Female Voices in Progressive Music
Michael Bonetsmueller
Hello world,
can you recommend female singers with an interesting voice?
My idea of an interesting female voice is not a catholic school choir
voice like Annie Haslam's, but a female equivalent of Peter Hammill or
the like.
Don't get me wrong: I can understand people who like Annie Haslam, but
her (and some other's) voice is too 'pure', 'sweet', 'innocent' to
me. I don't like 'fairy whispers' as Lorena McWhatsHerName's, too. All
in all, too saccharine(sp?).
Much to often, these voices lack expression.
The female voices I like can be found outside the canonical Prog:
- Janis Joplin (check the laughter after Mercedes Benz - it is hair
raising to me),
- Patty Smith (not necessarily a good singer, but very expressive!)
- Inga Rumpf that sang with the german band 'Frumpy'. She sounds like
Janis Joplin with a sore throat...
- Kate Bush: She proofs that a high, clear voice can indeed be
interesting and expressive. 'The Dreaming' is IMHO a VERY progressive
album.
Two criterias for 'interesting' female voices could be:
- expressive voices, voices that are capable to transport feelings.
- 'unpure' voices, voices have a certain erotic touch.
Interestingly, very interesting voices can be found in the billboard
charts. Voices with volume, expression, everything. Unfortunately, the
ladies prefer to sing uninspired pop.
So: Where can I find exciting female prog singers?
I am looking forward to your suggestions!
Best wishes,
Michael.
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Dagmar Krause of Henry Cow/Art Bears/Slapp Happy, for one. She has a very dark,
unique voice (not as gruff as Hammil's, though), and, I think, is extremely
expressive. Some of the best albums to hear her voice on are Henry Cow's _In
Praise of Learning_ and Art Bear's _Hopes and Fears_.
Stella Vander/Thaud Zaia of Magma, who is still sorta in the Haslam
high-soaring vocal category but can do some far out stuff with her voice when
she wants to ("Neber Gudhatt" and "Kreuhn Khorman iss de Hundin" from MDK come
to mind).
Ann Stewart, vocalist for Shub-Niggurath (for a little while) is somewhat of a
mixture of Krause and Haslam, having the high soaring voice of Haslam while
maintaining Dagmar's characteristic coldness. Try _Les Morts Vont Vite_.
Amon Duul II's vocalist Renate Kraup (or something like that, I'm too lazy to
walk over and look at the CD) is like Annie Haslam on lots of LSD. Very
expressive, though, in her own incantory way. Try _Yeti_ or _Phallus Dei_.
I know none of these ladies really fit as "the female equivalent of Peter
Hammil" (Dagmar's close, though), but that's the best I could do.
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Tadashi Nagasaka
I only have "Happens All the Time" (Miramar: 09006-23016-2). Tony Levin,
Jerry Marotta, Larry Fast are back her up.
How about Toyah? I like Sunday All over the World and "Take the Leap!".
"Take the Leap!", She led the kids from Friday Forever (?).
Janita Haan from Babe Ruth. Her singing style is more like strong rock
style. They played Zappa's King Kong in their 1st album, "First Base". I
like all 3 albums. (is there any others?) Her shout sometimes, reminds me of
Janis, too.
If you really want to listen to expressive female vocal, dare you to listen
to Rimitti's "Sidi Mansour" (Absolute ABSOLCD 2). She is an old woman and
has started her career 30's already. She is a famous Algerian trad singer.
It's dirty, and expressive. In this disc, Fripp's frippertronics all over
like destroying the trad music but her strong voice doesn't allow it. I'd
say this is the Fripp's best session work. It's not erotic, though.
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In article <m3aezs7...@fenice.olimpo>, Michael Bonetsmueller
<bon...@hrzpub.tu-darmstadt.de> wrote:
>So: Where can I find exciting female prog singers?
>
Dan B.
for ya.
spacefreak
Who?
Renate Krotenschwanz
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motto
Michael Bonetsmueller <bon...@hrzpub.tu-darmstadt.de> wrote in article
<m3aezs7...@fenice.olimpo>...
>
> Hello world,
>
> can you recommend female singers with an interesting voice?
Try Annette Peacock on Bill Bruford's "Feels Good to Me."
Highly recommended, and for more than the vocals! Holdworth,
Stewart, Berlin, Bruford.
m o t t o
Cecrle
in Gong, particularly on _Camembert Electrique_.
"Mister Long Shanks" is great until her dippy shit starts in, trying to
sound all cosmic and mystical. It just ends up sounding stupid.
-FC
wka...@hotmail.com
Someone you might want to consider is Anneke van Geirsbergen (not sure of
spelling) from the Dutch band The Gathering. They are a heavy/atmospheric
band with some prog tenedencies, at least with the three albums featuring
Anneke on vocals. She sounds like a heavy-metal version of Annie
Haslam...she can hit the higher notes, but much more powerful in the
delivery. I was blown away by her voice the first time I heard her sing!
You can probably find the most recent Gathering releases on Music Boulevard
and/or CDNOW.
Regards,
William Kargel
Atlanta, GA
USA
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> Hello world,
>
> can you recommend female singers with an interesting voice?
>
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AllGdPple
fusion stuff.
another great female voice,.....though not considered prog, is Rickie Lee
Jones......who's done some progressive things if you consider prog to be in
it's essence blues/jazz/classical fusion. what she's done to those blues isn't
ordinary that's for sure. not progrock , but a great progressive musical
mind(IMO)
come to think of it.....Squonk Opera has a couple female voices that are
definitely not ordinary:) don't have their names available
kenny
Dan B.
motto wrote:
> Michael Bonetsmueller <bon...@hrzpub.tu-darmstadt.de> wrote in article
> <m3aezs7...@fenice.olimpo>...
> >
> > Hello world,
> >
> > can you recommend female singers with an interesting voice?
>
Roy DeRousse
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Mike O'Hagan
would recommend. You might also be interested in Siouxsie Sioux. Not a
"progressive" artist but she's among the more distinctive voices out
there.
Nina Hagen put out an amazing album in the early 80's titled
"Nunsexmonkrock". On this release she at times sounds almost like
Dagmar Krause. I also hear a few similarities to Mr. Doctor!
Someone may of already mentioned this but Lisa Gerard of Dead Can Dance
is well worth exploring. Danielle Dax is another to consider.
Proghisattva Dirk Evans
She's also in another group called "Triakel", but, I've not heard it.
Garmarna is a rockified folk music. I immediately fell in love with the
vocals - she has a slight raspiness to her voice creating a rich tone.
Anyone else heard this group?
Dirk Evans
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Michael Bonetsmueller wrote in message ...
>
>Hello world,
>
>can you recommend female singers with an interesting voice?
>
Proghisattva Dirk Evans
http://www.cabal.se/massproduktion/garmarna/
You can download a couple of mp3's, including this one:
http://www.cabal.se/massproduktion/garmarna/vanner.html
Proghisattva Dirk Evans wrote in message <7795f1$966$1...@news1.dra.com>...
Christopher Norman
>
> Hello world,
>
> can you recommend female singers with an interesting voice?
>
> My idea of an interesting female voice is not a catholic school choir
> voice like Annie Haslam's, but a female equivalent of Peter Hammill or
> the like.
>
> Don't get me wrong: I can understand people who like Annie Haslam, but
> her (and some other's) voice is too 'pure', 'sweet', 'innocent' to
> me. I don't like 'fairy whispers' as Lorena McWhatsHerName's, too. All
> in all, too saccharine(sp?).
>
> Much to often, these voices lack expression.
I know few share this opinion, but I rather enjoy Annette Peacock
on _Feels Good To Me_, peripheral though she is to the "prog
scene".
And of course, there's always the Magnificent Dagmar Krause.
CN
Progbear
Tadashi Nagasaka wrote:
>Janita Haan from Babe Ruth. Her singing style is more like strong rock
>style. They played Zappa's King Kong in their 1st album, "First Base". I
>like all 3 albums. (is there any others?) Her shout sometimes, reminds me o=
>f
>Janis, too.
They had five albums. _Stealin' Home_, minus Allen Shacklock, had two good
songs ("1000 Sunsets" and "Tomorrow, Joining Of The Day") and lots of filler.
_Kids' Stuff_, minus Haan, was pretty dismal all round.
MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
make GEORYN disappear to reply
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Progbear
motto wrote:
>Try Annette Peacock on Bill Bruford's "Feels Good to Me."
>Highly recommended, and for more than the vocals! Holdworth,
>Stewart, Berlin, Bruford.
I'm enamoured of her solo stuff as well. She usually surrounds herself
with some very talented players: Paul Bley, Airto Moreira and Barry Altschul on
_I'm the one_, Bruford and dueling guitar virtuosi Chris Spedding and Brian
Godding on _X-Dreams_ and _Been in the streets too long_, keyboardist Max
Middleton on _The Perfect Release_, etc. Her songs are not too be sneezed at,
either.
Progbear
Michael Bonetsmueller wrote:
>can you recommend female singers with an interesting voice?
>
>My idea of an interesting female voice is not a catholic school choir
>voice like Annie Haslam's, but a female equivalent of Peter Hammill or
>the like.
>
Hmm...perhaps Diamanda Galas is what you're looking for. I'd say *that's*
pretty intense! :-{)>
>Don't get me wrong: I can understand people who like Annie Haslam, but
>her (and some other's) voice is too 'pure', 'sweet', 'innocent' to
>me. I don't like 'fairy whispers' as Lorena McWhatsHerName's, too. All
>in all, too saccharine(sp?).
>
>Much to often, these voices lack expression.
>
Generally I don't like that sort of fragile female voice either, but
Sally Oldfield's voice sends chills up and down my spine. I recommend listening
to it before buying, but _Water bearer_ is definitely her defining moment.
>The female voices I like can be found outside the canonical Prog:
>
>- Janis Joplin (check the laughter after Mercedes Benz - it is hair
>raising to me),
>
Joy Fleming, the lead singer for Joy Unlimited, is rather interesting in
this regard. Her voice was rather schizophrenic, belting like Janis one moment,
singing sweetly like Dusty Springfield the next. The album _Butterflies_ is not
on CD, but the vinyl is worth tracking down, the music is from that "anything
goes" period when they just put all sorts of different musical styles in a
blender and pressed "Purée". Her solo career has been sort of sketchy,
representing Germany in Eurovision in 1975, recording an album with disco
producer Pete Bellotte (_The Final Thing_) a year later.
Annisette of the Danish band Savage Rose is quite a phenomenal vocalist, a
tiny lady with a big voice, not unlike Brenda Lee imitating Janis Joplin, but
better than that may entail. Their music was never less than classy, from the
proto-progressive psychedelia of _In The Plain_, to the folk-rock of _Your
Daily Gift_ to the haunting R&B-rock of _Wild Child_. The dual keyboards of the
Koppel brothers added to the distinctive sound (even more distinctive on their
first three albums, featuring harpsichordist Ilse Maria Koppel, ex-wife of
Thomas, who promptly started a relationship with Annisette, which continues to
this day).
Lesser known is Gundy Aspaas of the Norwegian band Ruphus. She proved that
you could integrate a rich, soul-inflected voice into progressive rock. The
hard-to-find second album _Ranshart_ is their most interesting from a prog
perspective (featuring Moog and Mellotron for days), but her most impressive
vocal showing is on their debut album, _New born Day_, particularly the
haunting track "Trapped In A Game". Later, they replaced her with a similarly
intentioned, yet less expressive singer (Sylvi Lillegaard), and the music took
a turn to a more light, jazzy sound.
>- Patty Smith (not necessarily a good singer, but very expressive!)
>
Perhaps not, but she wrote good songs, and performed them with conviction.
Not as hard-edged, but Chrissie Hynde (of the Pretenders) comes to mind as
well, and she really *can* sing!
>- Inga Rumpf that sang with the german band 'Frumpy'. She sounds like
>Janis Joplin with a sore throat...
>
In the 60's, Rumpf was in John O'Brien-Docker's Hamburg-based folk-rock
band the City Preachers, with another young ingenue named Dagmar Krause, better
known for her performances with Slapp Happy and Henry Cow. In fact, Inga and
Dagmar made an album together under the group name The I.D. Company, which I
haven't heard, but I can only imagine the results of two such eccentric
vocalists making an album together.
Back on the subject of female vocalists with husky contralto voices,
Jennifer Hensel of the German band Octopus comes to mind. At times, she almost
sounds male! But two of their three albums, at least (_The Boat Of Thoughts_
and _An Ocean Of Rocks_) are superb progressive rock, sad they're not on CD
(What's with Sky, anyway...reissue Straight Shooter but not these?)
Jerney Kaagman of the Dutch band Earth & Fire comes to mind as well. They
began as a more or less straightforward hard rock band, moved rapidly into King
Crimson (ITCOTCK) influenced Mellotron-heavy prog, then eventually wound down
their career as an Abba-influenced pop band. Worth mentioning in passing is the
German band Pancake, whose third and best album by far, _No Illusions_,
featured a fine female vocalist of the same caliber.
Not prog, but I've always been fond of Joan Armatrading. Her best albums
tend to be the ones she made with producer Glyn Johns: the self-titled third,
_Show Some Emotion_ and _To The Limit_. I am fond of her earlier stuff as well,
even the first album (_Whatever's For Us_), in which producer Gus Dudgeon seems
to be pressuring her into being the female Elton John (she's even paired with
Bernie Taupin-esque lyricist Pam Nestor). The album _The Key_ usually finds its
way into proggers' collections via its prog connections: featuring Adrian
Belew, Tony Levin and Larry Fast. Personally, I thought it was mediocre when
compared to many of her other albums, but it does contain two of her best-known
tunes ("Drop The Pilot" and "I Love It When You Call Me Names").
I also have the album _South_ by New Zealand singer-songwriter Shona
Laing. Something like a cross between Joan Armatrading (singing style) and Kate
Bush (musical style). I wouldn't call it "progressive" exactly, but I do enjoy
it a good deal.
>- Kate Bush: She proofs that a high, clear voice can indeed be
>interesting and expressive. 'The Dreaming' is IMHO a VERY progressive
>album.
>
You probably ought to discover Tori Amos, though she tends to wear her
influences a *lot* on her sleeve, *especially* on "Little Earthquakes", which
seems to be the lost Kate Bush album at times.
More orignial is Canadian eccentric Jane Siberry, who's been described as
a cross between Kate Bush and Laurie Anderson. Not entirely accurate, she's so
individualistic, it's hard to pin her down by comparing her to others. Early
stuff like _No Borders Here_ and _The Speckless Sky_ is rather heavy on the
Fairlight, so has a definite mid-80's sound to it. _The Walking_ is atmospheric
and beautiful, and probably her best, though it contains some really strange
stuff like "The Bird In The Gravel. _Bound By The Beauty_ was a misstep, a
folk-country album that wasn't bad exactly, but definitely had its share of
uninspired moments. _When I Was A Boy_ picks up where _The Walking_ left off,
and features inspired collaborations with Brian Eno and Michael Brook. _Maria_
is something else entirely: recorded with a jazz combo, her voice is at its
most expressive here. Ordinarily I wouldn't recommend it as a starter album,
but I think you would definitely enjoy it, as it's probably her best
performance vocally. The Indian instrumentation on the epic 20-minute "Oh My
My" is a nice touch.
>Two criterias for 'interesting' female voices could be:
>
>- expressive voices, voices that are capable to transport feelings.
>- 'unpure' voices, voices have a certain erotic touch.
>
>Interestingly, very interesting voices can be found in the billboard
>charts. Voices with volume, expression, everything. Unfortunately, the
>ladies prefer to sing uninspired pop.
>
Patti LaBelle comes to mind. Her choice of songs is far less than inspired
nowadays, but I remember when she was with Labelle, whose music in the early
days, particularly on the albums _Moon Shadow_ and _Pressure Cookin'_
(regrettably not on CD in complete form), was inspired and incredible: three
outstandingly talented women singing their lungs out. _Moon Shadow_ contains an
amazing take on the Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again" and a completely bizarre
version of the title song (yes, the Cat Stevens tune), alongside some fine
originals, mostly penned by the great Nona Hendryx. Their take on Gil
Scott-Heron's "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" from _Pressure Cookin'_ is
another high point. The album they did with Laura Nyro (_Gonna take a miracle_)
is excellent as well. All this proved to be terribly uncommercial, though. It
wasn't till they glammed up their image with _Nightbirds_ that people began to
take notice, but by then it was too late, rot had already begun to set in.
Nona Hendryx's solo work is worth searching out, though. Her solo debut on
Epic is a hair-raising stab at hard-rock, with lots of windmill-arm guitar. It
didn't sell at all, it seems the record-buying public weren't ready for a black
female rocker. Her later albums seem to be more influenced by Peter Gabriel,
and probably more interesting from a prog standpoint. No, I have no idea
whatever became of Sarah Dash.
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W o m e n
Roger Espel Llima
>voice like Annie Haslam's, but a female equivalent of Peter Hammill or
>the like.
You need to check out:
Dagmar Krause (e.g Art Bears, _Hopes and Fears_)
Suzanne Lewis (e.g Hail, _Kirk_)
Toyah (e.g Sunday all over the World, _Kneeling at the Shrine_)
--
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>you could integrate a rich, soul-inflected voice into progressive rock. The
>hard-to-find second album _Ranshart_ is their most interesting from a prog
>perspective (featuring Moog and Mellotron for days), but her most impressive
>vocal showing is on their debut album, _New born Day_, particularly the
>haunting track "Trapped In A Game". Later, they replaced her with a similarly
>intentioned, yet less expressive singer (Sylvi Lillegaard), and the music took
>a turn to a more light, jazzy sound.
Speaking of, I have a copy of Ruphus, _New Born Day_ up for trade, if
anyone's interested.
NP: Mike Oldfield, _The Songs of Distant Earth_
Alspachse
That band released two albums on Epic, and I love 'em both. Mary Fahl sounds a
bit like Christine McVie but with more power behind her voice. And for those
who like harmonies, Marina Belica added some really nice harmonies. I'm not
sure I'd call October Project progressive, but they were a bit hard to
catalogue or label, which is probably why Epic did a p-poor job of promoting
that band. Try their first album (self-titled) - the people I've recommended
this group toseem to prefer the first, although I will add that these same
people have been taken very much by this band.
Progbear
AllGdPple wrote:
>another great female voice,.....though not considered prog, is Rickie Lee
>Jones......who's done some progressive things if you consider prog to be in
>it's essence blues/jazz/classical fusion. what she's done to those blues
>isn't
>ordinary that's for sure. not progrock , but a great progressive musical
>mind(IMO)
Yeah, she's a pretty neat singer, has an unusual style though. I've heard
her called the female Tom Waits, but that's not really accurate, as she can
actually sing. More like an alcoholic hipster version of Joni Mitchell to my
ears. ;-{)>
MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
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Progbear
Roger Espel Llima wrote:
>> Lesser known is Gundy Aspaas of the Norwegian band Ruphus. She proved
>that
>>you could integrate a rich, soul-inflected voice into progressive rock. The
>>hard-to-find second album _Ranshart_ is their most interesting from a prog
>>perspective (featuring Moog and Mellotron for days), but her most impressive
>>vocal showing is on their debut album, _New born Day_, particularly the
>>haunting track "Trapped In A Game". Later, they replaced her with a
>similarly
>>intentioned, yet less expressive singer (Sylvi Lillegaard), and the music
>took
>>a turn to a more light, jazzy sound.
>
>Speaking of, I have a copy of Ruphus, _New Born Day_ up for trade, if
>anyone's interested.
Oh, I forgot to mention Sandrose, a French progressive rock band featuring
the soul-inflected voice of Rose Powojny (whose name I probably misspelled).
Their one album sounds a lot like _New Born Day_, but with Mellotron...lots of
it (Oh, and none of those male vocals that kind of got on my nerves on _NBD_.
_Ranshart_ has a different, better male vocalist).
MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
make GEORYN disappear to reply
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In article <19990109202406...@ngol03.aol.com>,
prog...@aol.comGEORYN (Progbear) wrote:
>
>Tadashi Nagasaka wrote:
>
>>Janita Haan from Babe Ruth. Her singing style is more like strong rock
>>style. They played Zappa's King Kong in their 1st album, "First Base". I
>>like all 3 albums. (is there any others?) Her shout sometimes, reminds me o=
>>f
>>Janis, too.
>
> They had five albums. _Stealin' Home_, minus Allen Shacklock, had two good
>songs ("1000 Sunsets" and "Tomorrow, Joining Of The Day") and lots of filler.
>_Kids' Stuff_, minus Haan, was pretty dismal all round.
>
> MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
>
>make GEORYN disappear to reply
>
> "'Thin Thighs For Your Man.' But I don't *like* men with thin thighs" --Daria
>
>N.P.:"Dawn of Evening"- D r u i d / T o w a r d T h e S u n
Thanks for the info, Mike,
But, -Shacklock and -Haan,,, well,,, would be the last on my want-list,
then,,,
Dgasque
In article <25209-36...@newsd-151.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
Since you've brought up a couple of "new wave" divas in Siouxsie and Nina, I
feel safe in bringing up Debra Iyall of Romeo Void. Their first LP, _It's a
Condition_ was fairly atypical of the West Coast new wave era of the 80's- very
moody at times yet jazzy at others. This LP was definitely one of the more
progressive LPs to come out of the scene.
spinning: Front 242- 06:21:03:11 Up Evil
============
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want, but you must eat it with naked fat people.
--Ed Bluestone
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Mike Dickson
Son-of...@webtv.net wrote...
> Danielle Dax is another to consider.
Her voice is a little shrill for my liking at times, but *everyone*
should get a chance to hear 'Jesus Egg That Wept' just once.
Mike Dickson, Black Cat Software Factory, Edinburgh, Scotland
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Mike Dickson
prog...@aol.comGEORYN wrote...
> I've heard her called the female Tom Waits
You have *no idea* how disturbing I find that.
Ritch Calvin
prog...@aol.comGEORYN (Progbear) wrote:
> Yeah, she's a pretty neat singer, has an unusual style though. I've heard
> her called the female Tom Waits, but that's not really accurate, as she can
> actually sing. More like an alcoholic hipster version of Joni Mitchell to my
> ears. ;-{)>
Well, unsurprising since they were shacked up together for years. There
are all kinds of similarities in their music and lyrics, perhaps most
obvious are the constant references to their buddy Chuck E Weiss.
And just for the record, I LOVE Tom Waits voice, and his singing.
Ritch Calvin
NP: Arvo Pärt - Passio
Ludwig Dube
>
> Oh, I forgot to mention Sandrose, a French progressive rock band featuring
> the soul-inflected voice of Rose Powojny (whose name I probably misspelled).
Yeah, but Rose's voice may not be to everyone's taste. I like it now, but didn't
managed to appreciate it over the first couple of listening...
Other nice bands featuring great female voices (that I didn't see any comments
about - maybe I missed some posts, tough)
- Kultivator (Canterburzeuhl music, featuring very pleasing soprano voicing. Hear
it, friends!)
- Cos (The signer - forgot about her name - has some beatifull high-pitched voice!)
- Hoelderlin "Traum" (their first psych-folk-prog album, featuring some heavenly
vocals)
- Earth and Fire (Not totally unlike the rich tone of Grace Slick)
np: Olivier Bloch-Laine "Des mots" (This guy also have a very appealing voice)
Ludwig Dube
Michael Bonetsmueller
Thank you all!
I didn't expect such an overwhelming response.
I make my list and carry it to the local CD stores just to hear them
say: "Well, brother, we don't have this kind of music, we have to order
it. And when you order it, you have to buy it, because we can't sell
this stuff around here. No listen before you buy, this time!"
Ah, it's a nightmare. I live in a smallish german town which is nearly
a prog desert. Here, the best stuff is find in the 5 DM ($2) bin.
Anyway, the next time I've got the opportunity to buy GOOD Cds, the
list of your recommendations will be with me.
Thanks again!
BTW: I tried to make a follow-up once, but I pushed the wrong button
and did a private reply to some innocent fellow prog-fan out
there. Whoever it is I bothered with a private mail pretty similar to
this post, please accept my apologies.
Schimm...@my-dejanews.com
Merrie Amsterburg animal logic nathalie archangel kate bush toni childs
lauren christy the green children grey eye glances kristen hall shona laing
october project maia sharp While none of these are really "hard prog" I did
leave out a # of stuff that is very folky or very celtic or very R&B or pop.
Andy {:-)
Chris Meloche
Annie Haslam Renaissance
Jane Relf original Renaissance, Illusion
Jenny Haan: Babe Ruth
Siouxie Sioux: Siouxie & the Banshees
Sonja Kristina: Curved Air
Annette Peacock: solo and w/others like Bruford
Gilli Smyth: Gong's immortal space whisperer
Francoise Hardy: check out her '96 album "Le Danger"
Nico: the doomsday songstress
Laurie Anderson: great voice plus powerful wit
Outside of prog & rock, I'd have to say my favorite singers in pop, folk,
classical etc... would be:
Dusty Springfield, Karen Carpenter, Patty Loveless, Reba McEntire, Joan
Armatrading, Dawn Upshaw, Cathy Berberian, Chrissie Hynde, Bonnie Raitt and a
few others which don't immediately come to mind.
rdmtimp
kept alsp...@aol.com (Alspachse) writing:
I second that, although I actually think the second album "Falling
Farther In" is stronger overall-maybe because it has my favorite OP
song "Deep as you Go"
Russell
tim...@gumby.futureone.com (remove "gumby." to reply)
"If you're happy all the time, you're no longer a human being,
you're a game show host."
Winona Ryder, _Heathers_
KGrant
Good coverage by all out there. I've only got two more (thank God someone
brought up Earth and Fire..)
How about Catherine Ribeiro (with Alpes) ? French vocalist VERY dark and
moody ala Nico with an Ange-esque sound..
Also, Anne Dierks of the German group Eden. Clear crystal voice similar to
Annie Halsam. Great vocal/choral progressive..
Michael Bonetsmueller <bon...@hrzpub.tu-darmstadt.de> wrote in article
<m3yanbj...@fenice.olimpo>...
AllGdPple
>> I've heard her called the female Tom Waits
>
>You have *no idea* how disturbing I find that.
i believe it refers more to her deft use of the language than their vocal
styles.
kenny
Schimm...@my-dejanews.com
Schimm...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> In article <3698D56A...@Enter-Net.com>,
> Ludwig Dube <ludwig....@Enter-Net.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh, I forgot to mention Sandrose, a French progressive rock band featuring
> > > the soul-inflected voice of Rose Powojny (whose name I probably misspelled).
> >
> > Yeah, but Rose's voice may not be to everyone's taste. I like it now, but didn't
> > managed to appreciate it over the first couple of listening...
> >
> > Other nice bands featuring great female voices (that I didn't see any comments
> > about - maybe I missed some posts, tough)
> >
> > - Kultivator (Canterburzeuhl music, featuring very pleasing soprano voicing. Hear
> > it, friends!)
> > - Cos (The signer - forgot about her name - has some beatifull high-pitched voice!)
> >
> > - Hoelderlin "Traum" (their first psych-folk-prog album, featuring some heavenly
> > vocals)
> > - Earth and Fire (Not totally unlike the rich tone of Grace Slick)
> >
> > np: Olivier Bloch-Laine "Des mots" (This guy also have a very appealing voice)
> > Ludwig Dube
> >
> > While some of these may be considered more prog folk or alternative thought I would throw in the following list of females I enjoy musically:
>
> lauren christy, the green children, grey eye glances, kristen hall, shona laing,
> october project, maia sharp, While none of these are really "hard prog" I did
> leave out a # of stuff that is very folky or very celtic or very R&B or pop.
> Andy {:-)
>
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Progbear
Dgasque wrote:
>Since you've brought up a couple of "new wave" divas in Siouxsie and Nina, I
>feel safe in bringing up Debra Iyall of Romeo Void. Their first LP, _It's a
>Condition_ was fairly atypical of the West Coast new wave era of the 80's-
>very
>moody at times yet jazzy at others. This LP was definitely one of the more
>progressive LPs to come out of the scene.
They got a lot of airplay round these parts, because they were from S.F.
Iyall struck me as a sort of new-wave Mae West. ;-{)>
And if we're gonna talk about Nina Hagen, we ought to also mention her
American counterpart, Lene Lovich, whose first two albums were landmarks in
"new-wave" rock. _No Man's Land_ was, for the most part, a disappointment, but
her take on the Meteors' "It's You, Only You (Mein Schmerz)" is one of her best
songs (and a prog connection, two Meteors were ex-members of Alquin).
And so long as we're talking about eccentric female vocalists, I might as
well mention the godmother of them all, Peruvian vocalist Yma Sumac, even
though she isn't rock (though she did make an excellent, but impossible to
find, rock album called _Miracles_, which has something of a proggy feel to
it). And since this is RMP, I would be remiss if I did not mention Mauricia
Platon (of Zao) and Pascale Son (of Cos), who basically appropriated Sumac's
vocal style to prog. And did a damned fine job of it, I might add (I highly
recommend Zao's _Z=7L_ and Cos' _Postaeolian Train Robbery_).
MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
make GEORYN disappear to reply
"It is not an obscenity to be free. It is a divine right." --Annette Peacock
N.P.:"To-Ta In The Moya"- Y e z d a U r f a / S a c r e d B a b o o n
minnauska
SkyHarmony wrote in message
<19990109090939...@ng-ch1.aol.com>...
>>So: Where can I find exciting female prog singers?
>
I will have to recommend the early Catherine Ribeiro + Alpes. This group
played French folk progressive music and Ribeiro's voice is strong and
powerful, and soars, at times, angelically.
Henry Potts
>can you recommend female singers with an interesting voice?
>
>voice like Annie Haslam's, but a female equivalent of Peter Hammill or
>the like.
>The female voices I like can be found outside the canonical Prog:
>
>- Janis Joplin (check the laughter after Mercedes Benz - it is hair
>raising to me),
>
>
>Janis Joplin with a sore throat...
>
>interesting and expressive. 'The Dreaming' is IMHO a VERY progressive
>album.
>
>
>- expressive voices, voices that are capable to transport feelings.
>- 'unpure' voices, voices have a certain erotic touch.
>
>Interestingly, very interesting voices can be found in the billboard
>charts. Voices with volume, expression, everything. Unfortunately, the
>ladies prefer to sing uninspired pop.
>
This must be one of the easiest questions on the newsgroup to answer in
quite a while. There is one voice that you clearly need to hear right
away: Dagmar Krause.
I'd suggest starting with the Art Bears (Krause + Fred Frith and Chris
Cutler in a post-Henry Cow band) or Slapp Happy (Krause with Peter
Blegvad and Anthony Moore).
--
Henry
Greg Ioannou
>Janita Haan from Babe Ruth. Her singing style is more like strong rock
>style. They played Zappa's King Kong in their 1st album, "First Base". I
>like all 3 albums. (is there any others?) Her shout sometimes, reminds me o=
>f
>Janis, too.
I have four:
Amar Caballero (1974)
Babe Ruth (1975)
Stealin' Home (1975)
Kid's Stuff (1976)
Those four plus First Base means that there are at least five. (I'm surprised
to see I don't have a copy of First Base. Must never have bought it, assuming
I already had it.)
Ellie Hope replaced Jenny Hahn (not very successfully) on Kid's stuff.
Greg Ioannou
gr...@e-mend.com
li'l crazy dog jr.
Amon Duul II and Popol Vuh.
spacefreak
"First base " is their better. Get it a.s.a.p.
spacefreak
Greg Ioannou wrote in message <77bnnt$ca1$2...@news.interlog.com>...
trout_hound
Joanne Hogg of Iona
consistently wins society awards as the best female prog singer....
and deserves it. Iona are awesome.
minnauska wrote in message <77c6ad$b1f$1...@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
>
>SkyHarmony wrote in message
><19990109090939...@ng-ch1.aol.com>...
>>>So: Where can I find exciting female prog singers?
>>
>
Dirk van den Hout
Well, first of all there's Paula Cole, back ground vocals during Peter Gabriels
Secret World and she made two fabulous albums "Harbinger" and "this Fire" Great !!
The other singer that should be mentioned is Judie Tzuke; that girl makes/made (I
don't know if she is still active in the music business ...) pure progressive rock
!! I know she made a few albums but I have only her greatest hits album ..
Try them both; it won't disappoint you !
Dirk
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StoOdin101
>>voice like Annie Haslam's, but a female equivalent of Peter Hammill or
>>the like.
That's spelled "A M Y D E N I O". And she can be heard to best effect on the
excellent Curlew disc "A Beautiful Western Saddle".
"It is said that Music is a universal language, crossing the barriers of
culture, age, and language. Perhaps, eventually, we will learn that it also
spans those of time... and space." --- THE OUTER LIMITS; "Music of the Spheres"
DTohir
>>>voice like Annie Haslam's, but a female equivalent of Peter Hammill or
>>>the like.
>
>That's spelled "A M Y D E N I O". And she can be heard to best effect on the
>excellent Curlew disc "A Beautiful Western Saddle".
>
n.mu...@bathspa.ac.uk
>
> The other singer that should be mentioned is Judie Tzuke; that girl makes/made
(I
> don't know if she is still active in the music business ...) pure progressive
rock
> !!
>
> Dirk
> --
She certainly is, ! Her latest album is available only through the Internet.
Bob Harris has played several trackes on his BBC Radio 2 show and it sounds
even better than the previous albums to me. She has joined the growing
number of artists who have enough of being messed around and generally abused
by record companies. You should be able to find her website easily enough.
I think her own label is called something like Moonstone or something very
similar. - Neil.
ASmileInTheDark
sheila has got to have the deepest throat around.
another one's OM KALSSOM of egypt. listening to her
voice will turn you into a cobra down calcutta way.
N.P. The Lennon Sisters "sad movies'
Michael Bonetsmueller wrote in message ...
>
>Hello world,
>
>can you recommend female singers with an interesting voice?
>
>My idea of an interesting female voice is not a catholic school choir
>voice like Annie Haslam's, but a female equivalent of Peter Hammill or
>the like.
>
>Don't get me wrong: I can understand people who like Annie Haslam, but
>her (and some other's) voice is too 'pure', 'sweet', 'innocent' to
>me. I don't like 'fairy whispers' as Lorena McWhatsHerName's, too. All
>in all, too saccharine(sp?).
>
>Much to often, these voices lack expression.
>
>The female voices I like can be found outside the canonical Prog:
>
>- Janis Joplin (check the laughter after Mercedes Benz - it is hair
>raising to me),
>
>- Patty Smith (not necessarily a good singer, but very expressive!)
>
>- Inga Rumpf that sang with the german band 'Frumpy'. She sounds like
>Janis Joplin with a sore throat...
>
>- Kate Bush: She proofs that a high, clear voice can indeed be
>interesting and expressive. 'The Dreaming' is IMHO a VERY progressive
>album.
>
>Two criterias for 'interesting' female voices could be:
>
>- expressive voices, voices that are capable to transport feelings.
>- 'unpure' voices, voices have a certain erotic touch.
>
>Interestingly, very interesting voices can be found in the billboard
>charts. Voices with volume, expression, everything. Unfortunately, the
>ladies prefer to sing uninspired pop.
>
>So: Where can I find exciting female prog singers?
>
>I am looking forward to your suggestions!
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Michael.
n.mu...@bathspa.ac.uk
> >
> >SkyHarmony wrote in message
> ><19990109090939...@ng-ch1.aol.com>...
> >>>So: Where can I find exciting female prog singers?
(I thought I had sent this yesterday but it seems to have vanished..
apologies if you get it twice !) I just wanted to mention the female
vocalist with the German band Carol of Harvest who made their only album
(same title) in the late Seventies. IIRC her name was Beate Krause or
something very similar. Well worth investigating if you are into a prog-folk
groove. Lovely long tracks and everything, vocally and instrumentally, hits
the right spot. Anyone know of a CD release ? (I only know of an LP reissue
a few years back done by the band themselves). - Neil
Dgasque
In article <369A83B9...@gironet.nl>, Dirk van den Hout
<dirkv...@gironet.nl> writes:
>The other singer that should be mentioned is Judie Tzuke; that girl
>makes/made (I
>don't know if she is still active in the music business ...) pure progressive
>rock
>!! I know she made a few albums but I have only her greatest hits album ..
>
Coulda sworn I read that Judie passed away on this very NG a couple of years
back, or am I mixing her up with another singer?
===============
Sayings that should be on buttons:
1.. Well, this day was a total waste of makeup.
===============
=dgasque=
n.mu...@bathspa.ac.uk
dga...@aol.com (Dgasque) wrote:
>
> In article <369A83B9...@gironet.nl>, Dirk van den Hout
> <dirkv...@gironet.nl> writes:
>
> >The other singer that should be mentioned is Judie Tzuke; that girl
> >makes/made (I
> >don't know if she is still active in the music business ...) pure progressive
> >rock
> >!! I know she made a few albums but I have only her greatest hits album ..
> >
>
> Coulda sworn I read that Judie passed away on this very NG a couple of years
> back, or am I mixing her up with another singer?
She is very much still with us !! I wonder if you are thinking perhaps of
Judie Sill ? - Neil.
Greg Ioannou
>> >The other singer that should be mentioned is Judie Tzuke; that girl
>> >makes/made (I
>> >don't know if she is still active in the music business ...) pure
> progressive
>> >rock
>> >!! I know she made a few albums but I have only her greatest hits album ..
There's a very well done Judy Tzuke Web page at:
http://www.bigmoon.demon.co.uk/tzuke/
Greg Ioannou
gr...@e-mend.com
Ritch Calvin
stood...@aol.com (StoOdin101) wrote:
> >My idea of an interesting female voice is not a catholic school choir
> >>voice like Annie Haslam's, but a female equivalent of Peter Hammill or
> >>the like.
>
> That's spelled "A M Y D E N I O". And she can be heard to best effect on the
> excellent Curlew disc "A Beautiful Western Saddle".
Yeah, I like Amy Denio a lot. She's all over the two Pale Nudes discs, and
she has a least one solo CD out on Knitting Factory Works, I think. It's
called Birthing Chair Blues.
NP: Milla - The Divine Invasion
Schimm...@my-dejanews.com
n.mu...@bathspa.ac.uk wrote:
>
>
> >
> > The other singer that should be mentioned is Judie Tzuke; that girl makes/made
> (I
> > don't know if she is still active in the music business ...) pure progressive
> rock
> > !!
> >
> > --
>
> She certainly is, ! Her latest album is available only through the Internet.
> Bob Harris has played several trackes on his BBC Radio 2 show and it sounds
> even better than the previous albums to me. She has joined the growing
> number of artists who have enough of being messed around and generally abused
> by record companies. You should be able to find her website easily enough.
> I think her own label is called something like Moonstone or something very
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
rock/pop to me but still enjoyable music. I do know that she does have her
own website with samples as I did check out some things after reading about
her music but I am not sure of its exact address. Andy {:-)
Dgasque
In article <77fn76$toj$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, n.mu...@bathspa.ac.uk writes:
I stated-
>> Coulda sworn I read that Judie (Tzuke) passed away on this very NG a couple
of
>years
>> back, or am I mixing her up with another singer?
>
>She is very much still with us !! I wonder if you are thinking perhaps of
>Judie Sill ? - Neil.
>
Nah- never heard of that Judie. Well, glad to know I was wrong...
=dgasque=
A Cimino
>Yeah, I like Amy Denio a lot. She's all over the two Pale Nudes discs, and
>she has a least one solo CD out on Knitting Factory Works, I think. It's
>called Birthing Chair Blues.
One of my faves as well - saw her once with Curlew several years back.
Don't forget the excellent Tone Dogs, which she sang for on a couple
of albums.
She was profiled the other night on NPR's All Things Considered -
quite an unexpected treat amongst all the impeachment talk.
Currie Christopher J
> The female voices I like can be found outside the canonical Prog:
> - Janis Joplin (check the laughter after Mercedes Benz - it is hair
> raising to me),
> - Patty Smith (not necessarily a good singer, but very expressive!)
> - Inga Rumpf that sang with the german band 'Frumpy'. She sounds like
> Janis Joplin with a sore throat...
> - Kate Bush: She proofs that a high, clear voice can indeed be
> interesting and expressive. 'The Dreaming' is IMHO a VERY progressive
> album.
> Two criterias for 'interesting' female voices could be:
> - expressive voices, voices that are capable to transport feelings.
> - 'unpure' voices, voices have a certain erotic touch.
I'm not sure if this entirely fulfills either category, but ... as many
other individuals on this newsgroup aren't terribly fond of Toyah Willcox,
I should probably be the one to suggest her.
I'm certain that this poster would appreciate Terre Roche, btw.
The Christopher Currie
Pedro Sena
>
While not "interesting", or as a clear cut singer like we hear in much pop
music, Renate in AD2 is certainly one of the most unusual of all these
singers and working with material that is much harder to express and sing.
She mixes a bitchy low voice with a higher one that comes off as "needy" to
add a touch that is remarkable, though we may listen to it and not like it
for its "lack of musicality". But when it comes to "living" through the
music and bringing it across, she can express a surrealistic and expressive
lyric that most can not do at all.
Pedro Sena
>A female voice in prog music that bugs the fuck out of me is the girl/lady
>in Gong, particularly on _Camembert Electrique_.
Gilli, I think. Which is also another person that deserves mention here, and
I often think that her stuff on MOTHER GONG, is actually better (get the
Live one) and much more expressive. But with Gilli, I always get the feeling
that we are listening to a poet, rather than a singer. One sings the other
feels.
Pedro Sena
>
>NP: Mike Oldfield, _The Songs of Distant Earth_
NP: (Very loud) Mike Oldfield, Amarok
Pedro Sena
>Toyah (e.g Sunday all over the World, _Kneeling at the Shrine_)
Wasn't she (isn't she?) Mrs. Fripp?
Pedro Sena
the most distinctive of the ones we have mentioned here. Of all her work, I
like a lot the Fairport convention album "Liege and Leif" and then the last
thing that she did, specially the song "One More Chance" .... she didn't get
another one.!!! Sad too, because her voice was truly beautiful.
Pedro Sena
>
> I'm enamoured of her solo stuff as well. She usually surrounds herself
>with some very talented players: Paul Bley, Airto Moreira and Barry
Altschul on
>_I'm the one_, Bruford and dueling guitar virtuosi Chris Spedding and Brian
>Godding on _X-Dreams_ and _Been in the streets too long_, keyboardist Max
>Middleton on _The Perfect Release_, etc. Her songs are not too be sneezed
at,
>either.
Brazil had a lot of strong voiced singers. I remember Maria Betania as one,
and she was political as heck if I remember it right. Flora Purim (Mrs.
Airto Moreira) was more of a female Damo than an actual singer, though she
could easily handle a song.
SkyHarmony
><19990109090939...@ng-ch1.aol.com>...
>>>So: Where can I find exciting female prog singers?
>>
Um... I didn't ask the question, though I was among the first to answer it.
>>I can't believe no one has mentioned Renate Knaup for her work with
>>Amon Duul II and Popol Vuh.
Um... I mentioned her. I wonder if AOL screwed up my post......
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though not particularly proggy)
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Roger Espel Llima
Yep, she is. I *think* the story goes that he proposed to her after
hearing her sing while recording that album!
NP: Yungchen Lamo, _Tibet, Tibet_ (on RealWorld)
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