in the U.S. Must be good for everyone. Not that we're
arrogant.

> I do not share his spiritual beliefs (at least the ones he has made
>public);

Belief in God and Jesus Christ as savior? Weird. THAT'S certainly
unchristian.

> I do not share his beliefs on how to re-work the healthcare system in
>America ;

Nope. If people can't afford insurance, fuck 'em. Let 'em die. Tend
the sick my ass.

> I do not share his Strategic views of the Middle East, and certainly
>do not share his plan to sit down with terrorist regimes such as
>Iran .

Nope. Nuke the fuckers. Why talk when we can have perpetual war, world
without end. Amen.

> Bottom line, my America is vastly different from Obama's, and I have
>a higher obligation to my Country and my God to do what is Right!

Yes, you do.

> For eight (8) years, the Liberals in our Society, led by numerous
>entertainers who would have no platform and no real credibility but
>for their celebrity status, have attacked President Bush, his family,
>and his spiritual beliefs!

Mostly they have tried to reconcile the supposed Christian beliefs of
Dubya with attacking and killing people who did not attack us, who had
neither the intent nor the means to attack us. Lying to get us into
that mess doesn't seem too spititually swift either.

> [Liberals] have been a vocal and irreverent minority for years;

That's who Obama got elected. By the minority.

>they have
>mocked and attacked the very core values so important to the founding
>and growth of our Country!

Horse shit.

> They have made every effort to remove the name of God or Jesus Christ
>from our Society!

Also horse shit.

>They have challenged capital punishment,

Thou shalt not kill is pinko propaganda. That old liberal institution,
the Catholic Church, opposes capital punishment.

> they have attacked one of the most fundamental of all Freedoms, the
>right of free speech!

Yeah, right. It was the liberals who prevented protesters from holding
signs critical of the government. Bwahahahaha!

-T.

Jan Dijkman

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Jul 6, 2009, 7:37:53 AM7/6/09
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On Sunday, 5 July 12009, Lane <absolu...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Terry J. Wood" <Terry...@hotmail.com> wrote

>> Lane <absolu...@yahoo.com> wrote

>>> I did. He's been in it quite a while. I didn't notice the original
>>> post at all until Richard reposted the whole thing.
>> Then killfile Richard.

> But Richard occassionally posts interesting things.

The very reason i don't have him killfilter'd (yet?) either.

> I'm not going to apologize for calling bullshit on Dan MacKay for
> constantly posting political things and then, when challenged on them,
> retreating to "I don't come here to discuss politics."

You misunderstand. He doesn't post his political views here for us to discuss,
but for us to agree with.

Jan Dijkman

Zee

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Jul 6, 2009, 12:20:39 PM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 6:37 am, Jan Dijkman <someb...@somewhere.nl> wrote:
> On Sunday, 5 July 12009, Lane <absolutel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > "Terry J. Wood" <TerryJW...@hotmail.com> wrote
> >> Lane <absolutel...@yahoo.com> wrote

> >>> I did. He's been in it quite a while. I didn't notice the original
> >>> post at all until Richard reposted the whole thing.
> >> Then killfile Richard.
> > But Richard occassionally posts interesting things.
>
> The very reason i don't have him killfilter'd (yet?) either.
>
> > I'm not going to apologize for calling bullshit on Dan MacKay for
> > constantly posting political things and then, when challenged on them,
> > retreating to "I don't come here to discuss politics."
>
> You misunderstand. He doesn't post his political views here for us to discuss,
> but for us to agree with.
>
> Jan Dijkman

ah come on stop lying...he has not said he did not want folks
discussing his political postings....as you and lane are pissed
because most all political postings are negative to homosexuality and
that is what you are pissed about....crawl back in you holes.....jz

Bill S

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Jul 6, 2009, 1:14:49 PM7/6/09
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We can stretch to make this post on topic. Where exactly do
nudists/naturists fit in Obama's "Nightmare on Pennsylvania Avenue" plan for
America? His future vision for America does not include personal freedoms,
just "fairness". Fairness of results issues brought up by whiner liberals
have led to loss of freedom, everywhere and there's no end in sight to what
freedom we will be asked to forced to give up for the sake of fairness. I
can imagine ugly non-nudists pleading for the government to force pretty
naked people to cover up, because its not fair they get to look better, and
this argument will be the end of another freedom.
Bill S. in AZ


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stinso...@hotmail.com

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On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:14:49 -0700, "Bill S" <whs...@cox.net> wrote:

>We can stretch to make this post on topic. Where exactly do
>nudists/naturists fit in Obama's "Nightmare on Pennsylvania Avenue" plan for
>America?

Where did they fit in Dubya's 'plan'?

>His future vision for America does not include personal freedoms,
>just "fairness".

And the evidence for this statement can be found where? Specifically.

>Fairness of results issues brought up by whiner liberals
>have led to loss of freedom, everywhere

Which freedoms have been lost? Be specific.

-T.

Terry J. Wood

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Jul 6, 2009, 9:30:04 PM7/6/09
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Lane <absolu...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:Xns9C3FB381D7D64absolaneyahoocom@
188.40.43.213:

> I'm not going to apologize for calling bullshit on Dan MacKay for
> constantly posting political things and then, when challenged on them,
> retreating to "I don't come here to discuss politics."

Don't call Bullsh*t! (That's Penn & Teller's show).

Instead, call SHENANIGANS!!!!

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/150844/?searchterm=Cow+Days

Everybody grab a broom!

Terry J. Wood

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Jul 6, 2009, 9:38:03 PM7/6/09
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Jan Dijkman <some...@somewhere.nl> wrote in
news:8vn3551t74krmteg4...@4ax.com:

> You misunderstand. He doesn't post his political views here for us to
> discuss, but for us to agree with.

Shenanigans!

Terry J. Wood

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Jul 6, 2009, 9:46:35 PM7/6/09
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stinso...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote in
news:tvc455h5act5j1r3u...@4ax.com:

>>We can stretch to make this post on topic. Where exactly do
>>nudists/naturists fit in Obama's "Nightmare on Pennsylvania Avenue" plan
>>for America?

> Where did they fit in Dubya's 'plan'?

http://tinyurl.com/What-W-Did-4-us

Lane

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Jul 6, 2009, 10:22:52 PM7/6/09
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stinso...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote in news:tvc455h5act5j1r3uup7pmep3hr07ocrrt@
4ax.com:

>>Fairness of results issues brought up by whiner liberals
>>have led to loss of freedom, everywhere
>
> Which freedoms have been lost? Be specific.
>

Certainly not the freedom to whine rabidly.

--
Lane

David Looser

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The freedom to own slaves, the freedom to lynch somebody with impunity, or
to demand that they sit at the back of the bus or on a seperate park bench
simply because they have a different skin colour. All of these are important
freedoms that have been lost because of the liberal agenda.

;-)

David.


Zee

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Jul 7, 2009, 5:03:36 AM7/7/09
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On Jul 7, 2:13 am, "David Looser" <david.loo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> <stinson_h...@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote in message
>
> news:tvc455h5act5j1r3u...@4ax.com...

>
> > On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:14:49 -0700, "Bill S" <whst...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>Fairness of results issues brought up by whiner liberals
> >>have led to loss of freedom, everywhere
>
> > Which freedoms have been lost? Be specific.
>
> The freedom to own slaves, the freedom to lynch somebody with impunity, or
> to demand that they sit at the back of the bus or on a seperate park bench
> simply because they have a different skin colour. All of these are important
> freedoms that have been lost because of the liberal agenda.
>
> ;-)
>
> David.

oh so that was the tory party conservatives huh in the uk that took
away the freedom to use the brit ships to haul those poor slaves
around and drop em off for a profit....at various countries and throw
em overboard when they became a problem.....oh what a bunch of rats
those brits and how about the freedom we lost when we gained
independence from those sorry killer brits here in the usa.....oh and
which party is gonna take the freedom to tell the queen to fuck a
donkey as she ask for money to pay the electric bill this month...jz

Dan MacKay

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> that is what you are pissed about....crawl back in you holes.....jz- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

What I said is that I don't 'Debate' Politics.

You see their problem is that they claim to be "Debating" but in
actuality to Debate means they are willing at least to consider the
other side, but most all of them aren't.

I on the other hand don't make that claim.

I posted my feelings and if they don't like it too damn bad.

Dan MacKay

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Jul 7, 2009, 3:54:32 PM7/7/09
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On Jul 5, 7:46 am, Lane <absolutel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Richard  C." <post-...@spamcop.net> wrote in news:BlW3m.29352$K41.1294

> @newsfe08.ams2:
>
> > I have to agree 100% with your post!
>
> > Richard
>
> > ================================
> > "Dan MacKay" <cal1f...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:90e505f7-d70c-4ddb-b698-
>
> 32f494b62...@l5g2000pra.googlegroups.com...

>
>
>
> I wish Dan MacKay would stop saying he doesn't come here to discuss
> politics when he so often comes here to discuss politics.
>
> --
> Lane

But Ding-Wad, I'm not "Discussing".

I post how I feel and if you don't like it too bad.
I don't post it for you to try to change my mind here, as if you
could...

Dan MacKay

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Jul 7, 2009, 3:55:41 PM7/7/09
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On Jul 5, 2:42 pm, Lane <absolutel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Terry J. Wood" <TerryJW...@hotmail.com> wrote innews:Xns9C3FB25...@216.168.3.30:
>
> > Lane <absolutel...@yahoo.com> wrote in

> > news:Xns9C3FB0C20233Fabsolaneyahoocom@ 188.40.43.213:
>
> >> I did. He's been in it quite a while. I didn't notice the original
> >> post at all until Richard reposted the whole thing.
>
> > Then killfile Richard.
>
> But Richard occassionally posts interesting things.
>
> I'm not going to apologize for calling bullshit on Dan MacKay for
> constantly posting political things and then, when challenged on them,
> retreating to "I don't come here to discuss politics."
>
> --
> Lane

And why would I want your "apology"?

You're nobody to me, with your head in a bucket.

Dan MacKay

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Jul 7, 2009, 3:56:33 PM7/7/09
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On Jul 6, 4:37 am, Jan Dijkman <someb...@somewhere.nl> wrote:

> On Sunday, 5 July 12009, Lane <absolutel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > "Terry J. Wood" <TerryJW...@hotmail.com> wrote
> >> Lane <absolutel...@yahoo.com> wrote

> >>> I did. He's been in it quite a while. I didn't notice the original
> >>> post at all until Richard reposted the whole thing.
> >> Then killfile Richard.
> > But Richard occassionally posts interesting things.
>
> The very reason i don't have him killfilter'd (yet?) either.
>
> > I'm not going to apologize for calling bullshit on Dan MacKay for
> > constantly posting political things and then, when challenged on them,
> > retreating to "I don't come here to discuss politics."
>
> You misunderstand. He doesn't post his political views here for us to discuss,
> but for us to agree with.
>
> Jan Dijkman

No, I post them whether you agree or not.

Dan MacKay

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Jul 7, 2009, 4:01:25 PM7/7/09
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On Jul 7, 12:13 am, "David Looser" <david.loo...@btinternet.com>
wrote:
> <stinson_h...@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote in message
>
> news:tvc455h5act5j1r3u...@4ax.com...

>
> > On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:14:49 -0700, "Bill S" <whst...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>Fairness of results issues brought up by whiner liberals
> >>have led to loss of freedom, everywhere
>
> > Which freedoms have been lost? Be specific.
>
> The freedom to own slaves, the freedom to lynch somebody with impunity, or
> to demand that they sit at the back of the bus or on a seperate park bench
> simply because they have a different skin colour. All of these are important
> freedoms that have been lost because of the liberal agenda.
>
> ;-)
>
> David.

Now why is it I expected some ignorant person to bring out the
"Republicans/Conservatives are Racists" nonsense.

Didn't quite expect it to be Looser, but.....................

Terry J. Wood

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Jul 7, 2009, 10:56:07 PM7/7/09
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"David Looser" <david....@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:7bgas0F...@mid.individual.net:

> The freedom to own slaves, the freedom to lynch somebody with impunity,
> or to demand that they sit at the back of the bus or on a seperate park
> bench simply because they have a different skin colour. All of these are
> important freedoms that have been lost because of the liberal agenda.
>
> ;-)

http://tinyurl.com/ooooh-those-liberal-varmints

Terry J. Wood

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David Looser

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Jul 8, 2009, 4:53:52 AM7/8/09
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"Dan MacKay" <cal1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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That's not what I said, it's not even close to what I said (though of course
if the cap fits?)

What I *said* was that these "freedoms" were lost due to the whining of
liberals. I notice that you have been unable to find any yourself.

David.

Anna

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Jul 8, 2009, 11:50:53 AM7/8/09
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I hate John McCain.

But it is a fact that he did warn people about Fannie and Freddie.

Even proposed regulations years before the whole thing came crashing
down.

But the Dems called him a racist so he backed off.

The truth is that the Left caused this whole financial crisis. Fannie
and Freddie is a creation of government interference, not capitalism.
Sub prime loans would never exist in capitalism. It took government
interference to create sub prime loans.

Does anyone here know ☭Terry Wood? I mean apart from the newsgroup?
Has anyone met her in the flesh. When it gets worse than it is even
now and it will get worse than now I hope someone yells at her for her
support of the forces that is causing this evil. NO, ☭Terry, Lane, and
all you other leftists you aren't merely wrong. You are indeed evil.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM

Anna

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Jul 8, 2009, 11:52:56 AM7/8/09
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On Jul 7, 10:02 pm, "Terry J. Wood" <TerryJW...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Terry J. Wood" <TerryJW...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:Xns9C41E94B0E02EEIEIO@

The only thing that makes you any different than a bag of shit is the
bag.

People will see the truth. People will realize that you are not merely
wrong.

You are indeed evil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0

Zee

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Jul 8, 2009, 12:41:15 PM7/8/09
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well Anna i guess i agree with you on most all of that but could be
you have not experienced the real evil that has existed in this
country that is the original sin.....RR knew it and i knew it before i
heard he knew it.....it is the evil of govt supporting unions....when
this happened it was like a bison runaway....steer them to the cliff
and they will all go over...the union folks making the high wages tend
to live better than their blue collar counterpart and this sets off a
resentment...the defense and auto industry are the worst at this evil
and i have worked a few years in the defense industry and saw and
lived this evil....now at the rate of 75 dollars an hour in the auto
industry it would be impossible to sell a car and make a profit when
other countries do it so much cheaper...and what did the damned govt
do back in the eighties....hey you guy if you aint gonna buy american
then we gonna force you to by putting import taxed high enough to
force .....it still did not change the buying public because like ross
perot said...your cars are too high and they are a pile of junk and
you refuse to change....and he bailed out and the public forgot
it.....this crazy blue collar pay rate caused an epedemic of spending
to buy all those over priced homes and overpriced autos and fannie mae
and all these bank were the dominos past the unions forcing them to go
bankrupt....because of the sub companies that insured a chimp morgage
that was unemployed.....the govt support of unions is the original
culprit....and what does comrade hussein do...hey first he is going to
support and protect the unions....second he is going to throw more
money at the problem instead of letting every thing happen
naturally ....the ones that fucked up have to go under the bridge and
eat soup and stand in line to get it...then he says everybody go in to
more debt ...work more hours....and spend spend spend....hear yea hear
yea....to establish a marxist socialistic society fast and
furious...collapse the monetary system and total socialism is what you
have left.....so to do this do exactly what comrade hussein says to
do....it is the fast way to get there ....and yes the politicians all
know this too but like ol whimpy mccain they cant stand to be called
bad names so they choke....and panic and we all luv it so far.....jz

Richard C.

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Jul 8, 2009, 4:05:48 PM7/8/09
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"Dan MacKay" <cal1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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: Now why is it I expected some ignorant person to bring out the


: "Republicans/Conservatives are Racists" nonsense.
:
: Didn't quite expect it to be Looser, but.....................

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Yet GW Bush appointed more minorities to positions of REAL authority than
any president in history - including the Obamanator!


Richard C.

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"Anna" <annal...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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: I hate John McCain.

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Which is another reason you are an ass hole!


Richard C.

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"Anna" <annal...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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: Does anyone here know Terry Wood? I mean apart from the newsgroup?


: Has anyone met her in the flesh.

==================================
I would really like to.

I would rather spend a day with her than one second with the likes of you!


Dan MacKay

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Jul 9, 2009, 3:10:02 PM7/9/09
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On Jul 8, 1:53 am, "David Looser" <david.loo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> "Dan MacKay" <cal1f...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:a656d8ee-5f98-41d6...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com...

> On Jul 7, 12:13 am, "David Looser" <david.loo...@btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > <stinson_h...@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote in message
>
> >news:tvc455h5act5j1r3u...@4ax.com...
>
> > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:14:49 -0700, "Bill S" <whst...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > >>Fairness of results issues brought up by whiner liberals
> > >>have led to loss of freedom, everywhere
>
> > > Which freedoms have been lost? Be specific.
>
> > The freedom to own slaves, the freedom to lynch somebody with impunity, or
> > to demand that they sit at the back of the bus or on a seperate park bench
> > simply because they have a different skin colour. All of these are
> > important
> > freedoms that have been lost because of the liberal agenda.
>
> > ;-)
>
> > David.
>
> Now why is it I expected some ignorant person to bring out the
> "Republicans/Conservatives are Racists" nonsense.
>
> That's not what I said, it's not even close to what I said (though of course
> if the cap fits?)
>
> What I *said* was that these "freedoms" were lost due to the whining of
> liberals. I notice that you have been unable to find any yourself.
>
> David.
>
> Didn't quite expect it to be Looser, but.....................- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Actually if people look back at what you said which I left intact that
is exactly what you said.

This "Conservatives are Racists" nonsense is just that, Nonsense.

It is typical though of Liberals in their effort to make Conservatives
look as bad as they can, because they can't beat them without
resorting to such fallacies.

David Looser

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Jul 9, 2009, 5:19:58 PM7/9/09
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"Dan MacKay" <cal1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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On Jul 8, 1:53 am, "David Looser" <david.loo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> That's not what I said, it's not even close to what I said (though of
> course
> if the cap fits?)
>
> What I *said* was that these "freedoms" were lost due to the whining of
> liberals. I notice that you have been unable to find any yourself.
>
> David.
>
> Didn't quite expect it to be Looser, but.....................- Hide quoted
> text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Actually if people look back at what you said which I left intact that
is exactly what you said.

Total, complete and utter rubbish.

Listen sunshine, you can pretend my words mean anything you like, but what I
say is what I say, not what you would like it to be, OK?

You really are every bit as blinkered as "Anna"

David.


Dan Myers

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Jul 9, 2009, 11:32:58 PM7/9/09
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Your words indeed speak for themselves.
You are one of those that believe all Conservatives are 'Racists', you
believe Liberal lies.

Ok this name is me.

David Looser

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Jul 10, 2009, 2:33:58 AM7/10/09
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"Dan Myers" <cal1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Your words indeed speak for themselves.
> You are one of those that believe all Conservatives are 'Racists',

OK, quote the bit of my post where I say that.

> you
> believe Liberal lies.

Point out the "lies".


>
> Ok this name is me.

Yeah, an idiot who thinks that inventing sock-puppets is OK as long as he
identifies himself. The obvious question is WHY do you do it? what point is
there to such childish behaviour beyond simply being childish?

As for the substantive point, nowhere do I say that all conservatives are
racist, I never even mentioned conservatives in my original post. It's clear
that white US society in general has been deeply racist in the past, and
still is to a lesser extent - both Bill S and Zee have posted the most
blatant racist remarks here in recent months. But, unlike "Anna", and you
apparently, I don't make sweeping generalisations about millions of people
simply because they all subscribe in a loose way to a political philosophy.

David.


Dan Myers

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Jul 10, 2009, 6:52:02 AM7/10/09
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Actually I am freely identifying myself and you have already shown
your opinion of "white Americans" in your posts, I don't have to quote
you.


Liberal lies-Conservatives are Racists.

Zee

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Jul 10, 2009, 9:25:21 AM7/10/09
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On Jul 10, 1:33 am, "David Looser" <david.loo...@btinternet.com>
wrote:
> "Dan Myers" <cal1f...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

gee David....you are so blatantly wrong because of ignorance.....one
can note differences of races for educational purposes that result in
advancement for all without being racist....racist is to believe these
things with intent to rule ....there we go again with that word
intent....you are black ....right......a good example would be making
note in public of the street you live on...out of 100 total residences
35 had lots of trash around their houses and rats can be seen around
the trash....these houses were inhabited by blacks.....another five
houses can be seen by whites with equal amounts of trash and
rats......there is not intent in this statement to rule only let folks
be aware who seems to be out of line and hopefully educate folks that
trash and rats are not acceptable.....unless the statement is made the
folks with the trash may be thinging that our trash is good and that
is the reason everyone waves at us and seems friendly......and the
blacks can go over to black town and tell those folks....i learned
something ....white folks do not like us blacks having trash and
rats...so may be they are right....and the world lived happily ever
after........jz

stinso...@hotmail.com

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Jul 10, 2009, 10:13:32 AM7/10/09
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On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:52:02 -0700 (PDT), Dan Myers
<cal1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Actually I am freely identifying myself and you have already shown
>your opinion of "white Americans" in your posts,

None of which you'll reproduce, of course.

> I don't have to quote
>you.

No, you don't. You will not engage in any reasoned debate, nor produce
evidence. You'll lie and stick with it, no matter what. Which is why
you and all of your little socks will continue to reside in my
killfile.

-T.

Terry J. Wood

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Jul 10, 2009, 1:30:10 PM7/10/09
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"David Looser" <david....@btinternet.com> responds to Sock Puppet Du Jour:

>> Ok this name is me.

> Yeah, an idiot who thinks that inventing sock-puppets is OK as long as
> he identifies himself. The obvious question is WHY do you do it? what
> point is there to such childish behaviour beyond simply being childish?

When you can't find people to take your position in a debate, with sock
puppets you can just "make new friends" and Voil� --- instant popular support
for what you are saying.

That's a lot easier than making thought out, reasoned arguments.

---
Terry

"I bet you wish I was a puppet so you could stick your hand up my ass and
make me do what you want." -- Marlon Brando to Frank Oz.

http://tinyurl.com/Miss-Danny

Terry J. Wood

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Jul 10, 2009, 1:41:50 PM7/10/09
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stinso...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote in news:csie55t49936v11p4ebapcu5fu4em72n1h@
4ax.com:

> No, you don't. You will not engage in any reasoned debate, nor produce
> evidence. You'll lie and stick with it, no matter what. Which is why
> you and all of your little socks will continue to reside in my
> killfile.

http://www.timem.com/starwebs/williamwindom/gallery/pics/windom54.jpg

"Five Characters in Search of an Exit" was one of the Twilight Zone episodes
that the SciFi channel showed during the 4th of July marathon.

Rod Serling liked a story with a twist. If only he had lived to see USENET
and the killfile!

The end of the story has the lead character ("The Major" played by William
Windom) escaping his confinement only to be put right back in the can --
PLONK.

What's "PLONK"? That's the sound of "The Major" hitting the bottom of the
"collection can".

Yes, no matter how many times The Major may have tried to escape, he would be
put right back into the can, with all the other puppets -- I mean "dolls".

I never get tired of this episode. It's so prophetic!

Zee

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Jul 10, 2009, 2:06:58 PM7/10/09
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On Jul 10, 12:41 pm, "Terry J. Wood" <TerryJW...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> stinson_h...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote in news:csie55t49936v11p4ebapcu5fu4em72n1h@

terry....you are a victim of arrested development....and there is not
cure....sad.....jz

Dan Myers

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Jul 10, 2009, 9:53:44 PM7/10/09
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On Jul 10, 7:13 am, stinson_h...@HOTMAIL.COM wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:52:02 -0700 (PDT), Dan Myers
>
> <cal1f...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >Actually I am freely identifying myself and you have already shown
> >your opinion of "white Americans" in your posts,
>
> None of which you'll reproduce, of course.
>
> > I don't have to quote
> >you.
>
> No, you don't. You will not engage in any reasoned debate, nor produce
> evidence. You'll lie and stick with it, no matter what. Which is why
> you and all of your little socks will continue to reside in my
> killfile.
>
> -T.

David made the obvious statement that "Conservatives are Racists" and
I pointed it out, that is his ignorance.

I find it amusing (but sad) that Liberals cling to that lie in order
to make Conservatives look bad.

I know many black Conservatives that think that lie is funny.

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