rec.music.progressive Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ), Part 1/8
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Welcome to rec.music.progressive
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rec.music.progressive passed its CFV on 2nd May 1995. It is the
successor of alt.music.progressive and supersedes it. Being a rec.*
group, it has much wider distribution than a.m.p had and is aimed
at generating and disseminating discussion of progressive and
non-mainstream music with a wider audience than was previously the
case. The FAQs have been registered with news.answers and thus are
"official" in the only real sense of the word applicable to FAQs.
This FAQ is an introduction intended to give some idea of the scope
of discussions that the group supports. It attempts to present
a relatively uncontroversial and illuminating picture of what is
meant by the term "progressive music" as commonly understood in
the group. Ideally, you should read this in conjunction with FAQ 4.
It is recommended that people new to non-mainstream music read
this FAQ along with FAQ 4 before posting the perennial question
"What is progressive music?" ...
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What is Progressive Music?
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"Progressive rock was what happened in the early 70's when certain
brilliant instrumentalists got fed up with playing three-and-a-half
minute long songs about teenage love. Unfortunately, this led them
to start playing ten-and-a-half minute long songs about nothing in
particular."
-- Geoff Nicholson, `Big Noises: Rock Guitar in the 1990s', Quadrant
Books, 1991.
Humour aside, there are probably as many answers as there
are people reading this, and all answers contain some insight
into the question and concepts involved. The word "progressive"
has been defined to mean "forward moving", "widening in scope",
"changing in increments" and so on. However, in order to understand
what is meant by "progressive music", one must look beyond the
dictionary to the usage it has in circles where the term is common
currency. Hereafter, we shall forgo the scare-quotes and fearlessly
use the term "progressive" with wanton abandon as this should help
reduce any reservations that people feel about the more irrelevant
connotations. You will often see the term "progressive rock"
used as a term intended to cover the same field as "progressive
music". "progressive rock" is a common phrase that is generally not
meant to restrict the concept to rock-related examples. Indeed,
you sometime see, for example, people refer to ambient Eno as
"progressive rock". Please remember this is now a mnemonic term
that no longer has strictly compositional meaning. It refers to
progressive music in the same way that "juice" is sometimes used
to refer to any soft drink (at least where I currently live in
Edinburgh, Scotland).
For terms of discussion on rec.music.progressive(r.m.p), most
progressive music is based to some degree on: 70's Art Rock,
Canterbury, Psychedelic, Fusion, Krautrock, Classical Rock, Folk,
Space Rock, RIO, and Zeuhl Music (for a definition of these terms,
see FAQ 4) and/or many other forms of music that mainstream music is,
in many cases, completely oblivious of. Recently, in the last 10-15
years, the mainstream media has used the word progressive to describe
college music, alternative pop, and other forms of music. While this
is a common use of the word, it is not the use we are referring to
on this newsgroup. If you are reading this for the first time and
you feel progressive music focuses on bands such as The Smiths,
The Cure, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Nirvana, and/or one of the many
bands showcased on MTV's "120 Minutes" or "Alternative Nation",
you will probably prefer to read alt.music.alternative.
Naturally, one of the first desires of someone approaching this area
is to find some characteristic that defines a given piece of music
as progressive. Unfortunately, as is the case with most concepts,
there is certainly no one feature that all music deemed progressive
share. However, this detracts nothing from the comfortable use
of the word on r.m.p. Why might this be? There are two reasons
I think. Firstly, the word is best defined in its use by people
versed in uttering it. This is the case with many words and the
time-worn Wittgenstein comments regarding the impossibility of
providing a definition that specifies all and only all of things
that answer to the concept "game" are germane here. All games
share no single feature that does not allow non games under the
concept as well. So it is with "progressive". Not all progressive
music shares a common characteristic but one can trace commonalties
between arbitrary instances of the term, thus creating a huge web
of interconnected instances. For example, it is hard to find direct
commonalties between Brian Eno and Dr Nerve but one might easily
trace common threads by way of intermediate examples. In this
way we can account for the coherency of a taste that includes
both. Occasionally, you will see debates on r.m.p about what
"progressive" means which is healthy and expected. However, as you
will quickly realise, that there is a surprisingly unified sense of
what "belongs" on r.m.p - one which transcends attempts to provide
an impossibly brief nutshell definition. Having said that, you can
obtain an idea of what people mean by the term "progressive" if you
entertain descriptions like "complex", "intricate", "innovative",
"challenging" and so forth. Obviously none of these, even if taken
in combination, are necessary or sufficient to categorically define
the term. Glibly, we may say that progressive music is what sounds
like other progressive music. This is not a vicious circle as
there as accepted exemplars, for example early Genesis, Yes and
King Crimson that we may use as the basis for analogy. One must be
very careful not to use such accepted canons as the only exemplars
otherwise you are ignoring the central feature of such a term as
"progressive": that is has no central defining terms. In the end,
it is up to the listener to draw boundaries where they see fit, if
they see fit at all; it is merely useful to know where others have
come to draw boundaries so as to avoid confusion and unnecessary
problems. One happy attitude that you will find on r.m.pis that there
is a general consensus that it is the music that is important, and
not what you decide to label it so feel free to test the waters and
ask if you are considering discussing something you are suspicious
may be more relevantly discussed elsewhere. People who spend a lot
of time attempting to label certain instances of music are probably
more interested in taxonomy than music.
As mentioned above, the reason there is so much disagreement about
what music is progressive and how progressive it really is, is that
the term is used to describe many ostensibly different styles of
music. Many innovative and unclassifiable musics are included under
the progressive umbrella, which leads to a lot of confusion. So,
regardless of how you feel about labelling and the boundaries of the
term, when you read r.m.p., keep in mind that many people reading the
group many be coming from a completely different musical background,
and may be listening for different reasons. The term is absolutely
not limited to early Yes and Genesis. People who think this tend to
be very surprised when they first hear Henry Cow, Magma or Univers
Zero. Popular media is generally guilty for this common attitude
as this is mostly what they talk about when they undertake one of
those pointless, inaccurate and laughably insulting "Progressive
Rock Retrospective" articles. Progressive music is that which is
discussed on r.m.p. If you can appreciate this without thinking that
I am making any claims of eminence for r.m.p, then you understand
the state of play I think.
You need a CD player. Most re-issues of lost music and most new
releases are produced for CD only. Personally, I have spent a
small fortune since discovering r.m.p and the area in general and
I consider it some of the best investments I have ever made. Do
not be intimidated by people with huge collections, encyclopaedic
knowledge as r.m.p is a friendly place where the overriding concern
is to promote the enjoyment of some of the finest music ever made
that you would simply never otherwise hear about. I am continually
amazed at the degree of interconnection between the artists, bands
and music in what is an hugely eclectic field. I find this very
satisfying as it corroborates the intuition that there is something
unifying about the field as a whole. You will find shared members,
houses, instruments etc. amongst bands you came to from radically
different directions but which are all deemed progressive.
One thing that people find suprising when their musical horizons
are broadened is that there are different ways of listening to music
depending on its characteristics. The commonly accepted sub-genres
listed in FAQ 4 often concentrate on different aspects of music. For
example, much RIO has a penchant for rhythm and requires a different
attitude in the listener to textural ambient music which may be
focusing completely on sonority to the exclusion of rhythm. The mark
of an experienced listener is being able to switch between these
different focuses quickly and not to criticise music for paying no
attention to something it is not even attempting to address. No one
form of music can address all interesting aspects of music. This
leads me to suggest that the mature and reasoned listener who is
truly interested in music will have tastes more diverse than many
people would be able to imagine. Progressive music, I have found,
addresses a particularly wide spectrum of interesting attributes.
One more thing. There is a pernicious tendency for some people to
regard progressive music as the jewel in the crown of the music. This
is simply nonsense from people with narrow musical experience. Many
experienced progressive music enthusiasts have very wise tastes
indeed and you will catch a glimpse of these from time to time. I
have done so and they have lead to very fruitful and rewarding music
explorations in many different directions. Progressive music is a
small corner of music as a whole. I encourage everyone to explore
as widely as possible. Having said this, I and presumably you as
you are reading this, suspect progressive music is a particularly
interesting corner to explore.
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What is rec.music.progressive For?
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Discussion on r.m.p usually focuses on the lesser known progressive
bands. While Yes, Genesis, ELP, King Crimson, and the like will
always have a home on r.m.p, they also have their own mailing lists
(see FAQ 5). While almost everyone reading r.m.p is an enthusiast
of one or more of these groups, many are not terribly interested
in what kind of beer Mike Rutherford drinks, Steve Howe's favorite
vegetable, or the number of hairs on Robert Fripp's head. The
purpose of this newsgroup is to explore a wide variety of progressive
music, rather than trying to learn the most trivial facts about a
few examples. Also, the most knowledgeable people on each specific
example will almost certainly read the respective mailing lists, but
may not read r.m.p. So, while discussion of a new Yes release is a
fair topic for r.m.p (preferably, alt.music.yes), detailed analyses
of Yes lyrics might well be better off on the Yes mailing list.
As with most other newsgroups, r.m.p is better without flame wars. If
you have been on the net for more than a month, you have probably
seen several already. The best thing to do to people who flame is
to ignore them. You do not need to post a message telling everyone
what an idiot the flamer is, because that person has already let us
know that they are an idiot. The best way to avoid flames is to use
tact and be respectful. Probably nobody in the world is going to
agree with your musical opinions completely, so instead of being
inflammatory, you can carefully write a explanation of why you
find the new Genesis release substandard. The general rule of thumb
is: if you have to think twice about whether your post will upset
anyone, it is probably better not to post. Instead, find a more
tactful and respectful wording of what you want to say. However,
a caveat. Given that r.m.p is generally populated with a type who is
often more concerned about music than most, one can expect and even
see the point of occasional remarks that are more signs of heated
concern and stress relief. I think this is a good thing given the
lack of forums to discuss anything other than popular releases on
the media. Yes, r.m.p has a therapeutic role. I jest not.
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rec.music.progressive Congratulates Itself
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It may be interesting to read what an unbiased and randomly selected
set of r.m.p readers have said about it:
"Not since the '70's when I was actually able to listen to a real
progressive radio station have I been able to pick up such excellent
music. I'm able to glean from opinions expressed here on r.m.p. as
to what artists/albums I would like (as opposed to the old days
where you could listen on the radio). Let me tell you, we've got
a pretty good batting average going! Last weekend I scored two
Camel CDs, Cairo, IQ, Nektar, Eloy and Soft Machine- all at local
Best Buys or Tower. They were all hits and no misses- great music!
Can't wait to find more. Thanks to all on r.m.p!"
*Tony Anello* (anello AT wwa.com)
"I, too, can credit r.m.p. with providing me with a long list
of bands that I'd never heard of before. Of course, the things
that have attracted me are recent releases on independent labels,
most of which I haven't been able to find anywhere locally (though
there have been some enjoyable exceptions including Iluvatar's
first release used). Anyway, thanks for helping me find about 90%
of the music I'm currently listening to, and a long list of things
that I'm going to order one of these days. Maybe one day my budget
will allow me to catch up! :)"
*Paul Konstant* (Paul_H_Konstant AT sbphrd.com)
"I also would never have heard of or heard most of the stuff I listen
to nowadays if it wasn't for this group or the GEPR; I picked up
on Henry Cow, Magma, Only A Mother, Gorky's Zygotic Mynci, and the
entire Cuneiform catalog from this group. A hearty thanks."
*David Lynch* (dflync01 AT starbase.spd.louisville.edu)
"I'm in the same boat. I'd have never heard about Progday '96. That
in itself has been worth all the online charges ten times over.
Also found out about IQ, Jadis, Pallas, Arena, Enchant, MM Music,
Mastermind, Iluvatar, Discipline, on and on and on.... Even made the
trip up to Montreal (three times!!) to see The Musical Box. Thank
you all for letting me vent my musical opinions and learn about
the best music in all the world."
*Dave Dery* (Skilbo AT gnn.com)
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Where To Go From Here
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If this is the first time you have seen this file, you are probably
just scratching the surface. For more information on progressive
music, including mail order outlets, publications, stores that sell
much of what you will find discussed, progressive music sources on
the net, or general information on progressive music, please read
the rest of the FAQs.
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This FAQ is maintained by Phil Kime(Philip AT kime.org.uk). Comments,
questions, and criticisms are positively always welcome. This text
was taken in part from the previous versions of this FAQ, which
were maintained by Scott McMahan, and Mike Borella. The FAQs were
brought into being originally through the sterling efforts of Malcolm
Humes. Many thanks go to all of these gentlemen for their excellent
work.--------------------
Phil Kime
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Geoff Burton (Geoff.Burton AT mbmmllab.demon.co.uk)
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A List Of Mailorder Sources Of Progressive Music
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"Independent distribution is virtually dead. ...Most American stores
get nearly all their wares from six suppliers." (CBS, Warner, BMG,
Capitol-EMI, Polygram, and MCA.)
-from "Hit Men" by Frederic Dannen, Vintage Books 1991 (ISBN
0-679-73061-3)
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Introduction
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Despite the major labels dominating the music industry and
distribution, artists are still releasing their own product and some
small labels are dedicated to releasing new music and reissuing old
releases once considered rare, out of print and lost forever. Small
distributors are still around filling a need, helping us find those
releases that nobody else seems to carry. Even in large metropolitan
areas in this age it can be difficult to find a retail music outlet
that stocks even a small selection of progressive music. The same
is essentially true of mail order vendors. It is too difficult
and expensive for a small business to maintain a large inventory
on hand. Both retail and mail order vendors tend to have special
areas of interest, typically heavily influenced by the interests
of the employee(s) ordering the stock. With many small one-person
businesses in music mail order, the focus of musical interest
is often somewhat narrow and consequently it is hard to find any
one mail order source for everything if your musical tastes are
diverse. This listing of sources attempts to address this problem by
listing comments from customers of the various vendors to help obtain
a better idea of what they stock and what service can be expected.
If you are serious about tracking down hard to find music you will
end up having to turn to a variety of resources to find what you
want. This list is oriented to that perspective, with no intent to
imply that any one vendor is better than another.
Many of the vendors are small operations running out of people's
homes or on a modest budget. Please be considerate when calling
numbers with preferred calling hours listed as the owner might not
enjoy answering your calls during meals or while abed. It is probably
a good idea to send a SASE (Self-Addressed- Stamped-Envelope) or an
IRC (International Reply Coupon from the Post Office) if writing
overseas. It may not be necessary but I consider it a gesture of
goodwill and it can make the difference in whether you get a reply
or not. Catalog costs listed here may be inaccurate, or a catalog
may have a fee associated that is not noted here. No guarantee
is made for the accuracy of addresses, pricing or opinions listed
herein. Please help keep this up to date by informing of any changes
or corrections.
Please note that comments below are not attributable and are
certainly not the product of the FAQ maintainer in the main. They
have been collated from the comments of many, many people and largely
inserted verbatim. The FAQ maintainer accepts no responsibility for
either mode of expression or content in any entry. It is appropriate
to warn others if you have been seriously or repeatedly mistreated
by anyone listed here and to that end, there has been no attempt
to disguise fairly expressed negative comments.
As of early May, 1994, all author names have been removed from
their respective contributions. This was done mainly because it was
requested and since this file appears in the Gibraltar Encyclopedia
of Progressive Rock, negative comments may be construed as libel
(though they are meant to be constructive criticism).
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Availability Of Other Mail Order Listings
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There have been a few other music (CD/LP) mailorder lists compiled
on the net - one that used to be posted to rec.music.misc regularly
has been dormant (not maintained or updated) since May 1992 but
can be found at
<URL:ftp://ftp.uwp.edu:/pub/music/misc/mailorder.rmm>
The current version has been unchanged since May 1992 and contains
some out of date addresses but is still a huge list of resources. The
updated version the file can be obtained as
<URL:ftp://ftp.uwp.edu:/pub/music/misc/mail.order.big>
The revision borrows liberally from this listing but managed to
keep some outdated addresses - in cases of conflicting addresses the
one found in the list you are currently reading is probably correct.
Yet another mailorder list called INFOCD is maintained by MIKEY AT
perch.nosc.mil. This can be found at
<URL:ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/pub/music/misc/mailorder.infocd>
There are some additional lists in that directory of possible
interest, for example the file
<URL:ftp://ftp.uwp.edu:/pub/music/misc/mailorder.bootlegs>
which is a list of sources in the USA of, um, hard to find rarities.
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Vendor Listing
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Vendors in the USA
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::Name::
ABCD
::Address::
17 Wall Street, Norwalk, CT 06851
::Phone::
203-831-8301
::Fax::
203-831-8238
::Comments::
Request a catalog if nothing else. They've got a great selection
of European and Japanese imports, some domestic stuff too. One of
the priciest places I've dealt with, especially for shipping! But a
good selection nonetheless. Import CDs only. Full length CDs only,
no CD singles. They keep everything in stock, so there is a very
quick turnaround for your orders. They're a little stingy about
sending catalogs, though, so be persistent.
I have found them to be very helpful. Turnaround time is fast. They
didn't seem stingy with the catalog when I requested one, although
they did mention that an update was forthcoming, and I might want
to wait. I can't comment about the prices as the CD I was looking
for is known to be expensive (in the $30 range!)
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::Name::
Aeon Music
::Address::
P.O. Box 421544, Los Angeles, CA 90042
::Fax::
(213) 343-1925
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.mediaonline.com/bizads/aeon.html>
::Comments::
Run by Francisco Morales. The catalog is extensive, mostly of
used LPs and new CDs, a mixture of set sale and auction items
(mostly set sale). A lot of rarities and obscurities.
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::Name::
Ambient Music
::Address::
18633 Topham St., Reseda, CA 91335
::Comments::
Not sure if they're still in business. They used to carry a decent
selection of electronic/new age stuff.
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::Name::
Art Control Enterprises
::Address::
10301 Lake Ave. #825, Cleveland, OH 44102
::Comments::
Run by Steven F. Del Nero. A set sale and auction list of used but
near mint CDs and LPs. Steven mails out this catalog about once
a year or so of used items. The first part is an auction and the
second part is remaining items from previous auctions. His list is
fairly large and diverse, including obscure progressive, improv
and industrial music but pricing is close to what I can find the
items for new if I can find them (but I do live in an area with
good music stores). Quality of most items is supposed to be near
mint. Worth checking out.
A recent flyer from ART CONTROL said it's turning into a full-time
business and will be expanding to stock more new items in the
future. Probably with more frequent catalogs
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::Store::
Arula Records
::Address::
PO Box 332, Southbridge, MA 01550
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.ultranet.com/~ares/arula>
::Comments::
Just released first mail order catalogue of independent progressive
music releases, including fusion, space rock, art rock and
progressive rock. The catalogue, along with sound samples,
is on line (see above for URL).
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::Name::
Audiophile Imports
::Address::
P.O. BOX 4801, Lutherville, MD 21094-4801
::Phone::
(410) 628-7601
::Fax::
(410) 628-1948
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.cyboard.com/audiophile.html>
::Comments::
Lots of fusion from around the world. Good prog selection,
however not as extensive as another Baltimore location, which is
Of Sound Mind. Catalog has a nice thumbnail blurb on each of the
CD's offered (some are just personel listings, but it's better
than nothing!)
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::Name::
Backroads
::Address::
418 Tamal Plaza, Corte Madera, CA 94925
::Phone::
(800) 767-4748
::Fax::
(415) 924-0648
::Comments::
Extensive catalog of mostly new age/emusic. A bit pricey and they
don't stock vinyl. They also have available radio station lists
for Echoes, Hearts of Space Radio and Musical Starstreams. They
come out with regular updates/new release notes. They can take
special requests and have access to some imports from Europe.
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::Name::
Jeff Baker
::Address::
R.D.2, Box 294, Camden, DE 19934
::Comments::
His catalog of "progressive, psychedelic, electronic, folk-rock
to hard-rock collectable LPs CDs" is $1 ($2 overseas)
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::Name::
Bananamoon
::Address::
PO Box 110952, Cleveland, OH 44111
::Phone::
216 671 8305
::Fax::
216 671 8305
::Email::
bmoon AT netcom.com
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.geocities.com/Paris/2190/>
::Phone::
216-671-8305
::Comments::
Progressive rock and psych from around the world. Strong emphasis
on Italian prog. All manner of goodies from Delerium, Vinyl Magic,
Mellow, Germanofon, etal. Email for catalog, updated monthly,
or for inclusion on mailing list. Want lists, suggestions welcome!
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::Name::
Barking Pumpkin Records/Barfko Swill?
::Phone::
1-818-PUMPKIN
::Comments::
This is Frank Zappa's mailorder business for Zappa and the Mother
of Invention releases and products such as posters, tshirts, etc.
The line usually has an informational recording during non business
hours, and I think they also answer general questions about Zappa
and take orders during regular business hours - probably 9am-
5pm California time.
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::Name::
Cadence
::Address::
Cadence Bldg, Redwood, NY 13679
::Comments::
Extensive jazz/folk catalog which you must subscribe to. Also have
some avante-garde and fusion releases.
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::Name::
CRI - Composers Recordings Incorporated
::Address::
73 Spring St. Suite 506, New York, NY 10012-5800
::Comments::
List over one hundred artists in their 1992 catalog. Mostly
Neo-classical/avante garde. Lou Harrison, John Zorn, Milton
Babbit, Harry Partch, Otto Leuning, Guy Klucesvek, etc...
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::Name::
Calendula Records / Mt.Olympus Imports
::Address::
Rick Haney, c/o 6207 22nd Ave, Seattle, WA 98115
::Comments::
Now here's a guy who I had a real bad mail order experience
with. I sent him money for both of the HAPPY THE MAN CD's (Japanese
Pressings), which he had listed in his catalog. Six months later I
got one of them, and a refund for the other. This was after about
40 long distance phone calls to his answering machine he never
once returned a call, and it turns out that at the time he put his
catalog out, he didn't have the discs in stock, in fact hadn't even
ordered them yet. His idea was to take a bunch of orders THEN order
them after he had enough to guarantee a healthy profit for himself.
I had a bad experience with a record store in Seattle that was either
called Mount Olympus or that was the title of a mailorder catalog I
later got associated with that store. I went to a store in Seattle
and found an amazing stock of new and used progressive rock there. I
bought a bunch of stuff and after I left town I called to arrange
another order which a friend was to pick up for me. Many of the LPs
they had were priced at high collectors prices, and I specifically
asked them for a handful of releases, and I asked them to pull any
2 of about 6 releases they had by Embryo. The friend got there and
found the order totaled $185 instead of the $70 I'd told him it would
be, and he thought something was fishy and didn't take the order. A
month or two later I found the store billed my VISA card anyway,
and they still had the records "held" for me because they didn't
have my shipping address. Turns out they'd pulled they entire Embryo
section priced at $25 each thinking I'd wanted them all. I resolved
it and was happy to get LPs I couldn't find anywhere else, but it
was pretty sleazy on their part. The Mount Olympus catalogs I saw
had a lot of rare LPs, but at very high prices. It was (loosely?)
affiliated with the store that tried to burn me. This happened
around late 1987, so it's possible that the store and/or mailorder
biz are gone now or operating under another name. I would recommend
that you make sure you know exactly what you're getting before you
send any money to these folks or place an order.
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::Name::
CD Connection
::Address::
1016 East El Camino, #322 Sunnyvale, CA 94087
::Phone::
(408) 733-0801
::Fax::
(408) 733-0850
::Modem::
(408) 730-9015 Up to 9600 bps (8 data, 0 parity, 1 stop), San
Francisco/Berkeley (510) 843-1259, Chicago (312) 751-2447, New
York City (212) 532-4045
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.cdconnection.com/>
::Comments::
58,000+ Cds listed on-line, accepts VISA, MasterCard, $3 per
regular order; free shipping on orders of $100 within 48 US
states, Phonolog(tm)-Select - industry standard song/track title
database. Downloadable catalogs so you can search offline, and
available via mail for $5 (deductible from next/first order). The
Golden Ears Society - music critics. Ships to Canada, Overseas
shipping info available. Claims 94% average ability to deliver - 90
-100% of orders filled. Delivery of orders requires approximately
1 work week + shipping time (1-2.5 weeks depending on location. A
separate account must be established on each system (city) you
will be using if you call more than one location of this company
to place orders.
If you're on the internet, you can telnet to cdconnection.com and get
a full, online database search of their stuff plus the facilities
to order by credit card. I found CD CONENCTION's prices not too
bad but their overseas shipping charges are outrageous.
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::Name::
CD Europe
::Address::
PO Box 8561, Deerfield Beach, FL 33443
::Phone::
305-481-8984 (Orderline: 9-5 EST 5 weekdays), 305-481-1724
(Customer Service: 9-5 EST weekdays),
::Fax::
305-481-8817 (24 hours a day, 7 days a week)
::Modem::
408-985-2094 Up to 9600 bps (8n1)
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.cdeurope.com/>
::Comments::
Like CD CONNECTION above but specialises in European imports
(for the US). Unlike CD CONNECTION, their overseas shipping
rates aren't too bad but their prices are high. If you are on the
internet, you can telnet to cdeurope.com to access their entire
catalogue. You can also order on-line using credit cards. Very
useful but, like CD CONNECTION, very costly.
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::Name::
Cleefo
::Address::
Box 652, Ellington CT 06029
::Phone::
(203) 875-2315 3-10PM EST
::Comments::
Cleefo (that's his name) specializes in cutout CDs, Cassettes
and Videos of all types. He used to send out a list, but rarely
does anymore as his stock turns over so quickly. Just this year
(92) he was able to get me two long- out-of-print Synergy CD's
and Dixie Dregs "Dregs of the Earth" CD. It's best to just call
and let him know what you're looking for. I've never had any
problems with his service, he's always been friendly and helpful
on the phone, and has a network of other record-show type dealers
that he works with, which in some cases allows him to get some
long-lost obscurities in record time. (he couldn't find me a copy
of Utopia's POV though !!). Overall very good prices.
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::Name::
Coriolis Records
::Address::
Box 3528, Orange, CA 92665
::Comments::
They handle only a very limited selection of (mostly) Southern
Cal. independent artists: Walter Holland, Djam Karet, Neuronium,
Steve Roach, Mark Dwane, and a handful of others.
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::Name::
Daystar
::Address::
PO Box 411, Huntington Station, NY 11746
::Comments::
A small label. Stuff by Heresy(prog), Ernest Woodall (Emusic),
Tony Garone (avant-folk) and others.
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::Name::
Da Music
::Address::
Box 3, Little Silver, NJ 07739
::Comments::
A lot like Backroads. With a bit more jazz and instrumental.
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::Name::
Dutch East India Trading
::Address::
PO BOX 800, Rockville Centre, NY 11571-0800
::Comments::
Carries some Wyatt and Soft Machine BBC releases and probably
other BBC Peel Sessions too. Appears to be licensing the material
from Strange Fruit records. I've heard that they have a mailorder
catalog but I haven't asked for it because I can find the releases
in local stores here already.
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::Name::
Ear/Rational Music
::Address::
2770 Arapahoe Rd. #132-120, Lafayette, CO 80026
::Fax::
810/222-1904 vox/fax
::Email::
contact AT ear-rational.com
::Comments::
Quite a large selection of ambient/industrial music.
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::Name::
Echo-Discs
::Address::
PO Box 224, Eagle, PA 19480
::Comments::
Distribute the stuff you would hear on the program "Echoes". Mostly
newagey/emusic with some jazz/acoustic.
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::Name::
Electronic Cottage
::Address::
PO Box 3637, Apollo Beach, FL 33572
::Comments::
I quote "...the magazine dedicated to electronic audio folk art,
cassette culture and electronic experimental music! An inside
look at the indie music scene featuring articles, profiles and
editorials by home tapers themselves!"
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::Name::
ESD - East Side Digital
::Address::
530 North 3rd Street, Minneapolis, MN 55401
::Phone::
612 375 0233
::Fax::
612 359 9580
::Email::
esd AT noside.com
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.noside.com/esd>
::Comments::
A small label that has releases by Fred Frith, Henry Cow, Happy
The Man, National Health, The Residents, and more. Last time I
wrote they mailed me a catalog that was months out of date, but the
prices were pretty decent and cheaper than other mailorder vendors
that carry their releases. Associated with Ryko's mailorder too.
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::Name::
Eurock Distribution
::Address::
PO Box 13718, Portland, OR 97213
::Phone::
(503) 281-0247 (10 AM - 5 PM US Pacific Time ONLY !!! Mon-Sat)
::Email::
apatters AT teleport.com
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.teleport.com/~apatters/>
::Comments::
Eurock started as a magazine in 1973, specializing in European
progressive, space rock and electronic music. The owner of this
enterprise is Archie Patterson, whose preferences lie primarily
in electronic driven space music and melodic progressive rock, and
his lists tend to reflect this. His lists come out every 60 days,
and each item is accompanied by a brief description and synopsis
which I've found to be very accurate for the most part. He has his
own in-house label (also called Eurock) which features artists like
Gandalf, Green Isac, Erik Wollo, Dweller At the Threshold and Tim
Story. One thing to note is that Eurock generally does not restock
items after they are sold out unless the demand is overwhelming,
and he gets things in fairly modest quantities, so the best policy
is to give him a call as soon as the catalog comes out to reserve
the items you want - if you wait more than a few weeks some things
will no longer be in stock. Generally he's happy to discuss the
items he has in stock over the phone if you need more information,
and in fact I'd recommend this, as he can get your feedback from
previous orders and learn what your tastes are and make specific
recommendations for you. I've been dealing with Eurock for about 7
or 8 years, and I have never had any problems, nor do I know anyone
who has... He generally delivers within 2-3 weeks after receipt
of payment. Does accept credit cards. The newest development with
Eurock is the Web page where he posts each catalog as it comes
out and includes audio and visual supplements as well as special
features on specific artists. In the future it will become even
more of an information source eventually evolving into a site that
attempts to keep people updated on the latest news and music in
the Eurock genre.
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::Name::
Kinesis Inc.
::Address::
1430 Wisp Ct, Hanover, MD 21076-1693
::Phone::
410-551-8081
::Fax::
410-551-8081
::Email::
info AT kinesiscd.com
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.kinesiscd.com>
::Comments::
The Kinesis label sports such artists as Fonya, Cathedral and
Illuvatar. They have an excellent web page and take credit
cards. They also have CDs by other labels for sale.
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::Name::
Mantis Music
::Address::
PO Box 567, Hampstead, MD 21074
::Phone::
410-374-5016
::Email::
mantis2 AT erols.com
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.erols.com/mantis2/>
::Comments::
Used LPs only. Phone only between 10am and 10pm EST and ask for
Allen.
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::Name::
Music Books Plus
::Address::
2315 Whirlpool St., #132 Niagara Falls, NY 14305
::Address::
23 Hannover Dr., #7 St. Catharines, ON L2W 1A3, Canada
::Phone::
(905) 641-3471
::Fax::
(905) 641-1512
::Email::
info AT nor.com
::Comments::
Music Books Plus distributes worldwide books and videos on music,
songwriting, recording, audio, multimedia, video, lighting and
computers. To subscribe to the free monthly electronic newsletter,
send message to email address above. To receive a printed catalog,
include postal address. Contact: Tricia Janzen.
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::Name::
G.A.S. - Gong Appreciation Society
::Address::
Gas America, Po Box 1151, North Wales, PA 19454
::Comments::
GAS in the USA offers some merchandise, tapes, tour info and
newsletters but carries less of the rare tapes and CDs and other
products compared to GAS UK. See GAS UK listing in the international
mailorder section for more details. Not really a mailorder source,
but worth mentioning here:
Gong San Francisco Concert info hotline
P.O. Box 470535
SF, CA 94147-0535
(415)905-4535
Info about upcoming San Francisco area shows and releases by Gong and
Gong-related tour network. Daevid Allen, The Magick Brothers, Tim
Blake, Mother Gong, and Gilli Smyth have done local shows already,
and Richard Sinclair, Kevin Ayers, David Cross band, and Gordon
Haskell are some of the artists possibly playing here in the future.
Also, if you're interested in Gong, see the Spectrum Music Video
listing for info on a Gongmaison live video they carry. Send an
SASE to them for more info.
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::Name::
Generations Unlimited
::Address::
199 Strathmore #5, Brighton, MA 02135-5210
::Comments::
Focus tends to be on hard core electronics. David Prescott,
Jorge Thomasius and Conrad Schnitzler. Also distribute Badland,
Radium, Pogus and other labels.
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::Name::
Grand Rapids CD
::Address::
3544 Plainfield NE, Grand Rapids, MI 49505
::Phone::
616-363-4960
::Fax::
616-363-1078
::Email::
STGRCD AT aol.com
::Comments::
We currently stock over 500 Prog/Elec Cds and have a free catalogue
for mail order.
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::Name::
Used-Music Web
::WWW::
<URL:http://cygnus.uwa.edu.au/~cpudney/usedmusic/>
::Comments::
Buy, sell, trade and advertise used CDs, vinyl, cassettes etc.
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::Name::
Labyrinth
::Address::
575 3 St. Apt. 1-D, Brooklyn, NY 11215
::Comments::
A mail-order distributor run by my friend Tony Coulter (who does a
great radio show on WFMU). He's an expert on obscure progressive
rock, a lot of which he has available for sale or trade. He also
carries a lot of Recommended/Re stuff. Some random items from
his current catalog: Ron Geesin, Super Sister (Dutch prog rock),
Blegvad, Re Quarterly, obscure Italian prog rock, Fat, Faust, R.
Stevie Moore, and many many things I've never heard of. Carries
LPS and CDs.
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::Name::
Doug Larson
::Address::
62 Crane St., Caldwell NJ 07006
::Phone::
(201) 226-6332
::Email::
douglars AT hicom.net
::Comments::
Doug has a very extensive list of all kinds of progressive from
all over the world, and his prices are fairly reasonable. A really
easy guy to deal with and not too opinionated about things. If you
call (after 4PM EST) he'll take your order right then and ship
it as soon as he gets payment. He sends everything out priority
mail, which all makes his TAT very quick. From the west coast, my
experience has been typically 7 working days from the day I phoned
in the order and sent the payment, to the day the discs arrive.
That beats everyone else hands down, even guys on the west coast
Doug's definitely the fastest turnaround in the business. He handles
a really good selection of Italian 70's prog, I'm really impressed
with his selection of other types of stuff too. He will make a
sampler tape of various discs in his list for a nominal charge,
but don't ask him to record the whole disc, just selections. He
advertises in goldmine every two weeks, which is a good way to keep
up with the new stuff he gets in stock. He's also got an extensive
list of rare and o/p LP's. Highly Recommended.
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::Name::
The Laser's Edge
::Address::
P.O. Box 388, Voorhees, NJ 08043-0388
::Email::
lasercd AT aol.com
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.lasercd.com/>
::Phone::
(856) 751 6444 (1PM to 6PM EST)
::Fax::
(856) 751 7466
::Comments::
Run by Ken Golden. A good man who is also a self-confessed Cranky
Old Bastard.
The Laser's Edge is a Label and mail-order CD only distribution run
by Ken Golden. Ken gets the medal for having positively the most
descriptive and informative catalog of any mail-order outfit I've
ever dealt with, every disc is reviewed carefully, and opinions are
offered - one of the few people I've ever seen who will tell you that
a disc he carries is crappy if it really is! The in-house label (TLE
also) has many releases mostly by long forgotten independent artists
from the 70's, but there are some new releases as well. Artists
include: The Load, A Triggering Myth, Werwolf, Landberk, Spring,
Nightwinds, Atlantis Philharmonic and others.
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::Name::
Linden Music
::Address::
PO Box 520, Linden, VA 22642
::Email::
linden AT shentel.net
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.shentel.net/linden/>
::Comments::
Carries Kit Watkins releases and other stuff by his cohorts in
Happy the Man, as well as other new-age, electronic and space
artists. Has advanced on-line ordering facilities using First
Virtual.
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::Name::
M M
::Address::
P.O. Box 63, Ashland, MA 01721
::Email::
MMMusic AT ix.netcom.com
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/4500>
::Comments::
The proprietor's name is Mark. Don't know the last name. He doesn't
deal in super rare stuff, but he only does Prog and fusion.
His prices are good, and he does stock a nice little selection
of new independent things (such as my own). He's always been
reliable and fast when I've ordered from him, and he has a sale
every few months.
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::Name::
Metro Records
::Address::
PO Box 10004, Silver Spring, Maryland 20914, USA
::Email::
luchchuk AT aol.com
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.idsonline.com/business/metro/>
::Comments::
Another Goldmine advertiser. Stocks a lot of progressive,
psychedelic, fusion, and plain old rock and roll of various
persuasions. They deal in CD's, LP's, etc., etc. Their catalog
is a must for the serious collector. I've had excellent
service, including free shipping for giving them some Internet
info(!). They're not cheap, but their prices are in line with
other vendors of obscure music.
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::Name::
Midnight Records
::Address::
PO Box 390, Old Chelsea Station, NY NY 10011
::Email::
midnight AT cerfnet.com
::Comments::
Another Goldmine advertiser. Stocks a lot of progressive,
psychedelic, fusion, and plain old rock and roll of various
persuasions. They deal in CD's, LP's, etc., etc. Their catalog is
a must for the serious collector. I've had excellent service. They
request alternate selections due to problems keeping obscure
albums in stock, and they'll make every effort to fill an order
even if they don't have the item in stock. I asked them about
the availability of two LP's once, and they went out and got
them for me. They're not cheap, but their prices are in line
with other vendors of obscure music.
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::Name::
Craig Moerer
::Address::
PO Box 19231, Portland, OR 97280
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.records-by-mail.com/>
::Comments::
Publishes an extensive list of records/CDs/45s/collectors
stuff. Mostly rock but some em/progressive stuff. A lot of lesser
known rock and some oldies. Most of their vinyl is used but in
very good to mint condition. Fully searchable Web site of some
33,000 (and expanding) titles.
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::Name::
Of Sound Mind
::Address::
4134 E. Joppa Road #104, Batlimore, MD 21236
::Phone::
(301) 497-6488
::Fax::
(410) 529-5761
::Comments::
The East Coast's prog Mecca! After David Hodgson closed down
Playing By Ear in Baltimore and moved it out West, Chris Lamka
bought the store and the stock. He later moved it up the road a
few miles. Chris concentrates more on progressive than David did,
with an excellent selection of Italian, Brazilian, French and US
prog (other countries are well-represented also). Good electronic
selection, also. Chris is very supportive of the prog scene in
and around Baltimore, with many in-store appearances of local
and regional prog acts. Rumor has it he's trying to set up a prog
fest of his own... Prices aren't quite as good as Ranjits', but
this business is the man's bread and butter, so I really don't
mind that much.
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::Name::
Parasol/Cargo
::Address::
201 North Coler, Urbana, IL 61801
::Comments::
YAID... Yet another indie distributor. Everything from AAAK to
Hector Zazou, also imports on Creation.
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::Name::
Park Avenue Records, P.O. Box 19296, Seattle, WA 98109
::Phone::
206-282-5604
::Comments::
I haven't ordered anything from them yet, but I have seen their
big catalog and been very impressed. (I know folks who have
ordered from them and been perfectly satisfied.)
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::Name::
Ponk Records/Passed Normal Compilations
::Address::
Po Box 3664, Bloomington, IL 61702
::Phone::
(309)365-4491
::Fax::
(309)365-4491
::Email::
PinkBob AT aol.com
::Comments::
Small, odd selection of compilations and mailorder with some cheap
and some regularly priced items. Includes works by Frith, Kaiser,
Don Cherry, Sun Ra, Negativland, Daevid Allen, Mother Gong, Made
To Measure and more.
Monthly catalog, 12 pages, now concentrated around their own
releases including the new Hugh Hopper, a recent Henry Kaiser and Amy
Denio. Small new and used CDs area, very Gong-based, Frith, Kaiser,
Geesin. Some used vinyl, too. They also give information about
`their' artists, mainly tourdates: Gong, Amy Denio and related,
Frank Pahl and related, `Steve Horowitz and The Code'.
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::Name::
Possible Productions
::Address::
351 Magnolia Avenue, Long Beach, CA 90802
::Fax::
310-491-1945
::Email::
dinokiller AT aol.com
::Comments::
Official US outlet for King Crimson/Robert Fripp projects on the
Discipline label. They accept credit card orders by email.
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::Name::
Progressive International
::Address::
1655 11th Street, Ogden Utah 84404
::Phone::
(801) 394-7700
::Fax::
(801) 394-7707
::Comments::
All along they have been a mail order outlet and, although I've
rarely dealt with them by mail, I've heard a lot of horror stories
not unlike my dealings with Calendula (see above). I personally
have no bad experiences. Their in-house label features artists
like Solstice, Xaal, Sinister Street, Anthony Phillips, Gryphon,
Steeleye Span, Aragon, Wayne Kramer and others. They are getting
national distribution in major chain stores like Tower and others, so
there's really no need to buy their titles directly from them. They
also handle distribution for bands like Galahad and Final Conflict,
and stock a modest selection of other imported titles as well,
although my feeling is that they would like to get out of the direct
mail-order business altogether and sell to distributors only. Like
many others, I've found that these guys are less than totally
reliable about getting things in that they say they will get in,
so my recommendation is to never order anything unless they have
it in stock when you order.
They recently issued a catalog which explains that they decided to
start up the mail distribution service again "due to the abundance
of letters and phone calls we have received". You may want to add
also that (as far as I can tell) they seem to have the lowest prices
of any catalog--$10.98 for in house, $11.98 for other domestics,
and $12.98 for most imports. As for their being `risky', I would
give them another chance before writing them off.
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::Name::
Ranjit Padmanabhan
::Address::
566 Crystalberry Terrace, San Jose, CA 95129
::Email::
ranjit AT netcom.com
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.webpage.com/~progtron/>
::Comments::
Such a clever idea: Sell CD's over the net. Anyway, I'd been
hearing about Ranjit for a couple years, mostly from Ken Welchoff
of Progressive, who recommended him highly, before I actually got
in touch with him. It was other netters highest recommendations
that finally convinced me. He sends out periodic "Descriptive"
catalogs over the net, as well as simple lists that list everything
he has in stock. All you need to do is email him and ask him to
send it. He's a very friendly guy, knowledgeable and helpful, his
selection is extremely good and his prices are good also. Once your
order is confirmed, he holds it for you, you send him the payment,
and he sends you the discs. Very simple, very convenient. He also
carries all currently available issues of Audion Magazine, and,
like Doug Larson, will make a sampler tape of things from his
list for a nominal fee.
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::Name::
Rockaway Records
::Address::
2395 Glendale Blvd., CA 90039
::Phone::
(213) 664-0956
::Comments::
These guys offer CDs of some live shows, Westwood One radio
discs, etc. but nothing specifically progressive, just general
interest. Ordered once - service was fast.
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::Name::
RPM Records
::Address::
1900 Oates Drive, STE 200 Mesquite, Texas 75150
::Phone::
214-681-8441
::Fax::
214-681-9486
::Email::
rpmrec AT metronet.com
::WWW::
<URL:http://rpmrecords.metronet.com/>
::Comments::
We have been in business for 14 years. We sell new, used, domestic
and import, CD's, LP's, Cass and Laser Videos. Our specialty is
60's and 70's rarities, progressive and alternative. We also have a
large selection of Japanese laser discs. We have a 3,200 square ft
store on the corner of Interstate 635 and Oates Drive in Mesquite
(a suburb of Dallas). We ship out daily UPS, and accept all major
credit cards.
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::Name::
Round Sounds
::Phone::
(310) 376-1701
::email::
music AT roundsounds.com
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.roundsounds.com/>
::Comments::
Round Sounds is now a net-based mail-order business. The proprietors
name is Ed, and he's a real friendly guy who'll gladly offer an
opinion on something in his list (which is mailed out at irregular
intervals and has no descriptions, just a list). Every time I'm
in southern California I always make a point to stop by his store,
he has a lot of "Rare" CD's (ahem) that he doesn't put in his list.
Most unfortunately, Ed has closed his Pacific Coast Highway
storefront. He continues to run his intermittent (to say the least)
mail order, and he pops up at the occasional record swap meet.
When I last tried telephoning, I got a forwarding number of (310)
376-1701, however,
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::Name::
Sights Sounds
::Address::
332 Broad St, Red Bank, NJ 07701
::Phone::
1-908-530-8866
::Fax::
1-908-530-9868 (24 hrs)
::Email::
GENESISMAN AT aol.com
::Comments::
We like all types of progressive rock and have been in business
three years promoting and distributing bands from all over the world.
We have an extensive database of over 6000 titles and are compiling
the most comprehensive world guide to progressive rock ever seen
to date. Our catalogs are descriptive and offer some of the best
prices in the industry. We take payment by Check($ only) Money
Order, International Money Order, Visa, Mastercard. We are always
looking for new bands or labels to distribute and we offer the
largest selection of American progressive bands!
Catalogs are updated quarterly and may soon be done on a monthly
basis. In addition we have a World WIde Web page in the works
for later in 1995 from which you will be able to directly get the
catalog on-line and place orders through.
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::Name::
Silent
::Address::
540 Alabama, Suite 315, San Francisco, CA 94110
::Comments::
Carry stuff by Merzbow, Art Bears, Von Magnet, Einstürzende
Neubauten, Big Butter, etc.
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::Name::
Soleilmoon Recordings
::Address::
PO Box 83296, Portland, OR 97283
::Phone::
(503) 335 0706
::Fax::
(503) 335 0805
::Email::
soleilmoon AT aol.com
::Comments::
Deals in experimental/industrial music almost exclusively. They
have a very good catalogue which they'll send you if you mail
them.
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::Name::
Spectrum Music Video
::Phone::
1-800-84MUSIC
::Comments::
Has a very large music video catalog of NTSC VHS and many laser
discs including imports. Includes some Prog stuff like King
Crimson, Enid, etc. They carry the Gongmaison 1991, Brixton, UK
show at the Fridge for sale for $19.95 plus $3.50 shipping. This
video has some great special effects and brief interviews with
Daevid Allen and Didier are spliced in. It's great! It includes
lots of old Gong material circa Camembert Electrique.
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::Name::
Syn-Phonic
::Address::
PO Box 2034, La Habra, CA 90631
::Phone::
(714) 894-9506 (M-Th 7PM-10PM PST)
::Email::
progregwalker AT sprynet.com
::Comments::
Syn-phonic is owned by Greg Walker, who also has an in-house label
which specializes primarily in American progressive artifacts, but he
also has some current artists signed. The roster includes Kalaban,
Now, Babylon, Mirthrandir, Northstar, Cathedral and others. For
years he was releasing this stuff on vinyl only, notorious for their
marginal pressing quality. However, since around 1991 Greg has been
releasing CDs only, and unlike the LPs, no quality was spared on
these, either in the pressings or the booklets, which tend to have
extensive information on the artists, much like America's answer to
Musea. He has gone back and re-released much of his vinyl on disc
now, and eventually plans to re-release everything and then some. His
mail-order list is extensive, and includes imports from all over
the world. His prices on Japanese product are the best anywhere,
frankly I don't know how he can do it, but his prices are roughly
the same as one would pay in Tokyo! He also has an amazing selection
of 70's Italian product. His service is very good, prompt TAT, and
although he seems to be difficult to get hold of on the phone, when
you do catch him he is very helpful and honest. He's one of the few
that'll tell you something in his list is garbage. I was ready to
order something once, and he recommended I save my money !! Also,
for those who are into vinyl, he still stocks things on both formats,
whenever available, although I imagine the LPs will disappear from
his stock eventually.
Syn-phonic is my favorite place to order from. Greg Walker is
easy to deal with, and gives honest evaluations of the music.
He's very prompt - you'll always get the discs you order in less
than 2 weeks. On top of that, his selection is excellent, and prices
are consistently low. I highly recommend Syn-phonic.
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::Name::
Tec Tones/Ralph Records/Negativmailorderland
::Address::
P.O. Box 1477, Hoboken, NJ 07030
::Phone::
201/420-0238
::Fax::
201/420-6494
::Comments::
TEC TONES is the mailorder wing of Ralph Records, TEC Tones
releases, and Negativland products. They also carry some other
items like imports of Fred Frith and ESD Henry Cow releases. Mainly
it's the mailorder company for the Residents' releases and for
Frith, Snakefinger, Clubfoot and other releases on the Ralph
label and distribution for some other small labels from the US
and other parts of the world.
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::Name::
Van Richter Records
::Address::
PO Box 13321, La Jolla, CA 92039
::Phone::
(619) 452-2322
::Fax::
(619) 453-1799
::WWW::
<URL:http://lab11.me.gatech.edu/vanrichter>
::Coments::
Industrial label/mail order outlet. Accepts on-line orders through
the Web.
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::Name::
Voiceprint
::Address::
PO Box 32827, Kansas City, MO 64111
::Phone::
(816) 561-0723 business # (and home # too?)
::Fax::
(816) 531-2271
::Comments::
Rick Chafen at Voiceprint books the US tours of the Gong/Canterbury
network (which strays beyond those parameters but it's the easiest
way to describe it). Rick has helped present or is working on
tours by Daevid Allen, The Magick Brothers, Tim Blake, Mother Gong,
Gilli Smyth, Richard Sinclair, Kevin Ayers, Didier Malherbe Trio,
David Cross band, and Gordon Haskell. He's the person to talk to
if you'd like to help book shows by these artists in your city.
Voiceprint US has a couple of products and also imports UK
Voiceprint releases by Daevid Allen, Magick Brothers, Tim Blake,
Nic Potter, David Jackson, Robert Wyatt and more. A number of
releases including early Canterbury and recent Canterbury projects
and also works by David Bedford, Kevin Ayers. These releases can be
ordered from Voiceprint or from other distributors at comparable
prices. Voiceprint tends to only stock a few copies of the UK VP
releases. Very occasional catalogs or newsletters are mailed out.
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::Name::
Wayside Music
::Address::
PO Box 8427, Silver Spring, MD 20902-8427
::Phone::
(301) 589-1803 new release info (recording) (no catalog requests
via phone, you must write for a catalog or view it on the Web
page)
::WWW::
<URL:http://cuneiformrecords.com/>
::Fax::
(301) 589-1819
::Comments::
Wayside is the Mail Order outfit that I've been dealing with the
longest, probably around 8 or 9 years. They have two catalogs: An
annual "Green" catalog of Items they keep in stock all year long,
plus a quarterly (?) "White" catalog that lists Items that are
either new in stock or that will not be restocked after they are
gone, many of these items are very limited quantity stuff, so after
you get the white catalog it's best to act fast. Wayside carries a
wide variety of progressive stuff, but clearly favors the fringe,
RIO, and other uncategorizable material over the `melodic pop'
type progressive. They have an in-house label: Cuneiform, featuring
artists like Univers Zero, PFS, Curlew, Richard Pinhas, Dr. Nerve,
Miriodor, Henry Kaiser, Phil Miller, However, Forever Einstein,
etc. The catalogs usually have a brief (3-6 line) description of
the items they carry. I've found these descriptions to sometimes
be inaccurate and misleading, so it's best to proceed with caution
if you're about to buy something you've never heard of based on a
Wayside description ... Then again these catalog descriptions have
sometimes led to some really nice surprises. Complaints: First and
foremost is their lack of a live telephone for order confirmation,
and secondly the they take too long - sometimes up to six weeks
- to send out the orders. Usually it takes about a month. On the
plus side, they've recently added credit card payment as an option,
which means you no longer have to list a bunch of alternatives you
don't really want or receive credit slips.
Wayside is also a good source for mailorder for folks outside the
USA. It's one of the few catalogs I recall that lists international
shipping rates, and based on what I've heard it offers fairly
competitive rates compared to what CDs sell for in some parts of
the world.
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::Name::
The Wild Places (Adventures In Vinyl... And Beyond.)
::Address::
621 "A" Hanover Street, Santa Cruz, CA 95062
::Phone::
(408) 427-3043 (Don't call after 10pm PST!)
::Comments::
Run by Michael Piper. His first catalog (March 93) is 42 pages of
new and used LPs and CDs, with a lot more vinyl than cd stock. The
catalog probably has about 1400 items or more, mostly obscure
psychadelic and progressive. Some of the prices are collectors
prices (one item here is listed at $975!) but there's a lot of
reasonably priced items too. I bought from him once. He gave me
a partial refund with the order because he noticed the condition
wasn't quite as good as he had rated it in the catalog.
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::Name::
ZNR Records
::Address::
P.O.Box 58040, Louisville, KY 40268-0040
::Email::
ZNR AT aol.com
::Comments::
Have their own label. I wrote to them once about a couple specific
titles, he had them but the asking price was a joke. Asked them
to send a catalog, they sent an auction list of some rare prog
LPs. I know a lot of people who buy from them.
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::Name::
Zounds Records
::Address::
3422 Cherry Tree Ln., Erlanger, KY 41018
::Comments::
The guy who runs Zounds was the former partner of Steve Roberts
of ZNR (he's the `Z'). I've ordered from him with no problems
for the most part, though I did get one LP (an expensive one)
which I thought was not in the advertised condition.
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Vendors Outside the USA
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::Name::
Beastone Records/Hideake Ueda
::Address::
24-15-405, Atsubetsu-Chuo 4-2, Sapporo 004, Japan
::Comments::
I've only ordered from Beastone a few times, their catalog is
extensive but mostly general interest stuff (non-progressive),
but they do (or did) have a decent selection of "Live" (ahem)
CD's and other "Rarities"... And he will find things for you that
aren't in the catalog. My first dealing with Beastone was in an
effort to locate the o/p Happy the Man CD that I didn't get from
Calendula (see above), and they came through almost immediately
! I haven't ordered from them in a long time, but they do take
IMO's in US Currency, and deliver stuff very quickly (more quickly
than most domestic outfits). Hideake Ueda is the guy's name.
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::Name::
Bernard Ballet
::Address::
Metropolis Import, 12 Rue Saint-Leonard, 44000 NANTES, France
::Phone::
(16) 40 89 12 03
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::Name::
Broken Records
::Address::
PO Box 4416, London, SW19 8XR, UK
::Comments::
Run by Dave Stewart and Barbara Gaskin. Deals mainly in their
material and related stuff. You can get the National Health
"Complete" CD set from here in the UK.
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::Name::
CD Connection
::Address::
P.O. Box 10 14 31, 6900 Heidelberg, Germany
::Comments::
Advertises in Goldmine; carries lots of bootlegs. Some folks I
know have dealt with them with no problem. Another friend claims
to have been ripped off and says he knows other who have been too.
Goldmine refused to get involved in any disputes between advertisor
and customer. If you order from these guys you run the risk of
customs seizures. Best bet is to insure, which won't protect from
customs but might help if they claim the discs were shipped and
you never received them.
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::Name::
CD Distributions
::Address::
Postbus 460, 3990 GG Houten, The Netherlands
::Phone::
31-30-6341682
::Fax::
31-30-6341682
::Comments::
Apparently filling in the gap left by the defunct SI Music outlet.
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::Name::
Compact Disc Services
::Address::
40-42 Bruntwood Avenue, Dundee, DD3 6EW, Scotland
::Phone::
(01382) 776595
::Fax::
(01382) 736702
::Comments::
Their main specialty is electronic and new age synth music: what
they don't know about the availability of T.Dream, Kit Watkins,
Gandalf, etc, etc, isn't worth knowing. They are also very helpful
with all manner of progressive stuff, including Gong, Canterbury,
Bruford, Camel, etc, etc. These were the guys who, when I called
up about a CD of Pink Floyd's Relics, instantly knew that it was
only ever available from Australia, its legality was in some doubt,
and has been out of print for about two years. They will get imports
from anywhere in the world, and if you're thinking about a Japanese
import, they will often have a good idea whether it's likely to soon
become available from elsewhere, and therefore be much cheaper if you
wait a while. Their prices are not discounted, and they do charge
postage, but they give a good service (recorded delivery within
the UK), and always seem to know how to try and get obscure stuff.
Very good outlet, reliable with reasonable prices (for Britain
:-). This months ad shows releases by Anyone's Daughter, Asia Minor,
Cannata, Circus, Cirkel, The Enid, Ivory, Kaipa, Kayak, Mercy Train,
Mythos, Pendragon, Red Jasper, SRC and Summer Indoors all for around
$17.00.
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::Name::
Compact Huset
::Address::
Austmannav. 9, P.O.Box 1756, 5501 Haugesund, Norway
::Phone::
+47 52 71 61 70
::Fax::
+47 52 72 98 19
::Comments::
They deal in all kinds of music, if interested in special things,
talk to Arnstein (manager) who know most about everything. They
are very helpful. They release 2 main catalogs and 10 updates
pr. year. Catalogues can be subscribed for 5-6 pounds for one
year, 9-10 for two years. Most of the catalog is printed in
norwegian, but there are some english columns as well. Their
normal prices are around 13-14 pounds of which 18.02% can be
deducted (norw. VAT). Special offers, discounts etc. are also
obtainable. Orders for foreign customers are at minimum 500
nok (45-47 pounds), orders can be phoned, faxed or mailed
(snail-mail). Note that it is the cost of the total order
that is important, not the actual cost (if any records are
unavailable). They prefer payment by creditcards (VISA, AMERICAN
EXPRESS and MASTERCARD), but pre-payment is also accepted through
a proforma invoice. If things are out of stock, and therefore the
delivery takes some time, they will inform you on your order-status
if you call them. A very helpful bunch of people.
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::Name::
Cranium Music
::Address::
PO Box 103-09, Te Rapa, Hamilton, New Zealand
::Phone::
+64 7 8299 840
::Fax::
+64 7 8299 980
::Email::
richard AT cranium.co.nz
::WWW::
<URL:http://http://www.cranium.co.nz/>
::Comments::
Import and sell Progressive, Space Rock,Psychedelic, Electronic
Experimental music. Stock totals some 1000 items with 99% being
CD's. Labels that we deal with: Acme, Cyclops, Delerium, Dovetail,
Emergency Broadcast System, Mystic Stones, Voiceprint (all UK)
Crimsonic, Foxtrot, Xotic Mind (Sweden), Erdenklang, Manikin,
Music Is Intelligence (Germany), Art Sublime, Lasers Edge, Wild
Places (USA) plus Spalax (France). We are sole distributors for
some of the above labels we are starting to get some shops stocking
Prog etc. By the way I think we can SAFELY say we are the largest
stockists of Prog, Psychedelic etc in NZ (and POSSIBLY Australia).
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::Name::
Delerium Records/The Freak Emporium
::Address::
PO Box 1288, Gerrards Cross, Bucks, SL9 9YB, UK.
::Tel::
+44 (0)1753 893008
::Fax::
+44 (0)1753 892879
::Email::
delerium AT mail.bogo.co.uk
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.delerium.co.uk/>
::Comments::
Extensive mail-order list combining new releases and
reissues. Concentrates mainly on psychedelic and underground
titles, ltd edition reissues from 60s through 90s. Send E:Mail, SAE
or IRC for current list. Updated lists of new stock also available
on request. Our tastes are quite diverse: Prog-rock, Space-Rock,
Kraut-Rock, Psychedelia, Garage, Folk-Psych, Ambient, Rave -
and everypoint inbetween. We also run our own label, dedicated to
releasing new progressive/psychedelic and underground music by new
artists; and a Porcupine Tree information service. Credit cards
accepted, but there is a 5% surcharge. Order turn-round is usually
24 to 48 hours, and goods are dispatched the same day payment is
received. Double CD "Pick Mix" label sampler available for £5 UK,
£6 Europe, £7 (or $12 US Cash) elsewhere. Cheques/PO's payable to
"Delerium Records".
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::Name::
Diffusion I Media
::Address::
4487 Rue Adam, Montreal (QC), Canada H1V 1T9
::Comments::
Carry some Canadian emusic indie artists like Michel Redolfi,
Bernard Parmaging and others. Only accept US postal MO, IMO or
check drawn on a Canadian bank.
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::Name::
Discipline Global Mobile
::Address::
PO Box 1533, Salisbury, Wiltshire, SP5 5ER
::Fax::
(+44) (01722) 781042
::Fax::
(+44) (01722) 780165
::Email::
DGM AT disciplinegm.demon.co.uk
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.discipline.co.uk/>
::Comments::
Official outlet for King Crimson/Robert Fripp projects in the UK
as part of Fripp's new distributed distribution project. They
now take credit card orders by email for which they need your
full name (as apearing on the card), full postal address, card
number and card expiry date. You can also order by credit card
from the World Wide Web page given above. A very nice Web site now
with lots of information on DGM artists, full ordering facility,
news etc. Well worth looking at.
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::Name::
G.A.S. - Gong Appreciation Society
::Address::
PO Box 871, Glastonbury, Somerset, BA6 9FE, UK
::Comments::
GAS in the UK carries a number of tapes of rare Gong and Gong
related folks, LPs, CDs, tshirts, posters, lyrics, newsletters,
tour info and other goodies. Also see the US GAS listing above.
As of 1990, GAS Membership costs 8 pounds per year. You receive
atape of unreleased material, a discount of 10% on anything
ordered, and quarterly newsletters to which you are welcome
to contribute. I suspect rates may have changed. I'd recommend
sending an IRC asking for more info.
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::Name::
Electronic Dreams
::Address::
c/o Clive Littlewood, Silverton Villa, Higher Bugle, St. Austell,
Cornwall, PL26 8PY, UK
::Phone::
+44 (01726) 850232
::Fax::
+44 (01726) 69135
::Comments::
Phone contact should ask for "Cleve" and aim to phone between
5.30 and 6.30pm. Electronic Dreams is a label and outlet for new
electronic music.
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::Name::
Eventyr Record
::Address::
PO Box 12319 - 00135, Rome, Italy
::Phone::
+39-6-3326 2264
::Fax::
::Email::
eventyr AT farm-it.com+39-6-3326 2654
::Comments::
Mail order home of the Progland label. Also carries things from the
following labels: Seventh, Ageness, Ciclo, Briskeby, Kalemegdan,
WMMS, Mezzo Disctribution, Progressive Rock Worldwide, Vinyl Top
and Ars Mundi.
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::Name::
GFT
::Address::
33a Tolworth Park Road, Tolworth, Surrey, KT6 7RL
::Phone::
+44 (0181) 339 9965 (Monday to Friday answerphone at weekends)
::Fax::
+44 (0181) 399 0070
::Email::
info AT gft-cyclops.co.uk
::Email::
sales AT gft-cyclops.co.uk
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.gft-cyclops.co.uk>
::Comments::
Good reputation. Run by Malcolm Parker who is really friendly
on the phone and very helpful generally. In addition to being
a pleasant place to order from, their prices are superb (modulo
the UK!) ... I have not seen a cheaper place in the UK. Their
catalogue has a good range, nothing too esoteric, plus special
sections devoted to Canterbury, `Head' music etc. P and P rates are
very good indeed and they seem to send orders of 3+ CDs recorded
delivery. Very quickly too ... I often get next-day service even
if I ring in the afternoon! They have a special offers list that
includes currently favoured material that's offered at an all-in
rate which includes P and P. They also send out an update with
end-of-line items. A very good mail order outlet.
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::Name::
Tim Holden
::Address::
139 Hawkfield Crescent NW, Calgary, Canada T3G 1Z4
::Phone::
(403) 241-9073 (5-9 PM PST)
::Comments::
Tim is a guy who deals mainly in used LPs and works shows in
his area, he's got good contacts with a lot of other dealers
collectors in his area, and seems to have no trouble finding rare
and out-of-print stuff if you give him a little time. He found
me 6 o/p albums by Maneige over the course of the last year, and
found the whole FM catalog for a friend of mine, including the
rare first album "Headroom", all for very reasonable prices. His
service is extremely good, turn-around-time is quick, and he's a
really friendly chap to talk with on the phone. Recommended for
o/p stuff.
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::Name::
Mike Lloyd Music Mail Order
::Address::
14-20 Brunswick Street, Hanley, Stoke-on-Trent, ST1 1DR, UK
::Phone::
(01782) 269012
::Comments::
Formerly known as Lotus Records, these guys have specialized catalogs
for Canterbury, Zeuhl (Magma), and other stuff.
I've only ordered from them once, but I got both Paga CDs as well
as the 2CD version of Magma Live. These three discs are nearly
impossible to get in the US, but I called Mike Lloyd's and got
them with no problem. Shipping did take about a month, but it
was well worth the wait. When you call, ask for Andy or Clarey,
as they handle the mail order division.
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::Name::
Mirage
::Address::
612 Southmead Road, Filton, Bristol, BS12 7RF, UK
::Comments::
Last I checked (several years ago) this was a one man operation,
Martin K Reed. He has a decent variety of British indie electronic
musicians like Ian Boddy, Steve Frost and Mark Shreeve.
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::Name::
Musea
::Address::
68 La Tinchotte, 57117 Retonfey, France
::Fax::
(33) 87366473
::Email::
musea AT id-net.fr
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.id-net.fr/musea/>
::Comments::
Musea is a label with over 200 productions to its name including
many prestigious groups such as Minimum Vital, Atoll, and Pulsar. The
Musea catalog has a thousand titles including independent productions
from all over the world as well as imports from Japan, Brazil,
Korea, Italy, Germany, Poland, etc.. The label also publishes the
French-language Musea magazine.
Musea take credit card orders by email and aim for a 3 to 5 day turn
around. They have an excellent Web catalogue and ordering service.
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::Name::
The Music Specialists
::Address::
50 Raffles Place, #03-011 Shell Tower, Singapore 0104
::Phone::
(065) 734-3775
::Fax::
(065) 224-2785
::Comments::
Carries a lot of live and bootleg CDs. Similar to the CD Connection
in Germany, but supposedly more reliable per one friend who has
used both. They'll send lists for $2.
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::Name::
Normal Mail Order
::Address::
Bonner Talweg 276, 5300 Bonn 1, Germany
::Phone::
228-22 06 55
::Fax::
228-22 16 56
::Comments::
Excellent selection of bands on tiny labels. Lots of really obscure
punk, Australian, New Zealand and German bands. They are very
prompt at answering fax enquiries and will probably mail you a
catalogue for free. They are also capable of locating out of date
obscure vinyl and CD's.
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::Name::
Ohrwaschl
::Address::
Papenheim str. 11, 80335, Munich, Germany
::Fax::
089 5504112
::Email::
ohrwaschl AT t-online.de
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.c-lab.de/~rms/ff/ohrwaschl.html>
::Comments::
The famous Krautrock label's mail order outlet. They specialise in,
surprisingly, Krautrock, 70s progressive and world-music.
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::Name::
Orage Rock Progressif Enr.
::Address::
C.P. 58058 Québec, Québec, Canada, G2B 5H4
::Phone::
(418) 847-1116
::Comments::
This is a very convenient source for Canadian prog. rock fans,
with reasonable prices (in Canadian dollars).
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::Store::
Pan y Musica
::Address::
C/ Ros de Olano 12, 08012, Barcelona, Spain
::Phone::
(93) 237-6568
::Fax::
(93) 415-0219
::Email::
pany AT nexus.es
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.thesaurus.net/panymusica/>
::Comments::
Pan Y Musica's online mail order site.
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::Name::
Pastel Blue
::Email::
Mike AT pastel.demon.co.uk
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.demon.co.uk/pastel/>
::Comments::
Here is some of the blurb you get when you send the body "help"
to the above email adress: Pastel Blue is a mail order CD and
video shop, located in England. At the last count we had 35000
CDs, 3500 CD singles, 4200 videos and 900 games in our database,
which you can search by email using commands described below. We
accept orders by email and payment by cash, cheque or credit card,
and can export to any country.
Large collection (incl. > 100.000 american import cd's), good
prices and shipping rates, reliable, but quite slow (they don't have
anything in stock). On their list there's p.e. Anglagard, Brand X,
Happy the Man, Gryphon, National Health, Yezda Urfa, ...
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::Store::
Philippe Collignon
::Address::
6 Avenue Du Site, 1200 Brussels, Belgium
::Phone::
2-7725680 (10am ro 10pm)
::Fax::
2-7711222
::Comments::
This guy is one to best places to head for that really rare LP you
can't find (especially European). He's expensive, certainly, but has
the largest stock (and catalogues) of rare and wonderful vinyl I've
come across. Covers all rock from the mid-60s on, but with a slight
emphasis on psych and prog. He also does catalogues of CD issues.
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::Store::
Piccadilly Records
::Address::
5/7 Brown Street, Manchester, M2 1DA, UK
::Phone::
+44 (0161) 839 8008
::Comments::
Not actually visited this outlet but I have had things bought for
me from there. Said things were quite obscure and had hand-written
stickers giving details of genre and links to other artists which
impressed.
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::Name::
Possible Productions
::Address::
Avenue Sana Fe 3044-1, 1425 Capital Federal, Buenos Aires,
Argentina
::Fax::
010-54-1-8211372
::Comments::
"Official" outlet for King Crimson/Robert Fripp projects in South
America.
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::Name::
Recrec Laden+Mail
::Address::
Rotwandstr 64, 8004, Zurich, Switzerland
::Phone::
+41-1 - 291 46 60
::Fax::
+41-1 - 291 46 62
::Comments::
The RecRec label has lots of quirky European releases like
Fred Frith, Bruniferd, Nimal and so on. They run a respectable
shop front and, from the same address, a mail order service.
Obviously they have all the RecRec releases in stock, but they have
a generally good selection. Their catalogue is not free. It's
a paperback about an inch thick and full of amusing opinions.
They are probably only amusing if you can read German.
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::Name::
RéR Megacorp
::Address::
79 Beulah Road, Thornton Heath, Surrey, CR7 8JG, UK
::Phone::
+44 (0181) 771 1063
::Fax::
+44 (0181) 771 3138
::Email::
jf23 AT dial.pipex.com
::Comments::
Label/business set up by central RIO musician/composer Chris
Cutler in 1978 that's still going strong. The RéR label covers a
huge diversity of musics from all over the world. What the label
covers and what the mail-order side stocks is decided purely on
Cutler's perception of musical merit. It therefore doesn't "carry
labels" as such. Issues a catalogue with frequent updates. There
is a lot of obscure and fantastic music in the RéR catalogue
... highly recommended that you take a look at it.
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::Name::
Sonic Bilby
::Address::
PO Box 884, Mt Waverly, Vic, 3149, Australia
::Email::
sonique AT mail.pcmicro.com.au
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/sb>
::Comments::
My mail order business was formed with the aim of promoting
and distributing international progressive, psychedelic, and
similar recording artists in Australia for the lowest possible
price. Undertake promotion, distribution etc. of music in addition
to maintaining a mail order catalogue.
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::Name::
Stanislav Hapla
::Address::
Jungmannova 7/692, 736 01 Havirov-Mesto, Czechoslovakia
::Comments::
A possible source for East European CD releases.
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::Name::
Super Records M.B. s.r.l
::Address::
Centro Commerciale S. Maria Novella, Firenze, 50123, Italy
::Phone::
+39-55-2349526 / +39-55-287592
::Fax::
+39-55-2349527
::Email::
superecords AT superecords.com
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.superecords.com>
::Comments::
Alternative music store: from vinyl rarities to new releases,
collector's item, records auction sales, import/export from all
over the world. Credit card on line payment. Progressive rock,
Canterbury rock, Beat Psychedelia, Prog-metal, Kraut rock, Hard
Heavy, Death Black, NWOBHM,... All the vinyl rarities that you
think you'd lost, on line sale.
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::Name::
Taxim Records
::Address::
Postfach 10 11 43, 2900 Bremen 1, Germany
::Comments::
I originally got referred to Taxim when I wrote directly to Line
Records looking for a distributor for their product. I've ordered
from them a bunch of times and have always had very good luck (they
accept major credit cards as well, which simplifies things a lot
when ordering from overseas). They apparently no longer carry the
entire Line label and as such I've had difficulty finding things in
their catalog that I couldn't find from a domestic distributor, so
I haven't ordered anything in a year or so. Prices are very good.
Catalog is a glossy mag, all in german.
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::Name::
Terrapin Trucking Company
::Address::
2 Park Road, Crouch End, London, N8 8TD, UK
::Phone::
(0181) 342-8851
::Fax::
(0181) 341-5174
::Comments::
I regularly fax orders to them using my Mastercard - if they
don't have it they don't charge for it! Shipping to America costs
about $3.00 for the first disc and $1.50 for each subsequent one.
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::Name::
Ultima Thule
::Address::
1 Conduit Street, Leicester, LE2 0JN, UK
::Phone::
+44 (0116) 2854545
::Fax::
+44 (0116) 2854555
::WWW::
<URL:http://web.ukonline.co.uk/ultimathule-audion>
::Email::
ultimathule-audion AT ukonline.co.uk
::Comments::
Ultima Thule is a store and mailorder business affiliated with
Audion Magazine and thus run by two extremely knowledgeable
gentlemen. Large A4 catalogue every year with a great deal in
it. They send out update lists regularly to active customers. You
need to subscribe (not expensive) to these if you are not an
active customer. A superb selection, covering the whole range of
progressive and new music. A little expensive compared with other
UK outlets. They take just about any form of payment and offer
various mail schemes including listen-and-return if you do not like
it and all of this internationally. If you live in the UK, next day
delivery is the norm. I often order by phone in the afternoon and
receive goods the next morning. Very highly recommended indeed.
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::Name::
Vinyl-Virus
::Address::
P.O. Box 1164, 7526 U-Weiher, Germany
::Comments::
Supposedly a source of bootlegs - I saw the address in a post
to rec.music.gdead where someone was asking for any more info on
this place.
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::Name::
Voiceprint
::Address::
P.O. Box 5, Derwentside, County Durham, UK, DH9 7HR
::Phone::
(0191) 512 1103
::Email::
Rob AT vprint.demon.co.uk
::Comments::
Mainly new Canterbury-related releases. Including stuff by Daevid
Allen, Robert Wyatt, Jakko Jakszyk and Rick Biddulph.
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The Frederic Dannen quote at the top of this file is from a very
interesting book about the music industry and the "Powers broker and
fast money inside the music business" and the greed and ambition and
occasional mob and other illegal connections of the industry. It's
pretty ugly stuff and worth reading for a better understanding of
why the artist is often the victim of the industry. - Malcolm Humes
Phil Kime
The following people have contributed to making this file what it
is:
Malcolm Humes (mal AT emf.net)
Peter Thelen (ptlk AT netcom.com)
Minsu Jang (cats AT ailab1.sogang.ac.kr)
Guido Hogen (ghogen AT zeus.informatik.rwth-aachen.de)
Marshall Wood (marshall AT emavp04.webo.dg.com)
Alain Lachampalle (al AT hexacom.com)
Oliviero Ortolani (ortolani AT student.msu.edu)
Chris Moon (camoon AT herbie.unl.edu)
Mike Borella (cathmike AT xnet.com)
Phil Kime (Philip AT kime.org.uk)
Aymeric Leroy (bigbang AT alpes-net.fr)
Geoff Burton (Geoff.Burton AT mbmmllab.demon.co.uk)
Markus Derrer (derrer AT mb.sympatico.ca)
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Progressive Music Publications Listing
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a good idea to enclose an IRC (International Reply Coupon) or two to
assure that it is easy for them to respond with subscription info and
maybe sample issues. It is probably fair to enclose a return address
label too, if it is not hard for you to do so. It is a good idea to
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To prevent any misunderstandings we advise you to confirm
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listed here. Addresses and prices are subject to unexpected changes
and it is highly likely that some of these publications no longer
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listed here please inform the FAQ maintainer.
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European Paper Sizes (As Shown In `Format' Field)
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Common paper sizes employed in Europe and Japan. Many of the listings
use this format because the basic list was done in France. In some
cases the entry may be approximated with publications from the US
or other areas not using the European paper standard sizes.
A3 = 11.7" x 16.5" (roughly equivalent to US standard 11"x17")
A4 = 8.3"x 11.7" (roughly equivalent to US 8"x11" standard)
A5 = 5.8" x 8.3"
B4 = 10.1" x 14.3"
B5 = 7.2 = x 10.1"
B6 = 5.1" x 7.2"
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Non-Periodical Publications
===========================
This section covers a few books or any other single publications
concerning progressive music. Also listed are a few well known
publications on some "core" figures. Lists of magazines, fanzines,
newsletters etc. follow.
::Title::
Rocking the Classics
::Author::
Edward Macan
::Publisher::
Oxford University Press
::Year::
1997
::ISBN::
ISBN 0-19-509887-0
ISBN 0-19-5098888-9 (pbk.)
::Comments::
New 290-page book about progressive rock.
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::Title::
The Billboard Guide to Progressive Music
::Author::
Bradley Smith
::Publisher::
Billboard
::Year::
1997
::ISBN::
0-8230-7665-2
::Comments::
It covers only the most progressive recordings of the groups
it details and as such isn't a discography as much as it is a
buyers guide, but then no one wants a long list of stuff except a
completist. Its features include a prog overview, explanations of
different styles, addresses for record distributors and labels. Very
good descriptions of the music (even the cover art). Misses out on a
few groups: no evidence for e.g. of Dead Can Dance, After Crying,
Art Zoyd. Covers about 330 recordings in detail and as many again
in an appendix in the back.
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::Title::
"Uncle Joe's Guide to Progressive Rock"
::Comments::
A somewhat one dimensional, but fairly informative guide to the
histories of Pink Floyd, Yes, Genesis, The Moody Blues and ELP.
Not very well written.
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::Title::
"La Discographie du Rock Francais"
::Comments::
La Discographie du Rock Francais is a very good survey of all
progressive music in our country. In spite of the title, 95% of
the survey is indeed progressive (including Jazz rock, Zeuhl and
some free rock). Musea mention they will soon issue a new edition,
more complete. The previous one is very good and in both in French
and English. The authors are Francis Grosse and Bernard Gueffier.
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::Title::
"Il Retorno del Pop Italiano" ("The Return of Italian Pop")
::Author::
Paolo Barotto
::Publisher::
Vinyl Magic
::ISBN::
8-016158-220124
::Comments::
Despite the title, a good guide to Italian progressive
rock. Written in Italian. There is a 1996 English edition.
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::Title::
The Tapestry of Delights: The Comprehensive Guide to British
Music of the Beat, RB, Psychedelic and Progressive Eras 1963-1976
::Author::
Vernon Joynson
::Publisher::
Borderline, PO Box 3819, Glasgow, G43 1UT, UK
::ISBN::
1-899855-00-9
::Comments::
A pretty comprehensive book, which covers all except the most
obscure British prog bands of the era.
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::Title::
Fuzz, Acid and Flowers: A Comprehensive Guide to American Garage,
Psychedelic and Hippie Rock (1964-1975)
::Author::
Vernon Joynson
::Publisher::
Borderline, PO Box 3819, Glasgow, G43 1UT, UK
::ISBN::
0-9512875-8-3
::Comments::
Another comprehensive book indeed, but the prog content is less
than the above.
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::Title::
Cosmic Dreams at Play: A Guide to German Progressive and Electronic
Rock
::Author::
Dag Erik Asbjornsen
::Publisher::
Borderline, PO Box 3819, Glasgow, G43 1UT, UK
::ISBN::
1-899855-01-7
::Comments::
A good Krautrock book. Pretty comprehensive in terms of coverage.
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::Title::
"Brian Eno: His Music and the Vertical Colour of Sound"
::Author::
Eric Tamm
::Publisher::
Faber and Faber
::Year::
1989
::ISBN::
0-571-12958-7
::Comments::
Very informative including discographies. Some people find Tamm's
style annoying. About $13 in the US and £15 in the UK.
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::Title::
"Robert Fripp: From King Crimson to Guitar Craft"
::Author::
Eric Tamm
::Publisher::
Faber and Faber
::Year::
1990
::ISBN::
0-571-12912-9
::Comments::
Much better Tamm effort with interesting descriptions of his
experiences on a guitar craft course from the days when Fripp
still used to teach them. Good history of Crimson. Recommended
although still rather poorly written. About $13 in the US and
£15 in the UK.
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::Title::
"Wrong Movements: A Robert Wyatt History"
::Author::
Michael King
::Publisher::
SAF Publishing
::Year::
1994
::ISBN::
0-946719-101-1
::Comments::
A very good book concerning a great man. The book is largely a
list of just about every live appearance the man has made and
with whom. The list of "whos" is astounding. Some nice quotes and
historical material. Highly recommended. £14.95 in the UK. No
idea about the US.
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::Title::
"File Under Popular: Theoretical and Critical Writings on Music"
::Author::
Chris Cutler
::Publisher::
November Books (UK)/Autonomedia (US)
::Year::
1985 (reprinted 1991 and 1993)
::ISBN::
0-936756-34-9 (pbk)
::Comments::
Chris Cutler's perspective on the meaning of the word
"progressive". Concentrates on what he perceives to be central
radical musicians of our time. This is mainly involved with The
Residents, Sun Ra and Henry Cow.
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::Title::
KRAUTROCKSAMPLER: One Head's Guide to the Great Kosmiche Musik-1968
Onwards
::Author::
Julian Cope
::Publisher::
Head Heritage
::Year::
1995
::ISBN::
0-9526719-1-3
::Comments::
Despite its many flaws, this first edition (yes, a second one
is in the works) works because of Cope's obvious love for the
music. There are several inexcusable omissions (hopefully to be
corrected in the coming edition) and the overall organization
leaves something to be desired. This is, however, a great place
for the uninnitiated to start, and will be of interest to the
mid-level Krautrock fan. Krautrock fans of great experience will
probably find nothing of value here.
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Periodical Publications
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BELGIUM
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::Publication::
Bang
::Editor/Contact::
Michel Kirby
::Address::
Boulevard Amspach, 165, 1000 Bruxelles, Belgium
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Various
::Language::
Belgian (French)
::Format::
A4 26pp BW
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UNITED KINGDOM
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::Publication::
Audion
::Editor/Contact::
Steve and Alan Freeman
::Address::
Audion P.O. Box 225, Leicester, LE2 1DX, UK
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Just about everything. Specialist articles. Lots of reviews.
::Language::
English
::Format::
A4, gloss colour covers, BW inside 40+ pp.
::Subscription Rates::
For 4 issues (prices in pounds sterling. Credit cards accepted by
phone): UK 9.60, Europe and World (surface) 11.00, Europe (air)
11.40, Americas/Africa/Middle East (air) 14.00, Australasia/Far
East (air) 16.00
::Comments::
Superb magazine run by very experienced people. Generally costs
around 2 sterling an issue. Issues come out approx quarterly. Back
issues are available (#1 -- #10 are not available any more)
(as of 20/10/95, Audion is on issue #32). There are also some
supplements on various detailed topics. See FAQ 6 entry for Ultima
Thule for how to order direct.
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::Publication::
Facelift
::Editor/Contact::
Phil Howitt
::Address::
39, Nicolas Road, Manchester, M21 1LG
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Canterbury progressive
::Language::
English
::Format::
Fanzine A5 40 pp. BW
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::Publication::
Feedback Fanzine
::Editor/Contact::
Kevin Rowland
::Email::
feedbackfanzine AT hotmail.com
::Address::
Oakwell, 4 The Orchard, Crofton, Wakefield, West Yorks, WF4 1JG
::Phone::
+44(0)1924 862321
::Language::
English
::Comments::
Feedback is the newsletter of Mensa's Rock Special Interest
Group. There is a focus on all forms of rock, including
progressive. Kevin is currently working on issue 83 and 82
included interviews with Peter Nicholls, Neal Morse and Nick
D'Virgilio and was 144 pages long. Although the magazine is only
available to members of Mensa worldwide, it does promote prog
in a very positive manner. The mag comes out every 6/8 weeks,
and is always over 100 pages in length.
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::Publication::
Freak Beat
::Editor/Contact::
Richard Allen
::Address::
"Moon willow", 23 Fieldway, Chalfont St Peter, Gerrards Cross,
Buck, SL9 9SG
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive
::Language::
English
::Format::
A5 BW
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::Publication::
APOCALYPSO
::Editor/Contact::
Gerry Pratt
::Address::
APOCALYPSO, PO BOX 416, Newcastle, Staffs, ST5 5BF
::Email::
cca13 AT cc.keele.ac.uk
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Captain Beefheart Related Music (Collecting bias)
::Language::
English
::Format::
Fanzine A5 24-52 pp. BW
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::Publication::
A Little Angry
::Editor/Contact::
Duncan Harris
::Address::
2st Mary's Park Road, Portishead, Bristol, B20 8QN
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Neo-progressive
::Language::
English
::Format::
Fanzine A5 50pp BW
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::Publication::
The Organ
::Address::
PO Box 790, London, E17 5RF
::Language::
English
::Subscription Rates::
$5/£1 per issue. #2 per issue in Europe
::Comments::
"On the cutting edge of anarchic prog journalism." Issue 30 had
IQ, Frog, Camel, FInal Conflict and the mag is organizing an Enid
reunion.
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::Publication::
Ork Alarm!
::Editor/Contact::
Paul Mummery
::Address::
Ork Alarm!, P.O.Box 419, ERITH, Kent DA8 1TE, UK
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Magma and Zeuhl
::Subscription Rates::
£8 for 5 issues
::Comments::
Occasional bulletin for non-French speaking Magma and zeuhl
enthusiasts. Vander is a subscriber. Paul says it might stop
after the next issue (#25).
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::Publication::
Ptolemic Terrascope
::Address::
58 West End, Melkshire, SN12 6HJ
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Psychedelic, progressive, underground musics
::Language::
English
::Subscription Rates::
$24 for 4 issues
::Comments::
One issue I saw had an interview with Wyatt and part 2 of one with
Richard Sinclair (Caravan, Camel, Hatfield the north) and they seem
to cover a lot of the Canterbury UK scene. The next issue covered
more obscure stuff I mostly wasn't too familiar with. Each issue
comes with a 7" EP. Subscription > is $24 for 4 issues, but you
have to send an International Money order which costs a few more
bucks. But I can find them occasionally at Tower Records or another
local store.
They have a bit of a speciality of tracking down people from
forgotten bands for interviews (the last issue had one on Silver
Apples). They cover a huge variety of stuff (whatever the writers
like, really), which includes psych, prog and folk but also garage
and plain wierdness. It's actually published by Phil McMullen, not
Nick Saloman of the Bevis Frond, although the latter was responsible
for its beginning and is still involved.
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::Publication::
Sequences
::Address::
3 Copseland, Claverton Down, Bath, Avon, BA2 6EA
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Electronic music
::Language::
English
::Format::
Electronic magazine on cassettes done in radio style
::Subscription Rates::
Each: £4 (UK), £4.50 (Europe), £5.00 (Elsewhere) 4 volumes: £15
(UK), £17 (Europe), £19 (Elsewhere)
::Comments::
Prices include P and P. Recorded on chrome, dolby 90 minutes
cassettes from DAT master. Eurocheques accepted payable in
sterling. Payable to "Sequences".
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CANADA
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::Publicatiob::
Cyclone Rock Progressif
::Address::
8750 boul. Mathieu, Charlesbourg, Québec, G1G 3M5
::Phone::
(418) 626-2515
::Fax::
(418) 626-0353
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive
::Language::
French
::Format::
A4 40pp BW (glossy cover)
::Subscription Rates::
1-year subscription costs $13 (Can), $15 (USA) or $20 (Europe)
::Comments::
Current issue is #4 with interviews with new Québec bands
Parallel, Kaos Moon and Indiscipline, as well as many CD reviews.
Also contains Parallel, Kaos Moon and Yes concert reviews. It
sells for $2.50 in most newsstands in the Montreal, Québec,
Trois-Rivieres and Sherbrooke region as well as some places
in Ottawa. We're finishing #5 which contains interviews with
Anekdoten, Discipline, Citizen Cain, Cyan and Steve Howe.
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FRANCE
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::Publication::
Acid Dragon
::Editor/Contact::
Thierry Sportouche
::Address::
20 rue Ferrandiere, 69002 Lyon
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive
::Language::
French/English
::Format::
A5 20pp BW
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::Publication::
Big Bang (Magazine de Musiques Progressives)
::Editor/Contact::
Aymeric Leroy
::Address::
BIG BANG, 17 avenue de la Monta, 38120 St. Egreve
::Phone::
+33 4 76 58 02 90
::Fax::
+33 4 76 58 02 90
::Email::
bigbang AT alpes-net.fr
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.alpes-net.fr/~bigbang/bigbang.html>
::Scope/Musical Domain::
progressive
::Language::
French
::Format::
A4, 50pp, six time yearly
::Subscription Rates::
1 year/6 issues: 210 francs (France/Europe). 240 francs (rest of
the world)
::Comments::
Covers mainstream progressive as well as related
genres. Comprehensive reviews with interviews, retrospective
articles with complete biographies and discographies, gig reviews,
6-8 pages of news and mini-reviews.
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::Publication::
Harmonie
::Editor/Contact::
Jean-Claude Granjeon
::Address::
15 Ave Du Bearn, 33127 Martignas-Sur-Jalle
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive
::Language::
French
::Format::
"Big and gorgeous"
::Subscription Rates::
FF100 per 3 issues
::Comments::
Highly regarded prog zine that covers new releases and reissues.
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::Publication::
Crystal Lake
::Editor/Contact::
Crystal Lake
::Address::
BP 177, 75224 Paris
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive, jazz, electronic
::Language::
French
::Format::
A5 50pp BW
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::Publication::
Dyadique
::Address::
113 rue Pelleport, 33000 Bordeaux
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Electronic, industrial, and more
::Language::
French
::Format::
Newsletter, A5, BW10pp
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::Publication::
Musea Magazine
::Address::
68 La Tinchotte, 57117 Retonfey
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive
::Language::
French
::Format::
A5 40pp BW+color
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::Publication::
Oniric magazine
::Editor/Contact::
Cyril Pelletey
::Address::
1 rue Goya, 13870 Rognonas
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive, electronic, new-age
::Language::
French
::Format::
A4 14pp BW
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::Publication::
Operation Cocktail Rock Progressif
::Address::
BP 2451, 38034 Grenoble Cedex 2
::Comments::
A french prog rock appreciation and contact society. Newsletter
with goings on of bands all over the world.
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::Publication::
PRESTO
::Address::
10, place A. Tacq, 59000 Lille
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Avant-garde, many uncommon styles
::Language::
French
::Format::
Mag, ~100pp A4 BW
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::Publication::
The Rhythm and the Reason
::Address::
1 Rue du 4 Septembre, 13170 Les Pennes Mirabeau
::Language::
French
::Subscription Rates::
FF40 per 2 issues in Europe, FF50 outside Europe
::Comments::
Discusses prog rock's place in society as well as reviews and info.
Includes info on music distribution, large vs. small labels,
and the nature of collecting things
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GERMANY
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::Publication::
Canterbury Nachrichten
::Editor/Contact::
c/o Manfred Bress
::Address::
Nikolaistrasse 90, D-4100 Duisburg 1
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Devoted to the Canterbury scene.
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::Publication::
Carpe Diem
::Editor/Contact::
Tim Stecher
::Address::
Brandenburger Str. 4, 63329 Engelsbach
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive
::Language::
German (some interviews in French or English)
::Format::
A4 50pp BW
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::Publication::
Empire
::Editor/Contact::
Michael Baecker
::Address::
Im Talchen 10, 67700 NIEDERKIRCHEN
::Phone::
+6363 5717
::Fax::
+6363 1085
::Scope::
Progressive
::Language::
German
::Format::
A5 BW
::Frequency::
Issued monthly
::Comments::
Michael, besides publishing this fine magazine, also runs the
InsideOut MailOrder at the same address, and not to mention last,
organises some progressive rock events / concerts / parties
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::Publication::
Fachblatt
::Editor/Contact::
Horst Stachelhaus
::Address::
Falltorstr. 13-15, 5060 Bergish Gladbach 1, Stachelhaus
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive
::Language::
German
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::Publication::
Sophisticated Rock Magazine
::Editor/Contact::
Ulrich Lill
::Address::
Banaterstrasse 27, 4100 Duisbourg 18
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive
::Format::
A4 20pp BW
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ITALY
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::Publication::
['mju:zik]
::Editor/Contact::
Camicie Rosse
::Address::
C.P. 50, 41050 S.Vito (MO)
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive Rock and Alternative
::Language::
Two Editions: One in Italian, the other in English
::Format::
Magazine: A4, 84 pages in full colour
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.mjuzik.it/>
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::Publication::
Musiche
::Editor/Contact::
Allessandro
::Address::
C.P. n.3109, 1-40131 Bologna
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive/modern music
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::Publication::
Arlequins
::Editor/Contact::
Riccardo Maranghi
::Address::
C.P. 221, 50019 SESTO F.NO
::Phone::
+39 55 8729811
::Fax::
+39 55 8729811
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive
::Language::
Italian (proposed), Spanish (castillano)
::Format::
A5 60pp BW
::Subscription Rates::
Italy 23,000-30,000 Liras (slow-fast mail), contact for abroad
::Comments::
Concentrates on Italian scene but includes many new bands. Lots
of news and reviews of demos. A list of music shops in Italy and
Spain where to find them is available. Quarterly
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::Publication::
Melodie Dissonance
::Editor/Contact::
Stefano Covili
::Address::
Via Luigi Riccoboni 9, 41100 Modena
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive, esp. Italian prog
::Language::
Italian
::Format::
A4, 60pp, BW
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::Publication::
Flash Europa
::Editor/Contact::
Paola Ceci
::Address::
Via Messina 46, 00198 Roma
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Hard rock w/prog page
::Language::
Italian
::Format::
A4 color
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::Publication::
Freak out
::Editor/Contact::
Alex Colasanto
::Address::
Via Pasanti 212, 84018 Scafati (SA)
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive
::Language::
Italian
::Format::
Fanzine, A5, 50pp BW
::Subscription Rates::
12000 Lira per 4 issues
::Comments::
Anything non-mainstream is a go, esp. prog rock. Naturally,
concetrating on Italian bands.
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::Publication::
Paperlate
::Editor/Contact::
Ezio Candrini
::Address::
Paperlate, P.O.Box 8, 20090 Aeroporto Milano Linate, Italy
::Email::
ezio.candrini AT gpa.it
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.paperlate.gpa.it/>
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive Rock, Old and New
::Language::
Italian (with English section)
::Format::
A5 40pp BW
::Comments::
Paperlate started in 1984 and is issued 3 times a year. Paperlate
News is a new publication for all the Paperlate readers: it's a
newsletter issued every 45 days, with all the fresh prog news and
some previews from the forthcoming regular magazine. Last issue
was number 38 (August 97).
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::Publications::
The Noisy Room
::Editor/Contact::
Marco Olivotto
::Address::
16 Via dell'Abetone, 38068 Rovereto (TN)
::Email::
olivotto AT itnvax.cineca.it
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Mostly progressive/electronics, with occasional
diversions. Material to be reviewed is always welcome!
::Language::
English/Italian (TWO editions)
::Format::
A4 6pp BW
::Subscription Rates::
One SASE or IRC per issue
::Frequency::
Four issues per year
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::Publication::
Tommy
::Editor/Contact::
Mauro Missana
::Address::
Via Umberto I,146, 33034 Fagagna (Udine)
::Email::
tommy19 AT mailcity.com
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.bnpages.com/education/tommycharts/>
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Avant-garde
::Language::
Italian
::Format::
A4 40pp BW
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JAPAN
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::Publication::
Marquee
::Address::
404 Sy Blg, 3-15-18 Shimo Ochiai, Shijuku, Tokyo 161
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive
::Language::
Japanese
::Format::
A4 100pp BW+color
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KOREA
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::Publication::
Art Rock
::Editor/Contact::
Si-Wan Seong
::Address::
#203 Dong-Woo bldg., 503-13 Changchun-dong, Seoul 120 - 180
::Phone::
(02) 325-3544
::Fax::
(02) 338-3122
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive
::Language::
Korean
::Format::
A4 100+pp BW+color
::Subscription Rates::
$50/year (Asia), $70/year (other countries)
::Frequency::
Four times per year
::Comments::
Art Rock magazine is also the host of Si-Wan records, which
recently has reissued many Italian and Spanish prog rarities on
CD and LP. These include Tarantula, Los Canarios, Crack, Bloque,
Picchio Dal Pozzo, Alphataurus, Celeste, and many many more.
Art Rock magazine has covered italian progressive rock scene in
detail through 4 issues. All articles are written in Korean.
I have just received a copy of issue 7 of Art Rock and am very
impressed. Unfortunately, I don't read Korean but this is a really
amazing magazine. The issue I have is huge (200+ pages), with
hundreds of photos of album sleeves (most in full colour). This
issue is a `British Rock Special' with histories and discographies
of Yes, ELP, Gentle Giant, Van der Graaf Generator etc. There's also
hundreds of reviews, rare concert photos, an article on Roger Dean's
art with loads of full colour pictures, articles on famous British
labels (Harvest etc.). It even has sections on progressive Jazz
anf Classical. All in all, quite the best prog magazine I've seen
... such a shame you don't get this sort of thing over here. Highly
recommended, especially if you speak Korean ... actually, it's
almost learning it just to read this!
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::Publication::
Music People
::Address::
Room 518 Kyung-Do B/O, 44-14 Yoido dong, yongdeung Po-Ku, Seoul,
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Hard rock, Progressive
::Language::
Korean
::Format::
A4 100pp BW+color
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::Publication::
Roka
::Editor/Contact::
Dainis Bushmanis
::Address::
PO Box 599, Riga-47, 226047 Latvia, Republique de Lettonie
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive, Avant-garde
::Language::
Latvian?
::Format::
A5 20pp BW
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::Publication::
Background Progressive Rock Magazine
::Address::
PO Box 875, 5280 Boxtel
::Comments::
NLG 25.00 per 6 issues in Europe, NLG 30.00 outside Europe
Concentrates on reviews of albums by new acts, news and some
re-issues. Covers a wide range of progressive music.
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::Publication::
Fonorama
::Address::
PO Box 114, 31-829 Krakow 31, Poland
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive, various
::Email::
fonopr AT polbox.com
::Language::
Polish
::Format::
A4 40pp BW
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::Publication::
Sete
::Editor/Contact::
Miguel Santos
::Address::
Calcada do Galvao, Lote D- 3' esq, 1400 Lisboa
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Avant-garde
::Language::
Portugese?
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::Publication::
Proclamation, The Occasional Gentle Giant Magazine
::Editor/Contact::
Geir Hasnes
::Address::
Eidsvolls gt. 16, N-7016 Trondheim, Norway
::Email::
Geir.Hasnes AT Delab.Sintef.No
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Gentle Giant and related
::Subscription Rates::
See below
::Format::
Current status is 4 issues with 16/40/56/88 pp in b/w
::Comments::
The newsletter is professionally produced, and issued at least
twice a year. Two issues appeared in 1992, #3 in August 1993, #4 in
October 1994 (88pp). The newsletter includes news about releases
of old material on CD, bootlegs, existing audio tapes etc. There
is an in-depth questions and answers column, and general letters
from subscribers are also printed, for instance reminiscences about
concerts and comments about the available CDs. Extensive old and
new interviews with band members and detailed articles from the
70s are prioritized, along with descriptions of compositions,
albums and artwork, music analyses, sheet music transcribed in
detail, detailed discographies, bibliographies, and other pieces of
information. Promotional material are faithfully reproduced, along
with photographs of the band members then and now. Related groups
are covered in detail in each issue. >450 subscribers at present.
*Subscriptions:*
Scandinavia: 100 NKr to Classica forlag AS, Ragnhilds gt. 10,
N-7030 Trondheim, Norge. Postal giro account 0824 01 97538
British Isles: £10 in cash or cheque or IMO to Pete Gray, 2 Coniston
Close, Stukeley Meadows, Huntingdon, Cambs PE18 6UD, England
Europe: 25 DM in cash or cheque or IMO to Gerhard Zimmermann,
Otmarstr. 26, D-90 439 Nrnberg 70, Germany. Equival. paper money
in your national currency is OK
USA, Canada: US $15 in cash or cheque or IMO to David Armas, 3730
Stockbridge Ave., Los Angeles, CA. 90032, USA
The rest of the world: US $20 in cash or cheque or IMO to our US
distributor
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Prognetik
::Address::
Stalsberggata 20, 2010 Strommen, Norway
::Email::
bjorn.lynne AT disco.oslohd.no
::Language::
Scandinavian (Norwegian/Swedish/Danish)
::Format::
A5, Black/White, Varying between 35-50 pages
::Frequency::
Bi-monthly.
::Comments::
Will send a free trial issue for SAE/IRC. ProgNetik Magazine mostly
contains reviews of new progressive and symphonic rock releases
worldwide. Also; competitions, essays and in most issues there is a
'special' feature on one band, often including interviews etc. For
example, issue #3 contains a Jadis Special with the story of the
band, a discussion of their music and a medium length interview
with Jadis leader Gary Chandler. And so on.. Being a Scandinavian
magazine, ProgNetik has a *slight* emphasis on the Scandinavian
prog-scene.
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::Publication::
Camera Obscura
::Editor/Contact::
c/o Mark Tucker
::Address::
1508 Faymont, Manhattan Beach, CA 90266
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i/e Magazine
::Editor/Contact::
Darren Bergstein
::Address::
2300 N. Yucca, Chandler Az 85224
::Phone::
(602) 821-1061
::Email::
iemag AT aol.com
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive, electronic
::Language::
English
::Format::
A5 40pp BW
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::Publication::
Classic Progressive Rock
::Editor/Contact::
Michael Gerard
::Address::
95 East Beaumont, Columbus, OH 43214
::Email::
102064.2322 AT compuserve.com
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Classic Progressive Rock
::Language::
English
::Format::
8 1/2" x 11" newsletter
::Subscription Rates::
$2 per year
::Comments::
I will be completing my fifth issue in July. My focus is on classic
progressive band like YES, King Crimsom, ELP, Jethro Tull, etc. I
have also covered Nektar and A local progressive band called
Madrigal. I distribute the newletter at record store in Columbus
only, but I take subscriptions (rates above).
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Music Uncovered
::Editor/Contact::
Louis Hesselt-van-Dinter
::Address::
22833 Bothell-Everett Hwy., Suite 1121 Bothell, WA 98021
::Phone::
206-487-0909
::Fax::
206-402-7316
::Email::
muman AT eskimo.com
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive
::Language::
English
::Format::
Newsletter A4 4pp BW
::Subscription Rates::
$4/year (US) $6/year (outside US)
::Frequency::
Quarterly
::Comments::
Adventurous and excellent newsletter
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Exposé
::Editor/Contact::
Peter Thelen
::Address::
6167 Jarvis Ave #150, Newark, CA
::Email::
ptlk AT netcom.com
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/1831/expo-nl.html>
::Phone::
(510) 791-6186
::Scope/Musical Domain::
"Exploring the Boundaries of Rock"
::Language::
English
::Format::
Newsletter, A4, 60pp+, BW
::Subscription Rates::
Price format is (Single issue/4 issue subscription). USA -
($4.50/$18), please see web page for overseas and other prices.
::Frequency::
Quarterly
::Comments::
Exposé is carried by: Wayside Music, Ranjit, Musea, Of Sound Mind
(?), Sights Sounds, and occasionally Ultima Thule. Also by the
following California record store: Rhino (Claremont). It's also
carried by "Le FreeSon" in Montreal, Québec. Now also carried by:
Rush-Mor Music (Milwaukee), Vinyl Solutions (Grand Rapids), Twisted
Village (Cambridge), World Disque (Tokyo), Record Runner (Brazil)
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Synthesis
::Address::
219 Napfle St., Philadelphia PA 19111
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Electronic oriented
::Language::
English
::Subscription Rates::
$5 per 4 issues, $7 overseas.
::Comments::
Electronic oriented. Claims not to be interested in art rock
but has had info on Kit Watkins.
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Lullabye Letter
::Editor/Contact::
c/o North American Robert Wyatt Apreciation Society
::Address::
9690 NE Adolf Rd., Newberg OR 97132-7000
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Robert Wyatt
::Language::
English
::Comments::
Grass roots zine on Wyatt. Supposedly very good.
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::Publication::
Option
::Address::
2345 Westwood Blvd Suite 2, Los Angeles CA 90064
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Independent acts, including progressive artists, mostly Canterbury
and RIO
::Language::
English
::Subscription Rates::
US$15.45 per 6 issues
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::Publication::
Progression
::Editor/Contact::
John Collinge
::Address::
PO Box 7164, Lowell, MA 01852
::Scope/Musical Domain::
Progressive (mostly mainstream)
::Language::
English
::Subscription Rates::
4 issues per year. US, Puerto Rico and Canada - $18. Rest of
world - $23. Sample issues $5 for US etc., $6 for rest of world.
::Comments::
About the publication: PROGRESSION is an 80-120 page, quarterly
magazine devoted to news, reviews, interviews and features
involving progressive rock artists new and old, in the United
States and overseas. We cover the so called "mainstream"
progressive acts such as IQ, Yes, ELP, Jethro Tull Marillion,
etc. We include occasional features and reviews on more "serious"
prog artists such as Univers Zero and Richard Pinhas. And we
strive to highlight emerging talent in the progressive realm:
Echolyn, Prometheus, Ozric Tentacles, Episode, Cairo, Djam Karet,
Ancient Vision, Anglagard, Witsend, Kalaban, plus many, many
others. A typical edition of the magazine includes exclusive,
in-depth interviews with progressive rock artists (past issues have
featured the likes of Keith Emerson, Greg Lake, Jordan Rudess,
Mastermind, Änglagård, Bill Bruford, Marillion's Mark Kelly,
Nik Turner's hawkwind, etc.), plus dozens ofconcert and album
reviews, tour intineraries and information on new album and video
release. Photographs accompany the articles. Ample advertising
provides a forum for those wishing to buy and sell progressive
recordings and other items.
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::Publication::
Tone Clusters
::Editor/Contact::
Ken Egbert
::Address::
5648 Riverdale Av., Suite 105, Bronx, NY 10471
::Phone::
718 562 4982
::Language::
English
::Comments::
Ken is a former employee of Pantasia Mad Platters, and has
produced TC sporadicly for 15 or 20 YEARS!! Although thoroughly
diverse in his interests, his particular love is the Canterbury
scene, groups like Caravan, Hatfield, etc. Very knowledgeable in
the English, French, German, Italian, domestic prog scene of the
70's 80's, and continues to expose folks to new interesting
stuff. Sample copies $2.50 well worth it. You may also phone
through the Nowhere music store (see FAQ 6) at 914 962 6274 or
mail through said store at nowhere247 AT aol.com
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FromMike Borella: The basic publication list data is mostly courtsey
of Musea, via Yannick Lallement (lallemen AT ese-metz.fr or lallemen
AT loria.fr). Many thanks for their sharing this information so
that others can benefit from it. Also, Kurt Rongey, who runs the
Long Dark Music label, compiled much of the list. The comments
and information is mostly originally from him, though some of the
information was condensed or paraphrased.
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This FAQ is maintained by Phil Kime(Philip AT kime.org.uk). Comments,
questions, and criticisms are positively always welcome. This text
was taken in part from the previous versions of this FAQ, which
were maintained by Scott McMahan, and Mike Borella. The FAQs were
brought into being originally through the sterling efforts of Malcolm
Humes. Many thanks go to all of these gentlemen for their excellent
work.--------------------
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The following people have contributed to making this file what it
is:
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Jim Harkins (jharkins AT netcom.com)
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Mike Thaxton (mrthaxton AT miavx1.acs.muohio.edu)
Steve Pacenka (sp17 AT cornell.edu)
Anthony Alumkal (aalumkal AT phoenix.princeton.edu)
Gary Mosier (gary.mosier AT gsfc.nasa.gov)
Scott Anderson (sanderso AT gacvx2.gac.edu)
Clint Hyde (chyde AT bbn.com)
Etienne C. Rios (V584ERQZ AT ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu)
Ken Lang (kalang AT cbnewsk.cb.att.com)
Hobie Orris (hobie AT io.org)
Phil Zampino (zampino AT panix.com)
Alex DeWolf (a.dewolf AT tel.gte.com)
Koen Pollentier (koen.pollentier AT planetinternet.be)
Mike borella (cathmike AT xnet.com)
Phil Kime (Philip AT kime.org.uk)
As of January 29th 1996, the entries have been anonymised as in FAQ
2to avoid any legal problems that may occur since these FAQs are
now registered with the news.* hierachy. The entries are collated
from the comments of many people who have provided information on
shops all over the world. The FAQ maintainer is not responsible
for mode of expression or content in any of the comments below.
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Stores In The USA That Carry Progressive Music
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FLORIDA
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::Store::
Aron';s Records
::Address::
1150 N. Highland Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90038
::Phone::
(213) 469-4700
::Hours::
Mon. - Thur. 10am-10pm, Fri. - Sat. 10am-Midnight, Sunday 11am-8pm
::Comments::
Huge store with an excellent prog section. They have most of
the better known bands and a good selection of rarities. Almost
any prog title available on CD can be expected to be there at a
given time. I have seen: Epidaurus, Asfalto, Il Paese Dei Balocchi,
Analogy, Kerrs Pink, Labanda, Apoteosi, etc. Prices are average. The
prog section is only a small fraction of their huge inventory. They
also have used CDs. Major credit cards accepted.
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::Store::
Asylum Records
::Address::
6560 Central Avenue, St. Petersburg, Florida
::Phone::
(813) 384-1221
::Hours::
Monday - Saturday, 10 AM - 8 PM; Sunday, 12 - 5 PM
::Comments::
Huge store specializing in imports and independent labels. Although
they are not a specialized prog store, by the nature of the
labels they carry they stock *a lot* of progressive titles. Their
prices are very reasonable (lower than big chain stores). They
sell only CDs and have a large used CD section where you can get
used imports for ~ $12.00 and used US releases for ~ $8.00. I
always walk out happy when I go there. I do a lot of traveling,
and so far this is my favorite store!
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::Store::
Sound Exchange
::Address::
14610 Livingston Ave Tampa, FL/607 Brandon Blvd. W. Brandon, FL
::Phone::
813-978-9316/813-651-9316
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CALIFORNIA
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::Store::
Al's Records and CDs "Selling Music by the Pound"
::Address::
6713 Comstock, Whittier, CA 90601
::Phone::
(310) 696-4345
::Fax::
As above; you have to call Al so he can activate the fax
::Comments::
Al has been involved with ProgFest for the last two years.
He knows quite a bit about progressive rock bands from the '70s and
'80s, as well as new up and coming bands. For example, this year
he helped Landberk, White Willow (who visited the store), Ars Nova,
and other ProgFest acts. If his store doesn't carry something, he
can usually get his hands on it. (Keiko, the keyboard player for
Ars Nova, has him out hunting for Goblin's first with a gatefold
cover...) Among the memorabilia are autographed photographs,
ticket stubs, album covers and posters.
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::Store::
Amoeba
::Address::
2455 Telegraph Ave, Berkeley, CA 94704
::Phone::
(510) 549-1125
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.amoebarecords.com>
::Hours::
(open 7 days a week)
::Comments::
Amoeba is located in the heart of the legendary Telegraph
Ave. section of South Berkeley. While you may find parking to be
difficult in this area, there are three stores within two blocks
that are worth visiting (see Rasputins below). Amoeba is on the
corner of Telegraph and Haste, across from Cody's Books.
The store is quite large, and boasts a section about 2/3 or the
way towards the back called `Unusual and Experimental' which tends
to include some prog, mostly RIO styled stuff, like The Muffins,
Univers Zero, Art Zoyd, Art Bears, Samla, U Totem and Cassiber.
Occasionally a somewhat less experimental or straight out fusion
band will be included in this section, like Bi Kyo Ran, Ain Soph,
or Iconoclasta. Most of the store is organized alphabetically
in two different sections; one for used CDs, the other for new.
You'll find progressive material interspersed in both of these
sections. Canterbury and most common fusion artists are well
represented, as well as the more mainstream prog bands. You'll find
small sections for the common Italian bands (PFM, Le Orme, Banco),
and in some very rare occasions you'll find an extremely hard to find
disc (Los Canarios is the rarest I've found). Very little neo-prog
is represented. The used CD section is huge, and does have prog,
but I rarely find anything exciting there (could be that the rare
stuff disappears fast). There are a number of LPs stocked, but
not very many progressive, and I've never found a rare one.
The sales staff don't seem to be very helpful in terms of prog,
and the best method to use when looking for prog in Amoeba seems
to be exhaustive search. Prices tend to be high (sometimes close
to $30 for an import). This applies to the used section as well,
as I've seen used imports go for $15.
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::Store::
Rasputin's
::Address::
2401 Telegraph Ave, Berkeley, CA 94704-2320
::Phone::
(510) 848-9004
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.rasputinmusic.com>
::Hours::
(open 7 days a week)
::Comments::
Their prices are a bit higher than they used to be. New stuff is
usually close in price to other stores (but still under corporate
store prices). I recommend everyone checking out their used section
first which is pretty big. Sometimes they take never opened stuff
and put it in the used section when sales for the item aren't too
big and give you a really good price for it.
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::Store::
Esoteric
::Address::
3413 El Camino Avenue, Sacramento
::Phone::
(510) 488-8966
::Hours::
(generally closes around 6pm)
::Comments::
Near the corner of El Camino and Watt, Esoteric sports a small
prog section of both LPs and CDs. Some of the CDs are rare and
otherwise hard to find, and prices tend to be reasonable. The LP
section rarely contains anything rare. Two employees, Brian and
Jim, are local progressive experts and will be able to recommend
many artists for you. The store has a CD player hooked up for
listening, so you can check them out before buying. Esoteric will
special order, I believe.
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::Store::
Off The Record
::Address::
Hillcrest CA (suburbs of San Diego)
::Comments::
Directions -- Hillcrest - 163 South to Washington. Right on
University (first light). You want to hang a left at the first light
but it's a one way street going the other way. They're half a block
on your left, park where you can. The directions from 15 north are
much different, you're better off going too far, turning around,
taking 15 South, then following my directions :-)
Mainly used CD stores with some new CDs. They don't seem to bother
with the top 40 crap, but if you want Ozrics these are the places
to go. I've found the most stuff I wanted in the Hillcrest Off
the Record. I've bought Hawkwind, Ozrics, and Iconoclasta at
the Hillcrest OtR. None of these stores carry prog so much as
`alternative' music, alternative meaning "you'll never hear this
on the radio!". Both stores special order. New CDs are list price,
used are $8.99. I seldom walk out of the Hillcrest OtR empty-hand.
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Lou's
::Address::
Encinitas CA (suburb of San Diego)
::Comments::
Mainly used CD store with some new CDs. Bigger than both Off the
Record stores, mentioned above. New CDs are list price, used are
$8.99. I've been to Lou's twice, their discs weren't in alphabetical
order and I didn't feel like going through all their stuff. But
they do have a good rep around town as a good place to find stuff.
Its used CDs are now all in alphabetical order now. They have
a Jazz section (`New Age' like), hardcore (with Fates Warning,
but mostly satanic stuff), and pop/rock which has your Yes, Rush,
etc. Anyway, they have a great selection of bootlegs for sale ($25
single mainly), and tons of used records + tapes (a $3.99 area,
and a $.19-$1.00 section for the not so good stuff) as well.
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::Store::
Twist Shout
::Address::
300 East Almeda Avenue, Denver, Colorado, 80209
::Phone::
(303) 722-1943
::Fax::
(303) 733-8191
::Email::
patwists AT aol.com
::Comments::
Hours are 11-7 Monday-Friday, 10-6 Saturday, and 12-5 Sunday. This
shop is an independent store with a deep catalogue. Progressive
music is definitely available, but does not form the majority of
their catalogue. They are more of a full-service store. However,
the accent is most definitely on the hard-to-find, eclectic,
or otherwise noteworthy CD as opposed to a main line offering.
They have a newsletter. The current issue of the newsletter
states in part that "Twist Shout has had its best year-to-date
since we began seven years ago. We credit this to the quality of
the shopping experience our customers have when they come to our
store; atmosphere, listening stations, trade-in service, used CD's
at $7.99, in-store play, newsletter, top-25 list, deep catalogue,
special-order service and our extremely knowledgeable and helpful
employees-all these make the visit itself here as satisfying as
the music one finds." Apparently you can order over the phone or
through email.
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IOWA
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::Store::
Record Collector
::Address::
125 E. Washington Street, Iowa City, Iowa 52240
::Comments::
Operated by Kirk Walther. I have done business with Kirk for years,
and his shop has always been an interesting place. The store has
just moved to a new location, and continues to stock a healthy
supply of Krautrock, progressive folk/rock and techno titles on both
CD and LP. Artists in stock almost always include Can, Xhol, Faust
and many other classic Krautrock groups. Most new prog Spalaxes and
similar releases on other labels appear at RC regularly, and I have
also seen It's a Beautiful Day, Groundhogs, Fairport Convention and
other unusual stuff in both CD and LP formats there. It's a great
shop for Beatles and Beatles related titles also.
Kirk takes trades, has a lot of used vinyl and CDs, gets a lot of
alternative traffic, but likes prog, Krautrock and old Ravi Shankar
LPs (!) a lot. Prices: used CDs go for $7-$11 depending on rarity,
if imports, then slightly more. Vinyl prices vary considerably, based
on rarity, condition and so forth. Special orders are possible,
but still take a long time to come in. A great little shop you
need to visit if you're ever in the area.
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::Store::
Roadrunner Records
::Address::
43rd and Nicollet, Minneapolis
::Comments::
They have a separate prog section (which I must admit impressed
me). They carry Can, Camel, Beefheart, Gentle Giant, Egg, Art
Bears, Faust, The Muffins, Dr. Nerve, Art Zoyd, Univers Zero,
Matching Mole, Soft Machine, etc. etc. They have lots of imports
at very reasonable prices (usually $14-17). They're open 10-6
Monday through Saturday and 12-5 on Sunday. Most employees seem
at least moderately interested in prog. Usually, anything I
buy there receives a knowledgeable comment from the cashier.
I believe they'll special order, too.
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Spröckets
::Address::
2938 Biddle Avenue, Wyandotte, MI 48192
::Phone::
(313)284-1598
::Comments::
This storefront is run by The Music Broker Ltd., which, I
understand, has exclusive U.S. distribution rights on Ozric
Tentacles. They specialize in imports of all genres, but their
catalog has a great selection of prog and psych titles. Looking
over the list, I see CDs by Amon Düül, Arrakeen, Asgard, Atoll,
Banco, Cathedral, Edhels, Eloy, Goblin...you get the idea. Their
prices are a little on the high side ($18.95 to $21.95 for most
imports), but they occasionally have an `all imports for $11.95'
sale, which I'm anxiously awaiting since I've seen their catalog :)
They also do mail order.
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::Store::
Of Sound Mind
::Address::
8600 Foundry Street, Box 2086, Savage MD 20763
::Phone::
(301) 497-6488
::Fax::
(301) 497-6815
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Sunday 12-5, Monday-Saturday 12-9, closed Tuesday.
::Comments::
Carries 70's Prog, Neo-prog, Jazz, Fusion, Space, Electronic, World
Music, Industrial, Classical, some new-agey stuff - and that's
all. No pop, rock, country, metal, alternative, etc. Extensive
breadth of progressive material, and good depth for the big names
(Camel, Caravan, Soft Machine, Gentle Giant, Ozrics, etc.) They do
special order and mail order sales. Chris Lamka is the owner and
sole propriator and is extremely knowledgeable about prog. Domestics
run about $14-15, imports generally in the $18-22 range, used stuff
is generally $8-10 for CD's but vinyl varies all over the place
depending on quality and rarity. Trades are generally welcome. Some
cassettes and videos are also available, as are other things like
sketches and paintings. An antique center in the same mill complex
has a web page with a map and directions to the center at:
<URL:http://www.antique-cntr-savage.com/directs.html>
Excellent place to get imports - Italian, Scandanavian,
French. Well-stocked in the Canterbury classics. Lots of small,
indy labels and obscure domestic stuff. This is a store dedicated
to the progressive listener.
Of Sound Mind was known as Playing By Ear before Chris bought it
a few years ago.
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MASSACHUSETTS
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::Store::
Newbury Comics
::Address::
Multiple shops - see their Web page.
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.newbury.com>
::Comments::
The shop in Cambridge, Boston is excellent. Much outré material
including RéR and industrial/experimental. There is a free local
paper you can find on the streets in the area that contains coupons
for the store which entitles you to $3 off any disc over, I think,
$12.99. See their Web page for more details. Thay have on-line
ordering on their web page. Recommended.
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NEW JERSEY
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::Store::
Compact Disc Center
::Address::
Route 35 South, Middletown
::Hours::
10-9 M/F, 10-7 Sat, 12-5 Sun
::Comments::
This store has TONS of imports by all types of bands, but carries a
lot of prog. They had almost the entire Magma catalog, lots of Gong,
Renaissance (both lineups), all of the Gryphon CDs, Atomic Rooster,
lots of Hawkwind, etc.
Good selection, not the cheapest place around but well worth a
visit.
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::Store::
The Trading Post
::Address::
Route 1 South next to Route 18 Ramp
::Hours::
Open until 9pm weekdays, not sure about weekends
::Comments::
To each his own but I thought this place was a total waste of time.
My experience of this place is SO out of line with what's written
up in the other entry, that I can only guess that the nature of
the store has changed (drastically) since the entry was written.
Didn't see a single prog disk. The comment that they sell nothing
but used CDs is very wrong (CDs are actually only a corner of
the store) and the only reason to "spend at least an hour" there
is because you're moving trash aside to get a pile of mostly
unalphabetized CD's . Total thumbs down from me on this one.
If you go to this store be prepared to spend at least an hour
perusing through their racks. The Trading Post (2nd floor) sells
nothing but used CDs, thousands of them. They buy everything and
sell it at prices ranging from $6 - $10. I have found CDs by Carmen,
Formula 3, Vivian Stanshall, Caravan, Seventh Wave, Gracious, Dixie
Dregs, Material, Robert Musso, etc. plus bands from all over the
world that I have never heard of. Its pretty much pot luck, but
if you like to browse and are interested in checking out obscure
bands this is a good place to start.
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::Store::
Cheap Thrills
::Address::
Church Street, New Brunswick
::Comments::
Tiny hole-in-the-wall but you MIGHT find something worthwhile
there. More likely to find it on vinyl than CD, however.
Mostly an alternative type store, but has some decent prog titles,
i.e. Van Der Graaf Generator, Kevin Ayers, Amon Düül I II,
National Health. Also has a diverse used section in which I've
found Caravan, Barclay James Harvest. Only store in New Jersey that
carries Mirthrandir! (I just though that was pretty funny).
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::Store::
Princeton Record Exchange
::Address::
20 S. Tulane St., Princeton, NJ 08542
::Phone::
(609) 921-0881
::Hours::
Mon-Sat 10-8, Sun 12-6
::Comments::
One of my favorites for years. Not real big on Italian or French
progrock for some reason but a huge selection at mostly pretty good
prices.
PRE is located half a block north of Nassau Street opposite the
university library. It is a good place to look for progressive rock
in a town which is anything but progressive.
It claims to be one of the largest collectors' stores in the country
and boasts 100,000 lp's, 30,000 CD's and 10,000 tapes. They don't
tend to carry many new prog CD's, though I have seen HTM, Camel,
Carvan, and A. Phillips there, as well the more `mainstream' stuff
like Crimson, Genesis and Floyd. Depending on the day, you can find
a number of used prog CD's as there are apparently a number of local
prog-heads unloading their goods. I've seen Pinhas, Weingarten (!),
Eloy, and GG to name a few. New domestics sell for about $15. Used
CD's sell for $6-$10.
The real story here is the vinyl section. The majority of lp's sell
for an amazing $1.99; few sell for more than $6.99. I've encountered
prog gems by the likes of PFM, Acqua Fragile, McDonald and Giles (!),
Camel, Caravan (lots!), and many others. Also in the vinyl section
are a number of (unalphabetized) $.99 record bins, shoved under
the regular vinyl racks. If you don't mind spending some time on
your knees, you can find LP's by most of the mainstream prog bands.
As with any used shop, the stock will vary considerably from one time
to another. The vinyl section has a fairly quick turn-over rate, so
if you come once and are disappointed, try again in a month or two.
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NEW YORK
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::Store::
World Wide Music Video Games
::Address::
3100 Main Street, Buffalo
::Phone::
(716) 832-2636
::Comments::
Carries a LOT of imports and progressive rock. Lots of Eloy,
Camel and Nektar, among others. Call them if you need any more
info. They also do special orders on domestic and import titles.
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::Store::
Downtown Music Gallery
::Address::
211 East 5th St., New York
::Phone::
(212) 473-0043
::Comments::
The store caters to the NYC Downtown Music Scene, like the Knitting
Factory, and lots of progressive, Canterbury, experimental,
electronic and jazz releases. The man at the counter, Bruce,
is perhaps the most knowledgeable salesman I've ever met, and
certainly the friendliest. The store is jam full of music, and
they don't frown on vinyl. For records on the Recommended/Rift
label, and lots of European and Japanese prog records this is a
good source. Mail order is no problem either.
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::Store::
Nowhere
::Address::
2016 Crompond Rd., Yorktown Heights, NY 10598
::Phone::
914 962 6274
::Email::
Nowhere247 AT aol.com
::Comments::
Hrs Mon-Sa 11-6. Originally Pantasia Recorz of NYC 1974- 80,
specializing in imported other rock. Later became Mad Platters of
Yonkers Carmel NY 1980 - 95. Now renamed again in Yorktown. STILL
HAVE A GOOD QUANTITY OF VINYL PERTINENT TO THIS GROUP (as well as
40 different genres 60,000 LPs total). Not many of the serious
collectibles left, though. Mail for lists. Wants welcome. Weak
on CDs more current artists.
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PENNSYLVANIA
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::Name::
The Record Connection
::Address::
550 North Reading Road,Ephrata, PA 17522
::Phone::
717-733-1641
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.recordconnectionpa.com>
::Comments::
A record store that offers a massive inventory of over 140,000 vinyl
records, rare cds and imports, and music memorabilia. Specializes
in Prog Rock and Psychedelic. The owner is Andy Kamm.
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TEXAS
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::Name::
RPM RECORDS
::Address::
1900 Oates Drive, STE 200 Mesquite, Texas 75150
::Phone::
214-681-8441
::Fax::
214-681-9486
::Email::
rpmrec AT metronet.com
::Comments::
We have been in business for 14 years. We sell new, used, domestic
and import, CD's, LP's, Cass and Laser Videos. Our specialty is 60's
and 70's rarities, progressive and alternative. We also have a large
selection of Japanese laser discs. We have a 3,200 square ft store on
the corner of Interstate 635 and Oates Drive in Mesquite (a suburb of
Dallas). We ship out daily UPS, and accept all major credit cards.
Randy Frierson is the owner. About the only place in Dallas to get
progressive rock. Randy Frierson's tastes run from punk/alternative
to Krautrock, so these two areas are generally covered well. Also a
pretty good selection of spacey fusion, Ozric Tentacles, Porcupine
Tree, etc. Also a good selection of the big names - Gentle Giant,
Nektar, Caravan, Camel, Marillion, iQ... Occasionally gets hard
to find live recordings.
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::Name::
Vinal Edge Records
::Address::
13171 Veteran's Memorial Dr., Houston, TX 77014
::Phone::
(713)-537-2575
::Fax::
(713)-537-7228
::WWW::
<URL:http://rampages.onramp.net/~vinaledg/>
::Hours::
Mon.-Sat. 11am-9pm, and 12pm-6pm on Sun.
::Comments::
All the progressive stuff is in the Avant Garde/Noise/Experimental
section. Quite a good selection of things. I noticed multiple Area,
Art Zoyd and Nurse With Wound without really trying too hard.
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Stores Outside The USA That Carry Progressive Music
===================================================
::Name::
Acme Records
::Address::
PO Box 248, Sevenoaks, Kent, TN14 6WT, UK
::Fax::
01959 565983
::Comments::
Another good source. CDs and vinyl (mostly new), and competetively
priced, mostly psych and prog. Acme is a label as well, both for
original material and reissues, although their issues are nearly
all psych. It's connected (I'm not sure how) with the UK neo-psych
band Sundial.
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::Store::
La Boite Musicale/The Musical Box
::Address::
305 St-Joseph, Hull, PQ, J8Y 3Y6, Canada
::Phone::
(819) 772-1839
::Fax::
(819) 770-9076
::Comments::
Open every day. Sat to Wed (11 to 5) Thu, Fri (11 to 9). Offers
a selection of well over 100 prog titles that you can listen to in
the listening booth. Also offers used CD and classic Vinyl. Just
10 minutes from downtown Ottawa.
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::Store::
Dark Sides
::Address::
c/o Olivier Fromentin, 61 Route du Petit Medoc, 86800, Sevres,
Anxaumont, France
::Phone::
+33 549 452 930
::Fax::
+33 549 452 919
::Email::
dark.sides AT interpc.fr
::Comments::
Credit cards accepted. French records (LPs and SPs) by mail. 4
catalogs/year. Specializing in progressive, fusion, electronic,
psychedelic, folk, jazz, avant-garde, blues rock and so on.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
::Store::
Mellotronen
::Address::
Kaakbrinken 16, 11127, Stockholm
::Phone::
+46 8 20 00 12
::Fax::
+46 8 24 42 42
::Email::
stefan AT canit.se
::Comments::
Closest metro station is Gamla Stan. Apparently, the opening
hours are 11:00 -- 18:00. This is the shop run by Stefan Dimle,
the bassist of Landberk, and the director of the (now defunct?)
Mellotronen label (which released, among others, Änglagård's
*Hybris*). Lots of prog, some vinyl, some non-prog. Tell Stefan
that Ron Chrisley sent you ...
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
::Store::
Minus Zero Records
::Address::
2 Blenheim Crescent, London, W11 1NN, UK
::Phone::
0171 299 5424
::Comments::
Hours are Friday and Saturday only, 10 to 6. This shop
is extremely small and crowded, but has a huge selection of
progressive, psychedelic, rock, oldies, eclectic, and generally
hard-to-find CDs. It is mainly concerned with CDs that are
generally not found in main line stores like Tower Records.
Progressive music, both old and new forms a big percentage of their
catalogue. It seems to be run by people that are doing it more out
of a love for the music than as a major money making proposition.
They will do orders over the phone. Mick Dillingham, a rock
critic writing for the Ptolemaic Terrascope, works in the shop.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
::Store::
Piccadilly Records
::Address::
5/7 Brown Street, Manchester, M2 1DA, UK
::Phone::
+44 (0161) 839 8008
::Email::
j.kerfoot AT gromit.mcc.ac.uk
::WWW::
<URL:http://gromit.mcc.ac.uk/piccadilly/>
::Comments::
Not actually visited this outlet but I have had things bought for
me from there. Said things were quite obscure and had hand-written
stickers giving details of genre and links to other artists which
impressed. Knowledgeable and well-priced with a good catalogue.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
::Store::
Second Sounds
::Address::
71 Camden Road, Tunbridge Wells, Kent, UK
::Phone::
+44 (01892) 547131
::Hours::
Mon-Sat 10.00-17.30
::Comments::
Second Sounds - purveyors of all things cosmic/trip/prog - and -
second-hand! Good selection of Hawkwind/Ozrics/Gong/Yes etc, on good,
old-fashioned vinyl! Give us a ring to see what's in!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
::Store::
Track Records
::Address::
15 High Ousegate, York, YO1 2RZ, UK
::Phone::
+44 (01904) 629022 (4 lines)
::Fax::
+44 (01904) 610637
::Comments::
I have been buying CDs from them since 1989, I have never ever
been disappointed. The store is owned by Keith Howe, but its
the mail-order manager, Alan Beecroft with whom I have mostly
dealt with. What he doesn't know about progressive music isn't
worth knowing. He is extremely helpful, and is very friendly on
the phone. They keep a huge stock of CDs from the 60, 70s and 80s
and well as current titles. They also produce a catalogue from
time to time. The last major one was in two parts totalling 124
pages, and I have recently received a spring 1995 supplement of 42
pages. Excellent stuff. Track advertise in the UKs monthly Record
Collector magazine. They accept credit cards, and once on file,
just order, a swift check on your details and the goods are sent.
They also sell videos, cassettes, vinyl and keep a number of
specialist magazines
Decidedly average outlet. Reasonable amount of Cantebury related
material and not a great deal else of note. No RIO, zeuhl (one
second hand Magma *Live*) to speak of. Rather conservative.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
::Store::
Prognetik Records
::Address::
Stalsberggt 20, 2010 Strommen, Norway
::Phone::
+4763801939
::Comments::
The proprietor is Rune Schau, co-editor of Prognetik Magazine
(see FAQ 3).
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::Store::
Ultima Thule
::Address::
1 Conduit Street, Leicester, LE2 OJN, UK
::Phone::
+44 (0116) 2854545
::Fax::
+44 (0116) 2854555
::Comments::
Excellent mail-order store. Their shop is supposedly good. They
have a very large inventory of indeed and are very knowledegable
about progressive music. Particularly the German and electronic
music. International mail order. Quite expensive though, even
for the UK. They have odd opening hours.
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::Store::
Acetato Records
::Address::
c/o Pelayo, 12 bajo, Valencia, Spain
::Email::
acetato AT ctv.es
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.ctv.es/USERS/acetato/>
::Phone::
34-6-3510550 (Spanish only)
::Comments::
Excellent store specializing in prog and psych, both CD and vinyl,
including many rarities. They stock music from all over including
South America and Mexico. It is run by Jose Martin Hernandez, who
is the man behind the Lost Vinyl label (Atila, Itoiz, etc.). He
is very knowledgeable and would play stuff for you to audition. He
also runs a mail order service. His extensive catalog is free for
the asking. Address catalog requests to: Jose Martin Hernandez,
Records and CDs by Mail, Apartado 8347, 46080 Valencia, Spain.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
::Store::
Discos Melocoton
::Address::
Salud 10, Madrid, Spain
::Phone::
531-85-44
::Comments::
Great little store in the heart of Madrid (Puerta del Sol
area). They stock music from all over the world and, of course,
Spain. They stock quite a bit of prog plus other genres. Very
knowledgeable staff. The store is about equally divided between
CDs and LPs. Large section of used LPs but no used CDs. Spanish
releases are ~ $14.00 and others ~ $20.00. Recently, they
have ventured into releasing CDs under their own label (Discos
Melocoton). My favorite store in Madrid!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
::Store::
Madrid Rock
::Address::
Gran Via 25, Madrid, Spain
::Phone::
523-26-52
::Comments::
Madrid Rock is the largest chain of music stores in the Madrid
area. They carry mainly the nuts and bolts CDs that any other chain
store carries. *However*, this particular store in the Gran Via
has a whole aisle dedicated to rock from Spain, including most
of the Spanish prog groups (Bloque, Triana, Mezquita, Eduardo
Bort, Granada, Gotic, etc.) and at a relatively nice price (~
$14.00). They have the largest selection of Spanish rock CDs I
have seen anywhere in Spain. Also, this is the only store that
does not close for the siesta.
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::Store::
Pan y Musica
::Address::
C/ Ros de Olano 12, 08012, Barcelona, Spain
::Phone::
(93) 237-6568
::Fax::
(93) 415-0219
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.thesaurus.net/panymusica/>
::Comments::
The store is located close to Fontana subway station. They
have a lot of progressive stuff, specially neo-progressive (IQ,
Pendragon, Jadis, Cyan, Leviathan, Citizien Cain, Casino, Twelth
Night, Violent District, Arrakeen, Big Picture, Aragon, Pallas,
Starcastle, Clepsydra, Chandelier, etc). They also have a good list
of Spanish and Italian releases (Gotic, Iman, Asfalato, PFM, Banco,
Osanna, Le Orme, Arti+Mestieri, Eris Pluvia, Harnakis, Galadriel,
Il Volo, Metamorfosi, Seminaris, etc), among other countries and
differents styles in the prog. scene (Änglagård, Amon Düül, Atoll,
Cathedral, Coda, Collage, Curved Air, Dice, Dream Theater, Echolyn,
Eloy, The Enid, Greenslade, Henry Cow, Kayak, Machiavel, Nektar,
O Terc,o, Popol Vuh, Sagrado, Tiemko, Triumvirat, etc, etc).
They have a smaller collection of Rock, Jazz and New-Age music.
The prices range from 1800 to 3400 pts (about $14-$26). Twice a
year they print their updated catalogue (I have the last one).
The catalogue they produce is stunning. Many albums listed have
full colour reproductions of the covers and it is well typeset.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
::Store::
Records on Wheels
::Address::
32 King Street East, Dundas, Ontario, Canada
::Phone::
(905) 627-7706
::Fax::
(905) 627 7706
::Comments::
Carries Gentle Giant, UK, Eloy, King Crimson, Ozric Tentacles,
Renaissance, etc. Talk to Mike for special orders. Prices are
fairly reasonable.
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::Store::
Rock en stock
::Address::
1238 Crescent, Montreal, Québec, Canada, H3G-2A9
::Phone::
(514) 878-1648
::Fax::
(514) 878-4419
::Comments::
They have a good stock in new prog stuff and also in the classic
big names.
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::Store::
Le Free-Son
::Address::
1477 Mont-Royal east, Montreal, Québec, Canada
::Phone::
521-5159
::Hours::
Open during normal business hours, 6 days a week.
::Comments::
The only new CDs they sell are progressive rock. The rest of CDs
and LPs are second hand. They have a wide selection of progrock
CDs, including Ter reno Baldio, Minimum Vital, Isildurs Bane,
Ozrics, Banco, P.F.M., etc.. and of course the big names like
Gentle Giant, Peter Hammill, ELP, Tangerine Dream, Genesis,
etc... Le Free-Son has three CD players in store, one of them
being a 100-disc carousel and two of them are dedicated to the
customers. There are chairs at the back and people are welcome
to leisurely hear the discs before buying, using headphones. The
staff are very friendly.
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::Store::
SHOP 33
::Address::
47, cours de la Marne, 33000 BORDEAUX, France
::Phone::
56 94 51 63
::Fax::
56 92 59 85
::Comments::
Free listing. CDs from all over the world.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
::Store::
Disk Union (shinjuku shop)
::Address::
3-31-4, Shinjuku, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo, Japan
::Phone::
03-3352-2691
::Comments::
All rock music. They have more than 20 shops. Shinjuku (best),
Kichijoji, Ochanomizu and Yokohama shops have good prog collection
include avant-garde style. They also publish Arch Angel magazine
and run Archangero label. New CD is reasonable price and they have
best used prog CD collection in Japan. They accept credit card.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
::Store::
Garden Shed
::Address::
3F-A, 7-16-15, Nishi-Shinjuku, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo, Japan
::Phone::
03-5389-6721
::Fax::
03-5389-6722
::Email::
gardensh AT za2.so-net.or.jp
::Hours::
11:00-20:30
::Comments::
Symphonic prog. All prog new CD and little rare vinyl. Shop owner
is Katsuhiko Hayashi of Mugen. They are whole distributor of Made
in Japan Records CD. Also they have good collection of world wide
female vocal /folk /trad CDs.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
::Store::
GSM
::Address::
7-16-13, Nishi-Shinjuku, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo, Japan
::Phone::
03-5386-5915
::Fax::
03-5272-4708
::Hours::
14:00-19:30 (open 7 days)
::Comments::
Rare vinly shop. Especially they stock lots of European rock
LPs. They can mail order service.
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::Store::
Record Shop Urasia
::Address::
7-16-13, Nishi-Shinjuku, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo, Japan
::Phone::
03-3362-2639
::Fax::
03-3362-2639
::Email::
ohira AT be.mbn.or.jp
::WWW::
<URL:http://plaza20.mbn.or.jp/~eurasia/home.html>
::Hours::
15:00-19:30 (closed Thursday)
::Comments::
Rare vinly shop. Especially they stock lots of European rock
LPs. They have a mail order service.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
::Store::
Shinjuku Record
::Address::
shinjuku-ku, nishi-shinjuku 7-5-6, shinjuku-daikan-plaza 756,
2nd floor, Tokyo, Japan
::Phone::
03-3365-4823
::Email::
JAF02003 AT niftyserve.or.jp
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.mmjp.or.jp/shinjuku-rec/sjk>
::Hours::
11:30-19:30 (closed Monday)
::Comments::
Symphonic prog and Metal. They sell both CD and vinyl. They
are oldest prog rock record shops in Japan. They can mail order
service. They accept credit card.
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::Store::
Si-Wan Records
::Address::
Black Planet, 494 Queen St. West, Toronto, Ontario M5V 2B3, Canada
::Phone::
(416) 504-9261
::Email::
siwanrec AT idirect.com
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.si-wan.com>
::Comments::
Si-wan Records is a Korea-based label,specializing in reissuing
progressive rock and euro-rock. It also has its own stores in Seoul
and Toronto for retail sales and mail order. We sell not only Si-Wan
label cds but also sell lots of imported cds like Japanese pressing
and European pressing. We also focus on Kraut rock, Techno, Ambient
music and world pop music.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
::Store::
Vinyl Japan
::Address::
7-4-9 7-4-5, Nishi-Shnjuku, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo, Japan
::Phone::
03-3365-0910 03-5330-9141 respectively
::Hours::
12:00-21:00 (7 days)
::Comments::
Rare vinyl shop including some prog classics (King Crimson,
Genesis, Yes....)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
::Store::
World Disque
::Address::
3-1-17-102, Shimo-ochiai, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo, Japan
::Phone::
03-3954-5348
::Fax::
03-3954-9563
::Email::
marqblu AT remus.dti.ne.jp
::Hours::
13:00-20:00 (closed Tuesday)
::Comments::
All prog new and used CD/Vinyl. They are shop of Marquee
magazine. They also operate Belle Antique/Avalon label. They have
best prog new CD collection in Japan include Japanese musicians
works.
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::Store::
Music Mania (Brussels)
::Address::
Greepstraat 4, Brussels, Belgium
::Phone::
+32 (0)22175369
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.musicmaniarecords.com>
::Comments::
They offer a large selection of more alternative music, and
also have vinyl (both modern alternative music on vinyl, as
older music). The CD selection covers various non-mainstream
genres... which includes progressive music (Prog Rock, Space
Rock, Krautrock, Canterbury, Jazz-rock) (besides that, the store
also has a jazz/funk section, a metal section, etc...) The shop
doesn't have everything you would be looking for in store, but
one can find a huge collection of prog and related music there
(certainly compared to other record shops)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
::Store::
Music Mania (Gent)
::Address::
Bagattenstraat 197, Gent, 9000, Belgium
::Phone::
+32 (0)92256815
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.musicmaniarecords.com>
::Comments::
See comments for Music Mania (Brussels).
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::Store::
Music Mania (Kortrijk)
::Address::
Reynaertsstraat 10, Kortrijk, Belgium
::Phone::
+32 (0)56219489
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.musicmaniarecords.com>
::Comments::
See comments for Music Mania (Brussels).
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This FAQ is maintained by Phil Kime(Philip AT kime.org.uk). Comments,
questions, and criticisms are positively always welcome. This text
was taken in part from the previous versions of this FAQ, which
were maintained by Scott McMahan, and Mike Borella. The FAQs were
brought into being originally through the sterling efforts of Malcolm
Humes. Many thanks go to all of these gentlemen for their excellent
work.--------------------
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How many versions of Gentle Giant's
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*Free Hand*
have been on CD, and what are the differences?
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From barrett AT cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett): There have been 4
versions on CD: two from One Way Records in the USA, and two from
Terrapin Trucking, a.k.a. Road Goes On Forever (RGOF), in Great
Britain. Summary: there are large differences between the first
three versions, and the Terrapin/RGOF versions are acknowledged by
fans to be the best.
Now for the longer answer. The first CD came from One Way Records,
number CDL 57338. This disc was mastered from inferior American
master tapes and sounds very muffled. If you turn up your treble
control, the disc sounds almost normal, but overall the sound is
mediocre.
In response to complaints from fans, One Way recalled all the old
CD's from stores, sought out better master tapes, and rereleased
*Free Hand* with the SAME identification number, CDL 57338. It is
not possible to distinguish between the first and second *Free Hand*
CD's from the packaging. The only way to tell by eye is to open
the package and examine the code number stamped on the disc rim.
The old disc says "AM6/CDL 57338", and the new disc says "ESK 1 <010>
CDL 57338".
The second One Way disc has much better sound. The master tape that
One Way used, however, is a very strange one. It is not the same
tape that was used for any previous release of the album, and the
music is actually different from the original! In "Time To Kill",
Derek Schulman sings some of the lines instead of Ray Schulman;
for example, `And with no questions then, he finds his way'. In
"On Reflection", the drums come in half a verse earlier than in the
original. And worst of all, at the climax of "On Reflection", when
the full band comes crashing in, the drums are barely audible! This
CD is worth owning because it is different from any previous release,
but it is notrepresentative version of the album.
Next, Terrapin/RGOF released their first *Free Hand* disc,
identification number RGF CD 1004. It uses the correct master tapes
and has very good sound quality. I find it a little bit bass-heavy,
but it is much better than the other versions. Some fans complained
that the disc had too much hiss, and Terrapin/RGOF remastered it to
remove hiss, giving the disc a new identification number, TRUCKCD
004. Reportedly, the differences between the two Terrapin/RGOF
discs are minor. If you own only 1 *Free Hand* CD, get this one.
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questions, and criticisms are positively always welcome. This text
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were maintained by Scott McMahan, and Mike Borella. The FAQs were
brought into being originally through the sterling efforts of Malcolm
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Mailing Lists Through Email/Internet
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A mailing list is a group of users with a special interest topic
that unites them via email. Any mail sent to the list address is
"exploded" by being sent to everyone on the subscription list. The
lists can reach up to hundreds or thousands of people with mutual
interests. Lists are generally available as normal (separate mail
for each post) or digest format.
Some lists are moderated: the moderator may request that a post
be edited or may refuse to post it if the content considered off
the topic of the list or possibly even offensive. This may sound
restrictive, but in reality there are few situations where post
content is censored or edited. One example is a list where discussion
of trading bootlegs is forbidden by the management of the site that
"owns" the mailing list. There is no guarantee of "free speech"
on computer networks as there also is the implicit assumption
that anything you email or post may be read by many people. Most
people are not very concerned about this, but public discussions
of potentially illegal actions such as trading tapes, bootlegs or
otherwise is at your own risk and should probably be undertaken
with some discretion. In theory, mailing lists can reach a lot of
people who have email but cannot get Internet news. Mailing lists
tend to have less usless posts and flames because of a smaller,
more focused audience.
For solo and related acts, discussions might take place on related
lists (for example, Fish might be discussed on the Marillion list,
and Brand X on the Genesis list, Bruford, Levin and Belew on the
King Crimson list, Bruford on the Yes list, in fact Bruford on
just about any list: there is a theory, "The Bruford Connectivity
Hypothesis", that Bill Bruford can be connected to anybody in the
music business by no more than two steps, where a step is defined as
"having worked with". There is a stronger hypothesis "The Special
Bruford Connectivity Hypothesis" that extends this by saying that
the connection can be made to anyone on the planet in no more than
three steps. Ergo, Bill Bruford is the social epicentre of the
human race. Quite frightening really.
Most mailing lists have a "-request" or administrative address for
subscriptions and unsubscriptions. Save the introduction to any
list to which you subscribe or keep track of the administration
address when you want to unsubscribe. Many people post subscribe
and unsubscribe messages to the list mailer addresses, unwittingly
sending them to up to hundreds of other subscribers. Some list
administrators do not regularly read the mailing list posts or
have automated the subscription process, so use the administration
address for the appropriate requests. Listserv or Bitnet mailing
lists typically have a listserv@ address you should use instead of a
"-request" format address. Some of the smaller, digested lists use
no administrative address and all mail is sent to one address.
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There is no guarantee that these addresses are correct. What you see
below is, to the best of my knowledge, the most recent address of
the mailing list. If the address is incorrect, please let me know.
If you are a moderator of a prog mailing list, please contact me
with updates if and when your address changes.
::Artist::
Progmaestros mailing list
::Admin Address::
progmaestros-request AT arastar.com
::Moderator Address::
progmaestros-request AT arastar.com
::Comments::
This daily digest was developed as a result of the interest in Dream
Theater by musicians subscribed to the Ytsejam digest. Our goal
is to network the musicians across the world who are interested
in Progressive rock and metal music. We believe by doing this we
can share ideas, experiences and plans for our individual efforts
and thereby make it more accessible to a mainstream audience.
This music deserves to be heard by more people AND better promoted by
the industry. We hope that through our collective efforts this will
eventually happen. THE WHOLE IS GREATER THAN THE SUM OF ITS PARTS!
The progmaestros mailing list can be joined by doing the following:
Send the following e-mail to progmaestros-request AT arastar.com
Subject should be "asdf". Text should read exactly:
subscribe progmaestros firstname lastname
(replace the names with your own.) You will be added automatically!
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::Artist::
Colorado Art Rock Society (CARS)
::WWW::
http://denver.sidewalk.com/detail/2518
::Comments::
The Colorado Art Rock Society (C.A.R.S.) holds monthly meetings of
Progressive Rock fans. We meet fellow fans, listen to GREAT music,
swap CD's, eat, mingle and just relax. We meet the last Saturday
evening of each month. CD player is provided. We meet the last
Saturday of each month at 6:00pm
Meetings take place upstairs at:
Margarita Bay Club
1301 South Pearl Street
(at Louisiana)
Denver, Colorado 80210
(303) 871-0603
Take I-25 to Washington/Emerson Exit (exit 205B) Coming from the
North - Right on Washington, Right on Louisiana (Club is on the left)
Coming from the South - Left on Louisiana (Club os on the left)
We meet in the UPSTAIRS meeting room. For more detailed directions
check out the web site.
The Colorado Art Rock Society (C.A.R.S.) also has a mailing list
set up. This list will be used to send out reminders for our
monthly meetings at the Margarita Bay Club (last Saturday of each
month at 6:00 pm) in Denver. It will also be used for announcements
of Progressive music, gigs and events in the Colorado area. We also
have an archive section which includes files and web page bookmarks.
To subscribe:
<URL:http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/coloradoprog>
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::Artist::
Pendentif Aglagla general Prog mailing list
::Admin Address::
pengla-owner AT egroups.fr
::Moderator Address::
jdelcoux AT infonie.be
::WWW::
<URL:http://pengla.com/>
::Comments::
The only Frenchspeaking mailing list about Progressive Rock! If you
want to discuss about Progressive Rock in french, then visit our
web site for more informations and for subscription. It's free !!!
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::Artist::
Dream Theater
::Admin Address::
ytsejam-request AT arastar.com
::Moderator Address::
ytsejam-owner AT arastar.com
::Comments::
Ytsejam, the Dream Theater mailing list concerns itself with Dream
Theater past, present, and future. To subscribe make this the body
of your mail:
subscribe ytsejam "Your Name"
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::Artist::
Peter Gabriel
::Admin Address::
gabriel AT alpha.ufsia.ac.be
::Moderator Address::
CCS.PEERAER.G AT alpha.ufsia.ac.be (Geert Peeraer)
::Comments::
FTP archives available. Digest form available also.
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Genesis
::Admin Address::
paperlate-request AT ansto.gov.au
::Moderator Address::
mcmahan AT cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan)
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.paperlate.gpa.it/>
::Comments::
Send a message with `HELP' in the body for details on how to use
the server to subscribe. (This is *totally* automated!)
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::Artist::
Gentle Giant
::Admin Address::
owner-majordomo AT lists.uoregon.edu
::Comments::
Bob Parker runs the Gentle Giant mailing (On Reflection) list.
To receive list mail at the address from which you're sending your
mail, send a message to majordomo AT lists.uoregon.edu with the
words:
subscribe on-reflection
in the message body (no subject is necessary).
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::Name::
Gibraltar (Progressive Rock)
::Admin Address::
listman AT plato.museum.tulane.edu
::Moderator Address::
gib AT mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu (Mike Taylor)
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.progrock.net/gibraltar/gibraltar.html>
::Comments::
The list covers general and obscure Progressive Rock topics
like rec.music.progressive and has a very useful archive server.
Backissues and related files are available via anonymous ftp in the
music directories at <URL:ftp://ftp.museum.tulane.edu/gib_issues/>
There's a very outdated topical index of the issues of the digest
which is useful for finding references to specific bands in back
issues. Backissues are also available via the Gibraltar web site
and are 100% indexed and searchable. To subscribe, send mail body
of:
subscribe gibraltar "Your Name"
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::Artist::
Peter Hammill/Van Der Graaf Generator
::Admin Address::
ph7-request AT arastar.com
::Moderator Address::
ph7-owner AT arastar.com
::Comments::
The ph7 mailing list concerns itself with the music and writings of
Peter Hammill and related bands such as Van Der Graaf Generator.
Recent discussions have included comments on Random Hold, Fripp,
The Long Goodbye and Peter Hammill's two books of lyrics, poems,
and short stories. To subscribe, send a mail body of:
subscribe ph7 "Your Name"
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Hawkwind
::Admin Address::
boc-l AT spcvxa.spc.edu
::Comments::
Talk focuses around the two primary bands, but discussions have
included the Ozric Tentacles and Eloy, plus Hawkwind offshoot
bands and other `space-rock' bands.
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::Artist::
Allan Holdsworth
::Admin Address::
atavachron-request AT msuacad.morehead-st.edu
::Moderator Address::
preston AT msuacad.morehead-st.edu
::Comments::
A digested list that discusses Allan's music and session work.
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IQ
::Admin Address::
nmd AT newton.npl.co.uk
::Moderator Address::
nmd AT newton.npl.co.u
::Comments::
Also included is discussion of related bands such as Jadis,
Niadem's Ghost and the Lens, as well as to a smaller degree,
lesser known bands on the English club/prog scene.
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Jethro Tull
::Moderator Address::
vernernet AT juno.com Kevin Smith (Vern)
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.tullzine.org/talktull.htm>
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Kansas
::Admin Address::
kansas-request AT traveller.com
::Moderator Address::
rew AT crystaldata.com (Ryan Waldron)
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King Crimson, Robert Fripp and related artists
::Admin Address::
admin AT elephant-talk.com
::Moderator Address::
moderator AT elephant-talk.com (Toby Howard)
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.elephant-talk.com/>
::Comments::
This is the "Elephant Talk" digest (previously called
"Discipline"). Archives at <URL:ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/> with
discography(ies?) also.
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::Artist::
Marillion/Fish
::Admin Address::
freaks-request AT arastar.com
::Moderator Address::
freaks-owner AT arastar.com
::Comments::
The freaks mailing list is the oldest of the arastar.com: progressive
rock mailing lists. It deals with Marillion, Fish, and other related
bands. To subscribe, send mail body of:
subscribe freaks "Your Name"
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::Artist::
Steve Morse and the Dixie Dregs
::Admin Address::
blickstein AT dregs.enet.dec.COM
::Moderator Address::
blickstein AT dregs.enet.dec.COM
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::Artist::
Mike Oldfield
::Admin Address::
amarok-request AT ommadawn.cegep-heritage.qc.ca
::List Address::
amarok AT ommadawn.cegep-heritage.qc.ca
::Comments::
To subscribe send
subscribe amarok-daily
in the body of a message to the admin address
Web site at
<URL:http://www.frisbee.net.au/amarok/>
ftp archive at
<URL:ftp://ftp.frisbee.net.au/amarok/>
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::Artist::
Pink Floyd
::Admin Address::
echoserv AT meddle.org (automated server), echoes-request AT
meddle.org (manual un/subscribe)
::Moderator Address::
bear AT meddle.org
::Comments::
Basic info is at <URL:http://www.meddle.org>
To subscribe send mail to the server (echoserv AT meddle.org) with
Subscription: add echoes or Subscription: add-digest echoes
You can mail to echoes-request AT meddle.org to susbcribe manually.
Archive server has lists of rare releases, huge FAQ, interviews etc.
You can get info on how to use the server to retrieve files, reviews
of rarities discs and interviews and other info by sending mail to
the echoserv address with the text body:
help
quit
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::Artist::
Post-classical discussion
::Admin Address::
majordomo AT cs.uwp.edu
::Comments::
Send "subscribe post-classical" in the *body* of the mail or
"subscribe post-classical-digest" for the digest format. From the
admin information regarding which bands might typicallybe discussed
on the list:
Shinjuku Thief, In The Nursery, Art Zoyd, Univers Zero, Daniel
Denis, Pete Namlook, Peter Frohmader, Graeme Revell, Laibach,
Autopsia, Mynox Layh, Frame/Cut/Frame, Edgar Varese, John Cage,
Karlheinz Stockhousen, Michael Nyman, Steve Reich, Harry Partch,
Morton Feldman, Mossolov and Iannis Xenakis.
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Queensryche
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.scream.org/>
::WWW (Subscriptions)::
<URL:http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/queensryche/>
::Moderator Address::
queensryche-owner AT onelist.com (Jai Piper)
::Comments::
Now Web-based.
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::Artist::
Rush
::Admin Address::
thmleng-subscribe AT egroups.com (subscribe) thmleng-unsubscribe
AT egroups.com (unsubscribe)
::Moderator Address::
thmleng-owner AT egroups.com
::Comments::
The former Rush mailing list, The National Midnight Star, was
discontinued. Comment from the former rush-mgr on its demise is
at <URL:http://rushworld.net/nmsmirror.com/>
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::Artist::
Tangerine Dream
::Admin Address::
tadream-request AT cs.uwp.edu
::Moderator Address::
datta AT cs.uwp.edu (Dave Datta)
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David Torn
::Admin Address::
pcole AT sseyod.demon.co.uk
::Moderator Address::
pcole AT sseyod.demon.co.uk (Pete Cole)
::Comments::
Door X - the David Torn mailing list. Current membership 100,
and growing ... including DT himself! To join, e-mail pcole AT
sseyod.demon.co.uk with a subject of SUBSCRIBE DOORX
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Triumvirat
::Admin Address::
russ AT triumvirat.net
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.triumvirat.net/>
::Comments::
Related to Triumvirat, Juergen Fritz and Helmut Koellen.
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Pere Ubu
::Moderator Address::
pereubu AT projex.demon.co.uk
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.dnai.com/~obo/ubu/>
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Vangelis
::Admin Address::
direct-request AT ctsx.celtech.com
::Moderator Address::
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What's Rattlin'? (Canterbury)
::Moderator Address::
bigbang AT alpes-net.fr (Aymeric Leroy)
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.alpes-net.fr/~bigbang/calyx.html>
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Yes
::Admin Address::
nfte AT cms.uncwil.edu
::Moderator Address::
nfte AT cms.uncwil.edu
::Comments::
Yes and Anderson-Bruford-Wakeman-Howe related. Newsletter: `Notes
From The Edge'.
NFTE Server (lyrics, backissues, discography, rarities, surveys,
GIFs): Automated. For help send mail with subject line "send main
help" to yes-archive AT meiko.com
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::Artist::
John Zorn
::Admin Address::
zorn-request AT unh.edu
::Moderator Address::
mpj1 AT kepler.unh.edu
::Comments::
This list is for discussion of the composer/musician/producer
John Zorn, and everything he has been part of. (i.e. Naked City,
Praxis, Pain Killer, etc...)
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The primary FTP site for progressive music related information is:
<URL:http://www.progrock.net/pub/music/prog/>
The directories include: articles, concert reviews, discographies,
interviews, Gibraltar backissues, album reviews, and much more,
including the latest version of these FAQs.
The administrator of the site is Adam Levin and you can reach
him at alevin AT ari.net if you have comments, questions, or
submissions. Note that this is a moderated site - you cannot just
put files there.
Most of the musical discographies, lyrics, interviews and other
information can be found at:
<URL:ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/>
This site also has a number of mailing list archives and other
information but is not devoted to progressive music and has little
information about more obscure artists.
There also is an ftp site dedicated to ambient and related musics
at:
<URL:ftp://techno.stanford.edu/>
It is a repository of information about all types of ambient music,
from Eno's "pure" form to droning guitar/psych rock. It also has
a gopher server.
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Newsgroups Dedicated to Bands
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There are Usenet groups solely dedicated to particular progressive
bands. Below is a selection to give you an idea of the naming
conventions.
Dream Theater (alt.music.dream-theater)
Bela Fleck (alt.music.bela-fleck)
Peter Gabriel (alt.music.peter-gabriel)
Peter Hammill (alt.fan.peter.hammill)
Jethro Tull (alt.music.jethro-tull)
Marillion (alt.music.marillion)
Moody Blues (alt.music.moody-blues)
Phish (rec.music.phish)
Pink Floyd (alt.music.pink-floyd)
Todd Rundgren (alt.music.todd-rundgren)
Rush (alt.music.rush)
Yes (alt.music.yes)
While mentioning these bands in r.m.p is fine, long, drawn-out
discussions of their music should be kept to the appropriate
newsgroup.
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Some sites have no ftp access, or have ftp access that is limited
to local or regional sites. Fortunately, you can access many FTP
sites via email.
If you ca not FTP from your site, use one of the following
ftp-by-mail servers:
ftpmail AT decwrl.dec.com
ftpmail AT src.doc.ic.ac.uk
ftpmail AT cs.uow.edu.au
ftpmail AT grasp.insa-lyon.fr
For complete instructions, send a message reading "help" to the
server. Note that the word "help" must appear in the body of the
message, not just on the subject line.
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WWW Pages
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This section merely provides pointers to central repositories
of information wherin you will find endless numbers of other
links. Keeping lists of all relevant links is simply not possible
in a finite FAQ.
The *GEPR* (see FAQ 4 and FAQ 7) is now properly on-line at its new
home in the US. There are currently two mirrors, one in Europe and
another in the US. Choose the site nearest to you for the fastest
access.
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Home site (maintained by Fred Trafton)
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<URL:http://www.gepr.net/>
Adam Levin also currently runs the progressive music home page that
contains a lot of interesting information including links to other
places. This can be reached at:
<URL:http://www.progrock.net/>
This site also maintains a page of links to Web pages detailing many
(some quite obscure) progressive artists. You can even access music
of various lesser known bands. Rather than duplicate all the links
here, you can find them on these pages.
The premier progressive music mailing list, Gibraltar now has a
Web page:
<URL:http://www.museum.tulane.edu/pub/gibraltar/gibraltar.html>
Also, perhaps you would like to look at the Triad Radio Web pages
at URL:
<URL:http://ripco.com:8080/~saxmania/triad.html>
"Triad was a progressive, free-form, innovative radio program that
aired in Chicago on WXFM-FM between 1969 and 1977. There was a lot
of interesting music that went out over the air-waves of Triad on
WXFM-FM 105.9 in the early 70's." (from the Triad Web page).
Henry Potts now maintains the alt.music.yesFAQs online at
<URL:http://www.bondegezou.demon.co.uk/amy_faq.htm>
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iRock
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iRock is probably the most exciting prog site on the net for new
progressive music. There are two new iRock shows a week that are
listenable via audio streaming technology from VocalTec. With
their new player client, Internet Wave, one can hear excellent
progressive rock directly off the net if you have a 28.8 connection
and TCP/IP. iRock is now the first Internet Music Radio Station
licensed to play copyright music on the net by ASCAP and BMI.
Take a look and listen to iRock at:
<URL:http://www.irock.com>
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This FAQ is maintained by Phil Kime(Philip AT kime.org.uk). Comments,
questions, and criticisms are positively always welcome. This text
was taken in part from the previous versions of this FAQ, which
were maintained by Scott McMahan, and Mike Borella. The FAQs were
brought into being originally through the sterling efforts of Malcolm
Humes. Many thanks go to all of these gentlemen for their excellent
work.--------------------
Eden
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(1) Large Austrian band with folk and classical influences
(2) French duo comparable to Spring, Gracious and Bo Hansson
Fantasia
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(1) From Finland
(2) Post-Kaipa Rione Stolt Swedish band
Finch
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(1) Netherlands prog
(2) Australian hard rock
I Flashman
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(1) USA Art-rock (without the "I")
(2) Italian pop/rock band with one prog album
Full Moon
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(1) Belgian mid 70s fusion
(2) Norwegian mid 80s prog/metal
Galaxy
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(1) Prog from Switzerland
(2) USA heavy psych
Gandalf
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(1) Austrian synthesist/guitarist
(2) Psychedelic band from early 70's
Genesis
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(1) The one everyone knows
(2) Some satanic band??
(3) Argentian prog band??
Haze
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(1) Early 70s from Germany
(2) 80s UK band
Horizant(e)
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(1) Swedish late '70s (without the "e")
(2) Argentinian band
Iconoclast(a)
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(1) Mexican prog
(2) Avant-garde /industrial band (no 'a' in the name)
iQ
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(1) British neo-progressive band
(2) German hip-hop
Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come
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Avant-weird-psych-prog band from early seventies.
Victor Periano's Kingdom Come
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US spinoff of the above, more like keyboard-oriented stadium rock.
Kingdom Come
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Late eighties Zeppelin influenced metal band.
Lethe
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(1) Italian '90s band
(2) early '80s Netherlands prog
Magdelena
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(1) mid to late '80s Japanese band
(2) early '80s Spanish band
Magma
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(1) French Zeuhl band
(2) Argentian prog band
(3) Korean band
Masque
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(1) From Japan
(2) From Sweden
Nirvana
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(1) Old British band with progressive tendencies
(2) The popular US band
Now
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(1) From Belgium
(2) From US
(3) From Japan
Octopus
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(1) German mid-'70s prog
(2) British psych/prog band from 1969.
(3) US psych/blues band, one album from 1969
(4) Norwegian symphonic band, one album in 1981
Phoenix
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(1) Romanian from '73-'75
(2) UK '76-'80 commerical prog
Providence
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(1) '90s neo-prog from Japan
(2) UK from '71 folky prog
Sand
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(1) '70s German band
(2) '70s US band
Sirius
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(1) German euro symphonic style band
(2) Japanese precursor to Mr. Sirius
Shadowland
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(1) British neo-progressive
(2) something else, put out an album named *The Beauty of Escaping*
on Geffen in 1990
Solstice
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(1) Canadian band, style unknown
(2) UK band, cross between Renaissance and Marillion
Victor
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(1) '90s Canadian Rush guitarist solo project
(2) mid-'70s symphonic prog
Wild(e) Flowers
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(1) Early Canterbury progressive band
(2) Mainstream US band??
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Are there any progressive rock radio shows?
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A few. Descriptions are not by the FAQ maintainer.
::Show::
Alternative Oldies
::Location::
New Orleans Metro Area
::Station::
WTUL 91.5 FM
::Time::
Saturday, 6-8pm
::DJ::
Mike Taylor
::Comments::
Music Played: Any rock recorded 1985 or prior. Most shows
feature at least some progressive rock and often are entirely
prog and fusion. Occasionally, the show focuses on psychedelia
and blues-rock.
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Aural Moon
::Location::
Wichita, Kansas (Internet Broadcast Only)
::Station::
<URL:http://listen.to/auralmoon>
::Time::
24 hours a day/7 days a week
::DJ::
Davin Flateau, Jim Brennan
::Comments::
Since we're a broadcast, we play a wide variety of progressive
rock, including old and new. We love to play some more obscure
stuff, and guide people into some great groups they never knew
about, forgot about, or were too young to experience. We tend
to shy away from Dream Theater, its clones, and metal in general
(although there are exceptions). We add new music to our playlist
almost every day.
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iRock
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.irock.com>
::Comments::
A Web radio station ... you can download the shows and listen to
them using RealAudio Player. See bottom of FAQ 5.
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::Show::
Exposure
::Location::
Key West, Florida
::Station::
See below
::Address::
43553 Ellsworth St. Suite B, Fremont, CA 94539
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.microserve.net/vradio/vr/html/nv/exposure/exposure.html>
::Time::
Every Monday evening 9PM - Midnight
::DJ::
John Szpara
::Music Played::
General progressive rock, from the early seventies on up.
::Comments::
*Station information*
WOZN 98.7 FM Key West, Florida Sunday Evening
10PM-Midnight WPLT 93.9 FM Plattsburgh, New York Sunday
Evening around 8PM-10 WOUI 88.9 FM Chicago, Illinois
Wednesday Evening 6PM-8PM
Playlists for the previous week are posted each week on r.m.p.
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The Sheltering Sky
::Station::
WBGU, 88.1 FM
::Location::
Bowling Green, OH
::Time::
Wednesdays from 7pm to 9pm
::DJ::
Doug Maynard
::Music Played::
Broad. Anything I can get my hands on. Classic groups (Yes, ELP,
Marillion, Kansas, Crimson, Rush, Tull, Gentle Giant, etc...) as
well as newer or lesser known groups (Ozric Tentacles, Iluvatar,
Witsend). My collection is modest, but growing.
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Sleepless
::Station::
WCWM Williamsburg, VA 90.7 FM
::Time::
Sunday 10am-noon
::DJ::
Bill Maciejewski
::WWW::
<URL:http://cs.wm.edu/~wmmaci/>
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I often play King Crimson, Brian Eno, Frank Zappa, Wire, Pink
Floyd, Genesis, Discipline, David Sylvian, etc. and a lot more
obscure stuff. I tend to like wierd instrumentals a lot and
probably play a lot of things people might not consider progressive
(but I do, so I play it. Ha!). See Web page for setlists etc.
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::Show::
Watcher of the Skies
::Location::
Central Arkansas, USA
::WWW::
<URL:http://www.magic105fm.com/> or <URL:http://beakerstreet.com>
::Station::
KMJX Magic 105, 105.1FM
::Time::
Every Sunday night at 9PM for approximately 30 minutes
::DJ::
"Wil Warren" (real name: James J. Warren or JJW)
::Email::
wwarren AT beakerstreet.com
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This prerecorded program is available (live over the radio and
the internet) every Sunday evening at 9PM Central Time (USA)
in the middle of the famous Beaker Street radio show with "Clyde
Clifford." Each Watcher of the Skies segment is devoted to an
artist or subject concerning any category of progressive rock.
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Yes, there were several. Most notably, PFM released *Storia
d'un Minuto*, *Per Un Amico*, and *L'Isola di Niente* in
Italian. Manticore (I think this was Peter Sinfield's label...he
did write the lyrics for the English verison but I have also heard
ELP started it) released *Photos of Ghosts* and *The World Became
the World* with remixed instrumentation and English vocals and
titles. These partially cover the three Italian albums. *Photos of
Ghosts* is basically all of *Per Un Amico*, plus `Generale!' which is
from *Storia d'un Minuto*. *The World Became the World* is *L'Isola
di Niente* plus the title track, from *Storia d'un Minuto*. Both
of the English versions are poor pressings, and in general, people
agree that the original Italian versions are far superior, both
technically and performance-wise.
Other bands to do the same are RDM (*Contamination* is the English
version of *Contaminazione*) and Maxophone (English version has
the same title).
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Although "House of the King" was originally released on *Focus III*,
it's now available on the CD release of , *In and Out of Focus*.
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What is the Mellotron and how does it work? What are related
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From afcpeters AT aol.com (Peter Stoller): The Mellotron is a
keyboard instrument in which the sounds are produced by strips of
prerecorded analog tape dragged slowly over playback heads. Think of
it as a mechanical, analog sample-playback device. Tape `patches'
were usually of strings, choirs, flutes and such. The Beatles were
probably the first to use them, but the Mellotron was popularized by
King Crimson, the Moody Blues and Genesis. (Wakeman used them with
Yes, but they were rarely dominant. Emerson never used one.) Songs
such as Crimson's "In the Court of the Crimson King" and Genesis'
"Watcher of the Skies" are good examples of the Mellotron sound.
The Chamberlin was a similar instrument from a different
manufacturer, and Wakeman had someone build him an improved version
of the Mellotron called the Birotron. Patrick Moraz played a Vako
Orchestron, which was the same principal, but using the playback
technology employed in film projectors, rather than tape.
From rogoff AT std.teradyne.com (David Rogoff): For each key there is
a 5' length of tape (= 8sec @ 7.5''/sec). One end rests on a capstan
(rotating metal cylinder that runs the width of the whole keyboard.
On each key is a pinch roller. When you press the key down, the tape
is pressed against the capstan and starts moving. This is exactly
the same as in a cassette deck. Also under the tape (again one for
each key) is a tape playback head. So, the tape is pulled across
the head, generating the sound. If you hold the key for more than 8
seconds the sound (and the tape) just stops. When you let go of the
key, a spring pulls the tape back. This takes about a 1/8 second,
so you can't play 64th note trills on the thing. In fact, you never
want to hit the keys: you sort of push them down. The action takes
some getting used to.
Also, Each tape is 3/8" wide made up of 3 1/8" tracks for 3 different
sounds. A big lever moved the whole tape head assembly from side
to side to chose the different sounds. If you have access to a 1/2"
four track reel-to-reel you can make your own tapes pretty easily. It
just takes a long time! I've been describing the Mellotron-400,
the most common and most "portable" model.
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No, Jobson was not a member of Crimson, but he did get called in to
do overdubs on *USA*. Apparently Fripp had fired Cross by that point
and needed someone to do the overdubs. The majority of what you hear
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I do a lot of tape trading in order to find out about more obscure
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Note that this response only applies to US copyright law. As of this
writing there has not been a specific legal precedent set. In other
words, a case has not been brought before a court involving taping
of non-bootleg material. The current status of the law regarding
home taping is best summed up by Terry Carroll's Copyright FAQ at:
<URL:http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/Copyright-FAQ/top.html>
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Suppose I tape an album or a CD for a friend anyway. Is this helping
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It depends who you tape it for. If you are taping it for somone
who will buy the original if they like it, then it is basically
free advertising and can only help the artist. The other person
would not have bought it anyway if they had not heard it. However,
if you are taping it for people who will just keep the copy even if
they love it, you are hurting them. It is not a clear cut help/hurt
... it depends on the idiosyncracies of the people involved. Seeing
as prog is a minority area where artists need support (and generally
deserve it), I personally make it a policy to buy every album I hear
and like on an original format. Consider it an act of tribute. I
have even baought back catalogue material when I have tape copies
that I rarely listen to. I consider it an honour to own good music
on an original format, you may be different. Use your own discretion
but be aware that what you choose to do may well be illegal and this
FAQ is certainly not suggesting any such behaviour. Tape trading in
minority music simulates, to an extent, the existence of a decent
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From afcpeters AT aol.com (Peter Stoller): Rock In Opposition. It
was an assemblage of European progressive bands who were defining
a style "in opposition" to the English language domination of the
pop music industry. Key elements were that groups sang in their
native languages (or, in Magma's case, created their own), and
they drew much of their source material from their own national
folk, popular and classical musics, instead of using the American
blues-based model.
RIO started as the name of a festival in London organised
by Henry Cow in 1978 and featuring groups from Italy, Sweden,
France and Belgium. After the concert, they decided to formalize
the coalition. They organized tours and festivals in each others
countries. According to Henry Cow drummer/lyricist Chris Cutler,
RIO as an organization failed due to political and philosophical
differences: there is no longer an official RIO, and has not been for
some time but it succeeded and has continued to grow as a cultural
phenomenon.
The original RIO artists were Henry Cow, Samla Mammas Manna,
Univers Zero, Art Zoyd, Stormy Six, Art Bears, Aqsak Maboul, and
Etron Fou Leloublan. Associated artists include Magma, Albert
Marcoeur, ZNR, Feliu y Joan Albert, Musica Urbana, Goebbels
Harth, Kraldjursanstalten, Unrest, Work Play, The Residents,
Faust, L. Voag, Mnemonists, This Heat, Cassiber, Thinking Plague,
Haniwa Chan, and John Oswald. (There are, of course, many others.)
This information was derived from Cutler's book, "File Under Popular"
(see FAQ 3).
From Mike Borella (cathmike AT xnet.com): The term RIO is now used
as a way of describing some of the more indescribable musics created
today by artists that are influenced to some degree by the original
RIO artists. The "new" RIO influenced bands would include U Totem,
Thinking Plaugue, 5UU's, Lacrymosa, and maybe Banda Elastika. So
when someone says that a new band sound like RIO, you know that maybe
be influenced by RIO or are just weird/elcectic or just strange.
See Phil Zampino's (zampino AT squidco.com) Web site dedicated to
RIO artists and labels at:
<URL:http://www.panix.com/~zampino/rer/>
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This FAQ is maintained by Phil Kime(Philip AT kime.org.uk). Comments,
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About Progressive Music
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Are there different categories of progressive music? (Answer
contributed in part from from Mike McLatchey)
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Conventionally, yes. There are many sub-genres, and crossover
genres. Here is a brief and necessarily incomplete listing of the
genres frequently discussed on r.m.p (some text is taken from the
*GEPR* (see FAQ 5, FAQ 7 and below)).
Ambient
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As the name suggests, a form concentrating on ambience rather than
normal characteristics such as melody, harmony and rhythm.
*Examples:* Some Eno, Laraaji, much new age music.
Art Rock
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A name that is used to refer to early explorative work that had
roots in pop. Quite often a display of attitude in addition to any
musical features. It is an abused term that seems to refer as much
to appearence as to music in its more common coinage.
*Examples:* Be Bop Deluxe, early Eno, Roxy Music
Canterbury
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A region in England where a unique style originated. The region's
name has now become the label for the style of music. One of the
earliest forms recognised as progressive, Canterbury music emphasises
laconic complexity and usually sounds identifiably English. The ideas
resulting from this form of music were very original. Often quite
jazzy in a light and airy sort of way, integrating jazz influences
in unique ways.
*Examples:* Caravan, Soft Machine, Hatfield The North, National
Health
Classical Rock
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More accessibly related, bands starting with The Nice that attempted
to fuse classical music with rock structures. Often felt to be
quite pompous yet were quite successful in their time. Often a
three man format.
*Examples:* The Nice, ELP, Le Orme, Ekseption, Trace, The Trip
Electronic Progressive
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Often mis-categorized by being as "new age", much of this music was
around far before that abused term was coined. Very explorative,
this is a wide open field and is typified by the use of almost
all electronic equipment, hence the name. There is often a
concentration on sonority and texture over and above other musical
attributes. Often very spacious and ethereal. Sometimes quite darkly
powerful but not in the way that ambient industrial material tends
to be. The sorts of sounds explored tend to be within the less
extreme synthesiser range.
*Examples:* 70's Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, Steve Roach,
some Popol Vuh, later Kit Watkins, Jean-Michel Jarre
Experimental/Industrial
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Often hard core experiemental material. The fringes of music
where almost anything can happen. Almost always difficult for the
newcomer. Considerable use of noise, found objects, music concrete
and sometimes even power tools. Generally focusing on texture and
sonority to the expense of all else. A fascinating area for the
adventurous.
*Examples:* Einstürzende Neubauten, Nurse With Wound, Hafler Trio,
Main, Coil
Fusion
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Explorative jazz-rock: a fusion as the name suggests. Maybe a
little jazzier than most progressive music, but rockier than most
jazz. Quite a established and exciting genre with often virtuoso
playing.
*Examples:* Mahavishnu Orchestra, Brand X, Iceberg, Arti+Mestieri
Krautrock
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Slighltly politically uncorrect term used harmlessly to refer to
a form of usually rather strange rock originating from Germany
in the 70s. Typified by a loose, improvisational style with
a large proportion of experimentation and slightly whimsical
flavour. Often difficult to listen to, quite sinister and covertly
intellectual. Very influential in all sorts of areas even today. Some
people regard it as the precursor to industrial music proper which
is fair: there are similarities but probably as many differences. See
Chris Moon's informative Krautrock guide at:
<URL:http://www.progrock.net/prog/Misc/german>
*Examples:* Can, Amon Düül II, Faust, Xhol, Agitation Free, early
Tangerine Dream, Ash Ra Tempel
Neo-Classical Progressive
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Music that fused 20th century classical music with new rock
structures. Sometimes referred to as "chamber rock, this can be
difficult to appreciate at first as artists of this ilk were way out
on a limb and quite different. Also, it tends to be very complex,
requiring many listens to reach a fair appreciation. One of the
least understood genres about which most people are completely
oblivious yet one of the most rewarding.
*Examples:* Univers Zero, Art Zoyd, ZNR
Neo-Progressive
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Symphonic rock done in a typically simplified or more commercial
format. Often rich and melodious but without the complexity of
traditional progressive music. Mostly an 80's and 90's phenomenon.
*Examples:* Marillion, iQ, Pendragon, Twelfth Night, Aragon, Jadis,
Grey Lady Down
Progressive Folk
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A variety of music that took simple folk songs and did something
quite new with them. There were many forms of this.
*Examples:* Emtidi, Witthüser Westrupp, Malicorne, Mellow Candle
Progressive Metal
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Heavy metal that is influenced by symphonic rock or fusion. Usually
is much more complex than standard metal and emphasising virtuoso
instrumentalists.
*Examples:* Dream Theater, Fates Warning, Watchtower, Siege's Even,
Cynic, Atheist
Rock In Opposition (RIO)
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A name coined by ex-Henry Cow drummer Chris Cutler. This type of
music consistently defies categorization (except for "RIO") and is
extremely challenging and often hard to listen to. However, it is
very rewarding in the long run. The lyrical bent is often political,
especially for those bands Cutler has a hand in. Technically, bands
like Art Zoyd and Univers Zero are RIO as they subscribed to Cutlers
broad musical ethic in its original conception. However, the label
has outgrown its original political connotations and is now used
to refer to artists potraying a similar approach to the seminal
Henry Cow, the central RIO band. See Q's and A's below for a better
description of RIO. See Phil Zampino's (zampino AT squidco.com)
Web site for much information on RIO labels and artists at:
<URL:http://www.panix.com/~zampino/rer/>
*Examples:* Henry Cow, Art Bears, Samla Mammas Manna, News From
Babel, Thinking Plague, Etron Fou Leloublan etc.
Space Fusion
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A rough term given specifically to the superb band Gong for their
unique blend of jazz fusion and extended sweeping ambience. Often
very energetic and concentrating on long jams of psychadelic tinged
soloing. Generally a high level of musicianship in tight restraint to
give a clean, atmosphere of bright and effervescent fusion. "Swooshy"
is a perfect adjective.
*Examples:* Gong, Ozric Tentacles, Neo, Carpe Diem, some Djam Karet
Space Rock
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Like the above but without the jazz edge, more of a straight forward
type of space rock. Hawkwind were almost the be all and end all of
this genre and were the innovators.
*Examples:* Hawkwind, Amon Düül (the English line-up)
Symphonic Progressive
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Characterized by rich keys/synths and very melodic vocals and often
structured like a piece of classical music, arranged for an extended
rock instrumentation. Very much stretching the limits of the rock
format. If someone derides progressive music, this is almost always
the sort of thing they are talking about. You will often hear this
genre mistakenly used as a synonym for the entirety of progressive
music and called "pretentious" or "overblown". Criticisms that
completely miss the point and often belie some misguided idea that
all good music must either display a certain feature or must be
simple and "direct".
*Examples:* Yes (early), Genesis (early), Camel, Atoll, Mirthrandir,
Änglagård
Zeuhl
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One of the truly unique and little-known areas of music typified
and largely due to the incredible French band Magma. It is a term
used to refer to a particular brand of jazz fusion, sometimes with
heavy Coltrane influences but adopting a grandiosity and harmonic
language from certain classical works, particularly Stravinsky's
"Les Noces". Unlike anything else and a personal favourite of the
present FAQ maintainer. Often powerful beyond words.
*Examples:* Magma, Weidorje, Zao, Shub-Niggurath, Honeyelk, Musique
Noise
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What countries does progressive music come from?
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Just about everywhere. Most people reading r.m.p are familiar with
the famous British progressive bands, and most have at least heard of
progressive acts from France, Italy, Germany and the USA. Progressive
music is truly international though. There are progressive artists
from just about every continent, as well as from many places you
would not think of. In Europe, there are artists from Poland,
Sweden, Finland, Spain, Switzerland, The Czech Republic, Austria,
and Greece. In South America, there are quite a few notable acts from
Argentina, Brasil, and Chile. Even the Middle East is represented
with Zingale from Israel. Japan has always been very strong and in
Korea, progressive music even gets radio airplay.
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Is there a difference between "progressive" and "good"?
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Obviously. Many progressive music fans (myself included) have been
guilty at some time of either considering all the bands they like
"progressive", or defining progressive to mean music that they
consider "good". While this seems to be a human error that many of
us make, please think twice before posting to r.m.p about a band
just because you like them. For example, I would consider bands like
Deicide "progressive" in important ways: they push the boundaries
of rhythmic interplay, play very complex music with technical skill
etc., but discussions about them do not really belong on r.m.p.
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Just because an artist has released one or more progressive albums,
does that mean that everything they do is progressive?
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No. This is a common misconception. Though we call them "progressive
music artists", the artists themselves are not progressive - the
music is. Once progressive does not means always progressive. There
are many examples of bands that once made great progressive music,
but have turned to churning out worthless pop music. There seems
to be a trend from progressive music to a more accessible form
of music in many bands' histories, and unfortunately, they rarely
return to what many perceive to be their best work.
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Does lyrical content count towards progressive-ness?
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Well written lyrics can never hurt any form of music, but there are
no rules that progressive music has to have good lyrics. Many bands
that display progressive music also display extremely poor lyrics. In
the same sense, many progressive bands are instrumental. Of course,
just because a band has good lyrics, it does not automatically make
them progressive. In other words, progressive music and intelligent
lyrics have little or no obvious correlation. Another issue to
consider is progressive music and progressive politics. While
these are two different things, there is some crossover. However,
one does not necessarily imply the other.
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But didn't this form of music die in the late seventies?
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No. FAQ 8 was specifically designed to give a quick overview of some
currently active artists. Please look at it. True, bands like Yes,
ELP, and Genesis have lost most of their "progressiveness", thus
making it seem like the fan base for progressive music disappeared
around 1979. However progressive music is still extremely strong. In
the eighties it was largely underground, though many artists put
out music equally as progressive as in the seventies. Now, in the
nineties, progressive music has had a revival of sorts, as dozens of
independent labels have been signing new and exciting artists. There
are hundreds of progressive, experimental and innovative bands
currently active, recording, and/or touring. In fact, today, we have
some of the finest music in the genre being made: it is just harder
to spot and find. To combat this, look at FAQ 2, FAQ 6 and FAQ 8.
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How did rec.music.progressive start?
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Discussions of progressive music used to occasionally happen
on newsgroups like alt.rock-n-roll and rec.music.misc, and on
mailing lists like Gibraltar as well as others dedicated to specific
artist. In mid-1992, Scott McMahan started alt.music.progressiveand
gradually a number of people wandered in and started offering
reviews of new and old music in this genre and a helping hand to
new and old fans of progressive music interested in broadening
their musical horizons. With the general degeneration of the alt.*
heirachy coupled with its limited distribution, rec.music.progressive
was proposed and passed its CFV on May 2nd 1995.
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Can I talk about Yes on rec.music.progressive?
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alt.music.yes exists and is the place to discuss Yes on the
net. However, since Yes was one of the more influential progressive
bands, it only makes sense that Yes should be talked about on r.m.p.
However, not everyone can agree about the "progressiveness"
of newer Yes, and many flamewars have erupted over this issue,
and related issues. So, alt.music.yes was created. While a.m.y is
still a relatively new newsgroup (created in June, 1994), it still
is not certain whether all discussion of Yes will go to a.m.y or
not. Probably not. If you are not certain which newsgroup to post
Yes material to, here is a handy guide.
Yes that has nothing to do with prog in general -- alt.music.yes
Yes in context with some other prog band(s) -- both (r.m.p and
a.m.y)
A reference to Yes when discussing another prog band -- r.m.p
Pre-Rabin Yes -- a.m.y and maybe r.m.p (use your judgement)
Rabin-era Yes -- a.m.y
How much you hate Trevor Rabin or Yes in general -- neither
The point is that many people want to be able to discuss Yes in
detail without being flamed for liking the 80's and 90's version of
the band. Others would like to be able to state their (negative)
opinions about Yes without being flamed. Other prog fans do not
listen to Yes, and are tired of 90% of the discussion on r.m.p being
about Yes. The advantages of a.m.y include (hopefully) taking care
of these three issues. One possible disadvantage is that people who
might have developed an interest in other progressive rock bands
via Yes discussion on r.m.p may not get that chance any more. In
any case, these are tenative guidelines to follow. What you post and
where you post it is up to you. If you would like to avoid starting
flamewars and useless discussions, following these guidelines may
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I read a review on rec.music.progressive and it made the band sound
good. But when I got the album, it was awful!! What should I do?
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Nothing. People who write reviews should not be held responsible for
whether everyone reading the review agrees with them or not. Since
everyone has a different idea of what is good and what is not, take
that into consideration before buying. When reading reviews, you may
want to read as much as you can by a particular author to see if that
person's tastes seem to be close to yours. If you disagree with the
author's opinion 50% or less of the time, then you should think twice
about buying something on that person's recommendation. In general,
it is better to get a consensus of more than three opinions before
you make a purchasing decision, or even better, try to listen to the
music before buying it. While it can be very hard to find obscure
progressive music to buy, much less to listen to, you can listen to
a friend's copy first, or ask someone to tape a copy for you. I have
bought things based on minimal information (usually in the grip of
a CD frenzy at a fair with cash in my hand) and it has been truly
awful when I listened to it at home. You should expect some misses,
even ones that cost consideralbly, in such a diverse field. Actually,
since reading r.m.p and the *GEPR* (see FAQ 5, FAQ 7 and below),
my misses have become much less #frequent. r.m.p saves you money.
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There is a progressive band I really do not like, but I do not want
to post a negative review of them because some people reading the
newsgroup might like them, or the band themselves may eventually
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Post it. Negative reviews are a positive thing. Not all progressive
music is as good as the rest or even good at all. It is important
to differentiate between the excellent, good, mediocre, and poor,
especially since the average cost of a CD is $15-$20 (US) or £12-£20
(UK). While not everyone will agree with your point of view, if you
present your arguments in a non-inflammatory manner, most people will
respect you for it. The deification of some progressive artists
brings a lack of perspective that in turn hurts the fans more than
helps them. By writing a negative review, even on a progressive
"sacred cow", you may make both new and experienced listeners alike
re-assess their viewpoints, which is always good. But, of course,
this does not mean you should always write negative reviews. Be fair,
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Somebody said that people without formal musical training cannot
appreciate progressive music. I am a non-musician who really enjoys
progressive music, and I am insulted by this person's "elitist"
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Sometimes because of silly ideas about classical training and
sometimes because of valid insights. Training is neither necessary
nor sufficient for "real" appreciation, mainly because there is
no such thing as "real" appreciation. There are many aspects to
appreciate and everyone has their nuances. However, I will say
that an understanding of music can greatly aid your understanding
of a piece and I have found that, for example, an understanding
of rhythm greatly enhances my appreciation of much music. However,
I know classically trained musicians who adore Status Quo exactly
because analysis is so pointless there. Musical training cannot
hurt. There are no guideliens for this. Some people find that
an appriciation of the exact music score of a piece ruins their
naïve appreciation. I have found this on occasion: learning to
play a line you admire can spoil its mystique. This question has
no answer. Experiment for yourself.
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Many, including Kit Watkins, Allan Holdsworth, Episode, Now,
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Many and the number is growing. See FAQ 2. For example, one of the
first net mail order outlets was started by Ranjit Padmanabhan and
Ken Golden of Laser's Edge can take credit card email orders. Expect
this to become more and more common with mail order outlets putting
their catalogues on-line. There are a few reputable outlets currently
interested in this. Keep your eyes open for anouncements.
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Yes. There were 6 Genesis albums before Phil Collins took over on
lead vocals, although he did the occasional song and backing vocals
before this. Peter Gabriel was the lead vocalist from 1969 until
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The definitive place to find out about Rennaissance is Northern
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Yes. Magma's drummer (and leader) Christian Vander created the
language "Kobaïan", which is what you are hearing sung on most
Magma albums. Recently, work has gone into compiling a phrasebook
of Kobaïan worlds and their Engligh translations. You can find this
on the Magma home page at
<URL:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/8366/>
From Marcelo Spindola Bacha (dronsz AT if.ufrj.br): Kobaïan is
not exactly a Vander idea, it was based in an original project
from Klaus Blasquiz, as results of some of their studies about
representing graphically other kind of phonemas ... Kobaïan is not
really a language, it is quite incomplete, and it is always changing,
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What is "The Progressive Music Survey" that people talk about? What
is its relation to the Gibraltar Encyclopedia of Progressive
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They are the same thing. It is a huge listing of progressive bands,
with their discographies and reviews and overviews of their releases.
It was originally compiled by Dave Markfield in late 1991, but a
more recent version was put together by Mike Taylor in early 1993.
It is an A to Z dictionary of progressive music, and though it
is still incomplete, it contains info on over 1100 artists. Phil
Kime originally put it on-line and it has now moved to a new home,
maintained by Fred Trafton at:
<URL:http://www.gepr.net/>
NOTE: If you are looking for an idea of what particular bands sound
like, or are new to prog and want to get an idea of what is out
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them progressive, and many who do not. There are albums by each of
these bands that may generally be considered progressive, but even
some die-hard fans of the aformentioned groups will admit that each
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There are two Areas, the one you saw is probably the US band.
The Italian band is the progressive one. Keep in mind that there
are a handful of bands that have "namesakes". Here is a list:
Abraxas
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(1) Canterbury style band from Japan
(2) Gothic band from Italy
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(1) From Italy. One "s"
(2) '76 USA prog
(3) Guitar psych band
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(1) Australian neo-progressive band
(2) US metal band
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(1) Italian progressive fusion band
(2) US trio
Asia
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(1) UK group with Steve Howe and John Wetton
(2) Late 70s Midwest USA progressive band
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(1) The Current neo-progressive band from the US
(2) The Defunct progressive band on Syn-Phonic
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Dark
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(1) early UK 70s psych band
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Delirium
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(1) Italian progressive band
(2) Mexican progressive band
(3) Ambient/Trance duo based in Canada
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(1) Recent Italian progressive band
(2) Mexican "cyberpunk" band.
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(1) '70s Belgian band
(2) '70s New Zealand Band
Dragonfly
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(1) Hard-rock psychedelic band from LA circa 1971
(2) Swiss progressive band circa 1978
(3) UK band that put out *Almost Abandoned*
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Full Moon
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Genesis
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Lethe
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Magma
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Now
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How To Find Rare And/Or Obscure Recordings
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While much progressive music is rare and/or obscure, most newcomers
are used to finding Genesis and Yes CDs in their local shops. By
far the majority of discussed artists however are not generally
stocked by normal outlets. FAQ 6 lists some shops worldwide that
do stock the more esoteric material but generally you have to be
rather lucky to have one of these oulets near to you. If you are
serious about exploring progressive music, you simply must use mail
order. This is by far the best way of obtaining the music. Many of
the sources in FAQ 2 are reputable outlets and have been used for
many years by people who read r.m.p. Simply post and ask about an
outlet you are not sure about. Some are used regularly and have good
reputations. You will notice them being mentioned quite often. Here
is a list of some of the most well-known and trusted outlets that
people on r.m.p have had a good releationship with in the past. You
can find more information on them in FAQ 2 and FAQ 6. There are,
of course, many more reputable outlets. This is just a small sample
of outlets people have found particularly satisfactory.
Syn-phonic (Greg Walker)
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Symphonic and Yes/Genesis influenced prog, neo-prog, emphasis on
European and US prog/fusion. Some RIO and experimental.
Laser's Edge (Ken Golden)
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Most prog and fusion, including some Italian and a lot of rarer
psych. Has net access (lasercd AT aol.com).
<URL:http://www.jersey.net/~lasercd/>
Doug Larsen
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All types of prog, but mostly symphonic, 70's British prog and
Italian. Some experimental.
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Experimental, RIO, world, ambient, electronic and unclassifiable
musics (and "normal" progressive music as well). If no one else
has heard of it or it is very rare or strange, Wayside probably
carries it or at least knows about it.
ZNR (Steve Roberts)
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Rare and US material, much obscure vinyl.
Forced Exposure
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Experimental, electronic etc. <URL:http://www.forcedexposure.com/>
Ultima Thule
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Situated in the UK, has excellent catalogue and caters for most
tastes. Many special offers, the owners are very knowledgeable and
produce Audion magazine (see FAQ 3). They undertake international
orders and accept all major credit cards by phone.
GFT
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Based in the UK. They accept credit card orders by phone. Some of the
best prices in the UK and the exclusive outlet for Cyclops releases.
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Often you'd like to know more about a band or to read reviews before
you buy CDs. Here's a few places to look for reviews, info on bands,
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This is a huge project, originating from the Gibraltar mailing
list (see below) whereby reviews and discographies of thousands of
progressive, experimental and new music bands have been synthesised
and edited into a large book. It is available on the Web and is
also published periodically in hard copy form. The hard copy is
currently sold out.
The Web version can be found at its new home:
<URL:http://www.gepr.net/>
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An Internet mailing list focusing on more obscure music. Mail to
gib AT mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu to subscribe. Moderated by Mike
Taylor. Famous as it has existed for quite a few years. See FAQ
5. It now has Web pages at
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Magazines
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There are many, many prog related magazines and fanzines. FAQ 3 lists
any of them with brief descriptions. English language magazines
that most people recommend are Audion (published in the UK) and
I/E (published in the USA). All cover many forms of progressive,
electronic, ethnic, experimental, and fusion music. For a newsletter
that focuses mainly on progressive rock, there is Exposé. It is
published by John Szpara (wings AT holonet.net) and edited by
Peter Thelen (ptlk AT netcom.com). You can send them mail for more
information or mail exposure AT ix.netcom.com. For subscription
information see FAQ 3. An easy way to get copies of current and back
issues of these magazines (and others) is to get them from mail order
outlets. Some listed above (in particular, Ranjit) carry magazines.
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The Main Progressive Music Site
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Adam Levin keeps the main progressive music site that anyone with
net access can get information from. You can access via anonymous ftp
(if you do not know what anonymous ftp is, ask someone at your site)
<URL:ftp://www.progrock.net/pub/music/prog/>
or via the Web
<URL:http://www.progrock.net/>
It contains an ascii version of the *GEPR*, links to all FAQ files,
reviews, interviews, contact listings, trading lists, discographies
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Obviously. Most new resources are announced here first.
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Social Activity
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Find people with similar interests as yours and discuss music with
them. Trade tapes with people. Attend prog listening events and
concerts. Use your ears intelligently. Read FAQ 8 for a guide to
recommended current artists.
Please take the time to read the rest of the FAQ as you may well
find it informative and it will save you posting questions that are
answered therein. The entire FAQ is available via anonymous ftp to
<URL:ftp://ftp.kime.org.uk/RMP>
and on the Web at
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::Address::
5/7 Brown Street, Manchester, M2 1DA, UK
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A question is sometimes put thusly:
"I used to be into progressive music in the 70s and was a big
Yes/Crimson/ELP/etc. fan. I've heard there is a "revival" of sorts
going on. My question is, "Point me at some good contemporary
progressive music"."
This is a very important and valuable question to ask as it is the
basis of a developing taste. So, obviously it is also a valuable
question to answer. Just the sort of thing for a FAQ. Of course, this
FAQ is going to change a lot because music has an annoying habit of
being regularly released. Usually at a tempo permanently one-step
ahead of the trickle of pay into your bank. Anyway, this FAQ will
take the form of an alphabetical listing of contemporary progressive
music that it is recommend you try if you are interested in the way
things currently stand. Naturally, this list cannot be exhaustive and
will probably fall short of even being broadly representative but it
is intended to encapsulate the core of recommended new music that
people on r.m.pdiscuss. Each artist is classified by style. This
is not a hard and fast classification but has been based on the
guidelines in FAQ 4. Its purpose is to orient you around the common
colloquialisms that pervade talk about this sort of music on the
net and elsewhere. More information on these artists will also be
found in the Gibraltar Encyclopedia of Progresive Rock and related
music. The location of this is given in FAQ 5.
There are a few major flowerings of what falls under the umbrella of
progressive music today. The last few years has seen an explosion of
high quality fusion/RIO from Japan, symphonic music from Sweden, rock
from the USA and experimental/RIO from the UK and Europe. All are
areas well worth looking into. Below, you will find recommendations
for recordings from all of these areas.
Many thanks to Pete Thelen (ptlk AT netcom.com) and Steve Feigenbaum
(cuneiway AT aol.com) for much help in creating this FAQ. Thanks
also to Dan Barrett (barrett AT cs.umass.edu). Gentlemen all.
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After Dinner
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Light, airy vocals mixed with equally light music that can get
surprisingly intense at times. Japanese, but not comparable to
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*Epilog*
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Surprisingly underivative for a symphonic band in the 90s. highly
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*vemod*, *Nucleus*
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Italy
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Japan
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*Path of Dreams*
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Halloween
::Country::
France
::Style::
Rock/Symphonic
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*Merlin*
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Happy Family
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Japan
::Style::
Rock/Zeuhl
::Recommendations::
*Happy Family*
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Quite unique zeuhl rock. Reminiscent of Magma and
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Hecenia
::Country::
France
::Style::
Symphonic
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*Le Couleur De Feu*
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Iconoclasta
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Mexico
::Style::
Classic Progressive
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*De Todos Uno*
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Ie Rai Shan
::Country::
Japan
::Style::
Symphonic Prog
::Recommendations::
*Ie Rai Shan*
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Lush symphonic rock, female vocalist (Japanese).
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Kalaban
::Country::
USA
::Style::
Rock
::Recommendations::
*Resistance is Useless*
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Keneally, Mike
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USA
::Style::
Rock/Jazz/Bizarre
::Recommendations::
*Hat*
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Lacrymosa
::Country::
Japan
::Style::
Experimental/Rock/RIO
::Recommendations::
*Joy of the Wrecked Ship*
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Unique composed instrumentals. Very challenging.
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Landberk
::Country::
Sweden
::Style::
Symphonic/Rock
::Recommendations::
*Lonely Land*, *One Man Tells Another*
::Comments::
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Mastermind
::Country::
USA
::Style::
Rock/Symphonic
::Recommendations::
*Brainstorm*, *Tragic Symphony*
::Comments::
Powerful guitar driven progressive rock.
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Mind Gallery
::Country::
Canada
::Style::
Rock
::Recommendations::
*Guilty Until Proven Rich*
::Comments::
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Minimum Vital
::Country::
France
::Style::
Progressive Rock
::Recommendations::
*La Source*, *Sarabandes*
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Miriodor
::Country::
Canada
::Style::
Neo-Classical Rock/Progressive/RIO
::Recomendations::
*Third Warning*
::Comments::
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Moorefield, Virgil
::Country::
USA
::Style::
Jazz Rock/RIO/Progressive
::Recommendations::
*Distractions On The Way To The Kings Party*
::Comments::
Multi-guitar based rock with reed horn section.
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Nurse With Wound
::Country::
UK
::Style::
Experimental
::Recommendations::
*Thunder Perfect Mind*, *Rock 'n' Roll Station*
::Comments::
Premier experimentalists. Can be very difficult and powerful.
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Ozric Tentacles
::Country::
UK
::Style::
Psychedelic prog-rock
::Recommendations::
*Arborescence*, *Strangeitude*
::Comments::
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Philharmonie
::Country::
France
::Style::
Rock/?
::Recommendations::
*Les Elephants Carilloneurs*, *Nord*
::Comments::
Fripp influenced guitar trio, but better compositions than C.G.T
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Phish
::Country::
USA
::Style::
Rock/Jazz/Fusion/Humor
::Recommendations::
*Junta*, *A Picture of Nectar*
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::Artist::
Porcupine Tree
::Country::
UK
::Style::
Psychedelic Prog
::Recommendations::
*The Sky Moves Sideways*
::Comments::
Neo-psych with Pink Floyd touches.
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Solstice
::Country::
UK
::Style::
Symphonic folk-prog
::Recommendations::
*New Life*
::Comments::
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::Artist::
Thinking Plague
::Country::
USA
::Style::
RIO
::Recommendations::
*In This Life*
::Comments::
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Tipographica
::Country::
Japan
::Style::
Fusion/RIO
::Recommendations::
*Tipographica*
::Comments::
Intelligent, complex virtuosity with jazz touches. Incredible.
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::Artist::
U Totem
::Country::
USA
::Style::
RIO - extended songs
::Recommendations::
*U Totem*
::Comments::
Long, eclectic extended songs. "The closest thing to Henry Cow in
complexity ... world class playing singing ... there is nothing
else like this now." -Chris Cutler.
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::Artist::
Watkins, Kit
::Country::
USA
::Style::
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::Recommendations::
*Holographic Tapestries*
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White Willow
::Country::
Norway
::Style::
Symphonic
::Recommendations::
*Ignus Faatus*
::Comments::
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::Artist::
Xaal
::Country::
France
::Style::
Zeuhl/Fusion/Rock
::Recommendations::
*On the Way*, *Seconde Era*
::Comments::
Rock with fascinating zeuhl influence.
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::Artist::
5UU's
::Country::
USA
::Style::
RIO/Rock - extended songs
::Recommendations::
*Hunger's Teeth*
::Comments::
Very different, original rock with much experimentalism. A highly
regarded modern classic.
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This FAQ is maintained by Phil Kime(Philip AT kime.org.uk). Comments,
questions, and criticisms are positively always welcome. This text
was taken in part from the previous versions of this FAQ, which
were maintained by Scott McMahan, and Mike Borella. The FAQs were
brought into being originally through the sterling efforts of Malcolm
Humes. Many thanks go to all of these gentlemen for their excellent
work.--------------------
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This FAQ is maintained by Phil Kime(Philip AT kime.org.uk). Comments,
questions, and criticisms are positively always welcome. This text
was taken in part from the previous versions of this FAQ, which
were maintained by Scott McMahan, and Mike Borella. The FAQs were
brought into being originally through the sterling efforts of Malcolm
Humes. Many thanks go to all of these gentlemen for their excellent
work.--------------------
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This FAQ is maintained by Phil Kime(Philip AT kime.org.uk). Comments,
questions, and criticisms are positively always welcome. This text
was taken in part from the previous versions of this FAQ, which
were maintained by Scott McMahan, and Mike Borella. The FAQs were
brought into being originally through the sterling efforts of Malcolm
Humes. Many thanks go to all of these gentlemen for their excellent
work.--------------------
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This FAQ is maintained by Phil Kime(Philip AT kime.org.uk). Comments,
questions, and criticisms are positively always welcome. This text
was taken in part from the previous versions of this FAQ, which
were maintained by Scott McMahan, and Mike Borella. The FAQs were
brought into being originally through the sterling efforts of Malcolm
Humes. Many thanks go to all of these gentlemen for their excellent
work.--------------------
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