Least Favorite Reggae Artists?
Mr. Ellington
acts....My list is as follows....
1. Big Mountain
2. Red Rat
3. Jigsy King
4. Determine
5. Pato Banton (music made in the last 5 years...VERY CORNY!!!)
6. Scare Dem Crew
7. Monster Shack
Robert Nelson
"Mr. Ellington" wrote:
Add Christafari for their religious imperialism entwined with reggae
Robert
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>
>
Peter J. Gough
Buju Banton
Sizzla
Shaggy*
Snow*
(*consider themselves as reggae but I don't)
Lars Rindelöf
at peter...@sympatico.ca wrote on 1-02-26 21.46:
What kind of man would put Buju Banton on a list of "least favourite"
reggae-artists... I am amazed.
Lars
ashanti
in the business.
dont agree with those two selections.
Lars Rindelöf
Impossible question... but to name a few contemporay Jamaican artists, or
artists working within the Jamaica scene, as MH, I simply can´t stand:
1. Ricky Rudie
2. Gabrielle
3. Morgan Heritage ( for not `bringing back reggae home´, but pushing it
backwards)
Yes I did like the "Protect Us Jah" album, but there is something about
them, something in their (hippie) approach that just makes me sick...Can´t
explain it further...
Lars
in article 3A9AABA4...@library.utah.edu, Robert Nelson at
rne...@library.utah.edu wrote on 1-02-26 20.16:
john-terry
for It Now", or Jonathon King - as the Piglets - "Johnny Reggae".
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2. Eek a Mouse
3. Shabba Ranks
4. Bunny Wailer
These are just a few off the top of my head. I Don`t "hate" the above
artists. They are just not particular favorites.
Akee123
live act was nothing but chaos. Maybe they've improved??
Rob
Peter J. Gough
> reggae-artists... I am amazed.
>
> Lars
I would. Buju can't decide if he's a gun slinger or Jah's Messenger.
Besides I have no room in my heart for gay-bashing lyrics. It's just a
personal thing, but who the heck wants to listen to "Batty Bwoy" nonsense?
Not I.
Alex Brosgart
to say about something best to say nothing.
--
Alex
Mattmattyo
favorite. Dont you think reggae, in all its forms, has a hard enough time as
it is? some a dem sing bout battbwoy, some a sing peace and love.
messian dread
May I wish you Peace and Love
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Peter J. Gough
Hahaha we can't agree on a single thing my brother! Oh well, no
consequence. Well, I'm not an idiot, I just tried to take the positive from
his albums (and there is much more positive than negative on Sizzla
records). But when I saw the video I realized that it was too much to keep
supprting his releases. Another factor was how predictable and boring
everything after Good Ways and Black Woman & Child was. Seems like a boxing
match with you, mate. Care for another round?
Peter
"Lars Rindelöf" <lars.r...@chello.se> wrote in message
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>
> Not to be picky about it, but If it took the video of J:R´ss birthday bash
> for you to realize a thing or two, you could not have paid that much of
> attention to the lyrics of your Sizzla albums... That kind of
"eclamations"
> are all over them...
> Maybe your entire record-collection needs a spring-cleaning... You might
be
> up for more unpleasant surprises...
>
> Lars
>
>
>
>
> in article JqQm6.329844$JT5.11...@news20.bellglobal.com, Peter J. Gough
> at peter...@sympatico.ca wrote on 1-02-27 17.17:
>
> > Lars,
> >
> > I used to own ''Til Shiloh' until I heard 'Boom Bye Bye'. I also owned
> > every Sizzla cd from 'Praise Ye Jah' to 'Be I Strong' (including the
bootleg
> > 'Hotter Than Fire'!) until I bought a video of Junior Reid's birthday
bash
> > and Sizzla said 'burn batty-man, burn lesbian'. I sold em quickly for 8
> > bucks each at a used cd store. I was happy to get rid of them.
> > I know it's culture and I don't expect everyone to agree, but even
Luciano
> > has split with Sizzla, saying his and Sizzla's philosophies don't match
> > anymore. No-one else HAS to agree with me and I don't have to agree
with
> > them! ;-) The thread was 'least favorite reggae artists?' and I listed
mine
> > because I think if Rasta wanna love and spread peace, that it should
exclude
> > homosexuals. I have no problem with 'em because what they do doesn't
hurt
> > me.
> >
> > Anyways, off to my afternoon class,
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > "Lars Rindelöf" <lars.r...@chello.se> wrote in message
> > news:B6C18435.D4D0%lars.r...@chello.se...
> >>
> >> Ok. I can respect that.
> >>
> >> But the truth is that Buju has never been much of a "Gun Slinger", as
you
> >> put it, that is, recorded that many "Gun-Tunes"...
> >>
> >> Moreover, for many rastas there seem to be no contradiction whatsoever
in
> >> writing anti-gay lyrics (or to touch upon the subject within songs in a
> > more
> >> or less subtle way) and being a so-called "righteous Rasta". Rather the
> >> opposite. It is nothing new to reggae music, besides its being more
> > overtly
> >> expressed nowadays. This "trend" with songs cotaining anti-gay lyrics
as
> > it
> >> main subject-matter also seem to slowly go out of fashion again.
> >>
> >> I have not heard many of his (Buju´s) latest 7´, but it was quite some
> > time
> >> now that he wrote that infamous "Boom Bye Bye"(even though I hear that
he
> >> still performs it live from time to time) and since then there has not
> > been
> >> many songs of that kind from his pen.
> >>
> >> But one has to remember that Buju has also produced one of reggaes
> > greatest
> >> masterpieces ever (I believe few on this group would disagree with me)
in
> >> "Til´ Shilo"
> >>
> >> I don´t know how much you have actually heard Sizzla, but with an
already
> >> classic tune like for instance "Praise Ye Jah" in his pocket, he
deserves
> > at
> >> least my respect... Although he has never been that of a favourite of
mine
> >> either.
> >> (if you by any chance is not that familiar with his work, check out
> > the
> >> following albums: "Praise Ye Jah", "Black Woman and Child" and to a
lesser
> >> extent "Freedom Cry". These were the albums that made him
internationally
> >> famous and he has never (and probably will not ever) surpassed any of
> > them.
> >> And they are actually very good, all three of them.
> >>
> >>
> >> Lars
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> in article THCm6.324733$JT5.10...@news20.bellglobal.com, Peter J.
Gough
> >> at peter...@sympatico.ca wrote on 1-02-27 01.40:
Peter J. Gough
numerous posts of entire interviews where he speaks quite candidly of the
whole thing. It all went downhill between the two shortly after '3 Wise
Men' came out...
Peter
OriginalYawdy
that same feeling back. And, that's where reggae is today. Yes, I think it
needs to be harshly criticized, probably then we can weed out the elements that
have taken down this great music for so long. I find it hard to feel sorry for
people who have used the music to cast judgement on any and everything that
they feel like, so why shouldn't they also be judged? Reggae has had a hard
time simply because the new breed of reggae stars (name dancehall) have lied to
the people, they have not been sincere and quite frankly, don't know what
they're talking about. No, there will never be another Bob Marley, but after
leaving us with such high standers, how could we have regressed so much? How
could we have regressed into a bunch of " blood, brimstone and fire taunting
wanna bes"? I think the answer is that we're all to blame. We who patronized
the slackness in the 80's and early 90's. We who accepted mediocrity just
because it had the words Jah, Selassie and or god mentioned in it and we who
were so willing to blindly follow an ideology that we lost all sense of what
the music was all about.
We've allowed a bunch of semi- illiterates like Capleton, Sizzla and Anthony B
(to name a few), to guide us down a path of musical destruction. If reggae is
to survive these people need to be criticized in order for them to understand
that we expect better from them or leave the business to real musicians.
>InI do agree, is good to be critical, but
>as Mattmattyo already wrote,
>Reggae has had a hard time already, it is time to do some
>Uplifting and Positive for Jah Music.
>So betta be critical inna good, irie and upful way,
>remember,....most Reggae Artists stand for something,
>badbwoy, peace and love or anything, but they do stand up....
>
>If you want to talk about LEAST favorite,
>try the commercial Babylon Music for instance.
>InI rest my case
>Blessin's
>dr.Sprok
>"Nicola" <n...@funk.com> schreef in bericht
>news:3A9B9E0B...@funk.com...
Lars Rindelöf
Well, maybe does not have to agree with each other. Anyway, I just would
like to make it clear that I am in no way a supporter of all the gay-bashing
going on... But I have to say that it frightens me more when people (like
Sizzla and Capleton) uses religious motifs to justify such a beliefs, than
listening to people like Elephantman runnig around posing like a badman and
adressing the same issue...I have never cared for the religious side
normally or traditionally associated (many people seem to confuse things and
automatically equals Reggae with Rastafarian beliefs) reggae- music as it in
no way represents my personal beliefs. I actually think the whole thing its
pretty screwed up (some will probably hate me for this). And the result?
People like Sizzla, bringing these beliefs to its logical consequence. The
Old Testament is not a book of love. The often literal (as opposed to a
metapohrical such or a hermeneutical) reading of it togehter with the
strange mixture of their tradional Orthodox Chrisianity and their own blend
of Africanism composes a rather strange mixture in my opinion... But of
course, there are as many personal and individual interpretations as there
are people... Just don´t agree with the overall concept of it.
Lars
in article tGUm6.330593$JT5.11...@news20.bellglobal.com, Peter J. Gough
at peter...@sympatico.ca wrote on 1-02-27 22.07:
Niklas Lavesson
IF the thing I've heard from several people is true: that he said
"burn all white people" many o times at a concert recently,
and that some of his fellow artist friends have stopped working with
him since those statements..
I'm white.... but I DON'T place people into different categories because of
their color or any other thing and i have FULL understanding of the feelings
that black people in the caribbean (to name one place) bear with them
because
of what has happened in history and of what's happening now, but i don't
think
HATE will overcome those feelings.
If Sizzla is a rastafarian believer, doesn't he believe in Haile Selassie's
words:
"till the color of a man is of no more significance than the color of his
eyes, there will be war".
one love
/Niklas
"Lars Rindelöf" <lars.r...@chello.se> skrev i meddelandet
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> Me Neither.
>
>
> (the same goes for Toots Hibbert, although that is a differnt thing
> altogheter...)
>
>
>
>
>
> in article slrn99npou....@ftp.fiyabun.com, ashanti at
> ash...@ftp.fiyabun.com wrote on 1-02-27 18.45:
>
> > blasphemy!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > In article <nmrm9tsqq89hjfe1k...@4ax.com>, messian dread
wrote:
Lars Rindelöf
righteous songs (that is an just a myth). "Slackness" is as much part of the
culture like anything else and it always has. The actual boundries for what
is allowed to be expressed or said in a song has moved a bit, but not really
changed. Exactly like in the rest of the world. Songs with an overtly sexual
context has been there all along and there are examples of songs dating from
the sixties that still makes most people blush.
Every generation has to challange the generation that preceded it.
What kind of music do you want?
What kind of standards to you want reggae-music to reach?
Is it not this versitality and is willingness to push new boundries what
makes Jamaican music such a living force still today?
Bob Marley belongs to the past and made songs fitting into those specific
conditions and the exsisting social context of that time.
Give the youths a chance!
And if you believe someone is lying to you, you better listen to someone
else. (Some people lie sometimes, but all of the people seldom lie all of
the time)
Lars
in article 20010227164407...@ng-mm1.aol.com, OriginalYawdy at
origin...@aol.com wrote on 1-02-27 22.44:
Lars Rindelöf
I actually think he does.
He just interprets them in slightly diffrent way than you seem to do.
Lars
in article wEVm6.20876$AH6.2...@newsc.telia.net, Niklas Lavesson at
niklas....@telia.com wrote on 1-02-27 23.13:
ashanti
if you did you would not mention his name in
any negative post.
i think it all boils down to this:
you support reggae as long as it fits into
your ideaology of 'one love' 'smoke a joint
be happy' crap.
well this is new millenium ghetto people music. music that
sings about injustice and corruption.
but instead of being nice about it, the youts
of today are coming hard. we demand something happens
now. not when heaven comes to earth.. now!
so whatever system or oragnization stands in the way
of achieving this goal, fiya mus bun.
and no it is not GOP or NRA.
Mattmattyo
Lars Rindelöf
Well put. I agee with you 100%.
Especially with the second paragraph.
(God, am I tired with those kind of people?)
Lars
in article slrn99oau7....@ftp.fiyabun.com, ashanti at
ash...@ftp.fiyabun.com wrote on 1-02-28 00.08:
Cryst...@webtv.net
what church doesn't go fire and brimstone
what system does not have it's chaotic element that brings about the
next change?
if you don't wanna hear it,
shut down your ears...
but IMO we need all aspects of the message to turn the next corner.
much respect,
Crystal
Peter J. Gough
>
> you support reggae as long as it fits into
> your ideaology of 'one love' 'smoke a joint
> be happy' crap.
I KNOW you're not talking to me because I don't smoke, drink, do any drugs
but drink tea and I eat no living creature, and wear no creature as
clothing...
So, ashanti, if you ARE directing this post towards me, just remember that
about a week ago YOU posted wanting to know what 'Kalonji' and 'batty bwoy'
meant. How can you defend one and not even know one!!!
Peter
ashanti
for starters search dejanews.com.. i bet you $100
that i did not ask what kalonji means.. nor
did i ask what a battyman is.
i think i am more resourceful then some clown off the street.
i usually do research with my fav search engines 'www.google.com'
and 'www.dejanews.com' before i ask here.
so stick it up your "natural" ass!
cause unless you grow cotton, sew the shit yourself,
and grow the food yourself, your ass is not natural.
some guy had to haul all that shit in a gas burning
truck.
said truck more than likely has leather seats, and the guy
driving it has leather shoes.... so no matter what you do this
time and age it is not wholly natural.
looks like its time to revise your save the earth
strategy.
serious!
by the way, i am getting fitted for a leather coat
this evening.
and.. my new car will come with the eddie baur package.
Peter J. Gough
safely assume the level of intelligence of this listener. Glad I sold off
all my Sizzla gear months and months ago. I'd hate to be you on that
dreaded day...
God Speed,
Peter J. Gough
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jah bill
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<snip a bunch of ashanti making perfect sense>
> so whatever system or oragnization stands in the way
> of achieving this goal, fiya mus bun.
>
> and no it is not GOP or NRA.
ashanti, youre really coming along. now lets hear you fiya bun rush because
he is all of that and more.
<ducking>
one love
jah bill
jah bill
for most all of the other world religions. that was my realization in the
beginning, long ago, of my accepting rasta as a legitimate religion
--
one love
rasta 4 I
jah bill
"Lars Rindelöf" <lars.r...@chello.se> wrote in message
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ashanti
under heavy stress. so needed to vent.. too bad i took it out
on someone i didnt know.
i apologize for the unneeded comments. as always my mouth speaks
before my brain.
thanks!
ashanti
i burn out rush too.. i also bun out racist republicans.
i wouldnt say i am complete republican.. i would say
i vote for whoevers policies are less intrusuve on my
rights.
currently GW's policies seem to fit that criteria.
Niklas Lavesson
/Niklas
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Lars Rindelöf
I did not try to be disrespectful in a generall way. I believe "Rasta" to be
as much an legitimate religion as every other religion. And I really respect
people embracing it. I was just trying to explain my own personal feelings
towards it (in a rather clumpsy way, I agree. You can´t critize (and really
should not) or explain such a complex thing as religions concepts in a few
lines.) Just can´t see that what people like for instance Sizzla is doing as
contradictory to the overall concept of it, rather as its logical
conclusion. And I also do respect Sizza. I believe I can seee where he and
Capleton is coming from (in as much that is possible at all for an
"outsider"). I am not that fund of him as an artist, but that is a diffrent
story alltoghter. Personally I have never been attracted to those ideas
(Rastafarian ideas, that is) at all and those "ideas" were not the reason
why I started to listen to reggae-music. And as I said somewhere else, it
always irritates me when people equals reggae-music to rastafarian beliefs.
Respect
Lars
in article 97hrm...@news2.newsguy.com, jah bill at wj...@dgweb.com wrote
on 1-02-28 04.37:
Werner de Bruijn
> But the truth is that Buju has never been much of a "Gun Slinger", as you
> put it, that is, recorded that many "Gun-Tunes"...
"All gunman, big up unnu chest! Go tell dem, go tell dem, gun unnu want, tell
dem we run dat, the amount a gun we have we cyan run outta stock, go warn dem.
Gun unnu want, tell dem we run dat, a we own the gun an we run the gunshop. Tell
dem a me, from me the bwoy get the uzi, etc...".
Sounds familiar? ;-)
But well, he was just a kid then...
> Moreover, for many rastas there seem to be no contradiction whatsoever in
> writing anti-gay lyrics (or to touch upon the subject within songs in a more
> or less subtle way) and being a so-called "righteous Rasta".
I was thinking almost the exact same thing a few days ago when I was listening
to the gay bashing "mama man" by Sister Candy from the album BlackCulture. It
occurred to me that she doesn't really have a lot of interesting things to say
on the whole album, mainly lyrics that dozens of others before her used, and
that particular tune sounds like she is just repeating stuff that she thinks is
'righteous', without having given it much thought herself.
(maybe it's more a Jamaican thing than a rasta thing though).
Werner.
*************************************************
"Strickly Drum an' Bass mek yu wine up yu waist!"
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Peter J. Gough
no problem. let's end this bickering man, this thread is STALE!!
peace,
Peter
OriginalYawdy
republican?…. lol
From some of your past posts I could even call you a moron but I won't, I
prefer to think of you as naive.
MJKuelker
Reggae Artist":
>Hmmm doesn't that make you somewhat of an oxymoron, being a reggae-loving
>republican?…. lol
Nearly all my reggae friends are independent-minded liberals (and hopefully,
that's never an oxymoron!). But doesn't it strike you that JA'can music has a
politically conservative dimension? On one hand, there are people who venerate
a right-wing emperor in Ethiopia. On the other hand, you have JA'can pop music
lovers digging anti-battymon lyrics (and aren't cultural conservatives the ones
who get bent out of shape about that?). On top of that, I know plenty JA'cans
who are in favor of capital punishment, typically a conservative position.
And certainly, there's more to add about the conservative angle to JA, Rasta,
dancehall and the rest -- which, fortunately, are too big for any sweeping
political categories or programs (and that's a good, good thing). In any event,
we can see a lot of conservative elements under the banner.
--Michael Kuelker
ashanti
well buddy.. you go on your name calling spree..
but if you believe i am a moron because i give boom
salutes to rightous tunes and artists, then i guess
you dont share the same enthusiasm as me.
thanks!
Robert Nelson
ashanti wrote:
> you must not listen to any of anthony b's lyrics.
> if you did you would not mention his name in
> any negative post.
> i think it all boils down to this:
>
> you support reggae as long as it fits into
> your ideaology of 'one love' 'smoke a joint
> be happy' crap.
>
> well this is new millenium ghetto people music. music that
> sings about injustice and corruption.
> but instead of being nice about it, the youts
> of today are coming hard. we demand something happens
> now. not when heaven comes to earth.. now!
Totally agree. It might not be popular to admit this is true, but I'm
sure that Sizzla couldn't give a rat's ass if someone sells his CDs back
to the used record store b/c he holds a conviction that isn't culturally
popular in the US of A
>
> so whatever system or oragnization stands in the way
> of achieving this goal, fiya mus bun.
>
> and no it is not GOP or NRA.
I think Luciano is great, but he's gwan international and he's not gonna
put those efforts at risk by aligning himself with Sizzla's fire and
brimstone. Yet he best be careful that he has a place to return to once
the fickle mainstream music industry passes him by.
Robert
OriginalYawdy
Being Jamaican it always pisses me off when people like you try to insinuate
that Jamaican obsess about slackness more than any other culture. As a person
who has traveled and knows that there is a red light district in almost ever
major city in Europe and America, I hardly think Jamaicans have the patent on
slackness. As Jamaicans, what we don't like is the denigration and total
disrespect of our women and live in general. We've watched greedy politician
deprive the people of education which would have encourage and enforce their
self-respect and their respect for others. This educational deprivation forced
the mostly uneducated youths to fan for themselves by any means necessary. No
one is arguing that reggae is only about roots and culture. Reggae has always
dealt with a wide variety of topics from politics and religion to love and
romance that has never been the issue. What is the issue is the new so-call
reggae stars knowledgeable ill-equipped, coming to the forefront spewing their
venomous rhetoric. Now I want you to understand that I don't really care how it
affects you, what I care about is how it affect the other uneducated youths and
the coming generation in Jamaica. Because more than likely your culture or
country has educated you to know the difference. So you can sit back in Sweden
or wherever you're from and defend something that you have no idea the
repercussion it causes.
Now you talk about pushing the boundaries as if that is something new to reggae
(that makes me laugh). That's what the damn music is all about, in case you
didn't know. In my opinion this generation has not challenged the preceding
one, if anything it has been quite disappointing. It has been trite and vague
in it's political and religious argument and it has certainly not presented us
with that much new music considering all the done over rhythms. As far as Bob
is concerned, he may be from the past but his music is still very relevant and
his popularity attest to that. I don't have to listen to anything else; I
listen to reggae because it apart of who I am. And I can criticize as much as I
want because I feel like.
Cryst...@webtv.net
much respect,
Crystal
OriginalYawdy
argument as to your likes and dislike of the artists, music and their rhetoric.
You've identified so much of the follies that I also have a grouse with. So, I
think it comes back to my point that I was clumsily trying to make that you're
fortunate enough to be educated to know the difference. Just imagine for a
moment all the youths that are uneducated living in the ghetto. Out of despair
they turn to people like Sizzla and Capleton, why? Because they know that these
artists have traveled abroad which makes them feel that what they're (artist)
saying is being endorsed by people like you and the rest of the world (hope
you're following me). Now, I don't know if you know what it's like when a group
comes back to Jamaica from tour. The bragging, as to the success of the trip is
often times torturous to the people who can't go and probably never will. But
what is more damaging is the idea that they have to do, say and believe the
same thing in order to be as successful as the ones that travel (are you still
with me). So, now you go down town Kingston and the studios are packed with all
these youths, uneducated, all lining up to "lick a tune" so that they can be
like Capleton and Sizzla. This whole idea is driven by the belief that the
rhetoric is right because the rest of the world has accepted it.
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to throw this on anyone shoulders,
because you have the right to buy and support whatever you feel. I just see it
as a viscous cycle. When S. Africa was under apartheid, I boycotted gold and
diamonds because I knew what black people went through. Again, I'm no asking
for the boycott of reggae, let me make that clear. All I'm asking for is some
accountability as to the standard of the music. This I expect from the artists,
not from the people who support them.
For you it's probably just the love of the music, for me it's the love of
culture, music, people and country. You may have noticed that I've not
mentioned the Jamaican government, well that's because they're not worth
mentioning. They've betrayed the people too much for too long. So, with that in
mind I think its time the people help themselves and that's where I think the
music play a big part. Drastic times calls for drastic measures. With all the
so-call culture music that came out of Jamaica last year, it was still able to
have a recording braking murder toll of over 650 murders. This is just murder,
shit! For a small island that's a fucking lot.
Anyway, I know I've strayed a bit but I did so in order to show why reggae
itself needs to be criticized. You see, apart from the people, who just get
entertainment and enjoyment from it, there is a ton load that believes it's the
way out. And I, for one, would feel very irresponsible in making them think
that the rhetoric is right.
<<<Well, maybe does not have to agree with each other. Anyway, I just would
<like to make it clear that I am in no way a supporter of all the gay-bashing
<going on... But I have to say that it frightens me more when people (like
Sizzla and Capleton) uses religious motifs to justify such a beliefs, than
listening to people like Elephantman runnig around posing like a badman and
adressing the same issue...I have never cared for the religious side
normally or traditionally associated (many people seem to confuse things and
automatically equals Reggae with Rastafarian beliefs) reggae- music as it in
no way represents my personal beliefs. I actually think the whole thing its
pretty screwed up (some will probably hate me for this). And the result?
People like Sizzla, bringing these beliefs to its logical consequence. The
Old Testament is not a book of love. The often literal (as opposed to a
NoNiceTime
changed his style you know. As far as a gun slinger I never heard Buju promote
guns in his past 3 CD's.
messian dread
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:13:48 GMT, "Niklas Lavesson"
<niklas....@telia.com> wrote:
>I would like to put sizzla at the top of the least list.
>IF the thing I've heard from several people is true: that he said
>"burn all white people" many o times at a concert recently,
>and that some of his fellow artist friends have stopped working with
>him since those statements..
>I'm white.... but I DON'T place people into different categories because of
>their color or any other thing and i have FULL understanding of the feelings
>that black people in the caribbean (to name one place) bear with them
>because
>of what has happened in history and of what's happening now, but i don't
>think
>HATE will overcome those feelings.
>If Sizzla is a rastafarian believer, doesn't he believe in Haile Selassie's
>words:
>"till the color of a man is of no more significance than the color of his
>eyes, there will be war".
>
>one love
>
>/Niklas
>
>
>"Lars Rindelöf" <lars.r...@chello.se> skrev i meddelandet
>news:B6C1A768.D529%lars.r...@chello.se...
>> Me Neither.
>>
>>
>> (the same goes for Toots Hibbert, although that is a differnt thing
>> altogheter...)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> in article slrn99npou....@ftp.fiyabun.com, ashanti at
>> ash...@ftp.fiyabun.com wrote on 1-02-27 18.45:
>>
>> > blasphemy!!!!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > In article <nmrm9tsqq89hjfe1k...@4ax.com>, messian dread
>wrote:
>> >> I can't get used to the voice of Bob Andy.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:38:38 -0500 (EST), PAPAR...@webtv.net (Mr.
>> >> Ellington) wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I was wondering if the group had a list of "least favorite" reggae
>> >>> acts....My list is as follows....
>> >>> 1. Big Mountain
>> >>> 2. Red Rat
>> >>> 3. Jigsy King
>> >>> 4. Determine
>> >>> 5. Pato Banton (music made in the last 5 years...VERY CORNY!!!)
>> >>> 6. Scare Dem Crew
>> >>> 7. Monster Shack
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> May I wish you Peace and Love
>> >>
>> >> Messian Dread
>> >> My Music: http://www.mp3.com/mdread
>> >> Visit the Dubroom: http://www.dubroom.com
>> >> original reggae in midi and mp3
>> >> loops - articles - interviews - forum
>>
>
May I wish you Peace and Love
Messian Dread
My Music: http://www.mp3.com/mdread
Visit the Dubroom: http://www.dubroom.com
original reggae in midi and mp3
loops - articles - interviews - forum
Robert Nelson
NoNiceTime wrote:
I guess he's got to pay for his past "sins" the whole of his career
Robert
Mr. Ellington
disliked...(smile).....
zavla
Month" ;-)
roland z
"Mr. Ellington" <PAPAR...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Mr. Ellington
first thank all of the self-righteous, board up the posterior annoyingly
clueless reggae "fans" that can't accept criticism of the music for it's
own good. I'd also like to thank the big-time record companies for
screwing up the thinking of such artists as Shaggy, Maxi Priest and
Beenie Man and making them think that it's fine to release CRAP.....I
have no problem with an occasional cross-over attempt, but damn...don't
bastardize the music and make it soulless and sterile!!! I'd like to
thank everyone for their participation in this very heated
discussion.....I'll be thinking of something else to
DISCUSS......As-Salaam-Alaikum
Robert Nelson
"Mr. Ellington" wrote:
> Well....In accepting my Trouble Maker Of The Month Award, I'd like to
> first thank all of the self-righteous, board up the posterior annoyingly
> clueless reggae "fans" that can't accept criticism of the music for it's
> own good.
Whenever these discussions come up and people nay say about "negativity" in
reality it serves just to ossify mediocrity. All reggae is great because
it's reggae sort of booshwah. I say Big Up yourself there Papa Robbie for
liveli-fying the group. If reggae is a valid artform it can survive any
informed criticism about it or its artists. People who step into the public
spotlight should have the intestinal fortitude to survive someone saying
"your music sucks" without being slapped with the erroneous understanding
that "you suck".
Robert
Buju127
"messian dread" <nos...@dub.at.dubroom.point.com> wrote in message
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Buju127
crossovers in all type of music.
"Mr. Ellington" <PAPAR...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Mr. Ellington
Mr. Ellington
Allen Kaatz
wrote:
>Hmmm doesn't that make you somewhat of an oxymoron, being a reggae-loving
>republican?…. lol
There's more of them than you would think... anything is possible in
California.
Al
rya iandia
lyrics and thought he was enlightened! Does he say dis foolishness only
at shows? YESHUA I and YAHWEH see no color ! JAH YAHWEH only see's his
children ! We should come together and live in peace. . .LOVE THY
BROTHER and SISTER AS I-SELF!
Peace & Love !
Yeshuan Disciple
messian dread
wrote:
>Sizzla is wrong there is no two ways about it.
I was thinking about the possibility to see "white" as the name of the
"white superiority" philosophy and thing. But I must be honost I don't
really check dancehall because of the big american hip hop vibe and I
don't really know what Sizzla means with "white".
If he means literally to bun all people with a pale or white
complexion (is that how it's officialy called) and he says so in front
of a european audience I think by doing it that way he makes a fool of
himself.
If your pride and I should say dignity is not in your skin color but
depending on downgrading other people with a different skin color you
should seriously ask any Rasta eldest why black people were enslaved
and you should come to the conclusion that we're all coming seriously
short on the glory of Jah.
Here we have the strange situation, that reggae music is influenced by
american things more then african things. Anyway, I'd rather bun
Rizzla then any man regardless of skin color. Nuff said.
Bjahn1
> changed his style you know. >>
<< I guess he's got to pay for his past "sins" the whole of his career
>>
When Buju plays Boom Bye Bye in JA the crowds go CRAZY .. so I guess he hasn't
changed his style completly, and as he said, he has no apologies for the song
...