Anastasia: Disney makes a movie
Little Earthquake
I went to see Stars Wars last night (for the first time) and in the
previews we found out that Disney is coming out with a new movie.
It's about the Duchess Anastasia (Of course we know that "Yes Anastasia"
is written about this same Duchess).
Kind of disturbing that Disney would do a movie about her.
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John Caporale
Bah, I have no respect for Disney as of now. They lost my attention when
Lion King came out. Beauty&The Beast is the best work, IMO. Seeya,
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Jennie Alibasic
On 7 Feb 1997, John Caporale wrote:
> Bah, I have no respect for Disney as of now. They lost my attention when
> Lion King came out. Beauty&The Beast is the best work, IMO. Seeya,
> --
*grin* I hate to admitt this, but the LionKing was just wonderful
IMO..cheesy, yes...but I go for sappy cheesy stuff. Heck, I started
bawling at the opening titles already. (yah yah, that's the kind'a gal I
am..heh) I just really really love James Earl Jones rrrrrrrumbeling voice,
and Jeremy Irons sacrastic voice..YUM!=)
Bah. Just had to say this.;)
Jennie, who's a sucker when at movies.
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In article <Pine.GSO.3.95.970204...@panther.Gsu.EDU>
Little Earthquake <gs1...@panther.Gsu.EDU> writes:
>It's about the Duchess Anastasia (Of course we know that "Yes Anastasia"
>is written about this same Duchess).
>
>
>Kind of disturbing that Disney would do a movie about her.
mare before Christmas, Toy Story and Aladdin exempted. They recycle the same
damn story over and over and in each movie the heroine gets bigger breasts.
Don't like Disney, no sir.
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John Caporale <j.cap...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Bah, I have no respect for Disney as of now. They lost my attention when
> Lion King came out. Beauty&The Beast is the best work, IMO. Seeya,
I liked the Lion King, and Aladdin. And The Hunchback of Notre Dame was
cool (even though it had little to do with the book). Any Disney movie that
can give a kid nightmares is cool.
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AngryBeast
How very awful. Disney has the knack for taking beloved tales and classic
stories and turning them into mass marketing projects with annoying music.
(For example: Hunchback of Notre Dame. Pathetic quasi-human (no pun
intended) Hugo archetype becomes **cute** to appeal to children. Products
of every kind ensue. Pocahontas. 13-year old kidnap victim and
probably-raped-by-John-Smith Native American becomes 18-year old
miniskirted sexpot. Products of every kind ensue). Sorry if this message
sounds bitter, but I feel very strongly about Disney movies. I'm sure
Nicholas, Alexandra, and Anastasia Romanov are rolling in their graves.
:) But I'm happy anyway, Brian the Angry Beast
Daniel Bradshaw
>It's about the Duchess Anastasia (Of course we know that "Yes Anastasia"
>is written about this same Duchess).
>Kind of disturbing that Disney would do a movie about her.
I do hope that they don't kidify the story...make it "the Duckess
Anastasia" or something like that.
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AngryBeast (angry...@aol.com) wrote:
: of every kind ensue. Pocahontas. 13-year old kidnap victim and
: probably-raped-by-John-Smith Native American becomes 18-year old
: miniskirted sexpot. Products of every kind ensue).
Where did you get this about Pocahontas? It certainly doesn't jibe with
any of the historical sources I've encountered.
Angela
Kleefeld
Jennie Alibasic wrote:
>
> On 7 Feb 1997, John Caporale wrote:
>
> > Bah, I have no respect for Disney as of now. They lost my attention when
> > Lion King came out. Beauty&The Beast is the best work, IMO. Seeya,
You shouldn't watch Disney movies because a) they suck now, and b) Lion
King was nothing but a cheap bit of plagiarism off of a Japanese
cartoon, which was a pretty famous cartoon in Japan, as it was the first
color Japanimation (done in the sixties). Thievery like that is not to
be tolerated.
Eric
Kirk Haines
AngryBeast (angry...@aol.com) wrote:
:
: How very awful. Disney has the knack for taking beloved tales and classic
: stories and turning them into mass marketing projects with annoying music.
My least favorate example example of that is The Little Mermaid. A
beautifully tragic story completely ruined.
Michelle
Flutist
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In article <Pine.GSO.3.95.970204...@panther.Gsu.EDU>, Little Earthquake <gs1...@panther.Gsu.EDU> writes:
>
>
>I went to see Stars Wars last night (for the first time) and in the
>previews we found out that Disney is coming out with a new movie.
>
>
>is written about this same Duchess).
>
>
>Kind of disturbing that Disney would do a movie about her.
>
problems with the projector, so I could be wrong about this), but I got the
impression it was not about the real Anastasia, but about a woman who
claims to be the missing Anastasia. This is a true story, there really was
a mystery woman who made this claim. She had intimate knowledge of the
royal family and some relatives thought she did bear a close resemblance.
Other relatives declared her a fraud. This was the basis for a 1956 movie
in which Ingrid Bergman played the title role and won an Oscar. I think
recently DNA tests showed that she wasn't the real Anastasia. I believe she
died sometime in the last couple of years. It sure would've been
interesting if Anastasia had really survived the massacre.
Dan
Aimee Lortskell
AngryBeast (angry...@aol.com) wrote:
: How very awful. Disney has the knack for taking beloved tales and classic
: stories and turning them into mass marketing projects with annoying music.
: intended) Hugo archetype becomes **cute** to appeal to children. Products
: probably-raped-by-John-Smith Native American becomes 18-year old
: miniskirted sexpot. Products of every kind ensue).
i can't stand disney myself, but where does this probably raped thing
come in? i guess i'm not familiar with the historical aspect of the
pocahontas thing (nor did i see the disney film), so can you explain what
you've based that on?
: Sorry if this message
: sounds bitter, but I feel very strongly about Disney movies. I'm sure
: Nicholas, Alexandra, and Anastasia Romanov are rolling in their graves.
i somehow doubt that. dead people really aren't very active. besides,
it wouldn't be any more offensive than the cazillion books already
written about them, and films, including ones about various
impersonators. at least this one doens't even pretend to be remotely
historical. they're pushing it as pure fiction.
Aimee the Magdalene
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Little Earthquake <gs1...@panther.Gsu.EDU> wrote:
: I went to see Stars Wars last night (for the first time) and in the
: previews we found out that Disney is coming out with a new movie.
: It's about the Duchess Anastasia (Of course we know that "Yes Anastasia"
: is written about this same Duchess).
Umm, it's not a Disney flick. {Or rather, I'm assuming it's not,
since it didn't have "Disney" plastered all over it.} It looks like a
Disney flick {cheesy storyline, shitty animation}, but it ain't. Go
back and look at the preview: Disney always plasters their name on
everything 'cause they know that parents remember when Disney did
*good* animation and stories {completely opposite of the utter shit
they produce now}, and this had no mention of it. IIRC, my friends
and I thought that it was the same folks who did "An American Tail",
but that might have been something we just pulled out of our
collective ass.
/nad
DanKitti99
>> i can't stand disney myself, but where does this probably raped thing
come in? i guess i'm not familiar with the historical aspect of the
pocahontas thing (nor did i see the disney film), so can you explain what
you've based that on? <<
Aimee..............I agree with Disney. They act like they OWN the
classic stories, after they change them a LOT. See the ORIGINAL Little
Mermaid, not the Disney version. Did you know that in the original film I
saw, the mermaid was completely uncovered above the waist? As she should
be, it is inapropriate to cover a mermaid's boobas -- not making that up,
that's what I heard. Of course they don't SHOW them either, she has long
hair or is seen from the back, or will be holding some object, etc.
I dunno if Pocahontas was raped, but I have heard there is no evidence
that she and John Smith were intimate.
But, an 18 yo sexpot in a miniskirt, that is OK. I like that. ;)
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>John Caporale <j.cap...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Bah, I have no respect for Disney as of now. They lost my attention when
>> Lion King came out. Beauty&The Beast is the best work, IMO. Seeya
Hmmm. Lion King. Didn't watch it, but I have a few bones to pick with
the scenes I have seen.
1) Lions don't have kings. The least stable position in lion society is
that of the male.
2) Lions don't live in the jungle. Neither do meerkats. They both live
in the savannah. Same continent, comepletely different ecosystem.
3) The warthog probably would have eaten the poor baby lion, but we'll
forgive that because one of Disney's old (good) films, the Fox and the Hound.
Actually, I don't think Disney has made a good film since, oh, say, Robin
Hood. Why does every film need to have a trippy psychedelic song and
dance number, anyway? Especially the Be a Pest one. Hmmm, dancing
silver ware. What -did- they put in Beauty's soup...
grump grump grump
robyn
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eva piccininni wrote:
>
> AngryBeast (angry...@aol.com) wrote:
>
> > How very awful. Disney has the knack for taking beloved tales and classic
> > stories and turning them into mass marketing projects with annoying music.
>
>
>can someone confirm that this *is* disney putting out the anastasia
>movie? i thought someone had posted that, while the animation was very
>disney-esque, it was actually by 20th century fox.
>
> -> eva
Very true. While it is VERY similar looking to a disney film (hell, even
the trailor I saw at STAR WARS was similiar to the trailors for BEAUTY
AND THE BEAST, ALADDIN, and LION KING!), but it's 20th Century Fox
putting it out.
Cooper
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This is the most disturbing media news I have heard in a long time. If
it's Touchstone or Hollywood pictures, okay, maybe it will be okay. But,
if it's animated, it will be a total joke.
What's next, the Bloody Revolution ride at Disneyland?
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AngryBeast
True, they have found the body of the supposedly missing Anastasia, but
they are still missing a couple other of the sisters. Anna, the woman who
claimed to be Anastasia, was recovering from amnesia and remembered vivid
scenes from the Romanov Palace accurately and recalled intimate secrets
about members of the royal family which turned out to be true. My
personal theory is that Anna was one of the other sisters, whom they still
haven't found.
:) -- Brian the Angry Beast
Anne Laurel Erickson
I'm a little rusty on my biology, but I thought that DNA among siblings
was basically the same? If I'm being stupid, forgive me; I got that more
from The Simpsons than from anything I ever read... ;)
AngryBeast (angry...@aol.com) wrote:
: True, they have found the body of the supposedly missing Anastasia, but
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Angela Reid
DanKitti99 (danki...@aol.com) wrote:
: >> i can't stand disney myself, but where does this probably raped thing
: pocahontas thing (nor did i see the disney film), so can you explain what
: you've based that on? <<
: Aimee..............I agree with Disney. They act like they OWN the
: classic stories, after they change them a LOT. See the ORIGINAL Little
: Mermaid, not the Disney version.
Pfah. Read Hans Christian Andersen's. He wrote the thing. HIS is the
ORIGINAL Little Mermaid.
: I dunno if Pocahontas was raped, but I have heard there is no evidence
: that she and John Smith were intimate.
I should think not. Certainly Smith never claimed they were. There is
evidence that he misinterpreted her saving of his life (which could have
been a ceremonial ritual and not an actual threat), but otherwise he
seems pretty clear about who is who and what is what.
Angela
Angela Reid
Hmm. You beat me, Anne. :) If Anna Anderson were a Romanov at all, I do
believe the DNA testing would have shown so. Besides, I'm pretty sure
that all the bodies at the scene were identified (Olga, Tatiana & Marie,
the other sisters), with only Anastasia and Alexei missing. It's highly
unlikely that Anna Anderson was Alexei, unless sex-change technology is
older than I think. ;)
Anne Laurel Erickson (aner...@sendit.nodak.edu) wrote:
: I'm a little rusty on my biology, but I thought that DNA among siblings
Angela Reid
Aimee Lortskell (ai...@rocket.cc.umr.edu) wrote:
: AngryBeast (angry...@aol.com) wrote:
<snip>
: : of every kind ensue. Pocahontas. 13-year old kidnap victim and
: : probably-raped-by-John-Smith Native American becomes 18-year old
: : miniskirted sexpot. Products of every kind ensue).
: i can't stand disney myself, but where does this probably raped thing
: come in? i guess i'm not familiar with the historical aspect of the
: pocahontas thing (nor did i see the disney film), so can you explain what
: you've based that on?
I'm not AngryBeast, but I do know a little bit about the historical aspect
of Pocahontas (I read John Smith in preparation for my master's comps, and
I was intrigued enough by the film to dig a bit).
The really interesting perspective on all this is the Powhatan Nation's.
They point out that Pocahontas is a nickname meaning "naughty one" or
"spoiled child," and that Pocahontas' real name was Matoaka. John Smith
first came into contact with her as a guest of her father's in 1607, when
she was about 11 or 12 years old. Although John Smith talks about his
contact with the Native Americans immediately afterwards, he doesn't see
fit to bring up the Pocahontas story until 17 years later. In 1612,
according to the Nation, Matoaka was kidnapped and held in Jamestown. She
wasn't released until 1614, by which time she had been coerced into
wedding John Rolfe and had been redubbed "Rebecca" (or is that Rachel?
Hmm. :( I've forgotten.) She was taken to England, says the Nation, as
part of a propoganda tour for the colonies where she came face to face
with John Smith. Apparently, she was so upset and angry to see him that
she turned her back on him and refused to speak. She died in 1617 at the
age of 21.
The "white" version of this tale:
Pocahontas at appr. age 12 met John Smith while he was a guest of her
father's tribe. She saved him from threatened death/played a
ceremonial part in a religious ritual and became the darling of the
colonies. She voluntarily wed Rolfe and went off to England in style
(John Smith wrote a letter of recommendation for her).
Either way you look at the story, she died too damned young.
Angela
2132...@msu.edu
>Hmmm. Lion King. Didn't watch it, but I have a few bones to pick with
>the scenes I have seen.
>2) Lions don't live in the jungle. Neither do meerkats. They both live
>in the savannah. Same continent, comepletely different ecosystem.
scenes were when Simba *ran away* and was essentially in hiding. They
at least had the lions living mainly on grassland.
Michael O'Toole
On Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:55:44 -0500, Little Earthquake
<gs1...@panther.Gsu.EDU> wrote:
>
>I went to see Stars Wars last night (for the first time) and in the
>previews we found out that Disney is coming out with a new movie.
>
>It's about the Duchess Anastasia (Of course we know that "Yes Anastasia"
>is written about this same Duchess).
>
>Kind of disturbing that Disney would do a movie about her.
>
AAAACCCCCKKKKK! What's next? Little furry woodland creatures doing
Hamlet!?! Oh dear. I hope there aren't any Disney execs here.
Mike
Kevin D Fox
In article <5dm6gr$58a$1...@newz.oit.unc.edu>, Angela Reid wrote:
>Hmm. You beat me, Anne. :) If Anna Anderson were a Romanov at all, I do
>believe the DNA testing would have shown so. Besides, I'm pretty sure
>that all the bodies at the scene were identified (Olga, Tatiana & Marie,
>the other sisters), with only Anastasia and Alexei missing. It's highly
>unlikely that Anna Anderson was Alexei, unless sex-change technology is
>older than I think. ;)
presence of hemophilia (the gene being introduced into the Russian royal family
via Anastasias mother, who was, if my history serves me correctly, daughter of
Queen Victoria) using some member of the British Royal Fixtures' blood for
comparison and it was found that Anna was not Anastasia and mostlikely a Polish
farm girl who dissappeared about the same time. this is all from memory so the
details are by no means set in stone. As for Alexei . . . he was probably sucked
into a time warp and brought (not so-) far into the future to when Russia is ruled
by apes ("Stop callingk eachother 'comrade', you filthy red apes!" . . ."Damn you
all to hell!")
>
>Anne Laurel Erickson (aner...@sendit.nodak.edu) wrote:
>: I'm a little rusty on my biology, but I thought that DNA among siblings
>: was basically the same? If I'm being stupid, forgive me; I got that more
>: from The Simpsons than from anything I ever read... ;)
>
>: AngryBeast (angry...@aol.com) wrote:
>
>: : True, they have found the body of the supposedly missing Anastasia, but
>: : they are still missing a couple other of the sisters. Anna, the woman who
>: : claimed to be Anastasia, was recovering from amnesia and remembered vivid
>: : scenes from the Romanov Palace accurately and recalled intimate secrets
>: : about members of the royal family which turned out to be true. My
>: : personal theory is that Anna was one of the other sisters, whom they still
>: : haven't found.
>
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Noshir Patel
On Sun, 09 Feb 1997 16:43:53 GMT, mie...@mindspring.com (Rich and
Nadyne Mielke) wrote:
>Umm, it's not a Disney flick. {Or rather, I'm assuming it's not,
>since it didn't have "Disney" plastered all over it.} It looks like a
>Disney flick {cheesy storyline, shitty animation}, but it ain't. Go
>back and look at the preview: Disney always plasters their name on
>everything 'cause they know that parents remember when Disney did
>*good* animation and stories {completely opposite of the utter shit
>they produce now}, and this had no mention of it. IIRC, my friends
>and I thought that it was the same folks who did "An American Tail",
>but that might have been something we just pulled out of our
>collective ass.
>
>/nad
A) Assuming I am one of the friends you reference, I believe the
"collective ass" remark about sums it up. Nad: "Maybe it's by the
same people who did An American Tail." Nosh: "Ah, another terrible
animated movie with too much singing." Cat: "I liked An American
Tail." Somebody (probably Nad): "I'm sorry." Nosh: "Then again, she
likes Disney..."
B) IIRC... "If I recall"? Just guessing. Last I checked, recall was
one word... Oh, maybe "If I recall correctly", hm... OK. Never mind.
C) On a not incredibly related note, does anyone else think it would
have been cool if Crow and Tom Servo appeared in the Jawa salvage
vehicle? I think Lucas could have worked a deal out for that...
Neil Buniao Tejano
In article <Pine.GSO.3.95.970204...@panther.Gsu.EDU>, Little Earthquake <gs1...@panther.Gsu.EDU> writes...
>
>
>I went to see Stars Wars last night (for the first time) and in the
>previews we found out that Disney is coming out with a new movie.
>
>
>It's about the Duchess Anastasia (Of course we know that "Yes Anastasia"
>is written about this same Duchess).
>
>
>Kind of disturbing that Disney would do a movie about her.
Disney is not producing the Anastasia movie. That cartoon is
coming from 20th Century Fox. Disney's next big-budget cartoon
will be Hercules.
Neil
Laurie Ratcliff
Noshir Patel (no...@crl.com) wrote:
: C) On a not incredibly related note, does anyone else think it would
: have been cool if Crow and Tom Servo appeared in the Jawa salvage
: vehicle? I think Lucas could have worked a deal out for that...
Yeah! That would have been hysterical! I laughed out loud when i read
it....
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c67...@plato.ucs.mun.ca,News2 writes:
>AAAACCCCCKKKKK! What's next? Little furry woodland creatures doing
>Hamlet!?! Oh dear. I hope there aren't any Disney execs here.
>Mike
whoa, you must be psychic. See my other post in this thread, you'll
find it very interesting. . .
lil shadow
Melanie Watts
>>Hmmm. Lion King. Didn't watch it, but I have a few bones to pick with
>>the scenes I have seen.
You know the story is based loosely on Hamlet? Sad, isn't it, Hamlet is
my favourite Shakespeare play, and they go and Disneyize it. If you
look at the movie as *just* a movie, not a cartoon based on Hamlet,
it's alright. But if they had ever advertised it as, you know, "the
jungle Hamlet" or something, I wouldn't have been able to enjoy it at
all.
There are four Disney movies that I truly do enjoy: Toy Story (for the
graphics), Peter Pan (for the story), Fantasia (for the music), and
Beauty and the Beast, just 'cause I think Belle is cool.
little shadow
Rich and Nadyne Mielke
no...@crl.com (Noshir Patel) wrote:
: On Sun, 09 Feb 1997 16:43:53 GMT, mie...@mindspring.com (Rich and
: Nadyne Mielke) wrote:
: >IIRC, my friends
: >and I thought that it was the same folks who did "An American Tail",
: >but that might have been something we just pulled out of our
: >collective ass.
: A) Assuming I am one of the friends you reference, I believe the
: "collective ass" remark about sums it up. Nad: "Maybe it's by the
: same people who did An American Tail." Nosh: "Ah, another terrible
: animated movie with too much singing." Cat: "I liked An American
: Tail." Somebody (probably Nad): "I'm sorry." Nosh: "Then again, she
: likes Disney..."
Yeah, that sounds right. You have a much better memory than I do.
{Of course, you can pretty successfully count cards, whereas I rarely
get beyond 2. ;) }
: B) IIRC... "If I recall"? Just guessing. Last I checked, recall was
: one word... Oh, maybe "If I recall correctly", hm... OK. Never mind.
It's "if I recall correctly". Some computer geek you are, Noshling.
;)
/nad
jed...@aol.com
Jennie Alibasic <dea...@kajen.com> writes:
>*grin* I hate to admitt this, but the LionKing was just wonderful
>IMO..cheesy, yes...but I go for sappy cheesy stuff. Heck, I started
>bawling at the opening titles already. (yah yah, that's the kind'a gal I
>am..heh) I just really really love James Earl Jones rrrrrrrumbeling voice,
>and Jeremy Irons sacrastic voice..YUM!=)
>
>Bah. Just had to say this.;)
>
>Jennie, who's a sucker when at movies.
I liked the Lion King too. In fact my cousin and i watched it over and over and memorized a lot of the good parts. mostly for the jokes, but i like it. Beauty and the Beast was okay, but the older diz movies are better.
Dd
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Aimee Lortskell
AngryBeast (angry...@aol.com) wrote:
: True, they have found the body of the supposedly missing Anastasia, but
: they are still missing a couple other of the sisters. Anna, the woman who
: claimed to be Anastasia, was recovering from amnesia and remembered vivid
: scenes from the Romanov Palace accurately and recalled intimate secrets
: about members of the royal family which turned out to be true. My
: personal theory is that Anna was one of the other sisters, whom they still
: haven't found.
no, you're a bit off. when they originally found the bodies, they were
missing the bodies of anastasia and...and....paul? well, the grand duke,
anyway, the only son. to my knowledge they're still missing the bodies
of those 2 (anyone?), but DNA evidence connected to identifying the
bodies they did find disproved anna anderson's claim to being anastasia.
it's highly unlikely that any escapees got very far, but it does make for
a good story.
Aimee the Magdalene
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Aimee Lortskell
p...@pa.msu.edu wrote:
: Little Earthquake <gs1...@panther.Gsu.EDU> writes:
[snip]
: >It's about the Duchess Anastasia (Of course we know that "Yes Anastasia"
: >is written about this same Duchess).
nitpick: grand duchess. this was the title for princesses in russia and
in some other eastern european countries.
: >Kind of disturbing that Disney would do a movie about her.
: I saw the same preview (well, just parts of it since they were having
: problems with the projector, so I could be wrong about this), but I got the
: impression it was not about the real Anastasia, but about a woman who
: claims to be the missing Anastasia. This is a true story, there really was
: a mystery woman who made this claim. She had intimate knowledge of the
: royal family and some relatives thought she did bear a close resemblance.
: Other relatives declared her a fraud. This was the basis for a 1956 movie
: in which Ingrid Bergman played the title role and won an Oscar. I think
: recently DNA tests showed that she wasn't the real Anastasia. I believe she
: died sometime in the last couple of years. It sure would've been
: interesting if Anastasia had really survived the massacre.
actually, there were several claimants for anastasia and all the
siblings. the woman you're talking about is anna anderson, who became
famous because her claim seemed to be the most valid. in fact, she was
only disproven with DNA evidence quite recently (after her death). most
amusing are the meetings between the imposters, at which they would each
claim the others were imposters. but i have a sick sense of humour.
who knows what this movie is doing, though. chances are it's just
something that was made up around the name of anastasia. i don't think
it has any historical relevance to either the real grand duchess or any
of her imposters. using the name was prolly just a gimmick to sell the
movie.
Aimee the Magdalene
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DanKitti99 (danki...@aol.com) wrote:
i said:
: >> i can't stand disney myself, but where does this probably raped thing
: come in? i guess i'm not familiar with the historical aspect of the
: pocahontas thing (nor did i see the disney film), so can you explain what
: you've based that on? <<
: classic stories, after they change them a LOT. See the ORIGINAL Little
: Mermaid, not the Disney version.
uh...you agree with disney but i shouldn't see the disney version?
what??! perhaps you could rewrite this so it makes sense. :P
anyway, my whole problem with the disney version of the little mermaid is
that they made the character such a ditz.
[snip]
: I dunno if Pocahontas was raped, but I have heard there is no evidence
: that she and John Smith were intimate.
again, i'm not clear on my history, but weren't they married? i'd
consider that reasonable evidence that they were intimate. not 100%
proof, but pretty likely.
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>no, you're a bit off. when they originally found the bodies, they were
>missing the bodies of anastasia and...and....paul? well, the grand duke,
>anyway, the only son. to my knowledge they're still missing the bodies
>of those 2 (anyone?), but DNA evidence connected to identifying the
>bodies they did find disproved anna anderson's claim to being anastasia.
>it's highly unlikely that any escapees got very far, but it does make for
>a good story.
identified as Anastasia and Paul. They had been buried separately,
in part to make identification more difficult. The revolution did
not want the Czar and his family to attain the status of martyrs
among the loyalists, and did not want them to be able to obtain relics
to hold on to. At least, that is the theory.
It *is* a good story, however.
-- Kim
Angela Reid
Aimee Lortskell (ai...@rocket.cc.umr.edu) wrote:
: again, i'm not clear on my history, but weren't they married? i'd
: proof, but pretty likely.
No no no. :) As I posted earlier, she was only 12 years old when she was
supposed to have met John Smith. She married a different white man, John
Rolfe, when she was 17.
Angela
Angela Reid
2132...@msu.edu wrote:
: That's right Aimee. They recently *did* find bodies that have been
: identified as Anastasia and Paul. They had been buried separately,
So, who is this Paul kid? :) I'm pretty sure the son's name was Alexei.
Angela
Aimee Lortskell
Aimee Lortskell (ai...@saucer.cc.umr.edu) wrote:
: no, you're a bit off. when they originally found the bodies, they were
: anyway, the only son.
ah, a few of you knew the right name, alexei. dunno how that could have
slipped my mind. i suspect i was thinking of dune for some reason.
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Kevin D Fox (kd...@hopper.unh.edu) wrote:
: i was under the impession that blood/DNA testing had been done to check for the
: presence of hemophilia
actually, it was used to identify the bodies that were found a few years
ago. i'm not sure if the gene for hemophilia was really relevant to
that, not to mention that said gene wouldn't necessarily be there in a
romanov female. we know it was present in alexandra, but we don't really
know if her daughters were ALL carriers. well, now that they have most
of the bodies, they could check on at least 4 of them.
: (the gene being introduced into the Russian royal family
: via Anastasias mother, who was, if my history serves me correctly, daughter of
: Queen Victoria)
nitpick: grandaughter through alice. what's really horrifying about
victoria's descendants is the inbreeding. victoria and albert were first
cousins, and then a few pairs of their grandchildren married each other
as well. yes, it made for interesting diplomacy, but blech!
[snip]
: As for Alexei . . . he was probably sucked
: into a time warp and brought (not so-) far into the future to when Russia is ruled
: by apes ("Stop callingk eachother 'comrade', you filthy red apes!" . . ."Damn you
: all to hell!")
thank you, i can NOT stop laughing now. :P
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Aimee Lortskell
Angela Reid (abr...@email.unc.edu) wrote:
yeah, i didn't see your other post until today. i knew she married one
of those guys. i think it's pretty sick that someone is intuiting that
she was raped by john smith with absolutely no hint of evidence on the
matter. that's quite an assumption to make.
jed...@aol.com
rnie...@hopper.unh.edu (curiosity's cat) writes:
>Actually, I don't think Disney has made a good film since, oh, say, Robin
>Hood. Why does every film need to have a trippy psychedelic song and
>dance number, anyway? Especially the Be a Pest one. Hmmm, dancing
>silver ware. What -did- they put in Beauty's soup...
This is one of my childhood favs. Watched it so much i broke it :( ......it never did get fixed. maybe i should make a trip to the video store.....
<footsteps><doorslam><tiresqueal>
The Yum Yum Boy
> > *grin* I hate to admitt this, but the LionKing was just wonderful
> > IMO..cheesy, yes...but I go for sappy cheesy stuff. Heck, I started
> > bawling at the opening titles already. (yah yah, that's the kind'a gal I
> > am..heh) I just really really love James Earl Jones rrrrrrrumbeling voice,
> > and Jeremy Irons sacrastic voice..YUM!=)
> > Bah. Just had to say this.;)
> > Jennie, who's a sucker when at movies.
> I liked the Lion King too. In fact my cousin and i watched it over and over and memorized a lot of the good parts. mostly for the jokes, > but i like it. Beauty and the Beast was okay, but the older diz movies are better.
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>"de Beers! A Post-Quoting Greater Line Length Aolasaur! Set the hounds
>after him!"
thats "her" YumYum.
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In article <slrn45fs8qk....@hopper.unh.edu>,
rnie...@hopper.unh.edu (curiosity's cat) wrote:
> Hmmm. Lion King. Didn't watch it, but I have a few bones to pick with
> the scenes I have seen.
> 1) Lions don't have kings. The least stable position in lion society is
> that of the male.
> 2) Lions don't live in the jungle. Neither do meerkats. They both live
> in the savannah. Same continent, comepletely different ecosystem.
> 3) The warthog probably would have eaten the poor baby lion, but we'll
> forgive that because one of Disney's old (good) films, the Fox and the Hound.
>
Uh, fiction?
jay
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Aimee Lortskell
The Yum Yum Boy (toby.d...@ebo.mts.dec.com) wrote:
: "de Beers! A Post-Quoting Greater Line Length Aolasaur! Set the hounds
: after him!"
what exactly is this? i mean, i hate AOL as much as the next
self-righteous .edu poster [1], but you're really just being a jerk
here. it's one thing to try to get people (and it's not just AOL people)
to edit properly, it's quite another to follow up to every single AOL
post with this crap. it's condescending and, dare i say it, RUDE. and
when i of all people am telling you not to be so rude, you know
something's gone horribly wrong. so cut it out. what happened to mr
sensitive? have aliens abducted toby and left a stupid twin to torment
rmta?
[1] anybody catch the simpsons opening this week? <giggle>
Aimee the Magdalene
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The Yum Yum Boy
jed...@aol.com wrote:
> In article <3305D4...@ebo.mts.dec.com>, The Yum Yum Boy <toby.d...@ebo.mts.dec.com> writes:
> > "de Beers! A Post-Quoting Greater Line Length Aolasaur! Set the hounds
> > after him!"
> thats "her" YumYum.
"A female, de Beers! it's a female!"
AldenKeith
You know, not everyone on Aol is that bad. Maybe just the ones who have a
screen name through daddy, and have no true insight, and ask inane
questions, but then, were we all born with all this great Tori knowledge?
(Anyone who says yes get the Big Beat Down(tm) . But then stereotypes are
created because of the general behavior of a person. Heck, if things start
getting real bad, I can just start using my JMU address and save the
embarassment. But, fact is, I like AOL and it's features. Hey it's only 10
bucks a month for me, I can spare it! Besides, it gives me a permanent
e-mail address I can use.
(hope this wasn't to sketchy, I'm mighty tired)
Harbour
Neil Buniao Tejano
In article <19970208070...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, angry...@aol.com (AngryBeast) writes...
>
>
>How very awful. Disney has the knack for taking beloved tales and classic
>stories and turning them into mass marketing projects with annoying music.
> (For example: Hunchback of Notre Dame. Pathetic quasi-human (no pun
>intended) Hugo archetype becomes **cute** to appeal to children. Products
>of every kind ensue. Pocahontas. 13-year old kidnap victim and
>probably-raped-by-John-Smith Native American becomes 18-year old
>miniskirted sexpot. Products of every kind ensue). Sorry if this message
>sounds bitter, but I feel very strongly about Disney movies. I'm sure
>Nicholas, Alexandra, and Anastasia Romanov are rolling in their graves.
I will state again the following, which has been posted already by
several people:
Disney is NOT producing the Anastasia movie which will be released
this summer - that project is being done by 20th Century Fox.
Disney's next big project slated for this summer is Hercules (which
I really think will be retarded, but anyway...).
Neil
The Boy
In article <19970219134...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
alden...@aol.com (AldenKeith) wrote:
> You know, not everyone on Aol is that bad.
This is true and there have been tons of cool people that have posted
via aol.com at one time or another. However, aol itself is not a very
good server. In fact, every aol post I've seen today has been posted two
or three times. (I feel like MTB should add something at this point, or
possibly /nad.) ;) The preponderance of clueless (i.e. start posting
rudely or without any idea of Netiquette) newbies on aol combined with its
general service are not a great package.
Commentingly,
Hyoun, who advocates using your local friendly ISP
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ai...@rocket.cc.umr.edu (Aimee Lortskell) wrote:
: The Yum Yum Boy (toby.d...@ebo.mts.dec.com) wrote:
: : "de Beers! A Post-Quoting Greater Line Length Aolasaur! Set the hounds
: : after him!"
:
: what exactly is this? i mean, i hate AOL as much as the next
: self-righteous .edu poster [1], but you're really just being a jerk
: here. it's one thing to try to get people (and it's not just AOL people)
: to edit properly, it's quite another to follow up to every single AOL
: post with this crap. it's condescending and, dare i say it, RUDE. and
: when i of all people am telling you not to be so rude, you know
: something's gone horribly wrong.
Thanks for saying that, Aimee.
YumYum, while it's one thing to ask someone to learn how to edit,
attribute, etc properly, it's fucking annoying to constanly be
replying with another aolosaur post. When you do that, you're no
better than they are -> you're wasting at least as much bandwidth with
absolute shit that contributes nothing.
If you want to make a point, contact them via private email and ask
that they learn how to reply properly so that we know wtf they're
replying to. Don't just post a one-liner aolosaur post.
/nad
AldenKeith
Kirk Haines
AldenKeith (alden...@aol.com) wrote:
: embarassment. But, fact is, I like AOL and it's features. Hey it's only 10
: bucks a month for me, I can spare it! Besides, it gives me a permanent
unfortunately, one little featurre we're getting now is multiple copies of
any message posted by an AOLer../.at least i am. ARG!!!
Michelle
Flutist
Angela Reid
Kirk Haines (oshc...@dimensional.com) wrote:
Yes, ironically enough, even that one. Five times? But even more
distressing are the AOL posts I -can't read-. :( So {{{higs}}} to
AldenKeith for being readable, if repetitive. :)
Angela
AldenKeith
I'm getting the same thing, and it's not just from AOL. Although, one
problem I've been seeing is that my messages don't appear until a day
later.
Alden
Ken Tough
Neil Buniao Tejano <sho...@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu> writes
>angry...@aol.com (AngryBeast) writes...
>>How very awful. Disney has the knack for taking beloved tales and classic
>>stories and turning them into mass marketing projects with annoying music.
>> (For example: Hunchback of Notre Dame. Pathetic quasi-human (no pun
>>intended) Hugo archetype becomes **cute** to appeal to children. Products
>>of every kind ensue. Pocahontas. 13-year old kidnap victim and
>>probably-raped-by-John-Smith Native American becomes 18-year old
>>miniskirted sexpot. Products of every kind ensue).
>Disney is NOT producing the Anastasia movie which will be released
>this summer - that project is being done by 20th Century Fox.
>Disney's next big project slated for this summer is Hercules (which
>I really think will be retarded, but anyway...).
Though I have heard that Disney is currently working on a remake of
Anna Karenina. (There are a few small changes, of course; in
their version Anna will be a beautiful-poor-but-virtuous princess,
who, after battling with evil revolutionaries elope by train and
live happily ever after on the Caspian Sea.
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curiosity's cat
In article <d24r$LAM9W...@dial.pipex.com>, Ken Tough wrote:
>Neil Buniao Tejano <sho...@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu> writes
>
>>this summer - that project is being done by 20th Century Fox.
>>Disney's next big project slated for this summer is Hercules (which
>>I really think will be retarded, but anyway...).
>
>Though I have heard that Disney is currently working on a remake of
>Anna Karenina. (There are a few small changes, of course; in
>their version Anna will be a beautiful-poor-but-virtuous princess,
>who, after battling with evil revolutionaries elope by train and
>live happily ever after on the Caspian Sea.
>
princess.... battling revolutionaries.....
Yikes. I do hope you are thinking of a diferent story, because when I
read _Anna Karenina_, it was about a woman who had a sordid affair, and
the people in her life. Although I really thought it should have been
called _Constantin Levin_. He was the most interesting character, imho.
Then again, if Disney got their hands on it, well, Loki give me hope.
Ick. I suppose if everybody can love Quasimodo, rather than tearing him
to shreds, Anna Karenina can be a revolutionary-battling princess. Hell,
she'll probably be a gypsy, too, so Disney can have at least one Exotic
Beauty (tm)
Oy vey,
Robyn, who woke up to the smoke detector going off intermittently for no
reason at approximately 5:30. Ugh. And not the first time this has
happened. Me wake up lazy landlord (not sure if in NH it's illegal to
disconect hardwired smoke detectors - it is in Mass), his brilliant
solution is to remove all smoke detectors from the building until
sometime later this weekend when he gets off his ass to replace them. :P
curiosity's cat
>Neil Buniao Tejano <sho...@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu> writes
>
>>Disney is NOT producing the Anastasia movie which will be released
>>this summer - that project is being done by 20th Century Fox.
>>Disney's next big project slated for this summer is Hercules (which
>>I really think will be retarded, but anyway...).
>
*sigh* Am I the only one who is obsessed with these shows? ANybody?
<grin> I have a picture of Xena on the slanting wall/ceiling above my
bed. My fiance got it for me...
sheepish grin, Robyn, who wants to be Xena when (if?) she grows up.
No, on second thought, I'd just like to meet her. :)
Eden
rnie...@hopper.unh.edu (curiosity's cat) wrote:
>Just remember folks, "Kevin Sorbo IS Hercules!" (And Lucy Lawless is Xena)
>*sigh* Am I the only one who is obsessed with these shows? ANybody?
><grin> I have a picture of Xena on the slanting wall/ceiling above my
>bed. My fiance got it for me...
I do have some sort of sick fascination for Xena: Warrior Princess, I
admit, but I'm not obsessed with it. If it's on, I'll watch it. If I
miss it, oh well.
Eden
Ken Tough
curiosity's cat <rnie...@hopper.unh.edu> writes
::Though I have heard that Disney is currently working on a remake of
::Anna Karenina. (There are a few small changes, of course; in
::their version Anna will be a beautiful-poor-but-virtuous princess
::[and handsome prince] who, after battling with evil revolutionaries
::elope by train and live happily ever after on the Caspian Sea.
>Woah there hoss! Are we thinking of the same novel? Anna Karenina...
>princess.... battling revolutionaries.....
>Yikes. I do hope you are thinking of a diferent story, because when I
>read _Anna Karenina_, it was about a woman who had a sordid affair, and
>the people in her life.
Same book (throws herself under a train at the end).
[Bit of satire there, little joe].
>Then again, if Disney got their hands on it, well, Loki give me hope.
>Ick. I suppose if everybody can love Quasimodo, rather than tearing him
>to shreds, Anna Karenina can be a revolutionary-battling princess.
Exactly. Hunchback of Notre Dame -- a story about a beautiful girl
and a handsome man. And some cute comedy side-kick with a funny name.
>Hell, she'll probably be a gypsy, too, so Disney can have at least
>one Exotic Beauty (tm)
Yes, that's a good idea. Another chance for a dark-haired heroinne with
super-model figure, standard 'Covergirl' looks and a healthy tan.
We can always make the prince blond. Exotic costumes, too.
Perhaps Maria Carey's voice.
Justin Hahn
The Boy (hpa...@wellesley.edu) wrote:
: > You know, not everyone on Aol is that bad.
: This is true and there have been tons of cool people that have posted
: via aol.com at one time or another. However, aol itself is not a very
: good server. In fact, every aol post I've seen today has been posted two
: or three times. (I feel like MTB should add something at this point, or
: possibly /nad.) ;) The preponderance of clueless (i.e. start posting
: rudely or without any idea of Netiquette) newbies on aol combined with its
: general service are not a great package.
Well I think I can explain the clueless and rudeness bits. Most of the people
on AOL are brand-spanking newbies (as opposed to me, when I came onto the 'Net
I'd had about 4 years of BBS and Echo/Fidonet experience, so I knew what to
expect) and have heard horror stories about the rudeness and the ways of the
net. Plus they really are about as clueless as you get. So they figure
"Everyone out there is here to help (or hate) me. let's asl EVERYONE my silly
little question." Hence they cross-post to 90 different groups (if they figure
out how). A newbie doesn't RTFM because they 1) don't what RTFM means (Read
the F'ing manual, as I prefer to say...) and 2) don't that the "M" exists.
There are cool people on AOL, because there are some people who know what
they're doing. But AOL was designed for the Win95, do everything for me
because I can't do it by myself, crowd. And thats what you get a lot of
times...
Sorry for the rantish nature here, IMHO is like a sewer, and its always backed
up...
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Angela Reid
Justin Hahn (jeh...@bu.edu) wrote:
: The Boy (hpa...@wellesley.edu) wrote:
: : > You know, not everyone on Aol is that bad.
: : This is true and there have been tons of cool people that have posted
: : via aol.com at one time or another. However, aol itself is not a very
: : good server. In fact, every aol post I've seen today has been posted two
: : or three times. (I feel like MTB should add something at this point, or
: : possibly /nad.) ;) The preponderance of clueless (i.e. start posting
: : rudely or without any idea of Netiquette) newbies on aol combined with its
: : general service are not a great package.
: Well I think I can explain the clueless and rudeness bits. Most of the people
: on AOL are brand-spanking newbies (as opposed to me, when I came onto the 'Net
: I'd had about 4 years of BBS and Echo/Fidonet experience, so I knew what to
: expect) and have heard horror stories about the rudeness and the ways of the
: net. Plus they really are about as clueless as you get. So they figure
: "Everyone out there is here to help (or hate) me. let's asl EVERYONE my silly
: little question." Hence they cross-post to 90 different groups (if they figure
: out how). A newbie doesn't RTFM because they 1) don't what RTFM means (Read
: the F'ing manual, as I prefer to say...) and 2) don't that the "M" exists.
I disagree. I think that there are probably an equal number of clueless
newbies elsewhere. They're more visible on AOL because AOL has a
temendously large population. And now that people are prepared to find
cluelessness among AOLers, they take every instance they find as
confirmation of a pre-formed prejudice. It's easy to overlook those
individuals who did not fulfill the stereotype.
I teach freshman composition at UNC, and each of my students is required
to get an e-mail account. Some of them know what they're doing. Most of
them are, well, clueless newbies. Few people hiss in dismay at the sight
of a UNC poster, however. :) Why? We aren't that visible.
: There are cool people on AOL, because there are some people who know what
: they're doing. But AOL was designed for the Win95, do everything for me
: because I can't do it by myself, crowd. And thats what you get a lot of
: times...
AOL does market the "I can't do it by myself crowd," but they market
everyone. With their saturation advertisement, it's no wonder they grow
beyond their capability to handle the traffic.
Furthermore, people can be cool and still not know what they're doing. :)
Clueless newbies can learn--we were all clueless at one point.
Angela
The Boy
In article <5eo0an$sej$4...@newz.oit.unc.edu>, abr...@email.unc.edu (Angela
Reid) wrote:
> I disagree. I think that there are probably an equal number of clueless
> newbies elsewhere. They're more visible on AOL because AOL has a
> temendously large population.
Um, that's what I meant. Also, when AOL'ers do learn about USENET and
the Internet, a lot of them switch to ISP's or edu accounts for various
reasons. I'm against rude cluelessness in general, regardless of email
address. Yes, I'm a curmudgeon, 40 years before my time. ;)
> Furthermore, people can be cool and still not know what they're doing. :)
> Clueless newbies can learn--we were all clueless at one point.
No! I was never clueless! Urm, um, er, yeah that's the ticket...
As far as I'm concerned, a couple of mistakes are fine. I don't think
I respond vindictively or meanly to any first time posters. It's just the
repeatedly rude people that I do mind. And, as far as I can see, the most
annoying posts/flames come from edu accounts of spoiled 18-year-old
freshmen who think they're really cool. I speak from watching my friends
post freshman year, observation of other posts and, yes, personal
experience (*blush*). Annoying AOL posts tend to be more on the "me too"
or the technically messed level who think that the rest of us are a
technical staff for their needs and questions.
Clarifyingly,
Hyoun
Heather A Philp
Prolly not too long ago, in rec.music.tori-amos, Angela Reid
may have said:
: I teach freshman composition at UNC, and each of my students is required
: to get an e-mail account. Some of them know what they're doing. Most of
: them are, well, clueless newbies. Few people hiss in dismay at the sight
: of a UNC poster, however. :) Why? We aren't that visible.
Oooh, ooh, I do I do I do! ;)
(But, of course not -you-, Angela....)
--heather
from a rival school, of course.
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that abby girl
b...@uclink2.berkeley.edu (Ben Waggoner) wrote:
> --
> I'm baa-aaack. . . .
so how was it? glad to see you back (if not your puns...)
abby.
(stagnant, stagnant, stagnant.)
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Ben Waggoner
Ken Tough (k...@objectech.co.uk) wrote:
: curiosity's cat <rnie...@hopper.unh.edu> writes
: ::Though I have heard that Disney is currently working on a remake of
: ::Anna Karenina. (There are a few small changes, of course; in
: ::their version Anna will be a beautiful-poor-but-virtuous princess
: ::[and handsome prince] who, after battling with evil revolutionaries
: ::elope by train and live happily ever after on the Caspian Sea.
: >Woah there hoss! Are we thinking of the same novel? Anna Karenina...
: >princess.... battling revolutionaries.....
: >Yikes. I do hope you are thinking of a diferent story, because when I
: >read _Anna Karenina_, it was about a woman who had a sordid affair, and
: >the people in her life.
: Same book (throws herself under a train at the end).
I never could understand why Anna Karenina would do something like that.
She really had a loco motive for killing herself.
Heather A Philp
Prolly not too long ago, in rec.music.tori-amos, Ben Waggoner may have said:
: Ken Tough (k...@objectech.co.uk) wrote:
[Anna Karenina]
: : Same book (throws herself under a train at the end).
: She really had a loco motive for killing herself.
Hey, look Ben's back! Yay! I mis---um. Wait. I was just about to
completely ignore the pun up there and tell him I missed him...what -was-
I thinking?
;)
--heather
the loco Ren Faerie, who really did miss Ben.
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In the last episode, we saw sanity assassin say:
> Personally I find it disturbing that Disney makes movies period, Night-
>mare before Christmas, Toy Story and Aladdin exempted. They recycle the same
>damn story over and over and in each movie the heroine gets bigger breasts.
>Don't like Disney, no sir.
Two things:
1) Er, Disney got his START doing films. Shorts at first, then full length.
That they recycle stories is not one damn bit different from what every other
studio in Hollywood does, except that a lot of Disney's are animated rather
than live action.
2) If anyone paid attention to the trailer before Star Wars, they would find
it quite clear that this is not the story of the real Anastasia (except for
bits about her childhood during the revolution), but of the woman who appeared
in the river is Warsaw who told everyone she was Anastasia. This is, in fact,
the woman who died in Charlottesville, Va, a few years ago, still asserting
that she was the real Anastasia. And many still believe she was, despite
recent DNA evidence to the contrary. Anyway, it is pretty obvious that this
movie is more about that woman than the historical Anastasia.
What cracks me up though is that it's supposedly a Russian and Estern European
story, yet the songs are typical Modern American Musical Schlock. Same with
Pocahontas.
And to the person who mentiooend the Hercules movie, that's not Disney --
that's the production company responsible for the Hercules and Xena shows.
Anastasia is a Disney film.
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Ken Tough wrote:
<snip stuff about Anna Karenina>
> : Same book (throws herself under a train at the end).
Then Ben blessed us with:
>
> I never could understand why Anna Karenina would do something like that.
> She really had a loco motive for killing herself.
>
> --
> I'm baa-aaack. . . .
<Mike rummages around frantically>
Cabbages...where are my cabbages?
Mike Zeares
Andrew Onifer
>Two things:
>1) Er, Disney got his START doing films. Shorts at first, then full length.
>That they recycle stories is not one damn bit different from what every other
>studio in Hollywood does, except that a lot of Disney's are animated rather
>than live action.
>
Actually, the animation stuff is about the only difference between
Disney movies and other movies. Disney's no different than any other
movie studio in just about every other aspect.
>2) If anyone paid attention to the trailer before Star Wars, they would find
>it quite clear that this is not the story of the real Anastasia (except for
>bits about her childhood during the revolution), but of the woman who appeared
>in the river is Warsaw who told everyone she was Anastasia.
Yes. I think we should all go see Star Wars again. Just to be sure.
And then maybe one more time, just to make absolutely sure. And,
yaknow, one more time, 'cause better safe than sorry :)
jay
(then we should watch ESB, 'cause we mighta missed something in those
trailers, too :>)
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Angela Reid
Midnight Tree Bandit (mtba...@mindspring.com) wrote:
: And to the person who mentiooend the Hercules movie, that's not Disney --
: that's the production company responsible for the Hercules and Xena shows.
Are you quite sure about that? I saw the Hercules trailer in front of 101
Dalmations just before Christmas, and I know Disney likes to promote
itself.
: Anastasia is a Disney film.
Hmm. I'm almost certain it was 20th Century Fox. Maybe I'll poke about
the web and see if I can find any information.
Angela
Angela Reid
Midnight Tree Bandit (mtba...@mindspring.com) wrote:
: And to the person who mentiooend the Hercules movie, that's not Disney --
: that's the production company responsible for the Hercules and Xena shows.
Actually, Anastasia is 20th Century Fox--at least according to the
trailers Fox is showing before Star Wars. :) Confirmation of this can be
found at rec.arts.animation.
Hercules is Disney--or at least Disney is claiming it. Confirmation of
-this- can be found at http://www.disney.com/DisneyChannel/magazine &
(reportedly) http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hils/1486. I found it at
the former site myself. The latter was referenced at
rec.arts.animation.
Angela
p...@pa.msu.edu
In article <3310256e...@news.mindspring.com>, mtba...@mindspring.com (Midnight Tree Bandit) writes:
>In the last episode, we saw sanity assassin say:
>
>it quite clear that this is not the story of the real Anastasia (except for
>bits about her childhood during the revolution), but of the woman who appeared
>the woman who died in Charlottesville, Va, a few years ago, still asserting
>that she was the real Anastasia. And many still believe she was, despite
>recent DNA evidence to the contrary. Anyway, it is pretty obvious that this
>movie is more about that woman than the historical Anastasia.
>
>And to the person who mentiooend the Hercules movie, that's not Disney --
>that's the production company responsible for the Hercules and Xena shows.
>Anastasia is a Disney film.
>
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>mtba...@mindspring.com
But Disney will have an animated film this summer about Hercules. No
connection with whatever Kevin Sorbo might be doing.
Dan P.
Aimee Lortskell
AldenKeith (alden...@aol.com) wrote:
: I'm getting the same thing, and it's not just from AOL. Although, one
: problem I've been seeing is that my messages don't appear until a day
: later.
what same thing?
Aimee the Magdalene (context, kids, context)
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Kim
>: And to the person who mentiooend the Hercules movie, that's not Disney --
>: that's the production company responsible for the Hercules and Xena shows.
>: Anastasia is a Disney film.
>-this- can be found at http://www.disney.com/DisneyChannel/magazine &
>(reportedly) http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hils/1486. I found it at
>the former site myself. The latter was referenced at
>rec.arts.animation.
movie it would be live action, not animation, and it might actually be
interesting. The live action TV programs are actually pretty good once
you realize that they are being done with tongue very firmly in cheek.
The clips I've seen from the animated are pretty boring.
-- Kim
Midnight Tree Bandit
In the an earlier episode, Kim wrote:
:If the company responsible for doing Hercules/Xena TV shows was doing the
:movie it would be live action, not animation, and it might actually be
:interesting. The live action TV programs are actually pretty good once
:you realize that they are being done with tongue very firmly in cheek.
:The clips I've seen from the animated are pretty boring.
As a matter of fact, there *is* a Hercules/Xena film coming fromt he same
production company (Renaissance), with Kevin Sorbo and Lucy Lawless (be still
my heart) providing voices. From the clips I've seen, the style looks more
like Bakshi than Disney, but I doubt Bakshi is working on this.
Perhaps we're talking aboout two different Herc movies here?
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In article <5ev5kb$g5t$4...@news.cc.umr.edu>, ai...@saucer.cc.umr.edu (Aimee
Lortskell) wrote:
> what same thing?
I didn't think it was, though. Maybe that thing you mentioned? ;)
Smartassedly,
Kim
>As a matter of fact, there *is* a Hercules/Xena film coming fromt he same
>production company (Renaissance), with Kevin Sorbo and Lucy Lawless (be still
>my heart) providing voices. From the clips I've seen, the style looks more
>like Bakshi than Disney, but I doubt Bakshi is working on this.
>Perhaps we're talking aboout two different Herc movies here?
"lets put a marketable song here" mentality. (They keep pre-empting
Hercules here for HOCKEY games. Blech.)
TDJ
2132...@msu.edu (Kim) wrote:
>>As a matter of fact, there *is* a Hercules/Xena film coming fromt he same production company (Renaissance), with Kevin Sorbo and L=
ucy Lawless (be still my heart) providing voices. From the clips I've seen, the style looks more like Bakshi than Disney, but I dou=
bt Bakshi is working on this.
>>Perhaps we're talking aboout two different Herc movies here?
>
>Must be. The one I saw a clip of was just dripping with that Disney
>"lets put a marketable song here" mentality. (They keep pre-empting
>Hercules here for HOCKEY games. Blech.)
There is a Disney Hercules acting as its animation entry for this year.
The Hercules is blond and bland looking, and there's an owl and some
forest creatures, all the usual garbage you expect from Disney.
Still wondering where the necrophilia went in HUNCHBACK,
--TDJ
Aimee Lortskell
curiosity's cat (rnie...@hopper.unh.edu) wrote:
: Woah there hoss! Are we thinking of the same novel? Anna Karenina...
: princess.... battling revolutionaries.....
: Yikes. I do hope you are thinking of a diferent story, because when I
: read _Anna Karenina_, it was about a woman who had a sordid affair, and
no WAY! levin bored me to tears. honestly, i just wanted to smack the
shit out of him sometimes. quit moping and do something, you pud!
: Then again, if Disney got their hands on it, well, Loki give me hope.
: Ick. I suppose if everybody can love Quasimodo, rather than tearing him
: to shreds, Anna Karenina can be a revolutionary-battling princess. Hell,
: she'll probably be a gypsy, too, so Disney can have at least one Exotic
: Beauty (tm)
never fear, it's fox and it's anastasia, not anna karenina. not that fox
is going to be any better than disney about prettifying everything. blech.
Aimee the Magdalene
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The Boy (hpa...@wellesley.edu) wrote:
: In article <5ev5kb$g5t$4...@news.cc.umr.edu>, ai...@saucer.cc.umr.edu (Aimee
: Lortskell) wrote:
: > what same thing?
: I didn't think it was, though. Maybe that thing you mentioned? ;)
what thing did i mention again? i forgot already and no one here knows
how to quote. :P
Aimee the Magdalene
Usually they sprinkle a few drops of water on your head;
in my case they held my head under for 13 fucking years.
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The Boy
In article <5f264b$s7d$2...@news.cc.umr.edu>, ai...@saucer.cc.umr.edu (Aimee
Lortskell) wrote:
> what thing did i mention again? i forgot already and no one here knows
> how to quote. :P
Yeah, but at least I did it maliciously. Not that it's really worth
it, but Keith Alden was talking about how AOL posts were showing up 4
times a piece on his AOL account, too, except that they were taking a day
longer. However, he didn't mention specifically that he was talking about
AOL multiple posts, referring to them as "the same thing" that someone
else mentioned in a previous post. Then, I decided to be a smartass.
Ta-da! End of synopsis.
Informatively,
AldenKeith
The boy wrote:
(a little snip here)
--Not that it's really worth it, but Keith Alden was talking about how AOL
posts were showing up 4 times a piece....
(a little snip there)
Hey! It's Alden Keith, not Keith Alden.(it's ok, you don't know how many
timesI get that...) Keith is my last name...
Alden Harbour Keith
That boy
As I lay dying, AldenKeith (alden...@aol.com) whispered:
: Hey! It's Alden Keith, not Keith Alden.(it's ok, you don't know how many
: timesI get that...) Keith is my last name...
Sorry about that. You do have a damn cool name, though. Can
I borrow it sometime? ;)
Suppliantly,
Hyoun, who is obviously a little sensitive about getting names right.
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>what thing did i mention again? i forgot already and no one here knows
>how to quote. :P
What, no one knows how to quote? Can I quote you on that? Oh wait, I did!
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Aimee Lortskell
The Boy (hpa...@wellesley.edu) wrote:
: Yeah, but at least I did it maliciously. Not that it's really worth
: it, but Keith Alden was talking about how AOL posts were showing up 4
: longer. However, he didn't mention specifically that he was talking about
: AOL multiple posts, referring to them as "the same thing" that someone
: else mentioned in a previous post. Then, I decided to be a smartass.
: Ta-da! End of synopsis.
but...but...why can't people post properly? i don't understand!
Neil Buniao Tejano
>
>And to the person who mentiooend the Hercules movie, that's not Disney --
>that's the production company responsible for the Hercules and Xena shows.
>Anastasia is a Disney film.
No, Anastasia is not a Disney film. It is a film being made by
Fox Animation Studios. If you don't believe me, then check this
website:
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/7691/anast.htm
And, Disney IS making a Hercules film. Check this site for info
on it:
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/7691/hercules.htm
But you are correct about there being a Hercules film being made
by the producers of the Hercules and Xena TV series. In fact,
both Hercules movies are scheduled to be released around the same
time.
Neil
Ben Waggoner
that abby girl (ab...@nwu.edu) wrote:
: b...@uclink2.berkeley.edu (Ben Waggoner) wrote:
: > --
: so how was it? glad to see you back (if not your puns...)
OK, you asked for it: here's a few vignettes. . .
- Pahrump, Nevada is a rapidly expanding bedroom community for Las Vegas,
which means there is almost no reason for any sane person to visit. It's
spraddling over the desert like untreated ringworm, and seems to be
composed largely of mobile homes and double-wide prefabbed houses in
various states of disrepair, in subdivisions with no paved roads but with
plenty of garish signs advertising things like "VALLEY VIEW ESTATES -- Own
your own 2 acre rancherita! Great views!" Yes, until the new Wal-Mart gets
built across Highway 160.
- Unfortunately, the desert that's going to be engulfed by Pahrump is
quite beautiful. There were lizards and scorpions and Joshua trees and
stars and agaves and Indian petroglyphs and cacti -- and at this time of
year, flowers. The desert pillywiggins seem to spend most of their time
hidden, out of the sun, probably living in tiny trailer parks underneath
rocks, smoking Camels and watching soap operas. But in the early spring
they do come out for some air. . . and the cacti bud and bloom, and the
brilliant red flowers of Indian paintbrush slip from under the rocks. . .
- We drove through a tiny settlement, not marked on any map I've ever
seen, called Crystal, Nevada. Contents: one bar, some mobile homes, a
dump, and two brothels: the Cherry Patch Ranch, and Mabel's. Mabel's seems
to have merged with Madame Wong's Bath and Massage Parlor (motto: "Ah-so
sexy!")
We didn't stop for long, so I can't say much about either place.
But I will make a contribution to the long discussions about prostitution
on this newsgroup. I have come to the realization that I am morally
opposed to these places. Sorry, Elusis, but I am unswervingly against any
institution that oppressively, exploitatively, immorally charges $5 for a
goddamn lite beer.
- If you're a connoisseur of giant greasy burgers, the In-N-Out in
Barstow, California is pretty darn good. Two thumbs up.
- We hit a bad stretch of trail one day and almost rolled the Jeep down a
thirty-foot slope, which would probably have killed us both. But we
didn't. We did, however, have to spend the entire day carrying rocks and
boulders to build up the shoulder of the trail, scraping loose dust and
gravel off the trail so we wouldn't slip, and basically grading the road
by hand so that we could get back. If anyone from the Nye County
government ever reads this: you owe us each $25.50 (six hours at minimum
wage) for grading your road.
- The Kingston Range east of Tecopa, California is a great place to find
quartz and amethyst, if you're willing to climb granite mountains to get
to the best spots. Tecopa also boasts natural hot springs -- which have
become very popular among retired RV aficionados. Sinking into a pool of
warm mineral water after days of hiking is a transcendental experience.
The fact that this pool was crowded with naked 75-year-old men talking
about their grandchildren and prostates made it only slightly less
transcendental.
- We did get trilobites and other things. And we came back safely. The
End.
--
Ben
Aimee Lortskell
Ben Waggoner <b...@uclink2.berkeley.edu> wrote:
[snips]
: We didn't stop for long, so I can't say much about either place.
: But I will make a contribution to the long discussions about prostitution
: on this newsgroup. I have come to the realization that I am morally
: opposed to these places. Sorry, Elusis, but I am unswervingly against any
: institution that oppressively, exploitatively, immorally charges $5 for a
: goddamn lite beer.
and i think if you buy a lite beer, you deserve to be swindled. hell,
any beer at all. yick. if you were a REAL marlboro man, you'd be
drinking girly drinks with pink umbrellas. oh, and you'd be a hairdresser.
: - If you're a connoisseur of giant greasy burgers, the In-N-Out in
: Barstow, California is pretty darn good. Two thumbs up.
waitaminute. are you sure it wasn't mabel's that was the greasy spoon
and in-n-out the brothel? i think the desert heat may have confused you.
Ben Waggoner
Aimee Lortskell (ai...@umr.edu) wrote:
: Ben Waggoner <b...@uclink2.berkeley.edu> wrote:
: [snips]
: : We didn't stop for long, so I can't say much about either place.
: : But I will make a contribution to the long discussions about prostitution
: : on this newsgroup. I have come to the realization that I am morally
: : opposed to these places. Sorry, Elusis, but I am unswervingly against any
: : institution that oppressively, exploitatively, immorally charges $5 for a
: : goddamn lite beer.
: and i think if you buy a lite beer, you deserve to be swindled. hell,
: any beer at all. yick. if you were a REAL marlboro man, you'd be
: drinking girly drinks with pink umbrellas. oh, and you'd be a hairdresser.
I didn't actually drink anything at the whorehouse bars -- I only went in
to buy a bumper sticker to give my major professor. Lite "beer" is a plot
by the United Nations to render the people of America helpless against the
U.N. multinational forces in black helicopters that are going to invade
and take over. So is decaffeinated "coffee."
: : - If you're a connoisseur of giant greasy burgers, the In-N-Out in
: : Barstow, California is pretty darn good. Two thumbs up.
: waitaminute. are you sure it wasn't mabel's that was the greasy spoon
: and in-n-out the brothel? i think the desert heat may have confused you.
Hardee har har. In-N-Out is a chain of burger joints concentrated in
southern California. They just make darn good burgers. They were founded
back in the 1950s or so, before the invention of sex.
--
Ben
Anyone want a bumper sticker advertising the Cherry Patch Ranch next time
I head out there, whenever that may be?
Dances With Cars
On 6 Mar 1997 16:14:14 GMT, picc...@ucs.orst.edu (eva piccininni)
wrote:
>Ben Waggoner (b...@uclink2.berkeley.edu) wrote:
>
>> Hardee har har. In-N-Out is a chain of burger joints concentrated in
>> southern California. They just make darn good burgers. They were founded
>> back in the 1950s or so, before the invention of sex.
>
>aah. they're well-known on the west coast for their "in-n-out burger"
>t-shirts. every californian under the age of 15 appears to own one,
>cleverly defaced to read "in-n-out urge".
Bleah. Those young'uns are amazingly clever sometimes aren't they?
Actually I think it's rather funny that a place that serves bible
references with it's drinks would be made fun of in such a way. It
makes me feel all warm inside. :) As ever I remain
-Dances With Cars
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Ben Waggoner
Dances With Cars (d...@banzai-net.com) wrote:
: Actually I think it's rather funny that a place that serves bible
: references with it's drinks would be made fun of in such a way. It
: makes me feel all warm inside. :) As ever I remain
In-N-Out Burger serves Bible references with its drinks? I never noticed
that. . . is this the whole chain, or just one particular outlet?
Actually, they advertise that their menu hasn't changed in 40 years or so
-- they ONLY serve burgers, fries, shakes, and soda -- so I guess Hebrews
13:8 is an appropriate Biblical reference.
--
Ben
Look it up.
Dances With Cars
On 6 Mar 1997 22:01:54 GMT, b...@uclink2.berkeley.edu (Ben Waggoner)
wrote:
>In-N-Out Burger serves Bible references with its drinks? I never noticed
>that. . . is this the whole chain, or just one particular outlet?
It's the whole chain. If you look underneath the cups they serve
their beverages in (as opposed to the cups they serve their burgers in
:P sheesh, I should try sleeping more), they'll have a book, chapter
and verse (i.e. John 3:15) printed on the inside. I'm not sure if
it's always the same verse, because it's been a while since I've been
to an In-N-Out, but they're definitely there. It surprised me the
first time I saw it, but it certainly explains why my Pentecostal
stepmother loved to eat there all the time. <sigh>
Now, this enters into the realm of rumour, but I'd also heard that the
chain owners donate money to Operation Rescue and other such
anti-abortion groups. I should look into this more to find out if
it's actually true - it may very well not be. Even if it isn't true
the Bible verses on the cups were more than enough to make me stop
going to In-N-Out. It's kind of a shame, they have great burgers, and
they do support some pretty decent charities - it just gives me the
willies to drink a shake from a cup that has something from a book
that's caused me so much grief printed on it. :P
Always happy to enlighten! :D As ever I remain
-Dances With Cars (not part of God's well-oiled machine)