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Dean F.

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Mar 28, 2012, 9:29:06 PM3/28/12
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About a decade ago, I bought a CD called "The Hawks Rock," featuring
17 tracks by the R&B group who recorded for Imperial from 1953-55. I
played the disc a couple of times and really enjoyed it, but then
filed it away and forgot about it until just today.

The Hawks were nothing spectacular, but their music was very well-
written and performed IMHO. If you're an R&B fan and are unfamiliar
with the Hawks, check 'em out! You may just like what you hear. (Of
course, if your name is Pendragon or Sharx, you needn't bother.)

And to start you off:

The Hawks, "All Women Are the Same"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p3RoR7qThg

The Hawks, "That's What You Are":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p3RoR7qThg

The Hawks, "These Blues":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLTQo77uJ_4

The Hawks, "I-Yi":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRRupYiI7cw

The Hawks, "Why Oh Why":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz1NLtfzxNw

The Hawks, "It's Too Late Now":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbg_BtpD6L4

The Hawks, "It Ain't That Way":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu3g108gjgM

Sonic

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Mar 29, 2012, 10:24:39 PM3/29/12
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Thanks again Dean....I would definitely say this is the best sound
quality Hawks comp CD when compared to the 1953-1954 Hawks/Bees
Chronological Series CD

Anton Shepelev

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May 22, 2012, 9:39:47 AM5/22/12
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Sonic:

> Thanks again Dean....I would definitely say this
> is the best sound quality Hawks comp CD when com-
> pared to the 1953-1954 Hawks/Bees Chronological
> Series CD

After seeing this thread I purchased the CD and was
quite disappointed -- the reissue engineer had
abused noise-reduction software to an extent that
the artifacts are prominent. Such cruel remastering
is killing the music! Listen to "My girl", where it
is more evident than in other tracks and note also
the near-complete lack of tape hiss -- an ominous
sign for a remaster of an analog recording.

The sound on Chronological is no good either -- dull
and muffled, IIRC.

If I upload a track somewhere, may I hope for a cor-
rect diagnosis from the experts here?

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Sonic

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May 22, 2012, 11:20:02 AM5/22/12
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Anton - My diagnosis remains correct in my mind simply based upon the
fact that you essentially have no choices when it comes to the Hawks
on CD....The Hawks Rock CD is simply the better of the two, not to say
that the remastering is top-notch, etc...but if you want the Hawks
music on CD - the pickings are slim....

Matt

Roger Ford

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May 22, 2012, 6:06:45 PM5/22/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:39:47 +0400, Anton Shepelev
<anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> wrote:

>Sonic:
>
>> Thanks again Dean....I would definitely say this
>> is the best sound quality Hawks comp CD when com-
>> pared to the 1953-1954 Hawks/Bees Chronological
>> Series CD
>
>After seeing this thread I purchased the CD and was
>quite disappointed -- the reissue engineer had
>abused noise-reduction software to an extent that
>the artifacts are prominent. Such cruel remastering
>is killing the music! Listen to "My girl", where it
>is more evident than in other tracks and note also
>the near-complete lack of tape hiss -- an ominous
>sign for a remaster of an analog recording.
>
>The sound on Chronological is no good either -- dull
>and muffled, IIRC.
>
>If I upload a track somewhere, may I hope for a cor-
>rect diagnosis from the experts here?
>
You could get the optimum sound available by investing $1000 or so to
buy copies of the Hawks original singles.

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Anton Shepelev

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May 23, 2012, 4:32:39 AM5/23/12
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Roger Ford:

> You could get the optimum sound available by in-
> vesting $1000 or so to buy copies of the Hawks
> original singles.

Yes, and much more in playback equipment.

They must still have the matrices from which the
singles were printed, so they could go the non-stan-
dard way of printing them again and remastering the
fresh discs instead of worn and old tapes.

I was thinking about such a naive and futile a thing
as e-mailing Ace, who own the Imperial catalog, or
Bear Family, who reissued The Spiders, with a re-
quest to give The Hawks the proper treatment...

Sonic

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May 23, 2012, 10:05:30 AM5/23/12
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>
> I was thinking about such a naive and futile a thing
> as  e-mailing  Ace, who own the Imperial catalog, or
> Bear Family, who reissued The Spiders,  with  a  re-
> quest to give The Hawks the proper treatment...


I love this idea - no futility in doing that!

Anton Shepelev

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May 24, 2012, 5:02:46 AM5/24/12
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Sonic:

> > I was thinking about such a naive and futile a
> > thing as e-mailing Ace, who own the Imperial
> > catalog, or Bear Family, who reissued The Spi-
> > ders, with a request to give The Hawks the prop-
> > er treatment...
>
> I love this idea - no futility in doing that!

OK then, but what do you think is the best way to do
it -- several independent e-mails or a single col-
lective one, "endorsed" by several people? English
is my second language so I'd like to ask an inter-
ested native speaker to author the "petition"...
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