But they mentioned a One Hit Wonder to be a single Top 25 Hit!
Seen two Billboard books, one says Top 40, another says Top 25, for a
One Hit Wonder.
What do you believe it to be?
Thanks!
Uni
I'd imagine a one hit wonder to be - a one hit wonder! No other hits.
Not a #26 or even a #40 or even a #100 beyond the first (and only) hit...
> Uni wrote:
>> On the radio they claimed a "Bad Day" song to be the One Hit Wonder
>> song of the decade. Forget male artist's (from Canada) name, but
>> nice song!
>> But they mentioned a One Hit Wonder to be a single Top 25 Hit!
>> Seen two Billboard books, one says Top 40, another says Top 25, for
>> a One Hit Wonder.
Is either of those books the one referred to in the FAQ (quoted
below)?
>> What do you believe it to be?
> I'd imagine a one hit wonder to be - a one hit wonder! No other
> hits. Not a #26 or even a #40 or even a #100 beyond the first (and
> only) hit...
From the FAQ for the 50s and 60s groups (Since this thread is
cross-posted to all three groups I can't just say "this group".):
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9. What is a "one-hit wonder?"
A "one hit wonder" is sort of an enigma around these groups. Some
people have different personal opinions on the subject. "Most" people
agree on the criteria that is found in the book:
"The Billboard book of one-hit wonders". Written by
Wayne Jancik and published in 1990. 420 pages.
In the book there are several examples of his definition of "one hit
wonder". His definition is a record that made it to the "Billboard"
Top 40 and the artist never again had another Top 40 record. The
artist may have charted again or before several times from #41 to #100
but never repeated in the Top 40.
If you are going to start a thread on "one hit wonders" and your
definition of what a "one hit wonder" is different than the above,
please state your definition as to save arguing about the point.
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Ken Whiton
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No arguing, that is one of the ones I read, too. I just want to know
what others read. I believe it to be a single Top 40 Hit.
Thanks.
Uni
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> Ken Whiton
I always thought that was it. One top 40, but no more in the top 40.
Even if it is arbitrary, it works, particularly when you account for
how regionalized charts were. Songs were hits in San Francisco and
Boston (Mr. Moon by the Coachmen) or Chicago (several Cryan Shames
songs) but never heard elsewhere. Songs that made the bottom portion
of the charts could not be guaranteed to be familiar to everyone. I
keep seeing references here to songs I never heard, in spite of being
glued to a radio for much of the 60s. This just means they weren't
played on KOMA or WLS or whatever little stations we listened to
before sundown.
With that said, if an artist crosses over to another chart and has a
hit would they be considered a one hit wonder even though they'd done
exceptionally well on their native chart be it country, R+B, etc???? A
good example would be country singer Jessie Colter who hit #1 country
#4 Hot 100 with I'm Not Lisa in 1975 but NEVER reached the top 40
again although she continued to do well on the country charts...
Thanks, Paul. In my estimation, above position #30, most people have a
tough time recalling those songs, since they received little or no airplay.
Uni
Don't just go by what radio plays - they don't have enough hours in
the day to play a wide range of music. You have to discover the songs
radio doesn't play - that can be a low charting song or something that
never charted at all. It doesn't even have anything to with file
sharing because a lot of the best stuff is on vinyl and will never be
posted.
Mr. M
Today's Stars & Stripes (10 Dec) had an AP article title, "Billboard names
Powter one-hit wonder of the decade". The article includes the following
statement on how Billboard selected the one-hit wonder of the decade: "The
magazine describes one-hit wonders as acts whose second hit did not reach
the top 25; they only included acts from 2000 to 2007, since someone from
last year might just be taking a break."
There you go. Thanks, Bobby!
Uni
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I will not disagree about marketing. Kiss's big hit sounding fine on LP,
but flopped on the charts, until a "live" version was recorded. Same
with The Chambers Brothers (no live version - a remake), same with Peter
Frampton.
Uni
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> Mr. M
Mr. Blunt's song was pretty good - another One Hit Wonder. However,
Rolling Stone Magazine published it was one of the Top 100 worst songs,
but what does Rolling Stone Magazine know about music? I even have (3)
different album CDs with Blunt's fine song. Really enjoyed Powter's
song, too. But his appearance was a bit of a disappointment. Would like
to see a bit better dress - more class.
Uni
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While reading it, I saw that she had a lot of them wrong. For
instance, Rupert Holmes was listed for "Escape." While I see it as a
70s tune, it was still in the Top 10 as 1980 rolled around -- okay --
but when I mentioned he'd had another Top 10 hit with "Him" she said,
"I never heard that." She had Bonnie Tyler for "Total Eclipse of the
Heart" (again, since "It's a Heartache" was a 70s tune it didn't count
in her piece), Falco for "Rock Me Amadeus"...it seemed that 75% of the
list contained acts where I could name a Top 40 followup off the top
of my head. Not only that, but "We Are the World" was on the list
because the group USA for Africa -- made up of stars who'd amassed
hundreds of hits -- never charted again!
I suggested some angles she could use...like the fact Kajagoogoo and
their lead singer Limahl both were one-hit wonders, that perhaps she'd
explain her method of determining what constituted a "one-hit wonder"
in the piece, and even offered to lend her one of my Whitburn Top 40
books to help. Though I left the book on my desk for her, she didn't
pick it up.
A few days later, I stopped over to the newspaper's office (it was on
the same floor as the radio station) and saw her submitted
article...and she'd turned in the exact same article I'd looked over,
without changes. So, the Whitburn book went over to the editor's desk
for him to check the facts and the article didn't get printed.
So, for a definition of "one-hit" wonder, I'd say that any hit single
where the artist never had a followup Top 40 single would qualify.
Furthermore, a solo member of a successful group wouldn't count (which
would disqualify Frida -- who was on my friend's list -- because she
was a member of ABBA). I would also disqualify any song from the past
5 years because there's still a slight chance they could get a second
hit (Billy Ocean had a hit in 1976 but ended up scoring some pretty
big hits beginning in '84).
Hey, Dana...any other methods (email, post to the Web, etc.) for those
of us not on AIM? I installed it to my laptop a few years back and it
caused so many problems I'm not going back there again. I posted to
the 1970s group the other day asking if anybody had a copy and would
appreciate it.
I have two spreadsheets from the Whitburn Project, specifically
"Whitburn SAAS" and "Billboard Pop ME 1890 to 2008".
I'll happily sent them to you Chris, if you want. They are both in zip
files and are ultimately .xls (excel) files. To be honest I've never
really taken much notice of either (I was sent them both a couple of
years ago but I've never been after getting the music in the contents of
the files) but they are very comprehensive listings of the project.
If you want either or both sent just send me an email and I'll send them
both by return.
Rob
>what exactly is the whitburn project? I've seen it on other groups but
>I dont know what it is.
It's a project that started several years ago on the internet, or
possibly even before the internet - the goal is to get every song that
has ever been listed in the Whitburn Pop Annual book. It's been
basically been done, but I'm always amazed how anybody managed to
acquire every single song - several collectors from over the years
pooled their collections together, and the last few years lots of
contributors have come and gone posting songs to the collection. A
lot of the files are considered not up to the standards that are
desired, and are not considered official parts of the collection, and
there is much duplication, and weeding out of bad files. Also, there
is a matter of what is considered the correct version of a song. This
requires comparing file of the song to an original copy of the 45 rpm,
which can be pricey even in bad shape. it also requires a scan of the
45 - there are several people in the group who essentially run things
and keep order - anybody can post anything, but if the guys in charge
aren't happy with whats posted it wont become an offical listing in
the Whitburn spreadsheet, and they won't put the file into their own
collection. I post a lot of 45s and scans, but even I don't get into
the project as deeply as some of them do. I don't care that much
about the spreadsheet, I am mostly happy to have a listenable file of
.every song. This is a project that will never be completed, and the
number of contributors has dwindled considerably in the last couple of
years - I think at least a couple of people had nervous breakdowns.
Mr. M
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Email sent Chris, did you receive it?
I did, thanks!
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, Moonpie wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 22:13:35 -0500, Dana <da...@panix.com> wrote:
>