Raj, do we get us some Jewel King in this 1950 contest?
yougotl...@yahoo.com
December, of 1949, though; which would be a shame.
Somewhere on this Last.FM "Jewel King radio" sequence, you (anyone)
will find (or rather, hear) it:
Larry
Roger Ford
>Maybe not this one: 3 x 7 = 21, which I think was recorded in
>December, of 1949, though; which would be a shame.
>
I show this already released in December 1949 as well
ROGER FORD
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> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:35:31 -0700 (PDT), "yougotlucky...@yahoo.com"
>
> <yougotlucky...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Maybe not this one: 3 x 7 = 21, which I think was recorded in
> >December, of 1949, though; which would be a shame.
>
> I show this already released in December 1949 as well
>
> ROGER FORD
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adjective, there) record. It does show clearly that the development
what would be known as modern rhythm and blues (as we would come to
know it the 50's) was well underway. Ergo, you can't get every
important R&B record by simply cutting off at 1950.
50s
<yougotlucky...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 29, 9:05 am, maria...@bblueyonder.co.uk (Roger Ford) wrote:> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:35:31 -0700 (PDT), "yougotlucky...@yahoo.com"
>
> > <yougotlucky...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >Maybe not this one: 3 x 7 = 21, which I think was recorded in
> > >December, of 1949, though; which would be a shame.
>
> > I show this already released in December 1949 as well
>
> > ROGER FORD
> > -----------------------
>
> Have you heard it?
Is this a trick question?
Of course he's heard it. It was a huge hit.
RWC
Ford) wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:35:31 -0700 (PDT), "yougotl...@yahoo.com"
><yougotl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Maybe not this one: 3 x 7 = 21, which I think was recorded in
>>December, of 1949, though; which would be a shame.
>>
>I show this already released in December 1949 as well
>
(Thinking of The Ames Brothers "Rag Mop" - and some other famous
records well known to this group)
Perhaps we could have a 'special' contest featuring 1949 :-)
Geoff
yougotl...@yahoo.com
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:05:48 GMT, maria...@bblueyonder.co.uk (Roger
>
> Ford) wrote:
> >On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:35:31 -0700 (PDT), "yougotlucky...@yahoo.com"
> ><yougotlucky...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>Maybe not this one: 3 x 7 = 21, which I think was recorded in
> >>December, of 1949, though; which would be a shame.
>
> >I show this already released in December 1949 as well
>
> (Thinking of The Ames Brothers "Rag Mop" - and some other famous
> records well known to this group)
>
> Perhaps we could have a 'special' contest featuring 1949 :-)
>
> Geoff
It might be nice to all the way back to 1948, the best year argument
for the birth year of rock and roll, the first year to gestate some
everlasting hits (Good Rockin' Tonight and It's Too Soon To Know), but
I doubt there are enough people interested or knowledgeable about the
raw roots of rock and roll to make the effort tenable. I like some
of that music, (among a LOT of other things) but I'm sure I don't know
very much.
Larry
50s
<yougotlucky...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm sure I don't know very much.
>
> Larry
We FINALLY agree 100% on something.
yougotl...@yahoo.com
This is beside-itself intellectual snobbery at its overweening worst.
Greetings, Music Nazi
yougotl...@yahoo.com
dishonest:
such as this reply to a previous post of mine:
..................................................................................................................
You take my honest, unadorned, and straightforward comment out of
context.
Far be it for you to offer fair and balanced criticism, or much less,
an objective overview, when instead you can grandstand in the cause of
self-aggrandizement, peacock-style, at someone else's expense, when
opportunity proffers, even at the expense of a truer picture, if not
the truth itself.
The context when I said such a thing was from a background of either
owning or being familiar with a good number of R&B and blues records,
quite significant, from the pre-Elvis era, including:
Fat Man - Fats Domino
Lovey Dovey - The Clovers
He's a Real Gone Guy - Nellie Lutcher
Gloria - The Cadillacs
Three Blazers/Drifting Blues
Good Rockin' Tonight - Wynonie Harris
Mess Around - Ray Charles
Sixty Minute Man - The Dominoes
Feelin' Good - Little Junior's Blues Flames
Rollin' Stone - Muddy Waters
Shake Rattle & Roll - Joe Turner
Just Walkin' in the Rain - The Prisonaires
Get It - The Royals
High & Lonesome - Jimmy Reed
Shake a Hand - Faye Adams
Gone With the Wind - Lightnin' Hopkins
Such a Night - Clyde McPhatter & The Drifters
Moanin' at Midnight - Howlin' Wolf
My Song - Johnny Ace
Choo-Choo-Cha-Boogie - Louis Jordan
New Blowtop Blues - Dinah Washington
Baby Please - The Moonglows
Blue Monday - Smiley Lewis
Bobby Sox Blues - T-Bone Walker
Thornton Hound Dog - Willie Mae
Money Honey - Clyde McPhatter & The Drifters
Mean Old World - Little Walter
Work With Me Annie - The Royals/Midnighters
I'm Mad - Willie Mabon
Fat Daddy - Dinah Washington
Sunday Kind of Love - The Harptones
Please Don't Leave Me - Fats Domino
Crudup So Glad You're Mine - Arthur Big Boy
Sh-Boom - The Chords
Mystery Train - Little Junior Parker
I'm Your Hoochie Coochie Man - Muddy Waters
Hurry on Down - Nellie Lutcher
Saturday Night Fish Fry - Louis Jordan
Fool Fool Fool - The Clovers
Tweedle Dee - LaVern Baker
Glory of Love - The Five Keys
Train Kept a-Rollin' - Tiny Bradshaw
Nine Below Zero - Sonny Boy Williamson
Have Mercy Baby - The Dominoes
It Should Have Been Me - Ray Charles
Mama He Treats Your Daughter Mean - Ruth Brown
How Many More Years - Howlin' Wolf
Rocket 88 - Jackie Brenston
One Monkey Don' Stop No Show - Big Maybelle
Thinking About My Mother - Little Richard
Sexy Ways - The Midnighters
Fine Brown Frame - Nellie Lutcher
Black Night - Charles Brown
Chicken Shack Boogie - Amos Milburn
Ting-a-Ling - The Clovers
Mambo Baby - Ruth Brown
You Don't Have to Go - Jimmy Reed
Honey Love - Clyde McPhatter & The Drifters
Goin' Home - Fats Domino
I'd Be Satisfied - Billy Ward & The Dominoes
Cryin' in the Chapel - The Orioles
Ling Ting Tong - Five keys
Bostic Flamingo - Earl Bostic
Saving My Love For You - Johnny Ace
Good Morning Judge - Wynonie Harris
Reconsider Baby - Lowell Fulson
I'll Be True - Faye Adams
Baby Don't Do It - The '5' Royales
Goodnight Sweetheart Goodnight - The Spaniels
Gotta Gimme What'cha Got - Julia Lee & Her Boy Friends
Blues With a Feeling - Little Walter
Boogie Woogie Blue Plate - Louis Jordan
I Don't Know - Willie Mabon
Riot in Cell Block #9 - The Robins
Church Bells May Ring - Willows
Just Make Love to Me - Muddy Waters
Your Cash Ain't Nothin' But Trash - The Clovers
Love My Baby - Little Junior & Blue Flames
Sincerely - The Moonglows
Juke - Little Walter
Gabbin' Blues - Big Maybelle
Rags to Riches - Billy Ward & The Dominoes
I Feel So Bad - Chuck Willis
Tipitina - Professor Longhair
Eyesight to the Blind - The Larks
Annie Had a Baby - The Midnighters
Don't You Know - Ray Charles
I'm Wild About You Baby - Lightnin' Hopkins
Caldonia - Louis Jordan
Teach Me Tonight - Dinah Washington
Wrong Yo Yo - Piano Red
Gee - The Crows
Bip Bam - Clyde McPhatter & The Drifters
Goin' to the River - Fats Domino
Sim Lucy Mae Blues - Frankie Lee
Ol' Man River - Ravens
Honey Hush - Joe Turner
Teardrops From My Eyes - Ruth Brown
Crying at Daybreak - Howlin' Wolf
Hey Ba-Ba-Re-Bop - Lionel Hampton & His Orchestra
Bon Ton Roula - Clarence Garlow
Ma Rainey - Memphis Minnie
I'm Gonna Move to the Outskirts of Town - Louis Jordan & His Tympany
5
Mean Old Frisco - Arthur "Big Boy" Crudup
Bourgeois Blues - Leadbelly
Mean Old World - T-Bone Walker
Evil Gal Blues - Dinah Washington
I Wonder - Cecil Gant
Blood on the Moon - Hot Lips Page
Chicago Breakdown - Big Maceo Merriweather
Angels in Harlem - Doctor Clayton
Billie's Blues - Billie Holiday
Hoodoo Hoodoo - Sonny Boy Williamson
Good Rockin' Tonight - Roy Brown
Trouble Blues - Charles Brown
Crawlin' King Snake - John Lee Hooker
When Things Go Wrong With You (It Hurts Me Too) - Tampa Red
Cairo Blues - Melvin "Lil' Son" Jackson
Black Angel Blues (Sweet Black Angel) - Robert Nighthawk
Mardi Gras in New Orleans - Professor Longhair
Every Day I Have the Blues - Lowell Fulson
Double Crossing Blues - Johnny Otis Quintette, Esther Phillips
Rollin' and Tumblin', Pt. 1 - Muddy Waters
Mother Earth - Memphis Slim
Dust My Broom - Elmore James
How Many More Years - Howlin' Wolf
Black, Brown and White - Big Bill Broonzy
Rocket 88 - Jackie Brenston
Juke - Little Walter
Five Long Years - Eddie Boyd
Mean Old World - Little Walter
I Smell a Rat - Big Mama Thornton
Gabbin' Blues (Don't Run My Business) - Big Maybelle, Leroy Kirkland
That's All Right, Mama - Big Bill Broonzy
Things That I Used to Do - Guitar Slim
Eisenhower Blues - J.B. Lenoir
Okie Dokie Stomp - Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown,
Come Back Baby - Ray Charles
How Long, How Long Blues - Jimmy Rushing
Cherry Red - Big Joe Turner
San Francisco Bay Blues - Jesse Fuller
I Can't Quit You Baby - Otis Rush
Three Hours Past Midnight - Johnny "Guitar" Watson
T-Bone Walker - Stormy Monday Blues
etc. (that's enough songs for some context, here, which Bruce
deliberately avoids)
etc.
So, when I said, "I don't know much", I assayed modest forthright
honesty, which B. "Savoy/50s" Grossberg not only doesn't appreciate,
but opportunes for a chance to exploit that type of thing just for
things like to build himself up at someone else's expense. Of course
there are hundreds of more records from this era (give or take 5 years
this way or that way from January 1, 1950, not to mention C&W records
(which I also could have added to the list of things old, old, country
music I'm familiar with), and that's what I meant by the fact that I
don't know much; but compared to many people, who actually consider
themselves 1950's rock and roll fans, it could also be argued "I know
quite a lot", but that's relative of course. Compared to the average
1950's music fan, my knowledge may be considered the shallow vis-a-vis
experts, and archival enthusiasts, but maybe deep compared to casual
oldies fans of the 1950's music.
Yes, far be it for Savoy Grossberg (aka "50s") to provide the whole
quote, when he quoted me out of context, which was:
"It might be nice to all the way back to 1948, the best year argument
for the birth year of rock and roll, the first year to gestate some
everlasting hits (Good Rockin' Tonight and It's Too Soon To Know),
but
I doubt there are enough people interested or knowledgeable about the
raw roots of rock and roll to make the effort tenable. I like some
of that music, (among a LOT of other things) but I'm sure I don't
know
very much."
There's an old saying that a lie can travel half-way around the world
while the truth is still getting its shoes on, and I think some of
that is appropriate here.
Beware of the vain. They may not provide an accurate, and therefore,
true picture.
Larry Ingersoll