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The Wind - The Jesters - it may lose, but it's one of really, really great ones, with no apologies to any other record

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starga...@gmail.com

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May 23, 2012, 7:08:54 PM5/23/12
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Care to listen again to exquisiteness?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inSzlNTi3cw&feature=related

Dean F.

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May 23, 2012, 10:39:55 PM5/23/12
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On May 23, 6:08 pm, "stargazer...@gmail.com" <stargazer...@gmail.com>
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> Care to listen again to exquisiteness?

If so, then check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UikYboldB6U

starga...@gmail.com

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May 26, 2012, 10:36:01 AM5/26/12
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Dean,

One of these two statements is true; can you guess which one it is?

(1) I became of aware of The Diablos original more than 35 years ago and have heard it many times over the years

(2) I just heard the Diablos version for the first time through the link you just shared

Nick K.

P.S. - I just happen to think/feel/believe and finally KNOW that the Jesters version is a wonderful full-fledged masterpiece in its own right, regardless of which of the two answers above is correct, and as I said before (in a manner of speaking), has no need to apologize to any other record.

DianeE

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May 26, 2012, 2:37:41 PM5/26/12
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Personally, I grew up with the Jesters' NYC classic and did not hear the
Diablos original until some time around 1971 or 72, when I heard it played
by Gus Gossert.

I have a great sentimental attachment to the Jesters record. That was the
sound of the Brooklyn streets of my childhood, along with the Paragons, the
Dubs, Louis Lymon & Teenchords, etc.

But I have to say that when I first heard the Diablos version it was one of
those falling-off-the-couch, "OMIGOD! OMIGOD! WHAT THE HELL IS THAT!"
moments for me. Nolan Strong's voice was incomparable in its ability to
convey this kind of emotion. It is no wonder that Smokey Robinson and Eddie
Kendricks idolized him.

DianeE


Dean F.

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May 26, 2012, 4:17:48 PM5/26/12
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On May 26, 2:37 pm, "DianeE" <TiredOfS...@SorryFolks.com> wrote:

> Dean,
>
> One of these two statements is true; can you guess which one it is?
>
> (1) I became of aware of The Diablos original more than 35 years ago and
> have heard it many times over the years
>
> (2) I just heard the Diablos version for the first time through the link you
> just shared

Your loss, pal.

> P.S. - I just happen to think/feel/believe and finally KNOW that the Jesters
> version is a wonderful full-fledged masterpiece in its own right, regardless
> of which of the two answers above is correct, and as I said before (in a
> manner of speaking), has no need to apologize to any other record.

Do you happen to know why the Jesters even recorded that song?

The first generation of doo-wop collectors had created a demand for
the Diablos' original. Unfortunately, Devora Brown at Fortune Records
refused to lease out the master for reissue. So the Jesters were
recruited to wax a note-for-note re-do of the Diablos' track. Or to
put it bluntly, the first generation of doo-wop enthusiasts had to
*settle for* the Jesters because the Diablos' record was unavailable.

That tells me all I need to know about which version of "The Wind" is
definitive.

Dean F.

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May 26, 2012, 4:19:33 PM5/26/12
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On May 26, 2:37 pm, "DianeE" <TiredOfS...@SorryFolks.com> wrote:

> Personally, I grew up with the Jesters' NYC classic and did not hear the
> Diablos original until some time around 1971 or 72, when I heard it played
> by Gus Gossert.
>
> I have a great sentimental attachment to the Jesters record.  That was the
> sound of the Brooklyn streets of my childhood, along with the Paragons, the
> Dubs, Louis Lymon & Teenchords, etc.
>
> But I have to say that when I first heard the Diablos version it was one of
> those falling-off-the-couch, "OMIGOD! OMIGOD! WHAT THE HELL IS THAT!"
> moments for me.  Nolan Strong's voice was incomparable in its ability to
> convey this kind of emotion.  It is no wonder that Smokey Robinson and Eddie
> Kendricks idolized him.

Good for you, Diane! You were able to push nostalgia aside in favor of
musical quality. Sadly, most people (whatever their age) aren't able
to do that.

starga...@gmail.com

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May 26, 2012, 11:18:30 PM5/26/12
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On Saturday, May 26, 2012 4:17:48 PM UTC-4, Dean F. wrote:
> On May 26, 2:37 pm, "DianeE" <TiredOfS...@SorryFolks.com> wrote:
>
> > Dean,
> >
> > One of these two statements is true; can you guess which one it is?
> >
> > (1) I became of aware of The Diablos original more than 35 years ago and
> > have heard it many times over the years
> >
> > (2) I just heard the Diablos version for the first time through the link you
> > just shared
>
> Your loss, pal.

I actually like the Diablos version; I just happen to love the Jesters version.
Both are essential (in my book). In case you misunderstood (or couldn't get the obvious answer to my question, intuitively at least, I became acquainted with the Jesters version in the 60's, and the Diablos' version back in the 1970's somewhere thereabouts in the middle of that decade. I admit that's late to the game for that record, but I was not a teenager in 1955 either, and never heard it played as an oldie on any station I listened to until Harvey Holiday began his career at WDAS in the 1970's and that Soul/Doo-Wop & R&B aficianado/specialist began playing some record I never even heard Hy Lit play back in the 60's. But Hy Lit wore out a lot of copies of the Jesters' 45.
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