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Uni

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Aug 20, 2006, 5:09:34 AM8/20/06
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Watching a TV ad for their, I think, titled "Malt Shop Favorites" 150
songs. Time-Life claims these are ALL "Digitally Remastered", which I
HIGHLY doubt. But the cost? Well, how does 5 payments of $29.95 grab
you???!!! Ouch!!! A $1.00 per song!!! I can find the same songs for a
lot less in the CD budget bin!!!

Uni

Dr. Robert

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Aug 20, 2006, 10:47:41 AM8/20/06
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And watch out - once you buy from this establishment boiler-room operation,
you start getting weird charges on your card for things you never ordered!
at least, that's been my experience!
Overall, not at all worth the purchase or dealing with these people (to give
them the benefit of the doubt)
Best,
Dr. Robert


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Uni

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Aug 20, 2006, 10:58:52 AM8/20/06
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Dr. Robert wrote:

> And watch out - once you buy from this establishment boiler-room operation,
> you start getting weird charges on your card for things you never ordered!
> at least, that's been my experience!

Same here, Doc! It wasn't until my credit card expired, until they
stopped sending me stuff, in eras of music, of little or no interest!!
Columbia House's S&H was ridiculous!!!

Thanks!

> Overall, not at all worth the purchase or dealing with these people (to give
> them the benefit of the doubt)

Yep!

Uni

Michael Black

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Aug 20, 2006, 11:16:15 AM8/20/06
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Uni (no.e...@no.email.invalid) writes:
> Dr. Robert wrote:
>
>> And watch out - once you buy from this establishment boiler-room operation,
>> you start getting weird charges on your card for things you never ordered!
>> at least, that's been my experience!
>
> Same here, Doc! It wasn't until my credit card expired, until they
> stopped sending me stuff, in eras of music, of little or no interest!!
> Columbia House's S&H was ridiculous!!!
>
I thought you were talking about Time-Life, yet suddenly you bring in COlumbia
House.

The way to work Columbia House is to look at overall cost per CD. I was
paying ten dollars per CD here in Canada, which never seemed too high, given
that they were albums selling for twenty dollars or so at the stores. If
you look at merely the S&H, then of course it's high. BUt if you look
at the deals (often 3 for the price of 1) and add in the S&H and divide
by the number of CDs, it usually works out fine.

That doesn't even factor in the "freebies" you get when you join, which
alone come in at a far lower price per CD. I tend to count those
separately, and I've never joined the club where I didn't get all
those "freebies" for the price of one CD at the store, the rest being
actually free. One could drop the cost per CD significantly if one
adds up all they pay for the CDs during the course of a membership, and
divide by the number of CDs received.

Of course, the trick is to not buy until the deals are good.

ANother trick, if COlumbia House is still requiring more than 1 CD
at full price to fullfill the membership requirements is to buy a 2CD
album, since they count as 2 towards fulfillment, yet don't cost twice
as much as a single CD, and S&H is only a dollar more than a single CD.

But those 2CDs when there is a good deal, and you do great.

Most of the CDs I've bought have come from COlumbia House (BMG closed
here in Canada a year after I joined, though I did well from them that
first year), and because the prices were so low I was buying things I
wouldn't consider at store prices, hence my CD collection is far more
varied than my record collection ever was.

Michael

Ron Hontz

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Aug 20, 2006, 10:06:54 PM8/20/06
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I got the sh**s of Time Life about 15 years ago--sending me stuff I
hadn't ordered. I finally wrote them AND called them to say "If you
EVER send me anything again, I'm keeping it and you can chase me to hell
to collect." They haven't bothered me since.

Taliesyn

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Aug 20, 2006, 10:24:27 PM8/20/06
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Uni wrote:

Yes, on 89 different discs. So how is that a lot less?

It's no big scam anyway. You get 10 cd's of 15 songs each in a
collector's box for $150. That's a very normal price of $10 per CD.
Don't compare this with your overstock bin stuff, which are all just
clearance items "for the homeless" :-)

-Taliesyn

Uni

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Aug 20, 2006, 11:13:29 PM8/20/06
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Taliesyn wrote:

> Uni wrote:
>
>> Watching a TV ad for their, I think, titled "Malt Shop Favorites" 150
>> songs. Time-Life claims these are ALL "Digitally Remastered", which I
>> HIGHLY doubt. But the cost? Well, how does 5 payments of $29.95 grab
>> you???!!! Ouch!!! A $1.00 per song!!! I can find the same songs for a
>> lot less in the CD budget bin!!!
>
>
> Yes, on 89 different discs. So how is that a lot less?

89 times, let's say, 12 songs, per CD = 1068 songs!!!

>
> It's no big scam anyway. You get 10 cd's of 15 songs each in a
> collector's box for $150.

Yeah, carboard! :-)

That's a very normal price of $10 per CD.

BS, T', and you know it!

> Don't compare this with your overstock bin stuff, which are all just
> clearance items "for the homeless" :-)

LOL!

Uni
>
> -Taliesyn

tr...@iwvisp.com

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Aug 20, 2006, 11:17:25 PM8/20/06
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Wait a year and by it on Ebay for $50.

I bought the PBS Doo Wop 5 or 6 VHS set for $50 last year, still in the
shrink wrap.

Ray Arthur

Uni

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Aug 20, 2006, 11:20:06 PM8/20/06
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Michael Black wrote:

> Uni (no.e...@no.email.invalid) writes:
>
>>Dr. Robert wrote:
>>
>>
>>>And watch out - once you buy from this establishment boiler-room operation,
>>>you start getting weird charges on your card for things you never ordered!
>>>at least, that's been my experience!
>>
>>Same here, Doc! It wasn't until my credit card expired, until they
>>stopped sending me stuff, in eras of music, of little or no interest!!
>>Columbia House's S&H was ridiculous!!!
>>
>
> I thought you were talking about Time-Life, yet suddenly you bring in COlumbia
> House.

Oh, don't mind me, I always change the topic in the middle of the
stream! :-)

>
> The way to work Columbia House is to look at overall cost per CD. I was
> paying ten dollars per CD here in Canada, which never seemed too high, given
> that they were albums selling for twenty dollars or so at the stores. If
> you look at merely the S&H, then of course it's high. BUt if you look
> at the deals (often 3 for the price of 1) and add in the S&H and divide
> by the number of CDs, it usually works out fine.
>
> That doesn't even factor in the "freebies" you get when you join, which
> alone come in at a far lower price per CD. I tend to count those
> separately, and I've never joined the club where I didn't get all
> those "freebies" for the price of one CD at the store, the rest being
> actually free. One could drop the cost per CD significantly if one
> adds up all they pay for the CDs during the course of a membership, and
> divide by the number of CDs received.
>
> Of course, the trick is to not buy until the deals are good.
>
> ANother trick, if COlumbia House is still requiring more than 1 CD
> at full price to fullfill the membership requirements is to buy a 2CD
> album, since they count as 2 towards fulfillment, yet don't cost twice
> as much as a single CD, and S&H is only a dollar more than a single CD.

Yeah, with my Columbia plan, maybe late '80's, I had to purchase 3-4 LPs
within a year and then they're half price or 2 for one. However, that's
when, at least for me, the S&H offset and "value"! Heck, they were being
shipped in the same state I reside!!!

>
> But those 2CDs when there is a good deal, and you do great.
>
> Most of the CDs I've bought have come from COlumbia House (BMG closed
> here in Canada a year after I joined, though I did well from them that
> first year), and because the prices were so low I was buying things I
> wouldn't consider at store prices, hence my CD collection is far more
> varied than my record collection ever was.

That good, Mike! I enjoy finding CDs in food stores! :-)

Thanks!

Uni

>
> Michael

Uni

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Aug 20, 2006, 11:29:00 PM8/20/06
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tr...@iwvisp.com wrote:

> Uni wrote:
>
>>Watching a TV ad for their, I think, titled "Malt Shop Favorites" 150
>>songs. Time-Life claims these are ALL "Digitally Remastered", which I
>>HIGHLY doubt. But the cost? Well, how does 5 payments of $29.95 grab
>>you???!!! Ouch!!! A $1.00 per song!!! I can find the same songs for a
>>lot less in the CD budget bin!!!
>>
>>Uni
>
>
> Wait a year and by it on Ebay for $50.

Well, T-L generally doesn't have much of anything new, just a different
compilation of various artists, from other sets of theirs.

>
> I bought the PBS Doo Wop 5 or 6 VHS set for $50 last year, still in the
> shrink wrap.

Cool! Had to make a pledge of probably $125-$250 TO GET THAT!!

Uni
>
> Ray Arthur
>

Uni

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Aug 20, 2006, 11:37:49 PM8/20/06
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Uni wrote:

> Taliesyn wrote:
>
>> Uni wrote:
>>
>>> Watching a TV ad for their, I think, titled "Malt Shop Favorites" 150
>>> songs. Time-Life claims these are ALL "Digitally Remastered", which I
>>> HIGHLY doubt. But the cost? Well, how does 5 payments of $29.95 grab
>>> you???!!! Ouch!!! A $1.00 per song!!! I can find the same songs for a
>>> lot less in the CD budget bin!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, on 89 different discs. So how is that a lot less?
>
>
> 89 times, let's say, 12 songs, per CD = 1068 songs!!!
>
>>
>> It's no big scam anyway. You get 10 cd's of 15 songs each in a
>> collector's box for $150.

Think it was (8) CDs, with (2) Doo-wop ones.

150 songs should not cost more than $75 bucks! If, and a BIG IF, they
were being released by T-L, for the first time, digitally remastered, I
might understand the higher price!


Heck, I paid $25 for 140 songs, from Collectables and that even had a
nice black wooden box! Not some toilet paper box, with a picture on it! :-)

Uni

Taliesyn

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Aug 21, 2006, 5:56:40 AM8/21/06
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Uni wrote:
> Taliesyn wrote:
>
>> Uni wrote:
>>
>>> Watching a TV ad for their, I think, titled "Malt Shop Favorites" 150
>>> songs. Time-Life claims these are ALL "Digitally Remastered", which I
>>> HIGHLY doubt. But the cost? Well, how does 5 payments of $29.95 grab
>>> you???!!! Ouch!!! A $1.00 per song!!! I can find the same songs for a
>>> lot less in the CD budget bin!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, on 89 different discs. So how is that a lot less?
>
>
> 89 times, let's say, 12 songs, per CD = 1068 songs!!!
>
>>
>> It's no big scam anyway. You get 10 cd's of 15 songs each in a
>> collector's box for $150.
>
>
> Yeah, carboard! :-)
>
> That's a very normal price of $10 per CD.
>
> BS, T', and you know it!

$10 for a CD of 15 songs IS a good price, even for a "bag lady" like
you. These aren't the typical "samplers" you normally spam here at 10
songs per disc. Mind you, I checked the track lists and "yuck", their
mostly the kinda stuff you like. . .

-Taliesyn

Uni

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Aug 21, 2006, 6:38:28 AM8/21/06
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Taliesyn wrote:

> Uni wrote:
>
>> Taliesyn wrote:
>>
>>> Uni wrote:
>>>
>>>> Watching a TV ad for their, I think, titled "Malt Shop Favorites"
>>>> 150 songs. Time-Life claims these are ALL "Digitally Remastered",
>>>> which I HIGHLY doubt. But the cost? Well, how does 5 payments of
>>>> $29.95 grab you???!!! Ouch!!! A $1.00 per song!!! I can find the
>>>> same songs for a lot less in the CD budget bin!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, on 89 different discs. So how is that a lot less?
>>
>>
>>
>> 89 times, let's say, 12 songs, per CD = 1068 songs!!!
>>
>>>
>>> It's no big scam anyway. You get 10 cd's of 15 songs each in a
>>> collector's box for $150.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, carboard! :-)
>>
>> That's a very normal price of $10 per CD.
>>
>> BS, T', and you know it!
>
>
> $10 for a CD of 15 songs IS a good price, even for a "bag lady" like
> you. These aren't the typical "samplers" you normally spam here at 10
> songs per disc.

Excuse me? If you look at my last "buy", there was a Time-Life CD, with
20 songs, for less than $10. Maybe they couldn't "fit" 20 songs on those
CDs. Maybe long versions? Nope! Heck, T-L use to put 22 songs on a CD
and refer to it as a "Double Length" CD! I guess with advances in
technology, they had to minimize the number of tracks, so they could
charge more!!

Uni

Taliesyn

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Aug 21, 2006, 12:59:50 PM8/21/06
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Uni wrote:
> Taliesyn wrote:
>
>> Uni wrote:
>>
>>> Taliesyn wrote:
>>>
>>>> Uni wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Watching a TV ad for their, I think, titled "Malt Shop Favorites"
>>>>> 150 songs. Time-Life claims these are ALL "Digitally Remastered",
>>>>> which I HIGHLY doubt. But the cost? Well, how does 5 payments of
>>>>> $29.95 grab you???!!! Ouch!!! A $1.00 per song!!! I can find the
>>>>> same songs for a lot less in the CD budget bin!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, on 89 different discs. So how is that a lot less?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 89 times, let's say, 12 songs, per CD = 1068 songs!!!
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's no big scam anyway. You get 10 cd's of 15 songs each in a
>>>> collector's box for $150.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, carboard! :-)
>>>
>>> That's a very normal price of $10 per CD.
>>>
>>> BS, T', and you know it!
>>
>>
>>
>> $10 for a CD of 15 songs IS a good price, even for a "bag lady" like
>> you. These aren't the typical "samplers" you normally spam here at 10
>> songs per disc.
>
>
> Excuse me? If you look at my last "buy", there was a Time-Life CD, with
> 20 songs, for less than $10.


Swell maps! Then just wait around at the CD dust bin at Kresge's
until the TL Malt Shop Favorites goes down to $9.99 each. You'll
probably buy them then and rave here what a marvelous catch you made,
saving 15 cents! Happens every time . . .

-Taliesyn

Uni

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Aug 21, 2006, 7:01:44 PM8/21/06
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Taliesyn wrote:

Yo, T', I save one heck of a lot more than a few cents!!! Just like that
imported disco double CD! Yeah, $22.95 on a web site, but put you ear
close to the monitor and I'll tell you what I paid. $5.99!!!!!
Go on, tell me they're junk CDs, and I'll tell you I find The Stones,
McCartney and other very popular artists. So, there!!!

Go on, show me a web site with that ultra rare Italy import Neil Sedaka
CD!! And you thought only the Bear Family issued that stuff for $$$$$!!!


Uni

>
> -Taliesyn

Taliesyn

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Aug 21, 2006, 8:01:50 PM8/21/06
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Uni wrote:

> Taliesyn wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Excuse me? If you look at my last "buy", there was a Time-Life CD,
>>> with 20 songs, for less than $10.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Swell maps! Then just wait around at the CD dust bin at Kresge's
>> until the TL Malt Shop Favorites goes down to $9.99 each. You'll
>> probably buy them then and rave here what a marvelous catch you made,
>> saving 15 cents! Happens every time . . .
>
>
> Yo, T', I save one heck of a lot more than a few cents!!! Just like that
> imported disco double CD! Yeah, $22.95 on a web site, but put you ear
> close to the monitor and I'll tell you what I paid. $5.99!!!!!

Disco... oh YUCK! You paid too much at any price! But then you're easy
to please . . .

> Go on, tell me they're junk CDs, and I'll tell you I find The Stones,
> McCartney and other very popular artists. So, there!!!
>

Go ahead and lie, see if I care!

> Go on, show me a web site with that ultra rare Italy import Neil Sedaka
> CD!! And you thought only the Bear Family issued that stuff for $$$$$!!!

Why buy a full dust bin CD of Sedaka singing vapid songs like "Oh Carol"
and other ditties in "Latin" when I can buy the exact song I want via a
download $1.00. Neil didn't record songs meant for audiophiles, so an
mp3 is more than perfect for a pop song.

-Taliesyn

Uni

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Aug 21, 2006, 8:11:17 PM8/21/06
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Taliesyn wrote:

> Uni wrote:
>
>> Taliesyn wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Excuse me? If you look at my last "buy", there was a Time-Life CD,
>>>> with 20 songs, for less than $10.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Swell maps! Then just wait around at the CD dust bin at Kresge's
>>> until the TL Malt Shop Favorites goes down to $9.99 each. You'll
>>> probably buy them then and rave here what a marvelous catch you made,
>>> saving 15 cents! Happens every time . . .
>>
>>
>>
>> Yo, T', I save one heck of a lot more than a few cents!!! Just like
>> that imported disco double CD! Yeah, $22.95 on a web site, but put you
>> ear close to the monitor and I'll tell you what I paid. $5.99!!!!!
>
>
> Disco... oh YUCK! You paid too much at any price! But then you're easy
> to please . . .

However you slice it, Disco is music!

>
>> Go on, tell me they're junk CDs, and I'll tell you I find The Stones,
>> McCartney and other very popular artists. So, there!!!
>>
>
> Go ahead and lie, see if I care!

No lie!!! I even posted a Stones CD I bought!!! "Made In The Shade!" Ha!

>
>> Go on, show me a web site with that ultra rare Italy import Neil
>> Sedaka CD!! And you thought only the Bear Family issued that stuff
>> for $$$$$!!!
>
>
> Why buy a full dust bin CD of Sedaka singing vapid songs like "Oh Carol"
> and other ditties in "Latin" when I can buy the exact song I want via a
> download $1.00. Neil didn't record songs meant for audiophiles, so an
> mp3 is more than perfect for a pop song.

Oh, then you'd like that import CD, on the Disky label, all MP3s!!! Go
on, knock yourself out! And a MP3 is not an exact copy of a song, just
mathematical equations, made to sound like music! They saw you coming, T'!

Uni

>
> -Taliesyn

Taliesyn

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Aug 21, 2006, 8:45:19 PM8/21/06
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Uni wrote:
> Taliesyn wrote:
>
>> Uni wrote:
>>
>>> Taliesyn wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Excuse me? If you look at my last "buy", there was a Time-Life CD,
>>>>> with 20 songs, for less than $10.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Swell maps! Then just wait around at the CD dust bin at Kresge's
>>>> until the TL Malt Shop Favorites goes down to $9.99 each. You'll
>>>> probably buy them then and rave here what a marvelous catch you made,
>>>> saving 15 cents! Happens every time . . .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yo, T', I save one heck of a lot more than a few cents!!! Just like
>>> that imported disco double CD! Yeah, $22.95 on a web site, but put
>>> you ear close to the monitor and I'll tell you what I paid. $5.99!!!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Disco... oh YUCK! You paid too much at any price! But then you're
>> easy to please . . .
>
>
> However you slice it, Disco is music!
>

So is my dog's howling - he thinks he's singing, I don't. How's he gonna
prove it?

>>
>>> Go on, tell me they're junk CDs, and I'll tell you I find The Stones,
>>> McCartney and other very popular artists. So, there!!!
>>>
>>
>> Go ahead and lie, see if I care!
>
>
> No lie!!! I even posted a Stones CD I bought!!! "Made In The Shade!" Ha!
>
>>
>>> Go on, show me a web site with that ultra rare Italy import Neil
>>> Sedaka CD!! And you thought only the Bear Family issued that stuff
>>> for $$$$$!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Why buy a full dust bin CD of Sedaka singing vapid songs like "Oh Carol"
>> and other ditties in "Latin" when I can buy the exact song I want via a
>> download $1.00. Neil didn't record songs meant for audiophiles, so an
>> mp3 is more than perfect for a pop song.
>
>
> Oh, then you'd like that import CD, on the Disky label, all MP3s!!! Go
> on, knock yourself out! And a MP3 is not an exact copy of a song, just
> mathematical equations, made to sound like music!

Then we agree; an mp3 is fine for Sedaka.

-Taliesyn

Uni

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Aug 21, 2006, 9:39:24 PM8/21/06
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Taliesyn wrote:

<trimmed T' down to size>


>>
>> However you slice it, Disco is music!
>>
>
> So is my dog's howling - he thinks he's singing, I don't. How's he gonna
> prove it?

It not unusual, for your kind, with a very limited liking to actual
music, not to like disco!

<snipped more useless stuff>

>
>
> Then we agree; an mp3 is fine for Sedaka.

Sorry, Sedaka is not on that CD!!! Hahaha!!

Uni

>
> -Taliesyn

Barrabas

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Aug 22, 2006, 7:30:22 AM8/22/06
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"Uni" <no.e...@no.email.invalid> wrote in message
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Digitally remasters probably just means they had to make
a digital master for CDs. All CDs of previous material
have been digitally remastered.
Actual remastering seems a more recent thing where the sound
is distinctly improved for CDs. It's obvious when you hear it.

>
> Uni
>


Uni

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Aug 22, 2006, 10:40:03 PM8/22/06
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Barrabas wrote:
> "Uni" <no.e...@no.email.invalid> wrote in message
> news:iFVFg.556846$GD7.1...@fe08.news.easynews.com...
>
>>Watching a TV ad for their, I think, titled "Malt Shop Favorites" 150
>>songs. Time-Life claims these are ALL "Digitally Remastered", which I
>>HIGHLY doubt. But the cost? Well, how does 5 payments of $29.95 grab
>>you???!!! Ouch!!! A $1.00 per song!!! I can find the same songs for a lot
>>less in the CD budget bin!!!
>
>
> Digitally remasters probably just means they had to make
> a digital master for CDs.

I totally agree. Like I've stated before, record companies use these
terms loosely, even to the point of fraudulent statements. Digitally
mastered, would be correct, in Time-Life's case.

All CDs of previous material
> have been digitally remastered.

No, digtally mastered. Unless they have studio tapes, for a lot of songs
don't even exist, remastering is impossible.

> Actual remastering seems a more recent thing where the sound
> is distinctly improved for CDs. It's obvious when you hear it.

Most remastering can be heard with different mixing. Some sounds close
to the originally released songs, some songs sound totally different.

Thanks!!

Uni

>
>
>>Uni
>>
>
>
>

Uni

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Aug 26, 2006, 10:30:59 AM8/26/06
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Taliesyn wrote:

> Uni wrote:
>
>> Taliesyn wrote:
>>
>>> Uni wrote:
>>>
>>>> Watching a TV ad for their, I think, titled "Malt Shop Favorites"
>>>> 150 songs. Time-Life claims these are ALL "Digitally Remastered",
>>>> which I HIGHLY doubt. But the cost? Well, how does 5 payments of
>>>> $29.95 grab you???!!! Ouch!!! A $1.00 per song!!! I can find the
>>>> same songs for a lot less in the CD budget bin!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, on 89 different discs. So how is that a lot less?
>>
>>
>>
>> 89 times, let's say, 12 songs, per CD = 1068 songs!!!
>>
>>>
>>> It's no big scam anyway. You get 10 cd's of 15 songs each in a
>>> collector's box for $150.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, carboard! :-)
>>
>> That's a very normal price of $10 per CD.
>>
>> BS, T', and you know it!
>
>
> $10 for a CD of 15 songs IS a good price, even for a "bag lady" like
> you.


Pure bull, T'. Shows you never get out. I just picked up a(nother)
Compass Production CD, PGC (Pure Gold Collection), of '70's songs, 17
Tracks, for $8.99!!!!!

Uni


p.s. To Todd Lucas - see, I reward Compass for making good on a previous
error.

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