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Roger Ford

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Jan 1, 2010, 10:47:44 AM1/1/10
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As everyone else and his brother seems to be making predictions for
2010 on TV and in the papers here's my predictions for the front
runners in the soon to be launched first Singles Battle of
2010---looking back at the year 1961!!

This one I think is wide open---a whole bunch of records are easily
capable of winning this---but in the end I have a gut feeling that it
may well be Del Shannon's "Runaway" that comes out on top. Maybe
beating "Roy Orbison's "Running Scared" in the Final?

The other front runners as I see them :-

U.S Bonds - Quarter To Three - Legrand 1008
Ray Charles - Hit The Road Jack - ABC-Paramount 10244
Dion - Runaround Sue - Laurie 3110
Dion - The Wanderer - Laurie 3115
The Dukays - Duke Of Earl - Nat 4003
The Impressions - Gypsy Woman - ABC-Paramount 10241
The Jive Five - My True Story - Beltone 1006
Ernie K-Doe - Mother-In-Law - Minit 623
Ben E. King - Stand By Me - Atco 6194 (my personal 1961 #1)
Bobby Lewis - Tossin' And Turnin' - Beltone 1002
The Marcels - Blue Moon - Colpix 186
The Marvelettes - Please Mister Postman - Tamla 54046
Shep & The Limelites - Daddy's Home - Hull 740

Sadly I don't have much confidence in my #2 fave of 1961 reaching the
Final but if there';s any justice it should get a long way indeed in
the contest---the quite brilliant "It Will Stand" from the Showmen

Whatever the outcome those same Showmen definitely merit the last word
here---with my most confident prediction today :-

"ROCK AND ROLL FOREVER WILL STAND!!"

ROGER FORD
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50s

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Jan 1, 2010, 10:58:21 AM1/1/10
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On Jan 1, 10:47 am, maria...@bblueyonder.co.uk (Roger Ford) wrote:
> As everyone else and his brother seems to be making predictions for
> 2010 on TV and in the papers here's my predictions for the front
> runners in the soon to be launched first Singles Battle of
> 2010---looking back at the year 1961!!
>
> This one I think is wide open---a whole bunch of records are easily
> capable of winning this---but in the end I have a gut feeling that it
> may well be Del Shannon's "Runaway" that comes out on top. Maybe
> beating "Roy Orbison's "Running Scared" in the Final?
>
> The other front runners as I see them :-
>
> U.S Bonds - Quarter To Three - Legrand 1008
> Ray Charles - Hit The Road Jack - ABC-Paramount 10244
> Dion - Runaround Sue - Laurie 3110
> Dion - The Wanderer - Laurie 3115
> The Dukays - Duke Of Earl - Nat 4003
> The Impressions - Gypsy Woman - ABC-Paramount 10241
> The Jive Five - My True Story - Beltone 1006
> Ernie K-Doe - Mother-In-Law - Minit 623
> Ben E. King - Stand By Me - Atco 6194 (my personal 1961 #1)
> Bobby Lewis - Tossin' And Turnin' - Beltone 1002
> The Marcels - Blue Moon - Colpix 186
> The Marvelettes - Please Mister Postman - Tamla 54046
> Shep & The Limelites - Daddy's Home - Hull 740

With these pop/country oriented voters around here I think you have to
include "Crazy" as a possible winner.

Tom Simon

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Jan 1, 2010, 8:18:59 PM1/1/10
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Some interesting observations, and 1961 certainly was a good year for
pop music. What I remember about it probably more than anything was
that Tossin' and Turnin' was a huge, huge hit that year and if I
remember correctly it stayed on top of the charts for a long time.

Tom Simon

Mark Dintenfass

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Jan 1, 2010, 10:17:44 PM1/1/10
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In article <4b3e178...@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Roger Ford
<mari...@bblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

I think "Stand By Me" will do very well indeed and is more likely than
"Running Scared" to make the final. And I suspect "Quarter to Three"
may prove a dark horse candidate for the semis.

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50s

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Jan 1, 2010, 10:23:30 PM1/1/10
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On Jan 1, 10:17 pm, Mark Dintenfass <mdintenf...@xxnew.rr.com> wrote:
> In article <4b3e178e.656...@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Roger Ford


Unfortunately I think you're right. I make "Stand By Me" the favorite
to win.

Todd Lucas

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On Jan 1, 9:23 pm, 50s <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:

> > I think "Stand By Me" will do very well indeed and is more likely than
> > "Running Scared" to make the final.
>
> Unfortunately I think you're right. I make "Stand By Me" the favorite
> to win.

Took the words right out of my mouth, unfortunately.

Mark Dintenfass

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In article
<0f8bacad-5e14-430d...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
Todd Lucas <tlu...@onecliq.net> wrote:

Once you get past the fact that it's been played to death, it's still a
great record.

50s

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Jan 1, 2010, 11:46:12 PM1/1/10
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On Jan 1, 11:37 pm, Mark Dintenfass <mdintenf...@xxnew.rr.com> wrote:
> In article
> <0f8bacad-5e14-430d-b0d2-6eb9b975c...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,

>
> Todd Lucas <tluc...@onecliq.net> wrote:
> > On Jan 1, 9:23 pm, 50s <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I think "Stand By Me" will do very well indeed and is more likely than
> > > > "Running Scared" to make the final.
>
> > > Unfortunately I think you're right. I make "Stand By Me" the favorite
> > > to win.
>
> > Took the words right out of my mouth, unfortunately.
>
> Once you get past the fact that it's been played to death, it's still a
> great record.

It's never been a great record as far as Todd and I see it.

Dean F.

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Jan 2, 2010, 12:08:25 AM1/2/10
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If anyone's interested, here's my Top 100+ of 1961:

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/goldwax317/1961__my_personal_top_100_

50s

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On Jan 2, 12:08 am, "Dean F." <soulexpr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If anyone's interested, here's my Top 100+ of 1961:
>
> http://rateyourmusic.com/list/goldwax317/1961__my_personal_top_100_

Here's my list for the year. No "Stand By Me" or "Crazy."

There's a few 1961 singles that are not here because they were
already out on albums in 1960.


MY TOP 100 RECORDINGS FROM 1961:
1 ¦ It Will Stand ¦ Showmen
2 ¦ No Sweet Lovin' ¦ Drifters
3 ¦ Let The Four Winds Blow ¦ Fats Domino
4 ¦ Footstompin' ¦ Flares
5 ¦ Lonely No More ¦ Little Milton
6 ¦ Pony Time ¦ Chubby Checker
7 ¦ I Pity The Fool ¦ Bobby "Blue" Bland
8 ¦ Hung Down Head ¦ Lowell Fulsom
9 ¦ Running Scared ¦ Roy Orbison
10 ¦ Smoky Places ¦ Corsairs
11 ¦ I Hear You Knocking ¦ Fats Domino
12 ¦ Don't Knock ¦ Spiders (LP cut)
13 ¦ Honey, I Ain't Teasin' ¦ Smokey Smothers
14 ¦ Takin' Care Of Business ¦ Freddy King
15 ¦ Dear Lady (Twist) ¦ Gary U.S. Bonds
16 ¦ She Got Low Down ¦ Huey "Piano" Smith
17 ¦ Honey Bee ¦ Drifters
18 ¦ Poor Fool ¦ Ike & Tina Turner
19 ¦ The Red Rooster ¦ Howlin' Wolf
20 ¦ Duke Of Earl ¦ Dukays
21 ¦ Walking Around In Circles ¦ Spiders (LP cut)
22 ¦ Turn On Your Lovelight ¦ Bobby "Blue" Bland
23 ¦ See See Baby ¦ Freddy King
24 ¦ I'm Glad She's Mine ¦ Lonesome Sundown
25 ¦ Don't Start Cryin' Now ¦ Slim Harpo
26 ¦ Quarter To Three ¦ Gary US Bonds
27 ¦ So Mean To Me ¦ Little Milton
28 ¦ Soothe Me ¦ Sims Twins
29 ¦ Last Night ¦ Mar-Keys
30 ¦ Hit The Road Jack ¦ Ray Charles
31 ¦ Crying ¦ Roy Orbison
32 ¦ Te-Ta-Te-Ta-Ta ¦ Ernie K-Doe
33 ¦ Sweet Jelly Roll ¦ Jessie Hill
34 ¦ Jambalaya ¦ Fats Domino
35 ¦ I Really Love You ¦ Stereos
36 ¦ His Latest Flame ¦ Elvis Presley
37 ¦ Walk Right Back ¦ Everly Brothers
38 ¦ Ya-Ya ¦ Lee Dorsey
39 ¦ Come Over Here ¦ James Brown
40 ¦ School Is Out ¦ Gary U.S. Bonds
41 ¦ Just Got To Know ¦ Jimmy McCracklin
42 ¦ Blue Moon ¦ Marcels
43 ¦ My True Story ¦ Jive Five
44 ¦ I'm Tore Down ¦ Freddy King
45 ¦ Mother-In-Law ¦ Ernie K-Doe
46 ¦ Drive It Home ¦ Clovers
47 ¦ Long Tall Girl ¦ Carnations
48 ¦ A Certain Girl ¦ Ernie K-Doe
49 ¦ Hey Baby ¦ Bruce Channel
50 ¦ I Like It Like That ¦ Chris Kenner
51 ¦ St. James Infirmary ¦ Bobby "Blue" Bland
52 ¦ Bright Lights, Big City ¦ Jimmy Reed
53 ¦ Sweets For My Sweet ¦ Drifters
54 ¦ Dr. Brown ¦ Buster Brown
55 ¦ I Walked All Night Long ¦ Albert King
56 ¦ Little Egypt ¦ Coasters
57 ¦ The Wanderer ¦ Dion
58 ¦ Gypsy Woman ¦ Impressions
59 ¦ Pretty Little Angel Eyes ¦ Curtis Lee
60 ¦ Go-Go-Go ¦ Chuck Berry
61 ¦ Lonesome Whistle Blues ¦ Freddy King
62 ¦ Hideaway ¦ Freddy King
63 ¦ Please Stay ¦ Drifters
64 ¦ Runaway ¦ Del Shannon
65 ¦ Mojo Hand ¦ Lightning Hopkins
66 ¦ Driving Wheel ¦ Little Junior Parker
67 ¦ You Don't Miss Your Water ¦ William Bell
68 ¦ Stop Right Now ¦ Sonny Boy Williamson
69 ¦ Ain't That Loving You ¦ Bobby "Blue" Bland
70 ¦ What Is This I See ¦ Hank Ballard & Midnighters
71 ¦ Bristol Stomp ¦ Dovells
72 ¦ Wait A Minute ¦ Coasters
73 ¦ Dum Dum ¦ Brenda Lee
74 ¦ Peppermint Twist ¦ Joey Dee & Starlighters
75 ¦ We Got A Party ¦ Party Boys
76 ¦ Lover's Island ¦ Blue Jays
77 ¦ The Things I'd Do For You ¦ Junior Wells
78 ¦ Daddy's Home ¦ Shep & Limelites
79 ¦ In My Heart ¦ Timetones
80 ¦ Travelin' Man ¦ Ricky Nelson
81 ¦ My Song (unreleased track) ¦ Little Milton
82 ¦ That's What Girls Are Made For ¦ Spinners
83 ¦ Lay It On The Line ¦ Dominoes
84 ¦ But On The Other Hand Baby ¦ Ray Charles
85 ¦ You Better Move On ¦ Arthur Alexander
86 ¦ Hey Girl ¦ Lucky Carmicheal
87 ¦ The Only One I Love ¦ Miracles
88 ¦ I Don't Want To Cry ¦ Chuck Jackson
89 ¦ Ain't Gonna Do It ¦ Fats Domino
90 ¦ Midnight Ramblin' Tonight ¦ H-Bomb Ferguson
91 ¦ The Honeydripper ¦ Clovers
92 ¦ I Know ¦ Barbara George
93 ¦ The Mill Ain't Far ¦ Huey "Piano" Smith & Clowns
94 ¦ There's No Other ¦ Crystals
95 ¦ Now That I Have You ¦ Willows
96 ¦ A Little Bit Of Soap ¦ Jarmels
97 ¦ Locked Up ¦ Sonny Fulton
98 ¦ Coal Miner ¦ Nappy Brown
99 ¦ What A Price ¦ Fats Domino
100 ¦ Jelly, Jelly, Jelly ¦ Bobby "Blue" Bland

BUBBLING UNDER FROM 1961:
101 ¦ I'm A Fool To Care ¦ Joe Barry
102 ¦ I Hear Jingle Bells ¦ Freddy King
103 ¦ Hello Mary Lou ¦ Ricky Nelson
104 ¦ Solitaire ¦ Embers
105 ¦ Mean Little Mama ¦ Roy Orbison
106 ¦ Runaround Sue ¦ Dion
107 ¦ Break It To Me Gently ¦ Brenda Lee
108 ¦ Just One More Time ¦ Concertones

Roger Ford

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On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 07:58:21 -0800 (PST), 50s <Sav...@aol.com> wrote:

I see Patsy Cline getting a long way with "Crazy" but I think many of
the above would defeat her. I back her to have the most successful
country single tho probably repeating the act with her "I Fall To
Pieces" in second spot. I suppose "Big Bad John" should do pretty well
too

Roger Ford

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>Some interesting observations, and 1961 certainly was a good year for
>pop music. What I remember about it probably more than anything was
>that Tossin' and Turnin' was a huge, huge hit that year and if I
>remember correctly it stayed on top of the charts for a long time.
>

Incredibly "Tossin' And Turnin'"---easily the biggest single of 1961
on the Billboard charts---failed to chart at all here in the UK. Worse
yet I don't remember EVER hearing it on the BBC who,for some reason
seemed to loathe the record. I don't think they included it on any of
their playlists. Therefore I heard the record only sporadically when
it was out via Luxembourg and AFN. It became a great favorite at the
time. I still like it but its been superceded for me by better records
from that year.

Roger Ford

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Jan 2, 2010, 4:51:24 AM1/2/10
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Don't you see "Runaway" as at least a possible Finalist?

Roger Ford

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On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 19:23:30 -0800 (PST), 50s <Sav...@aol.com> wrote:

I don't understand why "Stand By Me"---which I considered a classic
from the first time I ever heard it and which has only ever grown in
stature with me since then---seems such an anathema to you.

I agree that it has been massively overplayed on radio especially
since its resurgence in the 80's when it became a huge hit all over
again (the February 28 1987 NME chart here must have easily the best
pair of chart toppers in that decade with "Stand By Me" seated at #1
and a reissue of Percy Sledge's blue eyed soul classic (!) "When A Man
Loves A Woman" at #2) but it's still a terrific performance
(comfortably blowing away every other version of the much recorded
song that I've ever heard) and as far as I'm concerned Benny was never
better and it remains my favorite record of 1961.

It'll certainly get my vote in every round it survives against
anything else the random number generator throws at it :)

Roger Ford

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Jan 2, 2010, 5:08:22 AM1/2/10
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My sentiments precisely as I just said to Bruce in my response to him

Sharx35

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"Roger Ford" <mari...@bblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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Unknown dreck, it was.

Sharx35

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"Roger Ford" <mari...@bblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> As everyone else and his brother seems to be making predictions for
> 2010 on TV and in the papers here's my predictions for the front
> runners in the soon to be launched first Singles Battle of
> 2010---looking back at the year 1961!!
>
> This one I think is wide open---a whole bunch of records are easily
> capable of winning this---but in the end I have a gut feeling that it
> may well be Del Shannon's "Runaway" that comes out on top. Maybe
> beating "Roy Orbison's "Running Scared" in the Final?
>
> The other front runners as I see them :-
>
> U.S Bonds - Quarter To Three - Legrand 1008
> Ray Charles - Hit The Road Jack - ABC-Paramount 10244
> Dion - Runaround Sue - Laurie 3110
> Dion - The Wanderer - Laurie 3115
> The Dukays - Duke Of Earl - Nat 4003
> The Impressions - Gypsy Woman - ABC-Paramount 10241
> The Jive Five - My True Story - Beltone 1006
> Ernie K-Doe - Mother-In-Law - Minit 623
> Ben E. King - Stand By Me - Atco 6194 (my personal 1961 #1)
> Bobby Lewis - Tossin' And Turnin' - Beltone 1002
> The Marcels - Blue Moon - Colpix 186
> The Marvelettes - Please Mister Postman - Tamla 54046
> Shep & The Limelites - Daddy's Home - Hull 740
>

Admittedly, a LOT of good shit in that list.

Sharx35

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If BBJ doesn't make the top 25, SOMETHING is fucked.

Sharx35

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"Tom Simon" <tsi...@REMOVEtsimon.com> wrote in message
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Up here, it was grossly over played.


>
> Tom Simon
>

Sharx35

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"50s" <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in message
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SBM damn well SHOULD be a top finalist.


>

Sharx35

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The only record that YOU and TODD know is the max. number of arse strokes
you can get with ONE dab of KY Jelly.

Roger Ford

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On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 15:47:44 GMT, mari...@bblueyonder.co.uk (Roger
Ford) wrote:

>As everyone else and his brother seems to be making predictions for
>2010 on TV and in the papers here's my predictions for the front
>runners in the soon to be launched first Singles Battle of
>2010---looking back at the year 1961!!
>
>This one I think is wide open---a whole bunch of records are easily
>capable of winning this---but in the end I have a gut feeling that it
>may well be Del Shannon's "Runaway" that comes out on top. Maybe
>beating "Roy Orbison's "Running Scared" in the Final?
>
>The other front runners as I see them :-
>

>The Dukays - Duke Of Earl - Nat 4003

Of course this was the first issue of what most people know better as
the huge #1 hit (in 1962) "Duke Of Earl" by Gene Chandler. It is the
identical recording

Mark Dintenfass

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In article <4b3f16f0...@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Roger Ford
<mari...@bblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Yes, of course, which is why I specified that "Stand By Me" would
likely replace "Running Scared" in your scenario.

Roger Ford

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On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 05:47:07 -0600, Mark Dintenfass
<mdint...@xxnew.rr.com> wrote:

Gotcha!

Certainly these three do seem to kind of jump out at you in a most big
time way from the 1961 list. And for sure all three of them will be
HUGE forces to be reckoned with.

Roger Ford

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Jan 2, 2010, 7:39:06 AM1/2/10
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You'll be pleased to hear that I've included in the upcoming 1961
Singles Battle practically everything from your list that is eligible.

Interesting to see you have Bobby Bland's "Turn On Your Love Light" at
your #1. This was the first Bland record I ever heard (considering how
long the guy had been recording that may sound incredible---until you
realize that the guy had NO records at all released in this country
prior to 1961. And sadly that included my personal favorite Bland
release of 1961 "I Pity The Fool" which was missed out for release
here

Here's how my personal favorites list for 1961 reflects the two
greatest BB records of the year :-

1. Stand By Me Ben E King
2. It Will Stand Showmen
3. I Pity The Fool Bobby Bland
4. Shake Your Moneymaker Elmore James
5. My True Story Jive Five
6. Let The Four Winds Blow Fats Domino
7. Blue Moon Marcels
8. Duke Of Earl Dukays
9. You Better Move On Arthur Alexander
10. No Sweet Lovin' Drifters
11. Watch Your Step Bobby Parker
12. The Red Rooster Howlin' Wolf
13. Runaway Del Shannon
14. Foot Stomping Flares
15. Quarter To Three U.S Bonds
16. Running Scared Roy Orbison
17. Hit The Road Jack Ray Charles
18. Gypsy Woman Impressions
19. Turn On Your Love Light Bobby Bland
20. Mother-In-Law Ernie K-Doe
21. I Like It Like That Chris Kenner
22. It's Gonna Work Out Fine Ike & Tina Turner
23. Soothe Me Sims Twins
24. Come On Chuck Berry
25. Hideaway Freddy King
26. I Really Love You Stereos
27. I Know Barbara George
28. A Shot Of Rhythm And Blues Arthur Alexander
29. Little Egypt Coasters
30. Jamie Eddie Holland

Sharx35

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"Roger Ford" <mari...@bblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message

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> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 15:47:44 GMT, mari...@bblueyonder.co.uk (Roger
> Ford) wrote:
>
>>As everyone else and his brother seems to be making predictions for
>>2010 on TV and in the papers here's my predictions for the front
>>runners in the soon to be launched first Singles Battle of
>>2010---looking back at the year 1961!!
>>
>>This one I think is wide open---a whole bunch of records are easily
>>capable of winning this---but in the end I have a gut feeling that it
>>may well be Del Shannon's "Runaway" that comes out on top. Maybe
>>beating "Roy Orbison's "Running Scared" in the Final?
>>
>>The other front runners as I see them :-
>>
>>The Dukays - Duke Of Earl - Nat 4003
>
> Of course this was the first issue of what most people know better as
> the huge #1 hit (in 1962) "Duke Of Earl" by Gene Chandler. It is the
> identical recording

Gene's version IS the DEFINITIVE version. Why people whack off over a record
JUST BECAUSE it is the first release is open to question.

Sharx35

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"Roger Ford" <mari...@bblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message

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> On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 21:08:25 -0800 (PST), "Dean F."
> <soule...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>If anyone's interested, here's my Top 100+ of 1961:
>>
>>http://rateyourmusic.com/list/goldwax317/1961__my_personal_top_100_
>
> You'll be pleased to hear that I've included in the upcoming 1961
> Singles Battle practically everything from your list that is eligible.
>
> Interesting to see you have Bobby Bland's "Turn On Your Love Light" at
> your #1. This was the first Bland record I ever heard (considering how
> long the guy had been recording that may sound incredible---until you
> realize that the guy had NO records at all released in this country
> prior to 1961. And sadly that included my personal favorite Bland
> release of 1961 "I Pity The Fool" which was missed out for release
> here
>
> Here's how my personal favorites list for 1961 reflects the two
> greatest BB records of the year :-

AS EDITED with dreck removed:


>
> 1. Stand By Me Ben E King
>

> 6. Let The Four Winds Blow Fats Domino
> 7. Blue Moon Marcels
>

> 10. No Sweet Lovin' Drifters

> 13. Runaway Del Shannon

> 15. Quarter To Three U.S Bonds
> 16. Running Scared Roy Orbison
> 17. Hit The Road Jack Ray Charles
> 18. Gypsy Woman Impressions
>

> 20. Mother-In-Law Ernie K-Doe
> 21. I Like It Like That Chris Kenner


>


> 27. I Know Barbara George

> 29. Little Egypt Coasters

NOW, we have a half decent list!!!

Mark Dintenfass

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In article <4b3f39a6...@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Roger Ford
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> 30. Jamie Eddie Holland

Nice to see this one included. As the much-maligned Dave Marsh rightly
said, it's certainly the best Jackie Wilson record not by Jackie
Wilson.

Mark Dintenfass

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In article <4b3f36c3...@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Roger Ford
<mari...@bblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

I'm hoping "Gypsy Woman" has a good ride. It's a record I never tired
of, as I have a whole bunch of the ones on your list.

yougotl...@yahoo.com

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Will you be including Kyu Sakamoto's "Ue o muite arukou" (I Look Up
When I Walk) this time? (Didn't seem to be in 1963 contest, or was
it?) If qualified now,
a request, whether or not anyone else hates it.

The record label in Japan ("Nihon" in their language, pronounced
roughly Nee-HONNE, accent on 2nd syllable), would certainly spelled
that out in kanji and/or hiragana characters (Ue o muite arukou) but I
don't see the point, here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2nBre-JEU&feature=PlayList&p=A3CECB6A7DC801F9&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=19

Larry Ingersoll


Dean F.

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On Jan 2, 7:58 am, Mark Dintenfass <mdintenf...@xxnew.rr.com> wrote:

> Nice to see this one included. As the much-maligned Dave Marsh rightly
> said, it's certainly the best Jackie Wilson record not by Jackie
> Wilson.

For the record (pardon the expression), my recent thread was not an
attempt to malign Dave Marsh. If anything, I regard my list of the
factual errors in his book as a kind of public service!


50s

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Jan 2, 2010, 5:13:23 PM1/2/10
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Just like my corrections to Historyofrock.com

Mark Dintenfass

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Jan 2, 2010, 6:29:40 PM1/2/10
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In article
<589788a0-7fe4-4b57...@h2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,
Dean F. <soule...@gmail.com> wrote:

Fair enough. It was Bruce who used the occasion to malign--or rather
re-malign, since his views of Marsh have been often often expressed.
Like you, I found Marsh useful in leading me to new music and, despite
the errors, usually interesting the way a critic should be
interesting--that is, provoking a reaction one way or another.

50s

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Jan 2, 2010, 8:12:52 PM1/2/10
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On Jan 2, 6:29 pm, Mark Dintenfass <mdintenf...@xxnew.rr.com> wrote:

> Like you, I found Marsh useful in leading me to new music

There was not one good item of the 1,001 that I was not familiar with
already. The only things I didn't know already were some shit 1980s
records.

Big Al Pavlow turned me on to loads of real good things in his books.

Todd Lucas

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Jan 2, 2010, 9:38:49 PM1/2/10
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On Jan 1, 10:46 pm, 50s <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:

> On Jan 1, 11:37 pm, Mark Dintenfass <mdintenf...@xxnew.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <0f8bacad-5e14-430d-b0d2-6eb9b975c...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > Todd Lucas <tluc...@onecliq.net> wrote:
> > > On Jan 1, 9:23 pm, 50s <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > I think "Stand By Me" will do very well indeed and is more likely than
> > > > > "Running Scared" to make the final.
>
> > > > Unfortunately I think you're right. I make "Stand By Me" the favorite
> > > > to win.
>
> > > Took the words right out of my mouth, unfortunately.
>
> > Once you get past the fact that it's been played to death, it's still a
> > great record.
>
> It's never been a great record as far as Todd and I see it.

I think that it's a very good record but it's never been a real
favorite.

Todd Lucas

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Jan 2, 2010, 9:43:01 PM1/2/10
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On Jan 2, 6:58 am, Mark Dintenfass <mdintenf...@xxnew.rr.com> wrote:
> In article <4b3f39a6.19648...@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Roger Ford

>
> <maria...@bblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > 30. Jamie       Eddie Holland
>
> Nice to see this one included. As the much-maligned Dave Marsh rightly
> said, it's certainly the best Jackie Wilson record not by Jackie
> Wilson.
>
I recently found a copy of this 45 and am not a huge fan.

Dean F.

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Jan 3, 2010, 12:59:52 AM1/3/10
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On Jan 2, 6:29 pm, Mark Dintenfass <mdintenf...@xxnew.rr.com> wrote:

> Fair enough. It was Bruce who used the occasion to malign--or rather
> re-malign, since his views of Marsh have been often often expressed.
> Like you, I found Marsh useful in leading me to new music and, despite
> the errors, usually interesting the way a critic should be
> interesting--that is, provoking a reaction one way or another.

When I publish the finished list, you'll see that I made no criticisms
of Marsh's song selections (though I was less than thrilled with some
of them). I'll leave that to the legions of others who've been doing
it for the past 20 years!

Roger Ford

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:00:30 AM1/3/10
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 09:09:21 -0800 (PST), "yougotl...@yahoo.com"
<yougotl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Will you be including Kyu Sakamoto's "Ue o muite arukou" (I Look Up
>When I Walk) this time? (Didn't seem to be in 1963 contest, or was
>it?) If qualified now,
>a request, whether or not anyone else hates it.
>

Yes the record you refer to,commonly known today as "Sukiyaki" by Kyu
Sakamoto is included in the 1961 Singles Battle

Roger Ford

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Jan 3, 2010, 9:09:34 AM1/3/10
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On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 06:58:50 -0600, Mark Dintenfass
<mdint...@xxnew.rr.com> wrote:

>In article <4b3f39a6...@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Roger Ford
><mari...@bblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> 30. Jamie Eddie Holland
>
>Nice to see this one included. As the much-maligned Dave Marsh rightly
>said, it's certainly the best Jackie Wilson record not by Jackie
>Wilson.
>

IIRC the British pioneering R&B fan Mike Vernon said this first in the
pages of an old "R&B Monthly" magazine

Sharx35

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Jan 4, 2010, 12:31:10 AM1/4/10
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"Roger Ford" <mari...@bblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message

news:4b40a2c...@text.news.virginmedia.com...


> On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 09:09:21 -0800 (PST), "yougotl...@yahoo.com"
> <yougotl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Will you be including Kyu Sakamoto's "Ue o muite arukou" (I Look Up
>>When I Walk) this time? (Didn't seem to be in 1963 contest, or was
>>it?) If qualified now,
>>a request, whether or not anyone else hates it.
>>
> Yes the record you refer to,commonly known today as "Sukiyaki" by Kyu
> Sakamoto is included in the 1961 Singles Battle

Good to here that: it was one of the best instrumentals of that year. Bar
none.

50s

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:11:53 AM1/4/10
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On Jan 4, 12:31 am, "Sharx35" <shar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Roger Ford" <maria...@bblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:4b40a2c...@text.news.virginmedia.com...

>
> > On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 09:09:21 -0800 (PST), "yougotlucky...@yahoo.com"
> > <yougotlucky...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>Will you be including Kyu Sakamoto's "Ue o muite arukou" (I Look Up
> >>When I Walk) this time?  (Didn't seem to be in 1963 contest, or was
> >>it?)  If qualified now,
> >>a request, whether or not anyone else hates it.
>
> > Yes the record you refer to,commonly known today as "Sukiyaki" by Kyu
> > Sakamoto is included in the 1961 Singles Battle
>
> Good to here that: it was one of the best instrumentals of that year. Bar
> none.


instrumental, huh?

ROFL....what a fucking imbecile.

Sharx35

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:45:17 AM1/4/10
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"50s" <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in message

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If it's not ENGLISH vocal, it defaults to the catch-all: Instrumental

This makes even more sense than YOUR way of classifying music.


>

50s

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Jan 4, 2010, 2:10:53 AM1/4/10
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On Jan 4, 1:45 am, "Sharx35" <shar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "50s" <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in message

And if you're not smart you default to stupid.

Sharx35

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Jan 4, 2010, 3:42:39 AM1/4/10
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"50s" <Sav...@aol.com> wrote in message

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:You seem to be the expert on stupidity--your own.


>

Roger Ford

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:03:05 AM1/4/10
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 23:10:53 -0800 (PST), 50s <Sav...@aol.com> wrote:

>On Jan 4, 1:45=A0am, "Sharx35" <shar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "50s" <Savo...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:f1ffe8ba-a471-461f...@34g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 4, 12:31 am, "Sharx35" <shar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "Roger Ford" <maria...@bblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:4b40a2c...@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>
>> >> > On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 09:09:21 -0800 (PST), "yougotlucky...@yahoo.com"
>> >> > <yougotlucky...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >>Will you be including Kyu Sakamoto's "Ue o muite arukou" (I Look Up

>> >> >>When I Walk) this time? =A0(Didn't seem to be in 1963 contest, or wa=
>s
>> >> >>it?) =A0If qualified now,


>> >> >>a request, whether or not anyone else hates it.
>>

>> >> > Yes the record you refer to,commonly known today as "Sukiyaki" by Ky=


>u
>> >> > Sakamoto is included in the 1961 Singles Battle
>>

>> >> Good to here that: it was one of the best instrumentals of that year. =


>Bar
>> >> none.
>>
>> > instrumental, huh?
>>
>> > ROFL....what a fucking imbecile.
>>
>> If it's not ENGLISH vocal, it defaults to the catch-all: Instrumental
>
>And if you're not smart you default to stupid.

So now I guess we need to reclassify both "Al Di La" by Emilio
Pericoli And "Non Je Ne Regrette Rien" by Edith Piaf from 1961 as
instrumentals also according to the weird logic of this total dumb
bell.

ROTFL!!!

Sharx35

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Jan 5, 2010, 12:49:16 AM1/5/10
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"Roger Ford" <mari...@bblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message

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No weirder that those who continue to j.o. over ghetto/soul/blues dreck.

yougotl...@yahoo.com

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Jan 7, 2010, 5:14:37 PM1/7/10
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> ROGER FORD

You don't see "Angel Eyes" by Curtis Lee making any challenge to ANY
of those?

Sharx35

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<yougotl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Angel Eyes kicks ass. Too much harmony for the geek ghetto dreckistes in
this ng.

50s

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On Jan 8, 1:26 am, "Sharx35" <shar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <yougotlucky...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

The vocal group (Halos) on the record is black and from the ghetto
(Harlem), you fucking turd.

Dean F.

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Jan 8, 2010, 2:15:26 AM1/8/10
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On Jan 8, 2:06 am, 50s <Savo...@aol.com> wrote:

> The vocal group (Halos) on the record is black and from the ghetto
> (Harlem), you fucking turd.

As I believe you yourself once said, what Sharx knows about this music
wouldn't fill a thimble.

50s

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Jan 8, 2010, 2:36:14 AM1/8/10
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Uni laughs at Sharx's ignorance.

Sharx35

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Jan 8, 2010, 3:56:07 AM1/8/10
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"Dean F." <soule...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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What the A.I. technician said to Bruthie and Deano re their cum output.

Roger Ford

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Jan 8, 2010, 7:05:22 AM1/8/10
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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:06:59 -0800 (PST), 50s <Sav...@aol.com> wrote:

Right!

And as far as the 1961 Singles Battle is concerned the black Halos
also back Barry Mann on his big "Who Put The Bomp" hit as well as
appearing with Gene Pitney on "Every Breath I Take". And of course
they also charted that year in their own right with ""Nag""

Roger Ford

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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:14:37 -0800 (PST), "yougotl...@yahoo.com"
<yougotl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Whilst I like "Pretty Little Angel Eyes" fine myself and think it will
do pretty well in the upcoming contest I just don't see it as a
potential winner in the way I see the titles listed above.

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