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Uni

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Jan 2, 2010, 7:20:16 AM1/2/10
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I'm going to add audio editing tutorials to my web site, that I
developed, but I thought some participants here might be interested. For
this tutorial I'm using Audacity 1.2.6, but it's been recently revamped
- Freeware.

A METHOD TO "WIDEN" STEREO AND/OR REMOVE VOCALS:
Results will vary pending how the song was mixed to Stereo. This method
suppresses common audio content of Left and Right Stereo channels. You
can also suppress/remove vocals with this method, assuming vocals are
shared about the Left and Right Stereo channels, by moving Individual
Track Balance controls near or at Center position in Step 10 (below).
Use Caution - don't go overboard and compare results afterwards with
Speakers if initially using Headphones! As always, Have Fun!

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/audacity-1.gif

Step 1.) File Menu - Open the Audio File - .MP3, .WAV, etc.
Step 2.) Select it by clicking on its Left sidebar
Step 3.) Duplicate waveform from the Edit Menu
Step 4.) Select upper waveform and Invert from Effect Menu
Step 5.) Select bottom waveform and Split Stereo Track (Left sidebar)
Step 6.) Select upper individual Track, make it Right Stereo Channel
Step 7.) Select lower individual Track, make it Left Stereo Channel
Step 8.) Move Balance control of individual Tracks to where shown
Step 9.) Play the Audio File
Step 10.) Slide Balance control of individual Tracks towards center
Step 11.) File Menu - Save the Audio File - .MP3, .WAV, etc.

Uni - http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/

Uni

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Jan 2, 2010, 9:23:54 AM1/2/10
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Troubleshooting:

No Audio Output: You possibly forgot to assign/switch the Right/Left of
the Individual Tracks. Since the two track waveform is Inverted, but the
Individual Tracks aren't, the net result will be zero audio output (they
cancel one another).

Sounds Different: Remember, what is common in both Left and Right Stereo
channels is suppressed. So if a bass guitar, for example, is common to
both Stereo channels, the net result sound will have less bass.

Upcoming Tutorials:
How To Swap Contents of Left, Center and Right
How To Center Vocals w/o Sacrificing Volume

Uni

Dean F.

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Jan 3, 2010, 1:11:04 AM1/3/10
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Simple methods for simple minds.

Uni

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Jan 3, 2010, 2:42:32 AM1/3/10
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Dean F. wrote:
> Simple methods for simple minds.

If I produced your radio show, the fisrt thing I'd do is throw your CDs
and records in the trash. That would be a big help!!!!

Uni :-)

Elliott

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Jan 3, 2010, 1:19:11 PM1/3/10
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Uni <no.e...@no.email.invalid> wrote in news:4B3F3A00.8030101
@no.email.invalid:

>
> Step 1.) File Menu - Open the Audio File - .MP3, .WAV, etc.
> Step 2.) Select it by clicking on its Left sidebar
> Step 3.) Duplicate waveform from the Edit Menu
> Step 4.) Select upper waveform and Invert from Effect Menu
> Step 5.) Select bottom waveform and Split Stereo Track (Left sidebar)
> Step 6.) Select upper individual Track, make it Right Stereo Channel
> Step 7.) Select lower individual Track, make it Left Stereo Channel
> Step 8.) Move Balance control of individual Tracks to where shown
> Step 9.) Play the Audio File
> Step 10.) Slide Balance control of individual Tracks towards center
> Step 11.) File Menu - Save the Audio File - .MP3, .WAV, etc.
>

I see you have an exact 11-step procedure. I always wondered exactly how
you managed to destroy so many good tracks.

Uni

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:02:47 PM1/3/10
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I have Software, you have Hard head!!

Move on, stereo rookie!

Uni :-)

Uni

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Jan 4, 2010, 10:56:15 PM1/4/10
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Would appreciate if some would confirm my instructions actually work
before I post it on my site.

How it can be used. This had weaker (extreme L&R) vocals initially:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/bigkiss.mp3

Uni

BobbyM

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Jan 5, 2010, 12:09:30 AM1/5/10
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"Uni" <no.e...@no.email.invalid> wrote in message
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> Would appreciate if some would confirm my instructions actually work
> before I post it on my site.

You've proved time & time again that it doesn't work.

Uni

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Jan 5, 2010, 1:34:46 AM1/5/10
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I work; you're on welfare!!!

Uni :-)

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Mister Charlie

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Jan 5, 2010, 12:39:39 AM1/5/10
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It really is a messy and rather convoluted way to attempt to smear the sound
around the speaker fields. Inverting the first one, for instance...you're
introducing all manner of phasing and cancellation possibilities, and why
bother adding the second stereo track then separating it?

You could simply import a mono source (or joint stereo), use a stereo swide
eparation plug-in effect (they are freely available for Audacity) and let
the program do it, in about 3 steps. And it would likely sound better than
what comes out of your method (but just as likely not).

Some songs simply respond better to frequency changes and wide fake
separation, others will never sound good that way.

Not a personal attack this time, Uni, ajust simple observation and answer
to your question.


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Uni

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Jan 5, 2010, 10:25:14 PM1/5/10
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Mister Charlie wrote:
> It really is a messy and rather convoluted way to attempt to smear the
> sound around the speaker fields. Inverting the first one, for
> instance...you're introducing all manner of phasing and cancellation
> possibilities, and why bother adding the second stereo track then
> separating it?
>
> You could simply import a mono source (or joint stereo), use a stereo
> swide eparation plug-in effect (they are freely available for Audacity)
> and let the program do it, in about 3 steps. And it would likely sound
> better than what comes out of your method (but just as likely not).
>
> Some songs simply respond better to frequency changes and wide fake
> separation, others will never sound good that way.
>
> Not a personal attack this time, Uni, ajust simple observation and
> answer to your question.

No, thanks, Charlie!! Very helpful!

Wait 'till you see how I rearrange Left, Center, Right sound. Not sure
any plug-in for that! :-)

Thanks and have a great New Year!

Uni

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