A Letter To Kevin Mark

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

Just sent an email to Kevin Mark....

----------------------------------------------------

Kevin, my name is Bruce Grossberg. I am a fan of your music.

I thought you might want to know. I mentioned in a newsgroup that your
record, "If Your Phone Don't Ring," was one of my favorite records of
recent years. This schmuck who posts there, Eric Broome, who calls
himself "Poisoned Rose," is a small time rock critic who sometimes
writes album reviews for some magazines that cover alternative rock
music. He listened to your music and then called you "A hack who never
had an original idea in his life."

Here's is the link to Eric Broome's website.

http://home.earthlink.net/~elbroome/

He is some sort of a failed musician also. Just in case you ever come
into contact with this twirp, you should know what he said about you.

BG

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On Aug 23, 7:21 pm, poisoned rose <pro...@poisonedrose.com> wrote:

> Anyone who reads this post will realize that you are seriously sick in
> the head. As in you really shouldn't be living unsupervised.

Good thing YOU'RE not a judge.


> Do you have a police record?

No, do you?

What are you so upset about? You're a (would be) rock critic, right?
You can't be afraid of what an act that you write about thinks when
they see it. If you're gonna shoot your mouth (or your keyboard) off
about someone, that person should know about it. Maybe next time
you'll think twice before you trash a musician merely because you want
to attack someone else's taste.


> Hard to imagine you not having some sort of
> physically violent encounter with someone, at least once.

I think I had a fight with another kid in the locker room back in
about 9th grade maybe.


> Since virtually *anyone* is more of an adult than you are, I'd like
to
> think KM's reaction will be just a "Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent
> folks" shrug.

Maybe not. He might contact you and ask for a clarification of your
comments.


> But meanwhile, you're callously sacrificing HIS feelings
> just to satisfy your own demented bloodlust.

If I was him I'd want to know about any negative comments that anyone
made about my music, or about me. You couldn;t stop at attacking his
music. He had to get personal, which is a no-no for a professional
journalist, which, of course, you are not.


> Do you think a struggling musician will be pleased to hear that someone thinks his music is lame?

You're the one who said his music was lame, not me. What makes you
think he is struggling? I'd say he's a much more succesful musician
than you are.

Here are some of his awards:

2008
Lys Blues Award for Live Show of The Year
Lys Blues Award for Artistic Performance

2006
ROSEQ/RIDEAU Award for Top Showcase
International Songwriting Competition Finalist
Lys Blues Award for Male Artist of The Year
Lys Blues Award for Live Show of The Year

2005
Lys Blues Award for Live Show of The Year
Lys Blues Award for Album of The Year

2004
Lys Blues Award for Live Show of The Year

2001
Maple Blues Award for New Artist Of The Year
CBC Galaxie Rising Star Award
Toronto Blues Society Talent Search

And some reviews of his work, by "professional" music critics:

CanadianBlues.ca
Blues, as a musical expression of the human heart, comes in many
shades. Sure, it can represent an anguished declaration of despair,
the cry of a soul in torment… but blues can just as easily be an
exercise in exuberance, too...
>> View full review as PDF

Mike Graham, Ottawa Blues Society
If it’s ‘boogie’ and high-tempo rocking blues that you like, then
‘Cuttin’ Loose’ is for you! If there ever was a ‘party CD’, this is
it!
>> View full review as PDF

Duke Eatmon, CBC Radio One (Canada)
Montreal bluesman Kevin Mark’s latest album “Cuttin’ Loose” pays
hommage to the two "royal Alberts"...
>> View full review as PDF

Delta Man, Radio Baker Street (France)
Quelle fougue dès l’entame de l’album ! Tout commence par un Goin’ To
Vegas, habillé de rock sauce fifties...
>> Téléchargez la suite en format PDF

John Valenteyn, Maple Blues Magazine
Montreal’s Kevin Mark was the 2001 Toronto Blues Society National
Talent Search winner...
>> View full review as PDF

Dean Cottrill, Hour Magazine (Montreal)
Sporting a voice not unlike Kim Wilson, and with Jack de Keyser as
producer, Kevin Mark’s “Rolling The Dice” goes for the throat...
>> View full review as PDF

Réjean Nadon, Le Net Blues (Montréal)
Kevin Mark a peut-être perdu 30 kilos, mais il n'a certainement pas
perdu le Nord. Bien dans sa peau, il nous présente cet opus 3 à la
fois convivial et festif qui marque la suite logique de l'artiste...
>> Téléchargez la suite en format PDF

Tim Holek, Southwest Blues Magazine (U.S.A.)
With a full-bodied guitar and a considerable voice, Kevin Mark is a
big man with a big sound...
>> View full review as PDF


And his recent and upcoming schedule of live shows:

August 4, 2012 - 6:00 pm
Ben Racine/Kevin Mark Duo
Virée Blues Sorel-Tracy
Café El Piquante
30, du Roi, Sorel-Tracy, QC

August 4, 2012 - 10:00 pm
Lewis Dave
Virée Blues Sorel-Tracy
Pub L’Indus
1126 Marie-Victorin, Sorel-Tracy, QC

August 18, 2012 - Private Event
Rick L. Blues Trio

August 25, 2012 - Private Event
Rick L. Blues

August 26, 2012 - 1:30 pm
Rick L. Blues Trio
Festival Trois-Rivières en Blues
Scène Acoustique

October 11, 2012 - 7:30 pm
CD LAUNCH PARTY
Ben Racine Band
Calistoga Grill
235 boul. St-Jean
(corner Donegani/Maywood)
Montreal, Québec

October 13, 2012 - 8:30 pm
Ben Racine Band
CD LAUNCH PARTY
Le Zaricot
1460 des Cascades, St-Hyacinthe, Québec
Admission:
$10 en avance/in advance
$15 porte/door

October 18, 2012 - 7:30 pm
Kevin Mark 4
Calistoga Grill
235 boul. St-Jean
(corner Donegani/Maywood)
Montreal, Québec
1st set: Quiet dinner blues
2nd set: Let's dance!

October 20, 2012 - 10:00 pm
Kevin Mark 4
Brutopia
1219 Crescent
Montreal, Québec

October 26-27, 2012 - 9:00 pm
Kevin Mark 4
Festival de Blues St-Fortunat
St-Fortunat, Quebec

November 3, 2012 - 8:30 pm
Kevin Mark 4
Le Zaricot
1460 des Cascades, St-Hyacinthe, Québec
Admission:
$10 en avance/in advance
$15 porte/door

November 9-10, 2012 - 9:00 pm
Ben Racine Band
Festival de Blues St-Fortunat
St-Fortunat, Quebec

November 17, 2012 - 10:00 pm
Kevin Mark 4
Bar St-Laurent
283 rue Notre-Dame
Répentigny, Québec

November 24, 2012
Rick L. Blues
Maison de la culture de l’Avenir
(15 minutes de Drummondville)
624 principale, L’Avenir, Québec

December 1, 2012 - 10:00 pm
Ben Racine Band
Brutopia
1219 Crescent
Montreal, Québec


When was your last gig?


> And do you really think he is as much of a headcase as you are, such
> that he's going to take obsessive note of my name and plot to wreak
> "revenge" on me someday?

Doubtful. I would think he would dismiss you as frustrated musician /
small time would be rock critic who can't even get arrested.


> What a tiny little man you are. Even your girlfriend can scarcely bear
> to defend your behavior.

What are you talking about? Didn't you see the thread she started in
the 50s group the other day....

(Wanna go after this guy, Bruce?)

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1950s/browse_thread/thread/b50a4dddd5dc467f?hl=en#


> Oh, and I'm sure he'll be thrilled to hear you like exactly one of his
> songs. Why don't you write back and tell him how much you hate
> improvisation? He'll love to hear that.

If I hear back from him I will tell him that. And I like other songs
by him, but there's only one that really think is great.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On Aug 23, 8:07 pm, poisoned rose <pro...@poisonedrose.com> wrote:
>
> Good. And if he asks what you like about it, impress him with your savvy
> musical insights and tell him that you rate it a "7."

I'm sure if he looks at your site he'll be very impressed with your
"20 point rating system" for albums.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On Aug 23, 8:07 pm, poisoned rose <pro...@poisonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>

> I had already put this entire issue out of mind...I might not have even
> been able to recall the guy's name. But I guess this is now your life's
> top priority. You are truly sick.

>
> > What are you so upset about?  You're a (would be) rock critic, right?
> > You can't be afraid of what an act that you write about thinks when
> > they see it. If you're gonna shoot your mouth (or your keyboard) off
> > about someone, that person should know about it. Maybe next time
> > you'll think twice before you trash a musician merely because you want
> > to attack someone else's taste.
>

> "Upset" would not be the right word. What I am is "startled" that you
> are really THIS sick in the head and have no little sense of proper
> "boundaries." That you're really so seriously deranged that you would
> write a stranger and essentially try to goad him into beating someone
> else up.

LOL.,,sounds like you're afraid that he might actually do something if
he met you. In fact, I would think, with your condescending manner,
that people have already taken swings at you before.


> But maybe I should have known, seeing what you pulled with that recently
> deceased person Fred.

What did I pull? He told me that I could contact his college and ask
about his degree, and I did.

> > Maybe not. He might contact you and ask for a clarification of your
> > comments.
>

> I doubt it. If he has any sense, he's going to realize how nutty your
> letter was and what it indicates about your mental health.

The musicians that I know would want to know about a comment like
yours, and would consider someone who informed them to be doing them a
favor.

> > If I was him I'd want to know about any negative comments that anyone
> > made about my music, or about me.
>

> Only because you're the most insecure, overcompensating little man on
> Earth.

>
> > What makes you think he is struggling?
>

> Oh please. If you applied your typical criteria to him and didn't have
> such blatant double standards, you'd grandly "LOL" that he's a never-was
> loser whom no one on the street would ever recognize, who never charted,
> etc. etc. etc.
>
> His biggest claim for success is on the local live circuit (I guess he
> doesn't really tour), and you don't even care about that because concert
> success never figures into your vapid, all-important verdicts on
> artists' "popularity."

Keep typing, I'll have more stuff to send him next time.

> > > And do you really think he is as much of a headcase as you are, such
> > > that he's going to take obsessive note of my name and plot to wreak
> > > "revenge" on me someday?
>
> > Doubtful. I would think he would dismiss you as frustrated musician /
> > small time would be rock critic who can't even get arrested.
>

> And if he has any sense, he'll view you as someone even "smaller."

Keep typing. Maybe I'll send him the link to this group and see if he
comes around and posts.

> > What are you talking about?  Didn't you see the thread she started in
> > the 50s group the other day....
>

> I'm sure she bites her tongue with you on a daily basis.

>
> > > Oh, and I'm sure he'll be thrilled to hear you like exactly one of his
> > > songs. Why don't you write back and tell him how much you hate
> > > improvisation? He'll love to hear that.
>
> > If I hear back from him I will tell him that. And I like other songs
> > by him, but there's only one that really think is great.
>

> Good. And if he asks what you like about it, impress him with your savvy
> musical insights and tell him that you rate it a "7."

It's an "8"

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On Aug 23, 8:07 pm, poisoned rose <pro...@poisonedrose.com> wrote:
>
> "Upset" would not be the right word. What I am is "startled"

Maybe you should have thanked me for those corrections, as you
promised you would. I gave you several oppurtiunities to live up to
your word.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

Just heard back from Kevin....looks like you MIGHT be safe, Broome.

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Hi Bruce!

First off, many thanks for the kind compliments and support. "If Your
Phone..." is one of my favourite tunes from my album "Cuttin' Loose".
We had a great time recording it and it was fun to work with the young
female singer, Tina Dee.

As for Mr. Broome... I've never heard of him and I'm quite surprised
he's heard enough of my stuff (only TWO albums so far) to be able to
pass such definite judgement regarding my songwriting.

In the blues world, we're not really trying to reinvent the wheel.
We're just trying to put out some fun grooves that we hope people in
general will enjoy - and if we can score a few fans with some catchy
lyrics, then even better!

Thanks again for your help in keepin' them blues alive!

Regards,
Kevin "The Hack" Mark

www.KevinMark.com

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

A followup from Kevin after I answered him"

------------------------------------------------------

And yeah, I really have to take Broome's comments with a grain of
salt... To say someone has "never" had an original idea in their
LIFE... well, it's kinda amusing and false on every single level. And
when you consider that I haven't ONCE played in the US... and have
been on a bit of a hiatus from fronting a band for the past two years
to raise my young family, I'm amazed he found the time in his
incredibly busy schedule to even acknowledge my existence. LOL!


Cheers,
KM

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On Aug 23, 9:17 pm, poisoned rose <pro...@poisonedrose.com> wrote:
>
> "In the blues world, we're not really trying to reinvent the wheel."
>

> Looks like he has a more realistic take on music than you do.

You mean, more realistic than YOU do.

You're the one who put down what he was doing, not me. As a supposed
musician, you should know that there is room for all kinds of
musicians. There's nothing wrong with wanting to play an older style
of music. For you to call him a "hack" and make the other comments
that you did, THAT'S the problem here.

You were wrong to do that. Let's see you admit it.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

Not offended at all. More surprised that someone could give me a
review like that as if they've known me and my music for 20 years.

I saw his site... and specifically his review page:
http://home.earthlink.net/~elbroome/np.html

Not a lot of high marks there. I guess he really is just a disgruntled
chump.

KM

www.KevinMark.com

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

What the FUCK is that smell?

I think Broome shit his pants when he read the first few posts in this
thread.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On Aug 23, 9:29 pm, poisoned rose <pro...@poisonedrose.com> wrote:

> I wasn't "wrong." It's my opinion.

How can you have an opinion about him "never having an original idea
in his life?"

I guess you haven't learned anything. Next I'll have to contact the
Dynamic Hepnotics. Maybe they'll come here from Australia and "Hepno
Beat" your ass.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On Aug 23, 9:30 pm, poisoned rose <pro...@poisonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Upset" would not be the right word. What I am is "startled" that you
> > > are really THIS sick in the head and have no little sense of proper
> > > "boundaries." That you're really so seriously deranged that you would
> > > write a stranger and essentially try to goad him into beating someone
> > > else up.
>
> > LOL.,,sounds like you're afraid that he might actually do something if
> > he met you.
>

> Actually, I made several comments indicating that I suspected he had
> more sense than you do. Which, not surprisingly, turned out to be the
> case.

>
> > The musicians that I know would want to know about a comment like
> > yours, and would consider someone who informed them to be doing them a
> > favor.
>

> Right, amongst that tiny circle of profanity-slinging,
> Sopranos-idolizing meatheads in which you isolate yourself.

>
> > > Oh please. If you applied your typical criteria to him and didn't have
> > > such blatant double standards, you'd grandly "LOL" that he's a never-was
> > > loser whom no one on the street would ever recognize, who never charted,
> > > etc. etc. etc.
>
> > > His biggest claim for success is on the local live circuit (I guess he
> > > doesn't really tour), and you don't even care about that because concert
> > > success never figures into your vapid, all-important verdicts on
> > > artists' "popularity."
>
> > Keep typing, I'll have more stuff to send him next time.
>

> It's becoming time to reconsider whether I should continue granting you
> the privilege of my replies. You should worry about this, because I'm
> obviously the most important thing in your world right now and the loss
> of my attention would be devastating.

I want you to leave for good. You're a huge waste of time here, with
all of your off topic shit about modern music. If you could leave that
stuff somewhere else when you came here and just wrote about 60s music
and related things, fine, but you clearly cannot do that.

Like KM said, a "disgruntled chump."

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

> It's harder to avoid when you repeatedly make moronic proclamations
> about music that are not confined to the '60s era.
>
> And of course, your hypocritical insistence on on-topic material is a
> joke.

If you REALLY believed I was "sick" and was a "psychopath" you would
not continue to
start shit with me.

If you want a war here, just keep at it.

[marcus60s]

On Aug 23, 9:17 pm, poisoned rose <pro...@poisonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>

> > A followup from Kevin after I answered him"
>

> > And yeah, I really have to take Broome's comments with a grain of
> > salt... To say someone has "never" had an original idea in their
> > LIFE... well, it's kinda amusing and false on every single level. And
> > when you consider that I haven't ONCE played in the US... and have
> > been on a bit of a hiatus from fronting a band for the past two years
> > to raise my young family, I'm amazed he found the time in his
> > incredibly busy schedule to even acknowledge my existence.  LOL!
>
> > Cheers,
> > KM
>

> You must be so, so disappointed that he didn't turn out to be a
> psychotic stalker too.
>
> Never played in the US after all these years? Wow, even I would have
> guessed he had managed that small feat a few times.

>
> "In the blues world, we're not really trying to reinvent the wheel."
>

> Looks like he has a more realistic take on music than you do. Which is
> not surprising, since you have no musical ability at all and so
> consistently demonstrate this handicap in your posts.

You can't possibly be so naive to believe that Bruce actually sent
that email, and received a response?

[BobbyM]

Marcus, you don't know Bruce.

[DianeE]

"poisoned rose" <pro...@poisonedrose.com> wrote in message
news:prose9-E76D91....@news.eternal-september.org...
> The Bloomfield Bloviator <Sav...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>> What are you talking about? Didn't you see the thread she [meaning me]

>> started in
>> the 50s group the other day....
>

> I'm sure she bites her tongue with you on a daily basis.

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I resent your assumptions about me and about my relationship with Bruce.

For your information I am preoccupied with other things right now, like
politics, my job, my health, and the Honey Boo Boo show. The Marc-and-Eric
Show we've been treated to lately here is mildly amusing, and about on a
level with Honey Boo Boo. I can watch fat redneck girls jumping into a mud
puddle, or I can watch you and Catone hit each other over the head with
water balloons. Or I can, and often do, ignore the whole thing and play
"Lickin' Stick" by James Brown. Something to which you ought to listen.

DianeE

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

LOL...what are you, some kind of an asshole?

I corresponded with Kevin Mark, back and forth, for over an hour
today. He loved my list of my 100 favorite artists.

If I faked his responses they would have been along the lines of how
Keven said that Broome better hope that he never runs into him
somewhere.

I'll tell you what. How about if I can forward you an actual email
from Kevin Mark, you leave the group until the end of September? If
I can't I'll leave the group til the end of September?

Are you in?

[DianeE]

"poisoned rose" <pro...@poisonedrose.com> wrote in message

news:prose9-261EB7....@news.eternal-september.org...

> "DianeE" <Tired...@SorryFolks.com> wrote:
>
>> For your information I am preoccupied with other things right now, like
>> politics, my job, my health, and the Honey Boo Boo show. The
>> Marc-and-Eric
>> Show we've been treated to lately here is mildly amusing, and about on a
>> level with Honey Boo Boo. I can watch fat redneck girls jumping into a
>> mud
>> puddle, or I can watch you and Catone hit each other over the head with
>> water balloons. Or I can, and often do, ignore the whole thing and play
>> "Lickin' Stick" by James Brown. Something to which you ought to listen.
>

> Wow. You two really are a pair. This calculated attempt to steer
> attention away from your boyfriend's horrendous behavior couldn't be
> more transparent.
----------------
Listen carefully. The difference between you and Bruce is that he *knows*
when he's being an asshole AND YOU DON'T.

Horrendous behavior? Bruce has been posting here for 13 years. You
suddenly show up and start making rules for the rest of us to follow? What
kind of behavior is that? Who the fuck do you think you are?

DianeE

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On Aug 24, 12:01 am, poisoned rose <pro...@poisonedrose.com> wrote:

> "DianeE" <TiredOfS...@SorryFolks.com> wrote:
> > For your information I am preoccupied with other things right now, like
> > politics, my job, my health, and the Honey Boo Boo show.  The Marc-and-Eric
> > Show we've been treated to lately here is mildly amusing, and about on a
> > level with Honey Boo Boo.  I can watch fat redneck girls jumping into a mud
> > puddle, or I can watch you and Catone hit each other over the head with
> > water balloons.  Or I can, and often do, ignore the whole thing and play
> > "Lickin' Stick" by James Brown.  Something to which you ought to listen.
>

> Wow. You two really are a pair. This calculated attempt to steer
> attention away from your boyfriend's horrendous behavior couldn't be
> more transparent.

Your bringing Diane into this makes your relatives/asociates, etc...
fair game for me now. You may regret this.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On Aug 24, 12:22 am, poisoned rose <pro...@poisonedrose.com> wrote:

(To see how poorly he simulates a human being's demeanor, take a look
at his recent
> "Bloomfield Buddy" posts in the '50s-pop newsgroup.)

Those are obvious exagerated satirical goofs, you fucking cum guzzler.

Many times I have made phony posts in these groups using different
phony names and had people convinced that it was some new poster.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On Aug 24, 12:28 am, poisoned rose <pro...@poisonedrose.com> wrote:

> The Bloomfield Bloviator <savo...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > For your information I am preoccupied with other things right now, like
> > > > politics, my job, my health, and the Honey Boo Boo show. The
> > > > Marc-and-Eric
> > > > Show we've been treated to lately here is mildly amusing, and about on a
> > > > level with Honey Boo Boo. I can watch fat redneck girls jumping into a
> > > > mud
> > > > puddle, or I can watch you and Catone hit each other over the head with
> > > > water balloons. Or I can, and often do, ignore the whole thing and play
> > > > "Lickin' Stick" by James Brown. Something to which you ought to listen.
>
> > > Wow. You two really are a pair. This calculated attempt to steer
> > > attention away from your boyfriend's horrendous behavior couldn't be
> > > more transparent.
>
> > Your bringing Diane into this makes your relatives/asociates, etc...
> > fair game for me now. You may regret this.
>

> You really are a sociopath, you know. Seriously.
>
> And Diane is HERE, stupid. She already was "into this."

No she wasn't. She had nothing to do with this feud. YOU brought her
up in posts, saying that she must be aghast at my behavior, or
something like that. Then when she answered you, you proceeded to
insult her.

>
> Be glad that she's still willing to blow a smokescreen for you. You
> certainly don't deserve one.

There's no smokescreen.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On Aug 24, 12:38 am, poisoned rose <pro...@poisonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Bloviator <savo...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > And Diane is HERE, stupid. She already was "into this."
>
> > No she wasn't.
>

> Google says she has posted to this newsgroup 2317 times.

>
> > She had nothing to do with this feud. YOU brought her
> > up in posts, saying that she must be aghast at my behavior, or
> > something like that. Then when she answered you, you proceeded to
> > insult her.
>

> When she "answered" me, you say. Oh yes, she was so honest, polite and
> non-insulting in her reply.

>
> > > Be glad that she's still willing to blow a smokescreen for you. You
> > > certainly don't deserve one.
>
> > There's no smokescreen.
>

> Of course there is. She even had the gall to pretend Marc/me battles are
> more dominant than you/me battles.

Okay, don't say you weren't warned.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On Aug 24, 12:38 am, poisoned rose <pro...@poisonedrose.com> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Bloviator <savo...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > > And Diane is HERE, stupid. She already was "into this."
>
> > No she wasn't.
>

> Google says she has posted to this newsgroup 2317 times.
>

> > She had nothing to do with this feud. YOU brought her
> > up in posts, saying that she must be aghast at my behavior, or
> > something like that. Then when she answered you, you proceeded to
> > insult her.
>

> When she "answered" me, you say. Oh yes, she was so honest, polite and
> non-insulting in her reply.

You started that by saying things about her first. She didn't first
make posts about you, you first made unflattering posts about her and
her relationship with me.

[DianeE]

"poisoned rose" <pro...@poisonedrose.com> wrote in message

news:prose9-2A2F5D....@news.eternal-september.org...

> "DianeE" <Tired...@SorryFolks.com> wrote:
>
>> Listen carefully. The difference between you and Bruce is that he
>> *knows*
>> when he's being an asshole AND YOU DON'T.
>>
>> Horrendous behavior? Bruce has been posting here for 13 years. You
>> suddenly show up and start making rules for the rest of us to follow?
>> What
>> kind of behavior is that? Who the fuck do you think you are?
>

> You are such a braying joke. Your position is so phony that I can't even
> apply myself to writing a serious response.
--------------
Good night, Precious.

DianeE

[Travis_Trite]

> When she "answered" me, you say. Oh yes, she was so honest, polite and
> non-insulting in her reply.
>

>> > Be glad that she's still willing to blow a smokescreen for you. You
>> > certainly don't deserve one.
>>
>> There's no smokescreen.
>

> Of course there is. She even had the gall to pretend Marc/me battles are
> more dominant than you/me battles.

Oh, man. When Diane and Mr. Bloviator tag team -- look out!

From him you'll get how the lyrics don't matter, and from her you'll get,
"what pretentious lyrics from Neutral Milk Hotel."

[Travis_Trite]

> >
> > You can't possibly be so naive to believe that Bruce actually sent
> > that email, and received a response?
>
> LOL...what are you, some kind of an asshole?
>
> I corresponded with Kevin Mark, back and forth, for over an hour
> today. He loved my list of my 100 favorite artists.

You're Kevin Mark's hero. I wonder what he might think of some of the views
you've inked on these pages.

Maybe you could convince him to be your Lumpy. You could use the help.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

Remember those legendary words from "High Fidelity."

It's not what you're like, it's what you like (that matters).

[Travis_Trite]

> > > I corresponded with Kevin Mark, back and forth, for over an hour
> > > today. He loved my list of my 100 favorite artists.
> >
> > You're Kevin Mark's hero. I wonder what he might think of some of the
> > views
> > you've inked on these pages.
> >
> > Maybe you could convince him to be your Lumpy. You could use the help.
>
> Remember those legendary words from "High Fidelity."
>
> It's not what you're like, it's what you like (that matters).

Don't remember that from the film. I did read the book. The point of the
book, and the film, is that those guys are all losers.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

That's not what I got from it, and that's not what Roger Ebert got
either. I don't think he'd want to meet "losers."

Film critic Roger Ebert gave the film four out of four stars and
wrote, "Watching High Fidelity, I had the feeling I could walk out of
the theater and meet the same people on the street — and want to,
which is an even higher compliment".

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On Aug 24, 12:22 pm, "Travis_Trite" <Travis_Tr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > I corresponded with Kevin Mark, back and forth, for over an hour
> > > > today. He loved my list of my 100 favorite artists.
>
> > > You're Kevin Mark's hero. I wonder what he might think of some of the
> > > views
> > > you've inked on these pages.
>
> > > Maybe you could convince him to be your Lumpy. You could use the help.
>
> > Remember those legendary words from "High Fidelity."
>
> > It's not what you're like, it's what you like (that matters).
>
> Don't remember that from the film.

It's only the most famous line from the movie.

http://gloryinvirtue.wordpress.com/2009/04/14/its-what-you-like-not-what-youre-like/

http://writingonthewalll.blogspot.com/2007/04/its-not-what-youre-like-its-what-you.html

[Travis_Trite]

> > > > Maybe you could convince him to be your Lumpy. You could use the
> > > > help.
> >
> > > Remember those legendary words from "High Fidelity."
> >
> > > It's not what you're like, it's what you like (that matters).
> >
> > Don't remember that from the film. I did read the book. The point of the
> > book, and the film, is that those guys are all losers.
>
> That's not what I got from it, and that's not what Roger Ebert got
> either. I don't think he'd want to meet "losers."
>
> Film critic Roger Ebert gave the film four out of four stars and
> wrote, "Watching High Fidelity, I had the feeling I could walk out of
> the theater and meet the same people on the street � and want to,
> which is an even higher compliment".

Ebert blew my mind recently with a 30-years-later reevaluation of the
Graduate. He's not nearly as "on" with this review.

Though it's fiction, you might be able to tolerate the High Fidelity book,
if you haven't read it.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On Aug 24, 12:51 pm, "Travis_Trite" <Travis_Tr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Maybe you could convince him to be your Lumpy. You could use the
> > > > > help.
>
> > > > Remember those legendary words from "High Fidelity."
>
> > > > It's not what you're like, it's what you like (that matters).
>
> > > Don't remember that from the film. I did read the book. The point of the
> > > book, and the film, is that those guys are all losers.
>
> > That's not what I got from it, and that's not what Roger Ebert got
> > either. I don't think he'd want to meet "losers."
>
> > Film critic Roger Ebert gave the film four out of four stars and
> > wrote, "Watching High Fidelity, I had the feeling I could walk out of
> > the theater and meet the same people on the street and want to,
> > which is an even higher compliment".
>
> Ebert blew my mind recently with a 30-years-later reevaluation of the
> Graduate. He's not nearly as "on" with this review.

He certainly is on.

> Though it's fiction, you might be able to tolerate the High Fidelity book,
> if you haven't read it.

Not interested.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

She said that about Tom Waits. I don't think she's ever heard of NMH.

[Travis_Trite]

> > > Film critic Roger Ebert gave the film four out of four stars and
> > > wrote, "Watching High Fidelity, I had the feeling I could walk out of
> > > the theater and meet the same people on the street and want to,
> > > which is an even higher compliment".
> >
> > Ebert blew my mind recently with a 30-years-later reevaluation of the
> > Graduate. He's not nearly as "on" with this review.


> He certainly is on.

Sigh. [Why do I fall for these pathetic ploys/plays for attention on your
part?]

Okay, here goes.

His point about the believability of the characters is mostly a swipe at
other movies that don't have realistic characters.

Ebert has always been a guy who "has friends in low places." He was a big
reviewer of porn movies, so the fact that he would want to meet the guys in
the movie doesn't mean they're not losers.


"obsessed clerks in record stores, but the video store clerks who have seen
all the movies, and the bookstore employees who have read all the books.
Also for bartenders, waitresses, greengrocers in health food stores, kitchen
slaves at vegetarian restaurants, the people at GNC who know all the herbs,
writers for alternative weeklies, disc jockeys on college stations,
salespeople in retro clothing shops, tattoo artists and those they tattoo,
poets, artists, musicians, novelists, and the hip, the pierced and the
lonely."

> video store clerks, tattoo artists, [failed] poets, artists, musicians,
> novelists, and the hip [/failed], the lonely


Like Ebert, I'm no snob, but does this list sound like it's trying to
describe healthy, fulfilled, successful people?

The relation to the book is that in the book, the other two guys in the
store are much better friends of the Cusack character than they are in the
film. And the Cusack character (in the book) recognizes that his two friends
are dragging him down and substituting their list making and obsessiveness
for real life. Sound familiar?

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

So what's your idea of someone who's not a loser?

How about some guy who gets up every morning at 5:30 AM, commutes into
NYC for 75 minutes each way (back and forth), breaks his balls on some
stupid job he hates all to support his wife and 4 kids that he barely
ever sees. He gets home every night at 7:00 PM, slams down some shit
dinner, and then nods off to sleep.

Is he a "winner" in your eyes?

Don't know about you, but I'd much rather be one of the record clerks
in Rob's store than to be the guy I described above.

List making does not equate to unsuccesful. Neither does
obsessiveness. Some of the most succesful people around are
exceedingly obsessive.

[Travis_Trite]

> > The relation to the book is that in the book, the other two guys in the
> > store are much better friends of the Cusack character than they are in
> > the
> > film. And the Cusack character (in the book) recognizes that his two
> > friends
> > are dragging him down and substituting their list making and
> > obsessiveness
> > for real life. Sound familiar?
>
> So what's your idea of someone who's not a loser?
>
> How about some guy who gets up every morning at 5:30 AM, commutes into
> NYC for 75 minutes each way (back and forth), breaks his balls on some
> stupid job he hates all to support his wife and 4 kids that he barely
> ever sees. He gets home every night at 7:00 PM, slams down some shit
> dinner, and then nods off to sleep.
>
> Is he a "winner" in your eyes?
>
> Don't know about you, but I'd much rather be one of the record clerks
> in Rob's store than to be the guy I described above.
>
> List making does not equate to unsuccesful. Neither does
> obsessiveness. Some of the most succesful people around are
> exceedingly obsessive.
>

I concede. Your analysis of the film, of Ebert's review, and of life
captures reality better than mine does.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

Thank you.

There's "reality" and then there's what we're "supposed to do."

My late Uncle Buzzy Lubinsky once summed it up nicely. When my brother
was telling him, about 30 years ago, about the job he had gotten at RJ
Reynolds, Buzzy said,

"It's a good job.......except you have to be there."

[Dean F.]

On Aug 23, 8:48 pm, The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:

> Regards,
> Kevin "The Hack" Mark

BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!! I love it!

[Tim]

On Aug 23, 4:23 pm, poisoned rose <pro...@poisonedrose.com> wrote:
> PS  What is this off-topic puke doing in a 60s music newsgroup?

Trollin-trollin-trollin down the wrong river.

[Tim]

On Aug 23, 9:25 pm, The Bloomfield Bloviator <savo...@verizon.net>
wrote:

You, no doubt, are in on the personal id info of PR in another google
group, you jackass swine.

[Tim]

On Aug 23, 9:30 pm, The Bloomfield Bloviator <savo...@verizon.net>
wrote:

What people, you fucking transparent sock puppet?

[Tim]

On Aug 23, 3:48 pm, The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
> Just sent an email to Kevin Mark....
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> Kevin, my name is Bruce Grossberg. I am a fan of your music.
>
> I thought you might want to know. I mentioned in a newsgroup that your
> record, "If Your Phone Don't Ring," was one of my favorite records of
> recent years. This schmuck who posts there, Eric Broome, who calls
> himself "Poisoned Rose," is a small time rock critic who sometimes
> writes album reviews for some magazines that cover alternative rock
> music. He listened to your music and then called you "A hack who never
> had an original idea in his life."
>
> Here's is the link to Eric Broome's website.
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~elbroome/
>
> He is some sort of a failed musician also. Just in case you ever come
> into contact with this twirp, you should know what he said about you.
>
> BG

Someone contact the Pentagon. This thread/feud needs to be nuked asap.

[Tim]

From another group..from Phil er Bruce?
"He'll be 47 on the same day I turn 55 next month."
Nuff said.

[Dean F.]

On Aug 24, 2:30 pm, The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:

> So what's your idea of someone who's not a loser?
>
> How about some guy who gets up every morning at 5:30 AM, commutes into
> NYC for 75 minutes each way (back and forth), breaks his balls on some
> stupid job he hates all to support his wife and 4 kids that he barely
> ever sees. He gets home every night at 7:00 PM, slams down some shit
> dinner, and then nods off to sleep.
>
> Is he a "winner" in your eyes?

Peneny would think so.

[xpen...@gmail.com]

On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:57:33 -0400, "DianeE"
<Tired...@SorryFolks.com> wrote:

>
>"poisoned rose" <pro...@poisonedrose.com> wrote in message

>news:prose9-E76D91....@news.eternal-september.org...
>> The Bloomfield Bloviator <Sav...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> What are you talking about? Didn't you see the thread she [meaning me]
>>> started in
>>> the 50s group the other day....
>>
>> I'm sure she bites her tongue with you on a daily basis.
>---------------
>I resent your assumptions about me and about my relationship with Bruce.

>
>For your information I am preoccupied with other things right now, like
>politics, my job, my health, and the Honey Boo Boo show.

WTF is HBB show? A reality show about Denny's family?

>The Marc-and-Eric
>Show we've been treated to lately here is mildly amusing, and about on a
>level with Honey Boo Boo. I can watch fat redneck girls jumping into a mud
>puddle, or I can watch you and Catone hit each other over the head with
>water balloons. Or I can, and often do, ignore the whole thing and play
>"Lickin' Stick" by James Brown. Something to which you ought to listen.
>

>DianeE
>

[DianeE]

<xpen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2kbh381splps460p4...@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:57:33 -0400, "DianeE"
> <Tired...@SorryFolks.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"poisoned rose" <pro...@poisonedrose.com> wrote in message
>>news:prose9-E76D91....@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> The Bloomfield Bloviator <Sav...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> What are you talking about? Didn't you see the thread she [meaning me]
>>>> started in
>>>> the 50s group the other day....
>>>
>>> I'm sure she bites her tongue with you on a daily basis.
>>---------------
>>I resent your assumptions about me and about my relationship with Bruce.
>>
>>For your information I am preoccupied with other things right now, like
>>politics, my job, my health, and the Honey Boo Boo show.
>
> WTF is HBB show? A reality show about Denny's family?

----------------
It's about a family of Georgia crackers. Has to be seen to be believed.
I'm not really preoccupied with it, that was a joke about the now-closed
Marc & Eric Show.

DianeE

[xpen...@gmail.com]

More so than one who spends their day making lists, snooping into
others lives, gambling, scouring the internet for penis pictures etc.

[Travis_Trite]

> Ebert blew my mind recently with a 30-years-later reevaluation of the
> Graduate. He's not nearly as "on" with this review.
>
> Though it's fiction, you might be able to tolerate the High Fidelity book,
> if you haven't read it.

This pivotal movie that defines Bloviator's whole existence.

The book has a lot more music-list-making, music discussion, taste
discussion than the movie.

But Bloviator's still not interested, because he's a putz.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On Aug 25, 1:39 pm, xpene...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 22:00:43 -0700 (PDT), "Dean F."
>

> <soulexpr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 24, 2:30 pm, The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >> So what's your idea of someone who's not a loser?
>
> >> How about some guy who gets up every morning at 5:30 AM, commutes into
> >> NYC for 75 minutes each way (back and forth), breaks his balls on some
> >> stupid job he hates all to support his wife and 4 kids that he barely
> >> ever sees. He gets home every night at 7:00 PM, slams down some shit
> >> dinner, and then nods off to sleep.
>
> >> Is he a "winner" in your eyes?
>
> >Peneny would think so.
>

> More so than one who spends their day snooping into others lives,

Says the guy who snooped around for pictures of me to set up an
unauthorized webpage about ME.

[Taliesyn]

The Bloomfield Bloviator <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in
news:919bd261-0e55-4dea...@l9g2000vbj.googlegroups.com:

You had a webpage made in your honor? And here I thought nobody loved you!

-Taliesyn

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

Don't need to read it, I lived it long before the book was written.

[xpen...@gmail.com]

Its my tribute to you and all your handsomeness. Snooping? You
personally gave the one of the Lutheran bar mitzvah boy. All the
pictures were known to all the regulars of the 50s group.

[xpen...@gmail.com]

Bruce, how much of your income do you not report to the IRS?

[Travis_Trite]

> > The book has a lot more music-list-making, music discussion, taste
> > discussion than the movie.
> >
> > But Bloviator's still not interested, because he's a putz.
>
> Don't need to read it, I lived it long before the book was written.

More lies. I think you DID read the book. The key question in unraveling
that lie is, How many times did you see the movie?

[Jeff]

On Aug 23, 6:43 pm, The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:

> On Aug 23, 7:21 pm, poisoned rose <pro...@poisonedrose.com> wrote:

> > The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>

> > > Just sent an email to Kevin Mark....
>
> > > ----------------------------------------------------
>
> > > Kevin, my name is Bruce Grossberg. I am a fan of your music.
>
> > > I thought you might want to know. I mentioned in a newsgroup that your
> > > record, "If Your Phone Don't Ring," was one of my favorite records of
> > > recent years. This schmuck who posts there, Eric Broome, who calls
> > > himself "Poisoned Rose," is a small time rock critic who sometimes
> > > writes album reviews for some magazines that cover alternative rock
> > > music. He listened to your music and then called you "A hack who never
> > > had an original idea in his life."
>
> > > Here's is the link to Eric Broome's website.
>
> > >http://home.earthlink.net/~elbroome/
>
> > > He is some sort of a failed musician also. Just in case you ever come
> > > into contact with this twirp, you should know what he said about you.
>
> > > BG
>

> > Anyone who reads this post will realize that you are seriously sick in
> > the head. As in you really shouldn't be living unsupervised.
>
> Good thing YOU'RE not a judge.
>
> > Do you have a police record?
>
> No, do you?
>
> What are you so upset about?  You're a (would be) rock critic, right?
> You can't be afraid of what an act that you write about thinks when
> they see it. If you're gonna shoot your mouth (or your keyboard) off
> about someone, that person should know about it.

I've been following this thread. I don't understand why that person
should know about it? Every musician knows there are people
who don't like their music, so I don't understand why you felt
the need to email this guy about it? It's kind of like what kids
do in junior high. They'll walk up to you and tell you about
people who don't like you, and the things they said about
you. It doesn't make that person feel good. It makes them
feel bad.

Maybe next time
> you'll think twice before you trash a musician merely because you want
> to attack someone else's taste.

Why isn't he entitled to his opinion? I put up a video one time of
my cover of Yesterday, and he didn't like it. It didn't bother me.

> > Hard to imagine you not having some sort of
> > physically violent encounter with someone, at least once.
>
> I think I had a fight with another kid in the locker room back in
> about 9th grade maybe.
>
>  > Since virtually *anyone* is more of an adult than you are, I'd like
> to
>
> > think KM's reaction will be just a "Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent
> > folks" shrug.
>
> Maybe not. He might contact you and ask for a clarification of your
> comments.

Why would he? It's just one person who doesn't like his music.
No big deal.

> > But meanwhile, you're callously sacrificing HIS feelings
> > just to satisfy your own demented bloodlust.
>
> If I was him I'd want to know about any negative comments that anyone
> made about my music, or about me.

I don't think most musicians would want to hear this information, and
if they were interested, they could read/hear about it "on their
own", online or where ever. They wouldn't appreciate someone
emailing them about someone else they knew, not liking their
music.

You couldn;t stop at attacking his
> music. He had to get personal, which is a no-no for a professional
> journalist, which, of course, you are not.

He doesn't have to be a professional journalist to give an opinion
on someone's music.

> > Do you think a struggling musician will be pleased to hear that someone thinks his music is lame?
>
> You're the one who said his music was lame, not me. What makes you
> think he is struggling?  I'd say he's a much more succesful musician
> than you are.

> When was your last gig?
>
> > And do you really think he is as much of a headcase as you are, such
> > that he's going to take obsessive note of my name and plot to wreak
> > "revenge" on me someday?
>
> Doubtful. I would think he would dismiss you as frustrated musician /
> small time would be rock critic who can't even get arrested.

Since you feel that he would dismiss him...therefore not being that
important, why did you email him? I don't understand.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On Aug 26, 5:03 pm, Jeff <quickservice...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 23, 6:43 pm, The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> I've been following this thread. I don't understand why that person
> should know about it? Every musician knows there are people
> who don't like their music, so I don't understand why you felt
> the need to email this guy about it? It's kind of like what kids
> do in junior high. They'll walk up to you and tell you about
> people who don't like you, and the things they said about
> you. It doesn't make that person feel good. It makes them
> feel bad.

Sounds like the same logic that a cheating husband uses when he
doesn't tell his wife what he did, because he wants to "spare her
feelings."

If people want to shoot their mouths off about another person's work,
they should be willing to say it to their face,rather than hiding
behind anonimity.

>  Maybe next time
>
> > you'll think twice before you trash a musician merely because you want
> > to attack someone else's taste.
>
> Why isn't he entitled to his opinion?

He's entitles to his opinion, but the person he's giving his opinion
on is entitled to hear his opinion.

> I put up a video one time of
> my cover of Yesterday, and he didn't like it. It didn't bother me.

Not liking it is quite a difference from calling you "A hack who never
had an origibnal idea in his life."

> He had to get personal, which is a no-no for a professional
> > journalist, which, of course, you are not.
>
> He doesn't have to be a professional journalist to give an opinion
> on someone's music.

Again, an opinion on someone's music is much different than calling
him "A hack who never had an original idea in his life."

[Jeff]

On Aug 26, 5:04 pm, The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Aug 26, 5:03 pm, Jeff <quickservice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 23, 6:43 pm, The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > I've been following this thread. I don't understand why that person
> > should know about it? Every musician knows there are people
> > who don't like their music, so I don't understand why you felt
> > the need to email this guy about it? It's kind of like what kids
> > do in junior high. They'll walk up to you and tell you about
> > people who don't like you, and the things they said about
> > you. It doesn't make that person feel good. It makes them
> > feel bad.
>
> Sounds like the same logic that a cheating husband uses when he
> doesn't tell his wife what he did, because he wants to "spare her
> feelings."

No, that's not the same thing. I don't know how to get you to
understand that someone doesn't want you to email them
to say somebody you know....thinks their music sucks.
It's nasty, cause it comes off to that person as "you"
are wanting to hurt them, and they'll wonder why?
After all, it's "you" who is giving them that message,
not the other person.

> If people want to shoot their mouths off about another person's work,
> they should be willing to say it to their face,rather than hiding
> behind anonimity.

The thing is, they're "not required" to say something to their face.
They can still have their opinions whether we like it or not.
Can you even imagine if you and the rest of the world sent
off these types of messages to say...Paul McCartney? He
wouldn't get any work done, wouldn't have time, and
wouldn't want to hear it. You sure aren't doing the
musicians any favor, but you are wasting their time,
if the message is even read at all.

> >  Maybe next time
>
> > > you'll think twice before you trash a musician merely because you want
> > > to attack someone else's taste.
>
> > Why isn't he entitled to his opinion?
>
> He's entitles to his opinion, but the person he's giving his opinion
> on is entitled to hear his opinion.

No, but I suppose if you want to continue, you will. All I have
to say is, be prepared for any rude comments that might
come your direction.

> > I put up a video one time of
> > my cover of Yesterday, and he didn't like it. It didn't bother me.
>
> Not liking it is quite a difference from calling you "A hack who never
> had an origibnal idea in his life."

Most of us have had to deal with people who have said much
worse about us than that. We survived.

> > He had to get personal, which is a no-no for a professional
> > > journalist, which, of course, you are not.
>
> > He doesn't have to be a professional journalist to give an opinion
> > on someone's music.
>
> Again, an opinion on someone's music is much different than calling
> him "A hack who never had an original idea in his life."

Let's see, how do I respond to this? If I remember correctly,
this guy just plays the blues? Okay, first of all, I have never
heard this musician play. I can only say that It's "his opinion"
that he never had an original idea in his life "maybe" because
the blues have been covered so much. I suppose you wouldn't
have any idea what it's like to play in just a blues band, but it's
very boring if you know so much more about music than just
the blues. That may have been what he was really trying to say?
To end this, why do you care about others opinions so much?
It's none of our business what others think of us.

[Taliesyn]

The Bloomfield Bloviator <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in news:e84b0217-a2e7-
4dbf-8a8f-b...@u19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com:

> Just sent an email to Kevin Mark....
>

Okay, I was curious so I was googling who this, now "infamous", Kevin Mark
musician is. Turns out he appears to be Canadian, though I have no
recollection of ever hearing his name mentioned. What city is he based in?

-Taliesyn

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On Aug 26, 9:13 pm, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
> The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in news:e84b0217-a2e7-
> 4dbf-8a8f-bf4e4ec84...@u19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com:

>
> > Just sent an email to Kevin Mark....
>
> Okay, I was curious so I was googling who this, now "infamous", Kevin Mark
> musician is. Turns out he appears to be Canadian, though I have no
> recollection of ever hearing his name mentioned. What city is he based in?

I think Montreal.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On Aug 26, 8:42 pm, Jeff <quickservice...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 26, 5:04 pm, The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Sounds like the same logic that a cheating husband uses when he
> > doesn't tell his wife what he did, because he wants to "spare her
> > feelings."
>
> No, that's not the same thing. I don't know how to get you to
> understand that someone doesn't want you to email them
> to say somebody you know....thinks their music sucks.

Kevin was very happy to hear from me. We became fast email friends and
went back and forth to each other for over an hour.

> It's nasty, cause it comes off to that person as "you"
> are wanting to hurt them, and they'll wonder why?
> After all, it's "you" who is giving them that message,
> not the other person.

Kevin was savvy enough not to shoot the messenger.

> > If people want to shoot their mouths off about another person's work,
> > they should be willing to say it to their face,rather than hiding
> > behind anonimity.
>
> The thing is, they're "not required" to say something to their face.

They are if I have anything to say about it.

> They can still have their opinions whether we like it or not.
> Can you even imagine if you and the rest of the world sent
> off these types of messages to say...Paul McCartney?

What of it?

> He
> wouldn't get any work done, wouldn't have time, and
> wouldn't want to hear it. You sure aren't doing the
> musicians any favor, but you are wasting their time,
> if the message is even read at all.

Clearly it was read, as he answered me back within a couple of hours.
But your analogy is preposterous. Kevin Mark has a public website with
a contact icon. He's asking for emails. Paul McCartly is not.

> > >  Maybe next time
>
> > > > you'll think twice before you trash a musician merely because you want
> > > > to attack someone else's taste.
>
> > > Why isn't he entitled to his opinion?
>

> > He's entitled to his opinion, but the person he's giving his opinion

> > on is entitled to hear his opinion.
>
> No, but I suppose if you want to continue, you will. All I have
> to say is, be prepared for any rude comments that might
> come your direction.

I think I can handle that.

> > > I put up a video one time of
> > > my cover of Yesterday, and he didn't like it. It didn't bother me.
>
> > Not liking it is quite a difference from calling you "A hack who never
> > had an origibnal idea in his life."
>
> Most of us have had to deal with people who have said much
> worse about us than that. We survived.

As will Kevin.

> > > He had to get personal, which is a no-no for a professional
> > > > journalist, which, of course, you are not.
>
> > > He doesn't have to be a professional journalist to give an opinion
> > > on someone's music.
>
> > Again, an opinion on someone's music is much different than calling
> > him "A hack who never had an original idea in his life."
>
> Let's see, how do I respond to this? If I remember correctly,
> this guy just plays the blues? Okay, first of all, I have never
> heard this musician play. I can only say that It's "his opinion"
> that he never had an original idea in his life "maybe" because
> the blues have been covered so much.

"In his life" is a bit strong, wouldn't you say? How could he know
about the entire life of a guy like this? Kevin said so in one of
his replies, which I posted here.

< I suppose you wouldn't
> have any idea what it's like to play in just a blues band, but it's
> very boring if you know so much more about music than just
> the blues.

Speak for yourself. One man's "boring" is another man's "incredibly
exciting."

> That may have been what he was really trying to say?
> To end this, why do you care about others opinions so much?
> It's none of our business what others think of us.

It is when the comment was really made more to insult my taste than to
critique Kevin's music.

[DianeE]

"Jeff" <quickse...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2d0d5ac3-1b52-42de...@r14g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...

.... I suppose you wouldn't

have any idea what it's like to play in just a blues band, but it's
very boring if you know so much more about music than just

the blues. ....
--------------------
If you can use the phrase "just a blues band" as contemptuously as you just
used it....then you shouldn't be playing in a blues band!!!!!

DianeE

[Jeff]

On Aug 26, 9:25 pm, "DianeE" <TiredOfS...@SorryFolks.com> wrote:
> "Jeff" <quickservice...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Well, thing is, Diane, I don't play in a blues band. Back in 1997 I
ran
across some guys that I went to high school with in 1973. We didn't
play together that often but they contacted me in 1997 and we
had a reunion. It was fun for 2 nights and we even video taped it.
After that, they asked if I wanted to play parties? I said no
along with declining their offer to be their bass player. They
never contacted me again and that was fine. With the blues,
the only thing that wouldn't get boring is if you're the lead
guitarist. I don't mind a little of the blues but when I suggested
we do "Hey Jude"....one of the members of the band is seen
pouting, and I've already had years of that with musicians
refusing to play any Beatles tunes. And that's the story of
the blues..........

[Dean F.]

On Aug 26, 10:25 pm, "DianeE" <TiredOfS...@SorryFolks.com> wrote:

> "Jeff" <quickservice...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> .... I suppose you wouldn't
> have any idea what it's like to play in just a blues band, but it's
> very boring if you know so much more about music than just
> the blues. ....
> --------------------
> If you can use the phrase "just a blues band" as contemptuously as you just
> used it....then you shouldn't be playing in a blues band!!!!!
>
> DianeE

I have the strangest feeling that Jeff is actually our boy Broome in
disguise.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

No, Jeff's been around before.

[Dean F.]

On Aug 26, 11:53 pm, The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:

> > I have the strangest feeling that Jeff is actually our boy Broome in
> > disguise.
>
> No, Jeff's been around before.

Oh, OK.

You have to admit, though, it was a pretty good guess. After all, Jeff
is being the same kind of pompous asshole that Broomy was!

[Jeff]

Why is that, if you don't mind me asking?

[Jeff]

He lives in California somewhere, (as you said in the Beatles group)
and I live in Topeka, Kansas. Yes, I've been here before looking
for 2 rare 45's, and I found them. I would like to find them in
better condition and remixed and remastered, but it won't ever
happen. Speaking of 60's music, do you know where I could
just listen to Badfinger boots online? Thanks.

[Jeff]

I haven't said one unkind word to you, and I won't.

[BobbyM]

You can't listen to them online but I've seen a few on Hunger City (a
bootleg torrent site).

[Jeff]

I don't know if it's a good idea to go to these types of sites.
About 10 years ago, I did find a place to listen online,
but I don't remember what it was and I was on Webtv
at that time. You could only hear 30 second samples
of music with Webtv. Thanks for the info.

[Travis_Trite]

ha ha

> ... logic ...


... left-2, right-1, left-3, right-2, left-1 ...


Is guilt a persistent state for the robot mind? Never or Always?

The smart money is on Always

[Taliesyn]

The Bloomfield Bloviator <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in

news:f8804c1b-3db6-4ebc...@l9g2000vbj.googlegroups.com:

Oh this is getting better. So am I. Never heard of him.

-Taliesyn

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On Aug 27, 7:18 am, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:

Not surprising, I don't think you've ever indicated that you like
blues.

Check out his website, he's won numerous awards up there.

http://www.kevinmark.com/

[Taliesyn]

The Bloomfield Bloviator <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in

news:30e122f0-cd87-42d2...@e29g2000vbm.googlegroups.com:

> On Aug 27, 7:18 am, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote
>> innews:f8804c1b-3db6-4eb

> c-aa90-59...@l9g2000vbj.googlegroups.com:

>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 26, 9:13 pm, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> >> The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in
>> >> news:e84b0217-a2e7-
>> >> 4dbf-8a8f-bf4e4ec84...@u19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> > Just sent an email to Kevin Mark....
>>
>> >> Okay, I was curious so I was googling who this, now "infamous",
>> >> Kevin Mar
>> > k
>> >> musician is. Turns out he appears to be Canadian, though I have no
>> >> recollection of ever hearing his name mentioned. What city is he
>> >> based in
>> > ?
>>
>> > I think Montreal.
>>
>> Oh this is getting better. So am I. Never heard of him.
>
> Not surprising, I don't think you've ever indicated that you like
> blues.
>

Not the point. We do have radio, TV, Newspapers, E-Talk ...
His name doesn't ring a bell - meaning he's not "talk of the town".

> Check out his website, he's won numerous awards up there.
>
> http://www.kevinmark.com/
>

I'm not denying he's won accolades here and there. But he's
still a minor player. When he gets to the level of an
"Arcade Fire" (another Montrealer), I'm sure I'll hear about
him. I'm not here to pass judgment on him, I leave that for
you and Broome to work out. . . ;)

-Taliesyn

[Jeff]

On Aug 26, 9:06 pm, The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Aug 26, 8:42 pm, Jeff <quickservice...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 26, 5:04 pm, The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > Sounds like the same logic that a cheating husband uses when he
> > > doesn't tell his wife what he did, because he wants to "spare her
> > > feelings."
>
> > No, that's not the same thing. I don't know how to getyouto
> > understand that someone doesn't wantyouto email them

> > to say somebodyyouknow....thinks their music sucks.

>
> Kevin was very happy to hear from me. We became fast email friends and
> went back and forth to each other for over an hour.
>
> > It's nasty, cause it comes off to that person as "you"
> > are wanting to hurt them, and they'll wonder why?
> > After all, it's "you" who is giving them that message,
> > not the other person.
>
> Kevin was savvy enough not to shoot the messenger.
>
> > > If people want to shoot their mouths off about another person's work,
> > > they should be willing to say it to their face,rather than hiding
> > > behind anonimity.
>
> > The thing is, they're "not required" to say something to their face.
>
> They are if I have anything to say about it.
>
> > They can still have their opinions whether we like it or not.

> > Canyoueven imagine ifyouand the rest of the world sent

> > off these types of messages to say...Paul McCartney?
>
> What of it?
>
> > He
> > wouldn't get any work done, wouldn't have time, and

> > wouldn't want to hear it.Yousure aren't doing the
> > musicians any favor, butyouare wasting their time,

> > if the message is even read at all.
>
> Clearly it was read, as he answered me back within a couple of hours.
> But your analogy is preposterous. Kevin Mark has a public website with
> a contact icon. He's asking for emails. Paul McCartly is not.
>
> > > >  Maybe next time
>
> > > > >you'll think twice beforeyoutrash a musician merely becauseyouwant
> > > > > to attack someone else's taste.
>
> > > > Why isn't he entitled to his opinion?
>
> > > He's entitled to his opinion, but the person he's giving his opinion
> > > on is entitled to hear his opinion.
>

> > No, but I suppose ifyouwant to continue,youwill. All I have

> > to say is, be prepared for any rude comments that might
> > come your direction.
>
> I think I can handle that.
>
> > > > I put up a video one time of

> > > >mycover of Yesterday, and hedidn'tlike it. Itdidn'tbother me.
>
> > > Not liking it is quite a difference from callingyou"A hack who never

> > > had an origibnal idea in his life."
>
> > Most of us have had to deal with people who have said much
> > worse about us than that. We survived.
>
> As will Kevin.
>
> > > > He had to get personal, which is a no-no for a professional

> > > > > journalist, which, of course,youare not.

>
> > > > He doesn't have to be a professional journalist to give an opinion
> > > > on someone's music.
>
> > > Again, an opinion on someone's music is much different than calling
> > > him "A hack who never had an original idea in his life."
>
> > Let's see, how do I respond to this? If I remember correctly,
> > this guy just plays the blues? Okay, first of all, I have never
> > heard this musician play. I can only say that It's "his opinion"
> > that he never had an original idea in his life "maybe" because
> > the blues have been covered so much.
>

> "In his life" is a bit strong, wouldn'tyousay?  How could he know

> about the entire life of a guy like this?   Kevin said so in one of
> his replies, which I posted here.
>

> < I supposeyouwouldn't

>
> > have any idea what it's like to play in just a blues band, but it's

> > very boring ifyouknow so much more about music than just

> > the blues.
>
> Speak for yourself. One man's "boring" is another man's "incredibly
> exciting."
>
> > That may have been what he was really trying to say?

> > To end this, why doyoucare about others opinions so much?

> > It's none of our business what others think of us.
>

> It is when the comment was really made more to insultmytaste than to
> critique Kevin's music.

Oh, brother. So you really feel insulted when someone disagrees
with your taste in music???? Thanks for letting me know what
this is REALLY about. Jeez.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

On Aug 27, 11:00 am, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:

> The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote innews:30e122f0-cd87-42d2...@e29g2000vbm.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 27, 7:18 am, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
> >> The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote
> >> innews:f8804c1b-3db6-4eb

> > c-aa90-59830ffd1...@l9g2000vbj.googlegroups.com:

>
> >> > On Aug 26, 9:13 pm, Taliesyn <talies...@netscape.net> wrote:
> >> >> The Bloomfield Bloviator <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in
> >> >> news:e84b0217-a2e7-
> >> >> 4dbf-8a8f-bf4e4ec84...@u19g2000yqo.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> >> > Just sent an email to Kevin Mark....
>
> >> >> Okay, I was curious so I was googling who this, now "infamous",
> >> >> Kevin Mar
> >> > k
> >> >> musician is. Turns out he appears to be Canadian, though I have no
> >> >> recollection of ever hearing his name mentioned. What city is he
> >> >> based in
> >> > ?
>
> >> > I think Montreal.
>
> >> Oh this is getting better. So am I. Never heard of him.
>
> > Not surprising, I don't think you've ever indicated that you like
> > blues.
>
> Not the point. We do have radio, TV, Newspapers, E-Talk ...
> His name doesn't ring a bell - meaning he's not "talk of the town".
>
> > Check out his website, he's won numerous awards up there.
>
> >http://www.kevinmark.com/
>
> I'm not denying he's won accolades here and there. But he's
> still a minor player.

No one is saying that he's having radio hits up there. It's a blues
act. He's purposely NOT sounding contemporary.....why do you think I
like him?

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

> > It is when the comment was really made more to insult my taste than to

> > critique Kevin's music.
>
> Oh, brother. So you really feel insulted when someone disagrees
> with your taste in music????

No, I wasn't insulted, but if someone is going to take their
disagreement with my taste to that level, and then start calling me
"sick" and a "psychopath" in every post he makes, we're gonna have a
problem. Then when he brings my girlfriend into it, that problem is
gonna get worse.

BTW, I'll take your non answer to the other question I've now asked
you twice to mean that you are indeed only really interested in white
guitar oriented rock.

[Jeff]

You just said you were insulted, and now you're changing your
story.

but if someone is going to take their
> disagreement with my taste to that level, and then start calling me
> "sick" and a "psychopath" in every post he makes, we're gonna have a
> problem. Then when he brings my girlfriend into it, that problem is
> gonna get worse.

Whatever.

[The Bloomfield Bloviator]

No. I said the coment was made "more to insult my taste." I did not
say that it succeded in doing so.

>  but if someone is going to take their
>
> > disagreement with my taste to that level, and then start calling me
> > "sick" and a "psychopath" in every post he makes, we're gonna have a
> > problem. Then when he brings my girlfriend into it, that problem is
> > gonna get worse.
>
> Whatever.

Whatever, indeed.

[Travis_Trite]

> > Oh, brother. So you really feel insulted when someone disagrees
> > with your taste in music????

> No, I wasn't insulted, but if someone is going to take their
> disagreement with my taste to that level,


and then start calling me
> "sick" and a "psychopath" in every post he makes,

He didn't call you that in *every* post. I can see you taking it to this
extreme if it was every post, but it wasn't.




[Hint, dumbass: this post is a parody of this recent response of yours to
me:

> LOL.....He doesn't know if the Count Five have any other good songs.

You didn't ask me that. You just asked if they had more than one song?]

[Jeff]

On Aug 27, 11:39 am, "Travis_Trite" <Travis_Tr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Oh, brother. So you really feel insulted when someone disagrees
> > > with your taste in music????
> > No, I wasn't insulted, but if someone is going to take their
> > disagreement with my taste to that level,
>
> and then start calling me
>
> > "sick" and a "psychopath" in every post he makes,
>
> He didn't call you that in *every* post. I can see you taking it to this
> extreme if it was every post, but it wasn't.

This entire thing is just total nonsense, but if someone really
wants to waste their own life on something so trivial, I have no
desire to stop them. It's important to him and that's all that
matters.

[Travis_Trite]

> > He didn't call you that in *every* post. I can see you taking it to this
> > extreme if it was every post, but it wasn't.

> This entire thing is just total nonsense

Thanks for being the voice of sanity, ie, non-nonsense

> but if someone really
> wants to waste their own life on something so trivial, I have no
> desire to stop them.

Don't speak too soon on that

> It's important to him

You and I know what's important to him better than he does, ie, he lacks
self-knowledge


> and that's all that matters ...

... is what's coming out of the speakers

[xpen...@gmail.com]

On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 08:34:52 -0700 (PDT), The Bloomfield Bloviator
<Sav...@aol.com> wrote:

>No, I wasn't insulted, but if someone is going to take their
>disagreement with my taste to that level, and then start calling me
>"sick" and a "psychopath"

Bruce, you can't handle the truth. As obsessed as you are with other
peoples lives I wouldn't be surprised if you are a peeping Tom. You
are one sick person who needs to get professional help. Your GF needs
to get you a referral ASAP.

> in every post he makes, we're gonna have a
>problem. Then when he brings my girlfriend into it, that problem is
>gonna get worse.

Gee aren't you chivalrous.