Chicago favourites, anyone?
Harry Sudhakar Anchan
How did we overlook this great group?
-- Harry
Glen Grant
Any of their early stuff when they were a more horn oriented group.
25 or 6 to 4, Make Me Smile , Colour my World , Does anybody Really know
What Time it is . Most anything off their first 6 or 7 seven LP's was
great stuff . I didn't like their later stuff , too pop oriented and
sugar coated .
Nigel Jones
>How did we overlook this great group?
>
1 Hard To Say I'm Sorry
2 Baby What A Big Surprise
3 25 Or 6 To 4
4 If You Leave Me Now
5 Saturday In The Park
6 Wishing You Were Here
7 You Are On My Mind
8 Along Comes A Woman
9 If She Would Have Been Faithful
10 Alive Again
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"25 or 6 to 4" is an all-time favorite. "Old Days" is catchy and
listenable. Most of their other songs leave me cold.
Howard
J Lee
I wore out my Transit Authority casette tape, and since my new car
has a cd player, I went looking. Well not one store has it. Im shocked!
And to make things worse, the 20ish clerks in the stores never heard
of Transit Authority.
NYWahoo
>How did we overlook this great group?
>-- Harry
Well, in general, I thought they *were* fairly lame, but they did sing
*some* good songs. For example, 25 or 6 to 4 (what does that MEAN???),
Call on Me, Wishing You Were Here, Make Me Smile...
Karen.
Harry Sudhakar Anchan
My favourites, in order:
#1. Old days
Just You 'N' Me
Saturday in the park
Baby what a big surprise
I've been searchin' so long
I'm a man
Make me smile
Does anybody really know what time it is?
25 or 6 to 4
Wishing you were here
Another rainy day in New York City
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Marc Wielage
In article <19970501150...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
nyw...@aol.com (NYWahoo) wrote:
> Well, in general, I thought they *were* fairly lame, but they did sing
> *some* good songs. For example, 25 or 6 to 4 (what does that MEAN???),
> Call on Me, Wishing You Were Here, Make Me Smile...
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
You missed a discussion of Chicago a few weeks back where this song was
discussed at length. Here's my notes on "25 or 6 to 4", their #4 hit from
late summer of 1970:
"Featuring lead singer Peter Cetera, along with one of the most memorable
wa-wa guitar solos of the 1970s, performed by lead guitarist Terry Kath.
Keyboard player/songwriter Robert Lamm later explained this song was about
the process of songwriting itself, and the ³6 to 4² refers to the time of
the morning he finished the song. Recorded in August of 1969 in New York
and LA, and produced by James William Guercio. This was the second Chicago
song with numbers in the title; the first was "Questions 67 And 68" from
1969 (also re-charted in 1971). Chicago later remade this song in 1986 as
a minor Top 50 hit on the Full Moon label."
For the record, my own favorite Chicago hits include:
"Beginnings" (Columbia 45417)
"Dialogue (Parts 1 and 2)" (Columbia 45717)
"Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?" (Columbia 45264)
"Hard Habit to Break" (Full Moon 29214)
"Lowdown" (Columbia 45370)
"Old Days" (Columbia 10131)
"Questions 67 And 68" (Columbia 45467)
"Saturday in the Park" (Columbia 45657)
"Wishing You Were Here" (Columbia 10049)
and my apologies for one or two 1980s hits that snuck in there.
--MFW
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Martin Sagara
Harry Sudhakar Anchan (anc...@freenet.calgary.ab.ca) wrote:
: How did we overlook this great group?
I really liked some of their lesser known songs like:
Dialogue (Part I and II)
Lowdown
I Just Want To Be Free
Happy Man
and some of their more popular songs:
Make Me Smile
Beginnings
Saturday In The Park
I've Been Searching So Long
Count On Me
Dialogue (Part I and II) is really interesting to listen to
25 years after its 1972 release. The lyric is probably
incomprehensible to anyone under 35 but it really captures a
moment in time.
In case you've forgotten, it goes something like this:
1) Are you optimistic about the way that things are going?
2) No I never ever think of it at all
1) Don't you ever worry when you see what's going on?
2) Well I try to mind my business that is no business at all
etc...
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Marc Wielage
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Curiously, Chicago just managed to get back the rights to all their
recordings to both Columbia and Warner Bros., and are now releasing them
themselves through a new label that I think is called "Chicago Records"
(or something similar).
Since their first album was a multiple-platinum-seller, I have no doubt
it's not that hard to find if you go to a big enough store. However, I
suspect it'd be easier to find on CD rather than cassette.
Dennis P. Friedley
How about -
Questions 67 & 68
(I've Been) Searching
Beginnings
These were great tunes!
Dennis
Nigel Jones <ni...@innotts.co.uk> wrote in article
<336791dc...@news.aladdin.net>...
> On Wed, 30 Apr 1997 10:05:30 -0600, Harry Sudhakar Anchan
> <anc...@freenet.calgary.ab.ca> wrote:
>
> >How did we overlook this great group?
> >
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I'm A Man
I've Been Searchin' So Long
Beginnings
Make Me Smile
Questions 67 & 68
Peace
Taranwand
Wishing You Were Here
I've Been Searching
Take Me Back To Chicago
No Tell Lover
Old Days
Call On Me
I'm Alive
Beginnings
Saturday In the Park
Non-Hit? "Aire" off of Chicago VII and "Hot Streets" off of Hot Streets
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On 16 May 1997 21:10:29 GMT, "Alaskan in Australia" <doug
@logicworld.com.au> wrote:
I've always liked "Lowdown", which never made their greatest
hits records. I never realized it was released on a 45 and reached
#35-- I found a copy of the 45 today at a flea market.
Martin Nathan
Marc Wielage
In article <337f56f...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
MNat...@Worldnet.att.net (Martin Nathan) wrote:
> I've always liked "Lowdown", which never made their greatest
> hits records. I never realized it was released on a 45 and reached
> #35-- I found a copy of the 45 today at a flea market.
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------
Actually, this song is on one of Chicago's greatest hits packages -- their
boxed set. You'll find it on
Group Portrait [boxed set] ~ Columbia/Legacy C4K-47416 (3:34 stereo)
and I agree with you, it's a pretty good song.
Mark Rathwell
: Actually, this song is on one of Chicago's greatest hits packages -- their
: boxed set. You'll find it on
It's also on the Canadian Greatest Hits releases of "Overtime"
and "The Ultimate Collection".
>> Mark <<
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25 or 6 to 4
SCarras
Does anyone really know what time it is?..(great extened intro,if ya ever
have the 1969 album,and any other album versions).
(Love the fast piano part right before the vocal on DARKWTII?
Chris P. Mezzolesta
sca...@aol.com (SCarras) wrote:
>Does anyone really know what time it is?..(great extened intro,if ya ever
>have the 1969 album,and any other album versions).
Nice to see how long this thread has gone on...My favorite part is the
end of the tune, how neatly the chords resolve to the final chord,
nice major 7th, interesting horn voicing (Pankow's trombone on that
major 7th at the BOTTOM of the chord! [not counting his overdubbed
solo] )...Just *feels* right.
I could go on forever about Chicago so I oughta cut it or I'll
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Those first two albums were terrific.
I couldn't get too enthusiastic about whatever came later though.
seem's that this is a general feeling in the NG.
Cheers,
Tommy
Mark Rathwell
: Those first two albums were terrific.
: I couldn't get too enthusiastic about whatever came later though.
: seem's that this is a general feeling in the NG.
Well ... apparently a lot of people got enthusiastic about them.
Chicago did go on to sell more than a hundred million records around the
world.
I personally think a lot of the later stuff is underrated by this
group. Chicago kept trying different things along the way and is one of
the few bands (IMO) that can play multiple styles of music. Their
adaptability is what kept them alive in an industry that generally kills
most hit acts in a year or two.
>> Mark <<
Harry S. Anchan
On 24 May 1997, Mark Rathwell wrote:
*> I personally think a lot of the later stuff is underrated by this
*>group. Chicago kept trying different things along the way and is one of
*>the few bands (IMO) that can play multiple styles of music. Their
*>adaptability is what kept them alive in an industry that generally kills
*>most hit acts in a year or two.
Mark, You mentioned about their later stuff. My top 3 faves come from the
later era.
#1. Old Days
#2. Just You 'N' Me
#3. Saturday In The Park.
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Martin Nathan
>Mark, You mentioned about their later stuff. My top 3 faves come from the
>later era.
>
>#1. Old Days
>#2. Just You 'N' Me
>#3. Saturday In The Park.
>
>-- Harry
>
Harry,
SITP came out in the summer of 1972. Hardly a song from Chicago's
later era.
Martin Nathan
Mark Rathwell
Distribution:
: Mark, You mentioned about their later stuff. My top 3 faves come from the
: later era.
: #1. Old Days
: #2. Just You 'N' Me
: #3. Saturday In The Park.
That's Chicago's "later" era? What do you consider their early
era?
>> Mark <<
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In <3387a3b...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
MNat...@Worldnet.att.net (Martin Nathan) writes:
>>#3. Saturday In The Park.
>SITP came out in the summer of 1972. Hardly a song from Chicago's
>later era.
Which is, in itself, an amazing thing to think about, since the
song was on Chicago V, and I and II were albums, along with the
quad-disc live Chicago IV. Five groundbreaking albums on ten LPs
in under four years. How many bands even make it to five albums
today?
Jim
Scott Andrew Borton
Mark Rathwell <mrat...@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
> I personally think a lot of the later stuff is underrated by this
> group. Chicago kept trying different things along the way and is one of
> the few bands (IMO) that can play multiple styles of music. Their
> adaptability is what kept them alive in an industry that generally kills
> most hit acts in a year or two.
There's little doubt they adapted... but they adapted straight into mushy
schlock. From an industry/financial point of view, Chicago's ability to
change with the times is admirable; but in my humble opinion, they may as
well have called it quits.
--scott
Mark Rathwell
: There's little doubt they adapted... but they adapted straight into mushy
: schlock.
You know, people really ought to give some of the later Chicago
albums a good listen from beginning to end before making such statements.
Many *SINGLES* were ballads but many other tunes on the albums were not.
Peter Cetera also wrote songs that were harder and the other members of
Chicago did not stop writing.
Ian Martínez
In article <5mit6k$p...@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca>, mrat...@uoguelph.ca
(Mark Rathwell) wrote:
> : There's little doubt they adapted... but they adapted straight into mushy
> : schlock.
>
> You know, people really ought to give some of the later Chicago
> albums a good listen from beginning to end before making such statements.
> Many *SINGLES* were ballads but many other tunes on the albums were not.
> Peter Cetera also wrote songs that were harder and the other members of
> Chicago did not stop writing.
Agreed. While I am a big fan of their first eight albums (yes I even like
the Live at Carnegie Hall album unlike several other people), I personally
feel that two of their best albums are 17 and 18.
Ian
cheetles
Martin Nathan wrote:
>
> >Mark, You mentioned about their later stuff. My top 3 faves come from the
> >later era.
> >
> >#1. Old Days
> >#2. Just You 'N' Me
> >
> >
>
> Harry,
> SITP came out in the summer of 1972. Hardly a song from Chicago's
> later era.
>
Took my 8 year old to see them with my husband two summers ago. She
loved them just as much as I did! It was pretty funny too...she was
bouncing all over the place when Beginnings started...she had the crowed
around us howling! Wonder how young Chicago's youngest fan is?
Andy Harman
I'm pretty predictable when it comes to Chicago. If it's early, has
horns, and has Terry Kath doing the vocal, I like it. I don't care
for Cetera's whining vocals at all. Lamm on the vocal is ok, but the
band lost it's soul when Kath blew his brains out. My faves:
1) Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is (especially the full
version with the intro)
2) Make Me Smile
3) Beginnings
4) Saturday In The Park
5) Color My World
6) 25 or 6 to 4
Andy
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1)Questions 67 & 68 <great top-of-the-hour!>
2)Dialogue Pts 1 & 2
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Paul Kirkpatrick
Chicago - great, I knew I wasn't the only one!
My faves are :
1. Dialogue
2. Beginnings
3. Fancy Colours (I'm English - hence the extra 'u'!)
4. Mother/Free/Motorboat to Mars (on Carniegie Hall)
5. Little One
A strange mix, I know but how do you give a top five for a band that has
realeased so much great material?
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Thanks.
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Glen Grant
Just recently saw them on a VH1 special , they still sound pretty good
Robert Lamm still sounds just like he ever did . Missed seeing Danny
Seraphine on drums though . He was truly one of the great drummers of
his era .
Bob Dunn
aha...@one.net (Andy Harman) wrote:
I always liked "Happy Because I'm Going Home" from Chicago 3.
:)
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