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NoNiceTime

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Oct 26, 2000, 9:26:44 AM10/26/00
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To my knowlegde which is limited compared to some on RMR I cant remeber a Bobo
artist before the 90's. Who was the first Bobo reggae artist?thx

Jesse Nonneman

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Oct 26, 2000, 10:54:22 AM10/26/00
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NoNiceTime wrote:
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> To my knowlegde which is limited compared to some on RMR I cant remeber a Bobo
> artist before the 90's. Who was the first Bobo reggae artist?thx


Junior Reid is a long time Bobo, and he seems to be regarded as a real
father of that movement by many Bobo artists I've interviewed.

maximum respect to the man too... anyone catch his single "More Fire"
from a few months ago? out-and-out killer! Will make my top 5 for 2000
easily I think...

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Olli Loikala

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Oct 26, 2000, 9:55:12 AM10/26/00
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Jesse Nonneman wrote in message <39F8459E...@cnl.com.au>...

>NoNiceTime wrote:
>>
>> To my knowlegde which is limited compared to some on RMR I cant remeber
a Bobo
>> artist before the 90's. Who was the first Bobo reggae artist?th

I remember reading somewhere that Prince Alla lived in a bobo camp for some
time in the 70´s. Don´t know if that makes him really a Bobo, still.

>Junior Reid is a long time Bobo, and he seems to be regarded as a real
>father of that movement by many Bobo artists I've interviewed.

Yes, Jr. Reid might have been one of the first artists getting into the bobo
thing, but I think that was in the early 90´s. At least during the Uhuru
days, he didn´t look like it or sing about it. I don´t know him personally
so can´t be sure, of course.

>
>maximum respect to the man too... anyone catch his single "More Fire"
>from a few months ago? out-and-out killer! Will make my top 5 for 2000
>easily I think...

Sounds great! Have to check it out....

Cheers,
Olli

Arto Airio

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Oct 26, 2000, 10:08:57 AM10/26/00
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I don't know who the first one was but I have a Creation Rights-label 7"
from the late 70s with a title "Devil beating stick" by an artist called
Bobo Shanty. Who is he? Probably some bobo, I'd guess.

Cheers,
Arto


NoNiceTime

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Oct 26, 2000, 10:16:09 AM10/26/00
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True that what I was thinking. He must of made the transition(if you want to
call it that) within the psat ten years. I dont remember him as bobo in the
80's and even the early 90's.

Werner de Bruijn

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Oct 26, 2000, 10:30:27 AM10/26/00
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Olli Loikala wrote:

> Yes, Jr. Reid might have been one of the first artists getting into the bobo

> thing, but I think that was in the early 90愀. At least during the Uhuru
> days, he didn愒 look like it or sing about it. I don愒 know him personally
> so can愒 be sure, of course.

Hey Olli, I seem to remember showing you a cover of a recent Jr. Reid album when
we were shopping in Amsterdam and saying "Look, Jr.Reid looks like Capleton
these days", right?
So, if he *is* on of the bobo veterans in reggae, he at least isn't the one who
is setting the trends for clothing fashion among them ;-)

Werner.

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roland z

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Oct 26, 2000, 11:22:23 AM10/26/00
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In article <20001026092644...@ng-bd1.aol.com>,

Several members of the Abyssinians, if you'll recall from their album
covers, wore the turban, so I assume that they were Bobo.

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Bjahn1

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Oct 26, 2000, 11:59:44 AM10/26/00
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<< I seem to remember showing you a cover of a recent Jr. Reid album when
we were shopping in Amsterdam and saying "Look, Jr.Reid looks like Capleton
these days", right?
So, if he *is* on of the bobo veterans in reggae, he at least isn't the one who
is setting the trends for clothing fashion among them ;-)
>>


That kills me, the Bobo talk of this anti material babylon stuff.........then
you see various certain artists driving in their Million dollar car , pretty
clothes and jewelry ..fiya bun Babylon, right.......

Harald Hammarstrom

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Oct 26, 2000, 3:42:43 PM10/26/00
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> > To my knowlegde which is limited compared to some on RMR I cant remeber a Bobo
> > artist before the 90's. Who was the first Bobo reggae artist?thx
>
> Junior Reid is a long time Bobo, and he seems to be regarded as a real
> father of that movement by many Bobo artists I've interviewed.

yes i would think so too but Prince Allah spent 7 years or so at the
camp in the 70s or so although I don't know if he recorded during that
time. Probably not.

mvh

Harald


Harald Hammarstrom

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Oct 26, 2000, 3:48:22 PM10/26/00
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> > To my knowlegde which is limited compared to some on RMR I cant
> remeber a Bobo
> > artist before the 90's. Who was the first Bobo reggae artist?thx
> >
>
> Several members of the Abyssinians, if you'll recall from their album
> covers, wore the turban, so I assume that they were Bobo.

I wouldn't assume that, a typical Bobo would hold Emmanuel as a
semi-christ, which at least I've seen no signs of with the abyss.
The Bobos hadn't yet moved up to Bull Bay in the early seventies
so there's of course a good chance of abyssinians-emmanuelites
interaction anyway.

mvh

Harald

TG

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Oct 26, 2000, 6:15:55 PM10/26/00
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> yes i would think so too but Prince Allah spent 7 years or so at the
> camp in the 70s or so although I don't know if he recorded during that
> time. Probably not.

Prince Alla lived in the Rasta camp in Bull Bay, just outside Kingston.
From the late 60s to the early to mid 70s. He went to live and level the
vibes with Prince Emmanuel, who is the "founder" of the sect/movement. I'm
not sure if Alla was a Bobo strictly and entirely going in, but certainly
was after he came back to town.

He recorded before and after his stint in Bull Bay, but as far as I know,
none while living there. He was a fisherman in the 80s for much of the
time, so perhaps he was in these earlier, formative days as well.

The Bobo "movement" has taken off in recent years, in my opinion, because
it is much more aggressive and active then Rasta "movements" in the past.
It all started with Nyabinghi, and pretty nobody paid attention to them
(went the opposite way in fact) until Wailers got big. Then 12 Tribes was
the thing. Both of them were all about Peace & Love, Equal Rights and
Justice. But the Bobo thing is different all together. Fiya Bunnin
everything seems to fit the frustrated youth a little better.

tg

roland z

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Oct 26, 2000, 6:55:55 PM10/26/00
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In article <20001026115944...@ng-bk1.aol.com>,

Nothing wrong with enjoying the fruits of one'e labors ;-)

Bjahn1

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Oct 26, 2000, 8:06:14 PM10/26/00
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<<
Several members of the Abyssinians, if you'll recall from their album
covers, wore the turban, so I assume that they were Bobo.
>>


Turbans alone do not a Bobo make......or something like that

roland z

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Oct 27, 2000, 12:14:43 AM10/27/00
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In article <20001026200614...@ng-bd1.aol.com>,

True, but if you're a rasta in Ja. among rastas, and you sport THAT
particular style of turban, surely it must have some significance . . .
it's kinda like wearing "colors" in certain parts of LA, California
(red vs blue = Crips vs. Bloods, etc.). Anya the "herb lady" would
probably know ;-) (I don't think I've seen her post here in a while,
though).

TG

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Oct 27, 2000, 10:48:53 AM10/27/00
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> The Bobos hadn't yet moved up to Bull Bay in the early seventies

I'm not sure. Prince Alla just told me a few weeks ago that Bull Bay is
where he moved in the late 60s, and it was definitely a Bobo camp. So he
could soak up the teachings of Prince Emmanuel. I could have, of course,
misheard or misunderstood.

tg

Rastapoodle

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Oct 27, 2000, 9:01:49 PM10/27/00
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 04:14:43 GMT, roland z <rolan...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>In article <20001026200614...@ng-bd1.aol.com>,
> bja...@aol.com (Bjahn1) wrote:
>> Several members of the Abyssinians, if you'll recall from their album
>> covers, wore the turban, so I assume that they were Bobo.
>> Turbans alone do not a Bobo make......or something like that
>>
>True, but if you're a rasta in Ja. among rastas, and you sport THAT
>particular style of turban, surely it must have some significance . . .
>it's kinda like wearing "colors" in certain parts of LA, California
>(red vs blue = Crips vs. Bloods, etc.). Anya the "herb lady" would
>probably know ;-) (I don't think I've seen her post here in a while,
>though).
>
>roland z

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PS I'll ask Donald Manning about the Bobo thread -- but I think he'll answer
what someone posted earlier, -- they were before the Bobo influence, just
wearing tams. Later........

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Harald Hammarstrom

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Oct 29, 2000, 9:32:07 PM10/29/00
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hi messian
muta is no more a bobo than he is anything else, or have I missed
something? I repeat: to be a Bobo you should at least recognise
Prince Emmanuel as a prophet, if not as a semi-divinity. To be
a Bobo is not wearing a turban and a gown, actually not everyone inside
the camp wears the turban.

mvh

Harald

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> On 26 Oct 2000 13:26:44 GMT, nonic...@aol.com (NoNiceTime) wrote:
>
> > To my knowlegde which is limited compared to some on RMR I cant remeber a Bobo
> >artist before the 90's. Who was the first Bobo reggae artist?thx
>

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Harald Hammarstrom

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Oct 29, 2000, 9:42:15 PM10/29/00
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He probably meant he moved to stay with the Edwardites whose camp
finally settled in Bull Bay sometime around 73 (i could check this
up). First they were at ackee walk where they had been for many years
(maybe even since the 1958 convention I don't know), but they had to
move in 1968 for the place to be bulldozed. They moved around a bit
in Kingston, harris street, spanish town road, eighth street (I could
be mixing these up since I don't actually know where these streets
are) but they were still in Kingston in 72-73 when Joseph Owens
conducted the research for his book "Dread: The Rastafarians of
Jamaica". Allah joind them in 1968 (liner notes to the B&F
release i believe) and stayed until 75 so he would have been at
the bull bay camp a couple of years. I think Allah and the
Edwardites were from the same neighbourhood actually. I could
be wrong too of course.

mvh

Harald


Marcus

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Oct 30, 2000, 9:21:56 PM10/30/00
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for the unenlightened, what is Bobo. from reading this thread I have a vague
Idea, but would someone explain it to me more clearly

thanks

Marcus
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roland z

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Oct 31, 2000, 3:11:12 AM10/31/00
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In article <20001030212156...@ng-df1.aol.com>,

ptp...@aol.commiessuck (Marcus ) wrote:
> for the unenlightened, what is Bobo. from reading this thread I have
a vague
> Idea, but would someone explain it to me more clearly
>
> thanks
>
> Marcus


Here's a good article on the subject, Marcus:

http://www.oneworldmagazine.org/focus/etiopia/rasta.html

Marcus

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Oct 31, 2000, 9:49:51 PM10/31/00
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>Here's a good article on the subject, Marcus:
>
>http://www.oneworldmagazine.org/focus/etiopia/rasta.html

Thanks. that explained it pretty well(my guess was way off).

rasadam

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NoNiceTime wrote:

> To my knowlegde which is limited compared to some on RMR I cant remeber a Bobo
> artist before the 90's. Who was the first Bobo reggae artist?thx

Who was the 1st Bobo reggae artist? none! prince eddie shunned secular music.
period. He only believe in nyahbinghi churchical chanting over drums and would
have rejected all these kids with gold watches and lexus claiming they are down
with him. No drum machines no sequencers no keyboards nada. muta had a whole show
with bobo elders on this very topic only have a piece of it on tape if anyone has
the whole show i'd like to hear it. capleton was chanting about holy immanuel I
before Jr Reid donned a grey robe, but no matter there was a slew of wrap head
waggonist to soon folla. are they really bobo or just perporting to be???/ thats
the question.... according to their spiritual leader charles edward's beliefs...
no.


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