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My Personal Favorite Songs Chart - Oct. 30, 1968

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Taliesyn

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44 years ago today, on October 30th, 1968, these were my Top
10 songs on that date, as published in The Delta Optimist
Newspaper, in Delta, BC. The newspaper is still published.

SOUND 10 • October 30, 1968 • Edition 153
TW LW
1. White Room* ..... [8th week #1] .............. Cream 1
2. Smell Of Incense .................. Southwest F.O.B. 3
3. Shape Of Things To Come ... Max Frost & The Troopers 2
4. In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida .................. Iron Butterfly 4
5. All Along The Watchtower ... Jimi Hendrix Experience x
6. Come On, React! .......................... Fireballs x
7. Quick Joey Small .. Kasenetz-Katz Sing. Orch. Circus 5
8. Ice In The Sun .......................... Status Quo x
9. Magic Carpet Ride ...................... Steppenwolf x
10. That's All I Really Need ......... Springfield Rifle —

*(Note) Canadian single release for Cream's "White Room" on
the Polydor Records label was the full-length 4:56 while
the U.S. release on Atco Records was butchered - sorry,
edited - down to 3:04. Yet another case of US labels short-
changing American record buyers.

Songs with an "x" in the last week position denote that they
were absent on the previous week's chart (Oct. 23rd) which
featured only 5 songs due to an extended article. They were,
however, listed on the Oct. 16th chart.

The Bloomfield Bloviator

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On Oct 30, 8:56 pm, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
> 44 years ago today, on October 30th, 1968, these were my Top
> 10 songs on that date, as published in The Delta Optimist
> Newspaper, in Delta, BC. The newspaper is still published.
>
>     SOUND 10      October 30, 1968        Edition 153
> TW                                                       LW
>  1. White Room* ..... [8th week #1] .............. Cream  1
>  2. Smell Of Incense .................. Southwest F.O.B.  3
>  3. Shape Of Things To Come ... Max Frost & The Troopers  2
>  4. In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida .................. Iron Butterfly  4
>  5. All Along The Watchtower ... Jimi Hendrix Experience  x
>  6. Come On, React! .......................... Fireballs  x
>  7. Quick Joey Small .. Kasenetz-Katz Sing. Orch. Circus  5
>  8. Ice In The Sun .......................... Status Quo  x
>  9. Magic Carpet Ride ...................... Steppenwolf  x
> 10. That's All I Really Need ......... Springfield Rifle

This was around the time that I first really got interested in music.
I'm gonna attempt to put together what would be my top ten at that
time. For sure, your #9 would be on my list. I don't think I knew any
of the others there at that time. Let me do a little research.....

It's tough. I think it would be a lot easier in another 5-6 weeks or
so. Here's my best guess.....

1. Midnight Confessions - The Grass Roots (Dunhill)
2. Magic Carpet Ride - Steppenwolf (Dunhill)
3. Chewy Chewy - The Ohio Express (Buddah)
4. Those Were the Days - Mary Hopkin (Apple)
5. Love Child - Diana Ross & the Supremes (Motown)
6. 1, 2, 3, Red Light - The 1910 Fruitgum Co. (Buddah)
7. Hey Jude - The Beatles (Apple)
8. Hello, I Love You - The Doors (Elektra)
9. Stormy - Classics IV featuring Dennis Yost (Imperial)
10. Goody Goody Gumdrops - The 1910 Fruitgum Co. (Buddah)

I remember "Midnight Confessions" being my favorite record around that
time. For sure I knew all the songs in the top 8 at that time.
"Stormy" was brand new on WABC and I may not have noticed it for
another week or two. "Goody Goody Gumdrops" was being played on WMCA
by then but probably not on WABC for another 2-3 weeks, so I probably
did not know it until then. "Hello I Love You" would be out and "Cloud
Nine" would likely be the next new entry in a week or two. "Hey Jude"
would then drop out and likely "Worst That Could Happen" would enter.





The Bloomfield Bloviator

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Oct 30, 2012, 11:15:42 PM10/30/12
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I;m gonna reconstruct whta my top ten might have looked like for the
rest of 1968.

The following week would be Nov 7.

1. Midnight Confessions - The Grass Roots (Dunhill)
2. Magic Carpet Ride - Steppenwolf (Dunhill)
3. Chewy Chewy - The Ohio Express (Buddah)
4. Love Child - Diana Ross & the Supremes (Motown)
5. 1, 2, 3, Red Light - The 1910 Fruitgum Co. (Buddah)
6. Cloud Nine - The Temptations (Gordy)
7. Those Were the Days - Mary Hopkin (Apple)
8. Stormy - Classics IV featuring Dennis Yost (Imperial)
9. Hey Jude - The Beatles (Apple)
10. Goody Goody Gumdrops - The 1910 Fruitgum Co. (Buddah)

NOV 14
1. Midnight Confessions - The Grass Roots (Dunhill)
2. Magic Carpet Ride - Steppenwolf (Dunhill)
3. Chewy Chewy - The Ohio Express (Buddah)
4. Love Child - Diana Ross & the Supremes (Motown)
5. Cloud Nine - The Temptations (Gordy)
6. 1, 2, 3, Red Light - The 1910 Fruitgum Co. (Buddah)
7. Stormy - Classics IV featuring Dennis Yost (Imperial)
8. Goody Goody Gumdrops - The 1910 Fruitgum Co. (Buddah)
9. Worst That Could Happen - The Brooklyn Bridge (Buddah)
10. Those Were the Days - Mary Hopkin (Apple)

NOV 21
1. Midnight Confessions - The Grass Roots (Dunhill)
2. Chewy Chewy - The Ohio Express (Buddah)
3. Magic Carpet Ride - Steppenwolf (Dunhill)
4. Cloud Nine - The Temptations (Gordy)
5. Love Child - Diana Ross & the Supremes (Motown)
6. Worst That Could Happen - The Brooklyn Bridge (Buddah)
7. Stormy - Classics IV featuring Dennis Yost (Imperial)
8. I Heard It Through the Grapevine - Marvin Gaye (Tamla)
9. Goody Goody Gumdrops - The 1910 Fruitgum Co. (Buddah)
10. Both Sides Now - Judy Collins (Elektra)


NOV 28
1. Midnight Confessions - The Grass Roots (Dunhill)
2. Cloud Nine - The Temptations (Gordy)
3. Chewy Chewy - The Ohio Express (Buddah)
4. Magic Carpet Ride - Steppenwolf (Dunhill)
6. Worst That Could Happen - The Brooklyn Bridge (Buddah)
6. Love Child - Diana Ross & the Supremes (Motown)
7. Stormy - Classics IV featuring Dennis Yost (Imperial)
8. I Heard It Through the Grapevine - Marvin Gaye (Tamla)
9. I'm Gonna Make You Love Me -
Diana Ross & the Supremes & the Temptations (Motown)
10. Both Sides Now - Judy Collins (Elektra)


DEC 5
1. Cloud Nine - The Temptations (Gordy)
2. Midnight Confessions - The Grass Roots (Dunhill)
3. Worst That Could Happen - The Brooklyn Bridge (Buddah)
4. Chewy Chewy - The Ohio Express (Buddah)
5. I'm Gonna Make You Love Me -
Diana Ross & the Supremes & the Temptations (Motown)
6. Hooked On a Feeling - B.J. Thomas (Scepter)
7. Magic Carpet Ride - Steppenwolf (Dunhill)
8. Touch Me - The Doors (Elektra)
9. Love Child - Diana Ross & the Supremes (Motown)
10. Soulful Strut - Young-Holt Unlimited (Brunswick)


DEC 12
1. Cloud Nine - The Temptations (Gordy)
2. Worst That Could Happen - The Brooklyn Bridge (Buddah)
3. Hooked On a Feeling - B.J. Thomas (Scepter)
4. I'm Gonna Make You Love Me -
Diana Ross & the Supremes & the Temptations (Motown)
5. Chewy Chewy - The Ohio Express (Buddah)
6. Touch Me - The Doors (Elektra)
7. Magic Carpet Ride - Steppenwolf (Dunhill)
8. Midnight Confessions - The Grass Roots (Dunhill)
9. Love Child - Diana Ross & the Supremes (Motown)
10. Soulful Strut - Young-Holt Unlimited (Brunswick)


DEC 19
1. Hooked On a Feeling - B.J. Thomas (Scepter)
2. Worst That Could Happen - The Brooklyn Bridge (Buddah)
3. Cloud Nine - The Temptations (Gordy)
4. I'm Gonna Make You Love Me -
Diana Ross & the Supremes & the Temptations (Motown)
5. Touch Me - The Doors (Elektra)
6. Chewy Chewy - The Ohio Express (Buddah)
7. Magic Carpet Ride - Steppenwolf (Dunhill)
8. Midnight Confessions - The Grass Roots (Dunhill)
9. Love Child - Diana Ross & the Supremes (Motown)
10. Cinnamon - Derek (Bang)


DEC 26
1. I'm Gonna Make You Love Me -
Diana Ross & the Supremes & the Temptations (Motown)
2. Hooked On a Feeling - B.J. Thomas (Scepter)
3. Worst That Could Happen - The Brooklyn Bridge (Buddah)
4. Touch Me - The Doors (Elektra)
5. Cloud Nine - The Temptations (Gordy)
6. Everyday People - Sly & the Family Stone (Epic)
7. Crimson and Clover - Tommy James & the Shondells (Roulette)
8. Chewy Chewy - The Ohio Express (Buddah)
9. Magic Carpet Ride - Steppenwolf (Dunhill)
10. Love Child - Diana Ross & the Supremes (Motown)


Taliesyn

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The Bloomfield Bloviator <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in news:bc2c5780-916c-
4537-b0aa-9...@y8g2000yqy.googlegroups.com:

> On Oct 30, 8:56 pm, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> 44 years ago today, on October 30th, 1968, these were my Top
>> 10 songs on that date, as published in The Delta Optimist
>> Newspaper, in Delta, BC. The newspaper is still published.
>>
>>     SOUND 10      October 30, 1968        Edition 153
>> TW                                  
>                     LW
>>  1. White Room* ..... [8th week #1] .............. Cream  1
>>  2. Smell Of Incense .................. Southwest F.O.B.  3
>>  3. Shape Of Things To Come ... Max Frost & The Troopers  2
>>  4. In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida .................. Iron Butterfly  4
>>  5. All Along The Watchtower ... Jimi Hendrix Experience  x
>>  6. Come On, React! .......................... Fireballs  x
>>  7. Quick Joey Small .. Kasenetz-Katz Sing. Orch. Circus  5
>>  8. Ice In The Sun .......................... Status Quo  x
>>  9. Magic Carpet Ride ...................... Steppenwolf  x
>> 10. That's All I Really Need ......... Springfield Rifle
>
> This was around the time that I first really got interested in music.
> I'm gonna attempt to put together what would be my top ten at that
> time. For sure, your #9 would be on my list. I don't think I knew any
> of the others there at that time. Let me do a little research.....
>
> It's tough. I think it would be a lot easier in another 5-6 weeks or
> so. Here's my best guess.....
>
> 1. Midnight Confessions - The Grass Roots (Dunhill)

Charted 1 week only for me, on September 4th, #7.

> 2. Magic Carpet Ride - Steppenwolf (Dunhill)

First charted Oct. 9, peaking #3. Last charted Oct. 30th.

> 3. Chewy Chewy - The Ohio Express (Buddah)

Failed to chart.

> 4. Those Were the Days - Mary Hopkin (Apple)

First charted Sept. 25th, eventually tied for #1 with "White Room" on
Oct. 2nd.

> 5. Love Child - Diana Ross & the Supremes (Motown)

First charted Nov. 6, peaking #5.

> 6. 1, 2, 3, Red Light - The 1910 Fruitgum Co. (Buddah)

First charted July 24th, peaking #7

> 7. Hey Jude - The Beatles (Apple)

First charted Aug. 28th, peaking #1

> 8. Hello, I Love You - The Doors (Elektra)

First charted June 19th, peaking #1

> 9. Stormy - Classics IV featuring Dennis Yost (Imperial)

First charted (quite late) Dec. 11th, peaking #8

> 10. Goody Goody Gumdrops - The 1910 Fruitgum Co. (Buddah)

Failed to chart.

Taliesyn

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The Bloomfield Bloviator <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in news:b50cc1a5-5a52-
48aa-b164-4...@r6g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:

> I;m gonna reconstruct whta my top ten might have looked like for the
> rest of 1968.
>
>
>
> DEC 12
> 1. Cloud Nine - The Temptations (Gordy)
> 2. Worst That Could Happen - The Brooklyn Bridge (Buddah)
> 3. Hooked On a Feeling - B.J. Thomas (Scepter)
> 4. I'm Gonna Make You Love Me -
> Diana Ross & the Supremes & the Temptations (Motown)
> 5. Chewy Chewy - The Ohio Express (Buddah)
> 6. Touch Me - The Doors (Elektra)
> 7. Magic Carpet Ride - Steppenwolf (Dunhill)
> 8. Midnight Confessions - The Grass Roots (Dunhill)
> 9. Love Child - Diana Ross & the Supremes (Motown)
> 10. Soulful Strut - Young-Holt Unlimited (Brunswick)
>
>

To see how accurate reconstructions are I pieced together a future
chart around the date of your above future chart. In my case it would
have been a chart for Dec. 11th, 1968.

I had the advantage of having seen and worked with my personal charts
for years. So I kind of know how high each song would have approximately
charted, but not exactly when. So after studyinglocal Top 40 charts for
CKLG in Vancouver, and KOL and KJR charts out of Seattle, I came up with
a guesstimated Top 10 for Dec. 11th. Well, I managed to get 7 songs that
were on the real chart (below), leaving out three - and the positions
were not very close. I didn't keep a record of the reconstruction.

My REAL chart for your above date, DEC. 12, 1968 went this way.

    SOUND 10      December 11, 1968        Edition 159
TW                                                     LW
 1. Reach Out ............................ Merrilee Rush  8
 2. Crimson And Clover ..... Tommy James & The Shondells  -
 3. The Dance At St. Francis ................. Barracuda  3
 4. I Put A Spell On You .. Creedence Clearwater Revival  1
 5. Do Something To Me ..... Tommy James & The Shondells 5
 6. Shake ............................ Shadows of Knight  2
 7. White Room ................................... Cream  4
 8. Stormy ................................. Classics IV  -
 9. That's All I Really Need ......... Springfield Rifle  x
10. I'm A Fool ................ Peanut Butter Conspiracy 9

X denotes return to chart.

Barracuda, from above chart, was a NY-based artist.

It's interesting to note that we would probably have failed to
agree on EVEN ONE mutual song!

The Bloomfield Bloviator

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CONTINUING....

JAN 2, 1969.
1. Everyday People - Sly & the Family Stone (Epic)
2. Crimson and Clover - Tommy James & the Shondells (Roulette)
3. I'm Gonna Make You Love Me -
Diana Ross & the Supremes & the Temptations (Motown)
4. Touch Me - The Doors (Elektra)
5. Worst That Could Happen - The Brooklyn Bridge (Buddah)
6. Hooked On a Feeling - B.J. Thomas (Scepter)
7. Cloud Nine - The Temptations (Gordy)
8 - Build Me Up Buttercup - The Foundations (Uni)
9. I Started A Joke - Bee Gees (Atco)
10. Chewy Chewy - The Ohio Express (Buddah)


JAN 9, 1969
1. Crimson and Clover - Tommy James & the Shondells (Roulette)
2. Everyday People - Sly & the Family Stone (Epic)
3. Build Me Up Buttercup - The Foundations (Uni)
4. Touch Me - The Doors (Elektra)
5. I'm Gonna Make You Love Me -
Diana Ross & the Supremes & the Temptations (Motown)
6. Worst That Could Happen - The Brooklyn Bridge (Buddah)
7. Hooked On a Feeling - B.J. Thomas (Scepter)
8. You Showed Me - Turtles (White Whale)
9. I'm Livin' In Shame - Diana Ross & The Supremes (Motown)
10. Cloud Nine - The Temptations (Gordy)


JAN 16, 1969
1. Crimson and Clover - Tommy James & the Shondells (Roulette)
2. Everyday People - Sly & the Family Stone (Epic)
3. Build Me Up Buttercup - The Foundations (Uni)
4. Touch Me - The Doors (Elektra)
5. I'm Gonna Make You Love Me -
Diana Ross & the Supremes & the Temptations (Motown)
6. Worst That Could Happen - The Brooklyn Bridge (Buddah)
7. Hooked On a Feeling - B.J. Thomas (Scepter)
8. This Magic Moment - Jay & the Americans (United Artists)
9. You Showed Me - Turtles (White Whale)
10. I'm Livin' In Shame - Diana Ross & The Supremes (Motown)


JAN 23, 1969
1. Crimson and Clover - Tommy James & the Shondells (Roulette)
2. Build Me Up Buttercup - The Foundations (Uni)
3. Everyday People - Sly & the Family Stone (Epic)
4. Touch Me - The Doors (Elektra)
5. This Magic Moment - Jay & the Americans (United Artists)
6. Proud Mary - Creedence Clearwater Revival (Fantasy)
7. I'm Gonna Make You Love Me -
Diana Ross & the Supremes & the Temptations (Motown)
8. Worst That Could Happen - The Brooklyn Bridge (Buddah)
9. Hooked On a Feeling - B.J. Thomas (Scepter)
10. You Showed Me - Turtles (White Whale)


JAN 30, 1969
1. Proud Mary - Creedence Clearwater Revival (Fantasy)
2. Build Me Up Buttercup - The Foundations (Uni)
3. Crimson and Clover - Tommy James & the Shondells (Roulette)
4. This Magic Moment - Jay & the Americans (United Artists)
5. Everyday People - Sly & the Family Stone (Epic)
6. Touch Me - The Doors (Elektra)
7. Traces - Classics IV featuring Dennis Yost (Imperial)
8. May I - Bill Deal & the Rhondels (Heritage)
9. You Showed Me - The Turtles (White Whale)
10. Buzz Saw - Turtles (White Whale)

Jeff

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On Oct 30, 7:56 pm, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
> 44 years ago today, on October 30th, 1968, these were my Top
> 10 songs on that date, as published in The Delta Optimist
> Newspaper, in Delta, BC. The newspaper is still published.
>
>     SOUND 10      October 30, 1968        Edition 153
> TW                                                       LW
>  1. White Room* ..... [8th week #1] .............. Cream  1
>  2. Smell Of Incense .................. Southwest F.O.B.  3
>  3. Shape Of Things To Come ... Max Frost & The Troopers  2
>  4. In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida .................. Iron Butterfly  4
>  5. All Along The Watchtower ... Jimi Hendrix Experience  x
>  6. Come On, React! .......................... Fireballs  x
>  7. Quick Joey Small .. Kasenetz-Katz Sing. Orch. Circus  5
>  8. Ice In The Sun .......................... Status Quo  x
>  9. Magic Carpet Ride ...................... Steppenwolf  x
> 10. That's All I Really Need ......... Springfield Rifle

I knew a friend of a friend who played Magic Carpet Ride
24/7, as if it were the only album or song that was ever
released. The funny part was that I never cared for the
song or album back then cause it sounded so heavy.
Part of the reason for that is because he only had a
very small stereo with an alarm clock included, with
the music only coming out of one stereo speaker, (he
didn't know any better) with the music blasting with all
that distortion. I didn't care "Born To Be Wild" either.
Today, these songs don't sound that heavy at all
compared to back then, not that I can get into them
that much today either.


Taliesyn

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The Bloomfield Bloviator <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in news:63f97d01-35f4-
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> CONTINUING....
>
> JAN 23, 1969
> 1. Crimson and Clover - Tommy James & the Shondells (Roulette)
> 2. Build Me Up Buttercup - The Foundations (Uni)
> 3. Everyday People - Sly & the Family Stone (Epic)
> 4. Touch Me - The Doors (Elektra)
> 5. This Magic Moment - Jay & the Americans (United Artists)
> 6. Proud Mary - Creedence Clearwater Revival (Fantasy)
> 7. I'm Gonna Make You Love Me -
> Diana Ross & the Supremes & the Temptations (Motown)
> 8. Worst That Could Happen - The Brooklyn Bridge (Buddah)
> 9. Hooked On a Feeling - B.J. Thomas (Scepter)
> 10. You Showed Me - Turtles (White Whale)
>

Jan. 22 was the very last Sound 10 chart published (comparing...)

SOUND 10 • January 22, 1969 • Edition 164
TW LW
1. Proud Mary [2nd Week #1] ... Creedence Clearwater Revival 1
2. Time Of The Season .............................. Zombies 2
3. Eloise ....................................... Barry Ryan 4
4. Reach Out [was 6 weeks #1]................. Merrilee Rush 1
5. Crossroads ........................................ Cream -
6. This Magic Moment ................... Jay & The Americans -
7. Crimson And Clover .......... Tommy James & The Shondells 5
8. I Started A Joke ............................... Bee Gees 3
9. I'm In Love With You ......... Kasenetz-Katz Super Circus 8
10. Rainbow Ride ................................... Andy Kim 6


Taliesyn

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Jeff <yourimag...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:7d7f8f22-504a-4088-bd2c-
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They were both considered heavy for Top 40 AM radio. Back
then I liked both songs about equally when looking at my old
charts. Today I MUCH prefer "Magic Carpet Ride" over "Born
To Be Wild", which I find rather irritating. Either I must be
getting old or my tastes are leaning more to melodic these days,
which I think is the case.



The Bloomfield Bloviator

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On Oct 31, 1:14 pm, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in news:b50cc1a5-5a52-
> 48aa-b164-484ba1a60...@r6g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
Only because I had not yet heard "Crimson And Clover."



The Bloomfield Bloviator

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On Oct 31, 2:50 pm, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in news:63f97d01-35f4-
> 41e9-ac45-62026f745...@r5g2000yqo.googlegroups.com:
As a high school guy you were gonna be hipper on new stuff than I was
as an 11 year old. "Proud Mary" goes to #1 for me quickly though too.
I did see "Time Of The Season" listed as an extra on WMCA, but trying
to be honest here, I did not hear it this early.



The Bloomfield Bloviator

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As I was researching, this was surprising.....

WMCA Music Report for January 8, 1969

Five More Heavies:
2. Witchi Tai To - Everything Is Everything (Vanguard Apostolic)

This was likely released already in 1968 if it was listed on a Jan 8
WMCA survey. Everywhere I look has the single and the album as a 1969
release.

Tali, do you show this on any survey anywhere already in 1968?



Taliesyn

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The Bloomfield Bloviator <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in
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Hipper on new stuff, perhaps. But you also have to consider the added
factor of us being in markets on opposite sides of the continent. New
records weren't always airplayed at the same time. Even though I was
in Canada, my main music source in 1968 was the U.S. - Seattle's KOL &
KJR.

The thing with "Time Of The Season"... You can't accurately go by when
it first charts on a radio station chart to know when you began hearing
it. For example, the song first debuted for me on my January 8th chart.
However, its first appearance on "local" radio charts was Jan. 17th, KOL
(Hitbound); Jan. 24th, KJR (#45); and Feb. 7th, CKLG Vancouver (#30).
So you can see that it was already radio played in my area way before it
ever charted as a hitbound or an actual listing.

Taliesyn

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The Bloomfield Bloviator <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in news:0c805c8c-256d-
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Yes it does! . . . I have a transcribed WKNR Detroit chart and it debuts
there at #31 on December 19th, 1968.

You can see this chart for yourself at Solanas website:

http://www.las-solanas.com/arsa/surveys_item.php?svid=5487

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On Oct 31, 4:26 pm, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in news:0c805c8c-256d-
> 48f3-882b-f4a73299b...@j18g2000yqf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > As I was researching, this was surprising.....
>
> > WMCA Music Report for January 8, 1969
>
> > Five More Heavies:
> >  2. Witchi Tai To - Everything Is Everything (Vanguard Apostolic)
>
> > This was likely released already in 1968 if it was listed on a Jan 8
> > WMCA survey. Everywhere I look has the single and the album as a 1969
> > release.
>
> > Tali, do you show this on any survey anywhere already in 1968?
>
> Yes it does! . . . I have a transcribed WKNR Detroit chart and it debuts
> there at #31 on December 19th, 1968.
>
> You can see this chart for yourself at Solanas website:
>
> http://www.las-solanas.com/arsa/surveys_item.php?svid=5487

Thanks. That certainly clinches it. I will change the date in my
library and move it from my 1969 list to my 1968 list.

rwalker

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On 31 Oct 2012 16:41:50 GMT, Taliesyn <tali...@netscape.net> wrote:

>> 3. Chewy Chewy - The Ohio Express (Buddah)
>
>Failed to chart.


Kind of surprises me. That thing was so driven into my skull that it
still haunts me in my nightmares.

Taliesyn

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rwalker <rwa...@despammed.com> wrote in
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Well, it apparently wasn't driven into my skull because I tended to
immediately switch to any of 5 radio stations I could tune to at
a moment's notice if something "irritating" came up. :)


The Bloomfield Bloviator

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On Oct 31, 6:24 pm, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
> rwalker <rwal...@despammed.com> wrote innews:bl33981o4o50drvch...@4ax.com:
>
> > On 31 Oct 2012 16:41:50 GMT, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> >>> 3. Chewy Chewy - The Ohio Express (Buddah)
>
> >>Failed to chart.
>
> > Kind of surprises me.  That thing was so driven into my skull that it
> > still haunts me in my nightmares.
>
> Well, it apparently wasn't driven into my skull because I tended to
> immediately switch to any of 5 radio stations I could tune to at
> a moment's notice if something "irritating" came up. :)

At that time I think I only knew WABC. Not sure when I realized that
there was another station in NYC that played Top 40 (WMCA). Probably
some time in the spring of 1969 I would guess. Then later in 1969 or
some time in 1970 I picked up on WOR-FM and then a local NJ station
(WWDJ) that was around for a while. I remember clearly when WWDJ
debuted the new Osmonds single (Hold Her Tight), I guess in June of
1972. They made a real big deal about having it before anybody else,
and it certainly was different than all of their prior hits.






The Bloomfield Bloviator

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On Oct 31, 6:58 pm, The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> At that time I think I only knew WABC. Not sure when I realized that
> there was another station in NYC that played Top 40 (WMCA). Probably
> some time in the spring of 1969 I would guess. Then later in 1969 or
> some time in 1970 I picked up on WOR-FM and then a local NJ station
> (WWDJ) that was around for a while. I remember clearly when WWDJ
> debuted the new Osmonds single (Hold Her Tight), I guess in June of
> 1972. They made a real big deal about having it before anybody else,
> and it certainly was different than all of their prior hits.

WWDJ was more of a teeny bopper station. I don;t think they played
much hard rock or traditional pop stuff, even if they were hits.

Looks like WWDJ came on in the air in late 1971. Here's what seems to
be their second survey....

http://www.97wwdj.com/111671.html

97/WWDJ Survey Number 2 week of Nov. 16, 1971

1. Gypsys, Tramps and Thieves---Cher
2. Two Divide By Love---Grassroots
3. Imagine---John Lennon
4. Have You Seen Her---The Chi-Lites
5. Never My Love---The 5th Dimension
6. Peace Train---Cat Stevens
7. Everybody's Everything---Santana
8. Baby, I'm A Want You---Bread
9. Family Affair---Sly & Family Stone
10. Theme from Shaft---Isaac Hayes
11. I Found Someone Of My Own---Free Movement
12. I'm A Man---Chicago
13. Absolutely Right---The 5 Man Electrical Band
14. One Fine Morning---Lighthouse
15. Long Ago And Far Away---James Taylor
16. Superstar---Temptations
17. Got to Be There---Michael Jackson
18. Where Did Our Love Go---Donnie Elert
19. Wild Night---Van Morrison
20. A Natural Man---Lou Rawls
21. I Know I'm Losing You---Rod Stewart
22. An Old Fashioned Love Song---Three Dog Night
23.
24. That's The Way A Woman Is---Messengers
25. Respect Yourself---The Staple Singers
26. Yo Yo---Osmond Bros.
27. Maggie May---Rod Stewart

I assume #23 was something that did not fit their format, so it was
not listed on the survey and likely not played on the station.

The Bloomfield Bloviator

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On Oct 31, 6:58 pm, The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
Seems the station started playing top 40 in May, but I guess did not
publish a survey until November....

http://www.97wwdj.com/history.html

The Rock & Roll history of WWDJ began on Monday, May 17th. of 1971
when WJRZ, a country station, became WWDJ - Top 40, a format which
would be it's cornerstone for the nearly three years.

WJRZ played all Beatle songs for a few days before becoming WWDJ top
40.When WWDJ started, it looked like it would fill the AM gap left by
the demise of WMCA and in many ways it was(especially to us who only
had AM in their cars).

Although 97DJ was no 'MCA, they still played more of a variety music
than 77 WABC(one example was Chuck Berry's My Ding-a-Ling, a song that
hit number one on the WWDJ survey, but not played on WABC).
Unfortunately, as in the case of WMCA, it was another AM station with
signal problems. They were directional 5 kw both day and night.WWDJ
was owned by Pacific & Southern, who also operated KKDJ about the same
time in Los Angeles, which was an FM station. KKDJ used the same
jingle package as its sister station WWDJ. Another problem that DJ had
an idenity crisis in that it did not know whether to be a New York
station or a New Jersey station.

The original deejay lineup included "The Original" Bill Bailey, Bwana
Johnny, and Mike Phillips, with Nick Anthony as Program Director. The
other day parts were filled out with several DJ's from the country
music days. One of those DJ's was Bob Lockwood, who was originally a
WJRZ jock and stayed on for awhile at WWDJ with Jerry White, another
WJRZ holdover. Lockwood, was PD at WJRZ and brought in from WJJD
Chicago for his expertise in country music. WJRZ's predacessor was
WNTA an ill fated MOR station programmed by former WNEW great Art
Ford. Prior to WNTA it was WAAT. The DJ’s retained from WJRZ did not
give their names on the air. The exception to this rule was Dean
Anthony (one of the WMCA Good Guys) who hosted a variety of shifts on
the station and was held over from the country music days where he had
worked since 1969. Dean worked on WJRZ while working Sunday's on WMCA
in what was to be it's final year as a top 40 station(1970). When
Dean's shift was over at WMCA he would race over to WJRZ for his late
Sunday afternoon show. One shift that Dean worked at the new WWDJ was
10am to 12 noon during the first several months it was on the air. He
would often invite listeners to call him and give them their comments
on the radio station (the comments were not played on the air). In
speaking with Dean, he indicated that, in his words, “it was the
tightest run radio station he was ever at”. One of the reasons for
this was because its program director was the former P.D. of WSAI in
Cincinnati, Nick Anthony. To understand the station you have to
remember the old WOR-FM. It had the same type of format and with a
little more personality. WWDJ, unlike WABC, seldom referred to it's
survey,(in fact, on the side of their building they had their own
graffiti, which read "We'll make W A B - SEE"..). It played plenty of
oldies and had what was a common attraction of this type station, a
full time request line. They also had one more thing in 1971, that was
New York Met baseball. The station was in the final year of a five
year contract one which they would not renew.

There were many excellent DJ’s who passed through the 97 DJ doors.
They include Al Brady,(went on to become Program Director at WABC),
Ronnie Grant, Howard Clark(who demolished a new Jaguar XKE that was to
be a prize on KFRC, "The Big 610" out in California, on the very first
morning of the promotion) , George Taylor Morris(who is the voice
behind "Reeling In The Years" and the DJ who broke the news on the
Dark Side Of The Moon & the Wizard Of Oz association), Sean Casey (who
was the last Program Director WWDJ, had), Joe Conway, Steve Clark(who
was for a short time a WMCA Good Guy in 1967, plus on WOR-FM & CBS-
FM), Mark Driscoll(also of WOR-FM and WNBC),Bob Lockwood, Don Cannon
(he can be heard on the radio in the original Rocky movie), Bob
Savage, Bobby Finck (ala Robert K. Oliver, or Rokko from 99X)and many
more. Sean Casey worked at WOR FM and WPLJ before DJ, and then went on
to work for a while at CBS FM. Steve O'Brien of ABC and YNY fame
worked afternoons for a period of time as well as Jim King of 99X
fame. During the summer of 1971, Dean Anthony left the station and was
replaced by a DJ named Chuck Cooper (ala Radio City Bill, Bill Rock
who has worked at WYNY and WNBC among other stations). Bwana Johnny
had two separate tours with the station. So did Gary Russell, who
worked mornings and weekends in separate tours (Gary was really a
personality and would talk about other stations once in awhile. That
was a real no-no in those days.) Gary Russell was also the last DJ on
the air before WWDJ’s music format changed to
inspiration.

The talent was in and out constantly.

The Magic Bus-An innovative promotion that WWDJ did was the Magic Bus.
It was a 9 passenger Volkswagen bus, painted in psychedelic
colors(similar to the ones 97/DJ used on their promos & surveys).The
Magic Bus would cruise the streets of the greater New York area loaded
with various prizes to give out. The theme song for the Bus was most
appropriately The Who’s “Magic Bus”, which would be played from the
Bus as a signal that it was in the neighborhood. The DJ’s would give
out the location of where the Bus was. The first person going up to
the Bus saying “97/DJ is my local radio station” would pickup the
prize for that day. One memory Bwana Johnny shared about the Magic
Bus , was that it had commercial license plates, which meant at that
time it was not aloud on the New Jersey Garden State Parkway. This
created for WWDJ a major hassle in getting the bus around Jersey. WWDJ
also had an on the air contest with the Bus. If a caller heard the
Magic Bus horn on the air, they were to call & if the where the right
# caller, they would get to “Ripoff” a prize. They finally gave the
Bus away in a contest.(1)

In 1972, the station began promoting the fact that it played oldies as
well as current hits. The slogan that year was "We Dig Gold Out of
Rock". It also have a phrase in the beginning of 1972: “97/WWDJ, LETS
THE SOUND SHINE IN".

In the early part of the year they ran a phone contest with the 1st
person to answer the phone with the line “I listen to 97 WWDJ” winning
the jackpot (that may not be the exact wording but you get the idea).
The jackpot climbed quiet high, & it may have been as high as $30,000
before anyone finally got it. During the Christmas season of 1971,
the station ran a promotion called "The Real Santa", where kids would
talk to Santa on the radio. He always signed off with
"Merrrrrrrrrrrrrry Christmas. Goodbye". The station continued along in
1973, adding a top 30 countdown show Sunday evenings, which it called
"The Big 30", hosted by the returning Bwana Johnny. This show started
at the end of January 1973 and ran about six months.

Taliesyn

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The Bloomfield Bloviator <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in news:881bef97-81a5-
4be3-a208-3...@h9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
No, it wasn't like WABC and their online surveys with missing songs.
Someone here simply did a poor transcribe or had a poor photocopy to
work with. The missing song is actually. . .

23. LEE MICHAELS DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN (#18 last week)

You can see a photo of the actual survey here...

http://www.las-solanas.com/arsa/surveys_item.php?svid=11673&lidx=4&lttl=5
&lcnt=20&srt1=tsc_psv%20DESC&vqry=Hackensack

Although the date on the survey says Nov. 19th, it appears to be in error
as the next survey is dated Nov. 23rd.

I was living in Montreal in 1971 and regularly twirled the dials
at night, listening to WABC (New York), WPTR (Albany), WKBW (Buffalo),
WLS & WCFL Chicago, CHUM Toronto and CFOX Montreal, and I believe WRKO
and WMEX in Boston. I was a long-distance listener.


The Bloomfield Bloviator

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On Oct 31, 7:29 pm, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in news:881bef97-81a5-
> 4be3-a208-36ea631a3...@h9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
> http://www.las-solanas.com/arsa/surveys_item.php?svid=11673&lidx=4<...
> &lcnt=20&srt1=tsc_psv%20DESC&vqry=Hackensack
>
> Although the date on the survey says Nov. 19th, it appears to be in error
> as the next survey is dated Nov. 23rd.

If Randy PNY sees this maybe he can fill in the missing song. He was
listed as one of the people who got the surveys together for the site.


Jeff

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I don't know why, but I can't stand Proud Mary, no matter who
does a version of it.

Jeff

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On Oct 31, 3:49 pm, rwalker <rwal...@despammed.com> wrote:
> On 31 Oct 2012 16:41:50 GMT, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> >> 3. Chewy Chewy - The Ohio Express (Buddah)
>
> >Failed to chart.
>
> Kind of surprises me.  That thing was so driven into my skull that it
> still haunts me in my nightmares.

LOL

Bruno

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Bruce,

#23 seems to have been Lee Michaels "Do you know what I mean"

http://www.las-solanas.com/arsa/charts_view.php?svid=11673

Bruno

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OOps, Tali beat me to it ;)

Taliesyn

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Bruno <brun...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:50922f32$0$29872$c3e8da3
$5496...@news.astraweb.com:
Good you reposted it, Bruce seems to have completely overlooked my fill-
in for him. There's an actual photo of the chart with that song.

Taliesyn

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Jeff <yourimag...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Seems to be a rather difficult song to dislike, considering what else
was in the charts at the time... But you've proven me wrong beyond all
expectations! :)



The Bloomfield Bloviator

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On Nov 1, 9:25 am, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
> Bruno <brun05...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:50922f32$0$29872$c3e8da3
> $54964...@news.astraweb.com:
What are you talking about?

I commented and said that hopefully Randy PNY would see the thread and
add the song in.

hislop

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On 31/10/2012 11:56 AM, Taliesyn wrote:
> 44 years ago today, on October 30th, 1968, these were my Top
> 10 songs on that date, as published in The Delta Optimist
> Newspaper, in Delta, BC. The newspaper is still published.
>
> SOUND 10 � October 30, 1968 � Edition 153
> TW LW
> 1. White Room* ..... [8th week #1] .............. Cream 1
> 2. Smell Of Incense .................. Southwest F.O.B. 3
> 3. Shape Of Things To Come ... Max Frost& The Troopers 2

Did this actually get airplay?

> 4. In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida .................. Iron Butterfly 4
> 5. All Along The Watchtower ... Jimi Hendrix Experience x
> 6. Come On, React! .......................... Fireballs x
> 7. Quick Joey Small .. Kasenetz-Katz Sing. Orch. Circus 5

80s nightclub song, played right after Faith No More

> 8. Ice In The Sun .......................... Status Quo x
> 9. Magic Carpet Ride ...................... Steppenwolf x
> 10. That's All I Really Need ......... Springfield Rifle �
>
> *(Note) Canadian single release for Cream's "White Room" on
> the Polydor Records label was the full-length 4:56 while
> the U.S. release on Atco Records was butchered - sorry,
> edited - down to 3:04. Yet another case of US labels short-
> changing American record buyers.
>
> Songs with an "x" in the last week position denote that they
> were absent on the previous week's chart (Oct. 23rd) which
> featured only 5 songs due to an extended article. They were,
> however, listed on the Oct. 16th chart.

The Bloomfield Bloviator

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On Nov 1, 12:00 pm, hislop <takecarebew...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >   3. Shape Of Things To Come ... Max Frost&  The Troopers  2
>
> Did this actually get airplay?

Of course. It was a huge national hit in the USA, getting to #22 on
Billboard.

Taliesyn

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hislop <takecar...@gmail.com> wrote in news:k6u6be$e5u$1...@dont-email.me:

> On 31/10/2012 11:56 AM, Taliesyn wrote:
>> 44 years ago today, on October 30th, 1968, these were my Top
>> 10 songs on that date, as published in The Delta Optimist
>> Newspaper, in Delta, BC. The newspaper is still published.
>>
>> SOUND 10 � October 30, 1968 � Edition 153
>> TW LW
>> 1. White Room* ..... [8th week #1] .............. Cream 1
>> 2. Smell Of Incense .................. Southwest F.O.B. 3
>> 3. Shape Of Things To Come ... Max Frost & The Troopers 2
>
> Did this actually get airplay?
>

Yes, of course. Radio was my only source for all my songs, so I
had to have heard it on a rather regular basis. At my favorite
stations in Seattle it was a #9 at KOL and a #8 at KJR. It doesn't
seem to appear on the Vancouver station charts so I can't say if
they played it.

Bruce already mentioned it was a #22 at Billboard. And I can add
that it peaked at #17 at Cash Box, the U.S. chart based more on
actual sales.



Taliesyn

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The Bloomfield Bloviator <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in
news:9049368c-75cc-40b9...@q16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com:
My fault, I read it wrong.

The Bloomfield Bloviator

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On Nov 1, 2:59 pm, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
> hislop <takecarebew...@gmail.com> wrote innews:k6u6be$e5u$1...@dont-email.me:
>
> > On 31/10/2012 11:56 AM, Taliesyn wrote:
> >> 44 years ago today, on October 30th, 1968, these were my Top
> >> 10 songs on that date, as published in The Delta Optimist
> >> Newspaper, in Delta, BC. The newspaper is still published.
>
> >>      SOUND 10   •    October 30, 1968    •    Edition 153
> >> TW                                                       LW
> >>   1. White Room* ..... [8th week #1] .............. Cream  1
> >>   2. Smell Of Incense .................. Southwest F.O.B.  3
> >>   3. Shape Of Things To Come ... Max Frost & The Troopers  2
>
> > Did this actually get airplay?
>
> Yes, of course. Radio was my only source for all my songs,

Were you not buying records then?

If you were buying records, didn't you ever buy anything that the
clerk in the store turned you on to? Or just buy a new record that
you hadn't heard yet by an act that you knew of already?

By the time I was the age that you were in 1968 I was finding out
about records from other sources aside from what I heard on the radio.

The Bloomfield Bloviator

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Thanks, Tali.

This thread got me to make up a playlist of just the things I
remembered from late 1968 through the end of 1969, about 139 songs.
They appear on the playlist in pretty much the order that I heard them
at the time. Most all of them were played on WABC. The only exceptions
were a couple of flip sides I discovered on my own (Buzz Saw, for
one), and one album track (Maxwell's Silver Hammer) that I heard on
the radio, maybe WMCA who listed the Abbey Road album at #1 for weeks.

I included everything I remembered hearing, good or bad, exceot for
one record that I really hated (Love Theme From Romeo and Juliet -
Mancini). I changed the station every time that thing came on.

Most of the things that were on WABC's survey, but that I don't
remember from then, were soul records. I don't remember any James
Brown from 1969, or other soul hits like "The Chokin' Kind" or "Going
In Circles" or "Baby I'm For Real." Must not have liked that sound yet
as an 11 year old.

The last song is "She Lets Her Hair Down" by the Tokens.

I saved some other things that I heard late in 1969 (Raindrops Keep
Falling, I Want You Back, Venus, Whole Lotta Love, etc...) for the
1970 playlist, as I remember those all more from January-February of
1970.

I had done this decades ago on cassettes. It was a lot harder then,
not only to have to physically tape every song, but to even find some
of them at the time. Back then I did 1969 through 1973 on cassettes.

This time I included about ten items from late 1968, leading into
1969.

It's great to hear these things in the order that you first heard
them, one after the other.

Taliesyn

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The Bloomfield Bloviator <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in
news:7f0ace33-24bc-427c...@s14g2000vba.googlegroups.com:

> On Nov 1, 2:59 pm, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> hislop <takecarebew...@gmail.com> wrote
>> innews:k6u6be$e5u$1...@dont-email.me
>:
>>
>> > On 31/10/2012 11:56 AM, Taliesyn wrote:
>> >> 44 years ago today, on October 30th, 1968, these were my Top
>> >> 10 songs on that date, as published in The Delta Optimist
>> >> Newspaper, in Delta, BC. The newspaper is still published.
>>
>> >>      SOUND 10   •    October 30, 1968    •    
> Edition 153
>> >> TW                                  
>                     LW
>> >>   1. White Room* ..... [8th week #1] .............. Cream  1
>> >>   2. Smell Of Incense .................. Southwest F.O.B.  3
>> >>   3. Shape Of Things To Come ... Max Frost & The Troopers  2
>>
>> > Did this actually get airplay?
>>
>> Yes, of course. Radio was my only source for all my songs,
>
> Were you not buying records then?
>

I was buying records - mostly singles, with the odd album. But only
if I liked it after hearing it on the radio.

> If you were buying records, didn't you ever buy anything that the
> clerk in the store turned you on to?

In the period 1964 to 1968 I was mostly buying singles (because
of my limited budget) and the stores were mostly small with a clerk
behind the counter handling the cash and the singles rack behind him.
Although there were album tables on the floor, they were all North
American products only. I certainly didn't need to ask him if he
heard any good singles recently as the sale people were much older
than me so I don't suspect they knew much of pop music anyway.

The singles I asked for were often so new they weren't even on the
local charts yet. Sometimes they had them, sometimes not.

I didn't discuss music with any store clerk until the early Eighties
when I had access to some large, quality import stores in downtown
Montreal, like Dutchy's Record Cave, or Phantasmagoria. There were a
lot of import records in these stores I had no knowledge of. Because
I was always dropping in for new releases (albums and 12") by the
British band, The Stranglers, one of the regular clerks took notice
of my near weekly visits and recommended a Belgian band called Polyphonic
Size that were related to the Stranglers. I took him up on the pricey
suggestion and bought the expensive album. The band became my favorite
through the rest of the decade and the early Nineties.

> Or just buy a new record that you hadn't heard yet by an act that you
> knew of already?

Later on in the Seventies and Eighties I bought unknown albums (to me) by
groups I knew. Often they were duds, but with a rare odd gem that
perhaps had one great song.

> By the time I was the age that you were in 1968 I was finding out
> about records from other sources aside from what I heard on the radio.

The record stores I had access to in my area between 1964 and 1968 were
not worth hanging out in. And I've never listened to FM. Hate the format
as you could never listen to anything beyond your local town. Now with
WiFi, I'm all over the world. The music I currently like is Japanese
anime music (Japanese Pop). Thank God, 'cos there's nothing else that
is remotely interesting.



The Bloomfield Bloviator

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On Nov 1, 4:43 pm, The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Tali.
>
> This thread got me to make up a playlist of just the things I
> remembered from late 1968 through the end of 1969, about 139 songs.

One of the huge classics from 1969 that I have no memory of from then
is "Suite" Judy Blue Eyes." I don't see it on WABC's survey at all. I
knew of the album because it was #1 at the local department store
where I bought most of my records (Grand Way) for months on end.

The Bloomfield Bloviator

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Here's the chronological list of the songs that would have been #1 on
my personal chart during 1969. Some for many weeks, obviously.

Everyday People
Crimson And Clover
Proud Mary
Sweet Cherry Wine
I Can Hear Music
More Today Than Yesterday
Bad Moon Rising
Honky Tonk Women
Come Together
Down On The Corner

The Bloomfield Bloviator

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On Nov 1, 4:43 pm, The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> I included everything I remembered hearing, good or bad,

I even included "Is That All There Is" by Peggy Lee, which I
absolutely hated back then, and don't exactly like it much now. I
remember wondering back then why anybody would want to hear something
like that with all the great top 40 style rock and roll that was
around.

Taliesyn

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The Bloomfield Bloviator <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in news:24abe6e9-1ad5-
40d8-99a1-e...@p22g2000vby.googlegroups.com:
The song did definitely chart in all my related cities of interest -
Seattle, Vancouver and Montreal - although I can't find my Montreal
surveys, but I know it was played a lot so it must have charted. Neither
"Marrakesh Express" nor "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" appealed to me. I preferred
"Our House", "Teach Your Children", and "Ohio".

Taliesyn

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The Bloomfield Bloviator <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in news:e904b6d0-a236-
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My chart officially stopped at the end of January. The only number 1's
that month were...

Reach Out - Merrilee Rush
Touch Me - Doors

("Crimson & Clover" and "Time Of The Season" were strong #2s)

For a few weeks between June 10th and July 21st, 1969 I resumed my chart,
but this time in Montreal, and the #1s during this period were...

Get Back - Beatles
The Boxer - Simon & Garfunkel
See - Rascals
One - Three Dog Night
Sorry Suzanne - Hollies
In The Year 2525 - Zager & Evans
Honky Tonk Woman - Rolling Stones

My chart pretty soon fell apart 'cos I couldn't find 10 songs I liked.

Two singles that I especially liked back then for sure would have been
#1s for me, but I didn't have a chart, and they were...

To Susan On The West Coast Waiting - Donovan
Wishful Sinful - Doors

Later on in the year I can think of very much liking...

Early In The Morning - Vanity Fare
Venus - Shocking Blue

For me, 1969 was a really lame year, no comparison with some of the great
stuff I loved from 1968.


Taliesyn

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Nov 1, 2012, 7:16:52 PM11/1/12
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The Bloomfield Bloviator <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in news:0d6995d4-3962-
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I agree with the "absolutely hated". I think the appeal was strictly
to older people, not teens and twenty-year-olds.

Taliesyn

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The Bloomfield Bloviator <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in news:751f3059-061a-
4810-b20d-0...@y6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:
Good story. I did something quite similar. Because I valued my personal
music history, my Sound 10 charts, back in the 90's I recorded on
cassette every song that made my Sound 10 charts in chronological order.
(April 30, 1966 to Jan. 22nd 1969).

I used 17 TDK MA110 metal tapes. These tapes actually ran about 57
minutes per side. I had already invested in a Nakamichi cassette deck
costing over a $1000 dollars. It was worth it because I couldn't detect
any of the audio problems that had affected all my previous decks. It was
the Rolls Royce of cassette decks - which explains why I used metal
tapes. I could detect no difference in sound between the master and the
tape.

Updating everything to CD now seems improbable as I'd have to make over
25 CDs and digitally manipulate over 700 songs. That's too much work,
I'll hang on to my cassettes. And besides, I already have all my Sound 10
songs on my main mp3 player.

And yes, it's a load of fun hearing all these songs in the order they
appeared on my chart. Matter of fact, you gave me a good idea. I'm
bringing out my cassette deck tomorrow and playing the complete series
in order. That's many hours of music. Hope it still works as I haven't
touched it for several years.






The Bloomfield Bloviator

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Nov 1, 2012, 7:58:33 PM11/1/12
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On Nov 1, 7:50 pm, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> Updating everything to CD now seems improbable as I'd have to make over
> 25 CDs and digitally manipulate over 700 songs.

The beauty of MP3s is that all you have to do is put the songs in the
correct order in a playlist, and save the playlist. You can move
things around, add things, delete things, and then just resave the
play list. If I wanted to put them on CDs that would only take maybe
90 minutes to put the playlist on 5-6 CDs.



> That's too much work,
> I'll hang on to my cassettes. And besides, I already have all my Sound 10
> songs on my main mp3 player.

Instead of the MP3 player, if you have the MP3s on your computer you
can do what I said above.


Taliesyn

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The Bloomfield Bloviator <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in
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Yeah, that would certainly be far easier than working with the original
masters (CDs, vinyl, mp3s) and saving everything in wav format. I doubt
that my ears at my age would really notice much difference. And the time
saved cannot even be calculated.

Or, going the simple route - completely forget about CDs - and arrange
the mp3s on my computer in chronological order of my charts and let 'em
play. I've never considered this before . . .

The Bloomfield Bloviator

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Nov 1, 2012, 9:16:54 PM11/1/12
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On Nov 1, 4:43 pm, The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Tali.
>
> This thread got me to make up a playlist of just the things I
> remembered from late 1968 through the end of 1969, about 139 songs.

I just went through the WMCA surveys and added another 6 songs that I
definitely heard back then, but don't see on WABC's surveys. I guess I
listened to WMCA earlier, and more often than I thought. Makes sense,
as I was switching the station somewhere to get away from Mancini,
Peggy Lee, and some other things I despised then.

Things like....

Let Me - Raiders
Special Delivery - 1910 Fruitgum Co.
Nothing But A Heartache - Flirtations

Up to 145 songs now. Just gonna check the WMCA surveys for late 1968,
but I don't think I was aware of the station yet,

The Bloomfield Bloviator

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Nov 1, 2012, 9:23:16 PM11/1/12
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On Nov 1, 9:16 pm, The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:

> Just gonna check the WMCA surveys for late 1968,
> but I don't think I was aware of the station yet,

Here's an odd one that entered their survey in November, never heard
of it....

24 -- HONEY DO - The Strangeloves (Sire)

Found it on youtube....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGEzaPPc3Tw

The Bloomfield Bloviator

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Nov 1, 2012, 9:29:18 PM11/1/12
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Okay, I added one more song (Both Sides Now) to end at 146.

I was gonna leave that off, i thought it was already a hit a bit
earlier, but it came up in November, and I definitely remember it from
then.

The recording was actually first released in late 1967 on her
Wildflowers album.

The Bloomfield Bloviator

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Nov 1, 2012, 9:34:49 PM11/1/12
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On Nov 1, 9:03 pm, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> Or, going the simple route - completely forget about CDs - and arrange
> the mp3s on my computer in chronological order of my charts and let 'em
> play. I've never considered this before . . .

I have loads of playlists like this on my computer, mostly countdowns
of yearly favorites.

I use an old program called musicmatch to organize everything. They're
out of business, but you can still get it on some websites.

It'll save playlists that are real long, like my 1,000 favorites of
all time.

I'm listening to my 68-69 memories now.....just went from "Love (Can
Make You Happy)" to "Heather Honey."

Wonder if Poisoned Rose knows either of those (not that he'd like them
much).

To me they are both essential records from 1969.



The Bloomfield Bloviator

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Nov 1, 2012, 9:59:18 PM11/1/12
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Added one more song, and it's now the last song on the playlist,
another one I hated back then.

Midnight Cowboy - Ferrante and Teicher

I had trouble finding the MP3, the Whitburn Project filed it in 1970
rather than 1969, and the file was not tagged right, so it did not
show up when I sorted them by artist.

It's always advantageous to end a playlist with an instrumental to
wind it down after it's over, and in this case it works out good. I
added it just where it belonged, as it was entering WABC's top 20 in
mid-December. And since I don't like it, I can just clear the playlist
before it's over if it starts to annoy me enough, since that's the end
anyway.



DianeE via Google

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Nov 1, 2012, 10:41:32 PM11/1/12
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On Thursday, November 1, 2012 9:59:18 PM UTC-4, The Bloomfield Bloviator wrote:
> Added one more song, and it's now the last song on the playlist, another one I hated back then. Midnight Cowboy - Ferrante and Teicher I had trouble finding the MP3, the Whitburn Project filed it in 1970 rather than 1969, and the file was not tagged right, so it did not show up when I sorted them by artist. It's always advantageous to end a playlist with an instrumental to wind it down after it's over, and in this case it works out good. I added it just where it belonged, as it was entering WABC's top 20 in mid-December. And since I don't like it, I can just clear the playlist before it's over if it starts to annoy me enough, since that's the end anyway.
------------

Best instrumental of 1969 is "Hawaii Five-O" by The Ventures.
Just my 2 cents.
DianeE
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Jeff

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Nov 2, 2012, 4:28:11 AM11/2/12
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On Nov 1, 8:29 am, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
I didn't care for Proud Mary after the first time of hearing
it, and when I was 16, our band only played that song
and Evil Ways by Santana. It was the only 2 songs
we knew how to play. It never occurred to me at
that age to just move my fingers around on the
guitar to memorize the chord positions, to play
other songs. Doh!

Jeff

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Nov 2, 2012, 4:33:40 AM11/2/12
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There is 4 other songs on the above list that I would rather play
than Proud Mary. I would have to listen to the others because
though I've heard them, I'm not familiar with the artists or
song titles. We're going back some 40 years.

Jeff

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On Nov 1, 6:50 pm, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in news:751f3059-061a-
> 4810-b20d-0c8e30e54...@y6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:
I don't remember if I already said this or not: I read 7 years
ago somewhere and the article stated that the music on CD's
wasn't permanent. I didn't believe it but was going through
many of my CD's recently, and there was no music on
some of the tracks, and many of them I had to throw out,
because they would no longer play. So I wanted to make
the suggestion that every 5 years or so, it would be a
good idea to make copies of what you have.


hislop

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Nov 2, 2012, 11:06:21 AM11/2/12
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Maybe close, but I feel inclined for 'Sacha' by Hank Marvin (of The
Shadows) as the best instrumental of 1969. Can't find evidence but most
likely an a-side in aus.
Listed as a b-side on wikipedia strangley, features on a compilation of
The Shadows. Never get tired of hearing this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuYpR6CBQLM


hislop

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Only a hit in Australia maybe:

Hank Marvin And The Shadows
From The Drifters To 1968
"A series of hits followed and it wasn't until 1967 that they released a
record without seeing chart success. Towards the end of this period
after having had a number of personnel changes, Hank Marvin and Brian
Bennett ( Drums) both released their own LP's which had very modest
success. Although Hank Marvin's single "Sacha" made it to number one in
Australia."

http://www.squidoo.com/hankmarvin

hislop

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Nov 2, 2012, 11:22:13 AM11/2/12
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwO-tmuaOto

"It was in the Australian top 40 in 1969 for over 20 weeks." someone said.

hislop

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On 2/11/2012 1:41 PM, DianeE via Google wrote:
I've got another great instrumental from 1969.
I'd be hard pressed to choose amongst these.

Love_At_First_Sight(Je_Taime_Moi_Non_Plus)-Sounds_Nice
This one's a real classic. Without vocals because of possible
censorship in the original.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RQ-dZ7c8w0

Roger Ford

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On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:41:32 -0700 (PDT), DianeE via Google
<Dian...@aol.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, November 1, 2012 9:59:18 PM UTC-4, The Bloomfield Bloviator wr=
>ote:
>> Added one more song, and it's now the last song on the playlist, another =
>one I hated back then. Midnight Cowboy - Ferrante and Teicher I had trouble=
> finding the MP3, the Whitburn Project filed it in 1970 rather than 1969, a=
>nd the file was not tagged right, so it did not show up when I sorted them =
>by artist. It's always advantageous to end a playlist with an instrumental =
>to wind it down after it's over, and in this case it works out good. I adde=
>d it just where it belonged, as it was entering WABC's top 20 in mid-Decemb=
>er. And since I don't like it, I can just clear the playlist before it's ov=
>er if it starts to annoy me enough, since that's the end anyway.
>------------
>
>Best instrumental of 1969 is "Hawaii Five-O" by The Ventures.
>Just my 2 cents.

I go with "Time Is Tight" Booker T & The MG's


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mari...@bblueyonder.co.uk (Roger Ford) wrote in
news:5093f9f2...@news.virginmedia.com:

> On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:41:32 -0700 (PDT), DianeE via Google
> <Dian...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, November 1, 2012 9:59:18 PM UTC-4, The Bloomfield
>>Bloviator wr= ote:
>>> Added one more song, and it's now the last song on the playlist,
>>> another =
>>one I hated back then. Midnight Cowboy - Ferrante and Teicher I had
>>trouble=
>> finding the MP3, the Whitburn Project filed it in 1970 rather than
>> 1969, a=
>>nd the file was not tagged right, so it did not show up when I sorted
>>them = by artist. It's always advantageous to end a playlist with an
>>instrumental = to wind it down after it's over, and in this case it
>>works out good. I adde= d it just where it belonged, as it was
>>entering WABC's top 20 in mid-Decemb= er. And since I don't like it, I
>>can just clear the playlist before it's ov= er if it starts to annoy
>>me enough, since that's the end anyway. ------------
>>
>>Best instrumental of 1969 is "Hawaii Five-O" by The Ventures.
>>Just my 2 cents.
>
> I go with "Time Is Tight" Booker T & The MG's
>
> ROGER FORD

Nothing much stands out for me from 1969... "Keem-O-Sabe" by The Electric
Indian wasn't too bad. I don't have it on my mp3 player.

Jeff

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On Nov 2, 1:42 pm, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
> maria...@bblueyonder.co.uk (Roger Ford) wrote innews:5093f9f2...@news.virginmedia.com:
You don't like the guess who?

Taliesyn

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Jeff <yourimag...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:a1535fbb-bbe9-45a1...@o8g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:

> On Nov 2, 1:42 pm, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> maria...@bblueyonder.co.uk (Roger Ford) wrote
>> innews:5093f9f2.10017703@ne
> ws.virginmedia.com:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:41:32 -0700 (PDT), DianeE via Google
>> > <DianeE...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>On Thursday, November 1, 2012 9:59:18 PM UTC-4, The Bloomfield
>> >>Bloviator wr= ote:
>> >>> Added one more song, and it's now the last song on the playlist,
>> >>> another
>> >>one I hated back then. Midnight Cowboy - Ferrante and Teicher I had
>> >>trouble
>> >> finding the MP3, the Whitburn Project filed it in 1970 rather than
>> >> 1969, a
>> >>nd the file was not tagged right, so it did not show up when I
>> >>sorted them = by artist. It's always advantageous to end a playlist
>> >>with an instrumental = to wind it down after it's over, and in this
>> >>case it works out good. I adde= d it just where it belonged, as it
>> >>was entering WABC's top 20 in mid-Decemb= er. And since I don't
>> >>like it,
> I
>> >>can just clear the playlist before it's ov= er if it starts to
>> >>annoy me enough, since that's the end anyway. ------------
>>
>> >>Best instrumental of 1969 is "Hawaii Five-O" by The Ventures.
>> >>Just my 2 cents.
>>
>> > I go with "Time Is Tight" Booker T & The MG's
>>
>> > ROGER FORD
>>
>> Nothing much stands out for me from 1969... "Keem-O-Sabe" by The
>> Electric Indian wasn't too bad. I don't have it on my mp3 player.
>
> You don't like the guess who?
>

I don't think the Guess Who qualify. The two people I responded to were
offering their favorite instrumental hit of 1969. My only suggestion was
"Keem-O-Sabe" by The Electric Indian.


Roger Ford

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The brainchild of a guy we had many dealings with in the 70's---the
late Bernie Binnick,himself late of Swan Records in Philly who
originally put out "Keem-O-Sabe" on his Marmaduke label before selling
the master to UA.

Bruno

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Nov 3, 2012, 5:53:49 AM11/3/12
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My Sydney Chart book shows it as being #1 for three weeks, in the top
ten for ten weeks and charting for 19 weeks in total.
However, it doesnt seem to appear in my local charts...even though I
have a copy of the single.
And...didnt he end up living in Perth, West Aust.

injipoint

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Nov 3, 2012, 8:18:27 AM11/3/12
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Sure does, in East Perth, which used to be an industrial suburb with a
power station and gasworks when I was a kid but is now an upmarket area
with pricey apartments and latte cafes. Still some good pubs around
there, though.

hislop

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Nov 3, 2012, 8:50:41 PM11/3/12
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Makes me wonder why this wasn't released in the US as it appears.
I used to hear it on the radio for years not knowing what it was, until
I had to find out.

DianeE

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"hislop" <takecar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:k70nhh$8ri$1...@dont-email.me...
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I never heard it before. Not too bad as pop instros go, but not a patch on
"Hawaii Five-O," which you'll notice is #1 on the Digital DreamDoor list of
top (American) TV theme songs:
http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_songs-TV-theme.html

Over here we never understood the huge popularity of The Shadows, but I
guess you guys didn't get what we saw in The Ventures or Booker T & The MGs
either.

DianeE


hislop

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Nov 5, 2012, 8:36:51 AM11/5/12
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We knew the theme from the TV show more. I looked up The Ventures
performing Hawaii-5-0 on youtube, on a fairly late clip which probably
didn't do the music justice.
In the Australian movie The Dish the local group plays the theme to
Hawaii-5-0 as the national anthem of the US (in 1969). I really don't
know if The Ventures version was aired here.
I'd bet Booker T & The MGs had a couple of hits here.
And there was a 70s version of the Hawaii-5-0 theme by Radio Birdman
here 'book em Dano', not sure if that was the title. It wasn't a hit at
all though, I never heard it on mainstream top 40 radio. It's on a
compilation of Australian songs.
I would bet The Ventures had hits here too.


hislop

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Nov 5, 2012, 8:43:16 AM11/5/12
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On 5/11/2012 11:36 AM, DianeE wrote:
> guess you guys didn't get what we saw in The Ventures or Booker T& The MGs
> either.
>
> DianeE
>
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWR5n-ZT4xI
It wasn't a hit in Melbourne. Records in Sydney didn't necessarily get
the same reception in Melbourne.
Bit of a variation on the original theme.

DianeE

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"hislop" <takecar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:k78fpl$l1q$2...@dont-email.me...
> On 5/11/2012 11:36 AM, DianeE wrote:
>> "hislop"<takecar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:k70nhh$8ri$1...@dont-email.me...
>>> On 2/11/2012 1:41 PM, DianeE via Google wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Best instrumental of 1969 is "Hawaii Five-O" by The Ventures.
>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>> DianeE
>>>
>>> Maybe close, but I feel inclined for 'Sacha' by Hank Marvin (of The
>>> Shadows) as the best instrumental of 1969. Can't find evidence but most
>>> likely an a-side in aus.
>>> Listed as a b-side on wikipedia strangley, features on a compilation of
>>> The Shadows. Never get tired of hearing this.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuYpR6CBQLM
>>>
>> ------------
>> I never heard it before. Not too bad as pop instros go, but not a patch
>> on
>> "Hawaii Five-O," which you'll notice is #1 on the Digital DreamDoor list
>> of
>> top (American) TV theme songs:
>> http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_songs-TV-theme.html
>>
>> Over here we never understood the huge popularity of The Shadows, but I
>> guess you guys didn't get what we saw in The Ventures or Booker T& The
>> MGs
>> either.
>>
>>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWR5n-ZT4xI
> It wasn't a hit in Melbourne. Records in Sydney didn't necessarily get
> the same reception in Melbourne.
> Bit of a variation on the original theme.
-------------
Wow! That is STRANGE! They sound like the Ramones to me, but I'm probably
wrong about that.

DianeE


hislop

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Nov 6, 2012, 8:49:45 AM11/6/12
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Era of The Ramones, not a surprising comparison really. Not a big fan
of The Ramones but don't tell anyone.
A Sydney band. The Hawaii-5-0 theme shows up about half way through,
not bad then. Lousy vocals as per the fashion.
Part of Australian music history, but not regarded much during their
heyday, like The Saints (evidence that they predate The Damned with a
punk single).
The Radio Birdman song is on a compilation of 50 years of Australian
Rock and Roll. I thought it was earlier than 1978 (or 77) for some
reason. Dim memories of Sunday night album shows and odd FM broadcasts
in the mid 70s.



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