Five in a row
R. Totale
great etc., started me thinking. I tried to think of who among my
favorite artists has come up with =five album length releases in a
row= which showed that artist contintually at the height of their
powers throughout. Sure, there were lots of bands or people for
whom I liked five records in a row - but there was always at least
one in there which if I was to be honest was really not as good as
the other four. For example, I am and have been for over 30
years (!) as devoted a Peter Hammill fan as there is - but I still
couldn't come up with five in a row without at least a partial dud
in between. Closest I could come (ignoring VDGG, where the
weak "Still Life" screws any group of five) was the five album run
from "Nadir" to "Black Box" - but lets face it, "Black Box" is OK
but barely misses the cut. At this point, I've only been able to come
up with one one which works for me - John Martyn's 70s run of
Bless the Weather
Solid Air
Inside Out
Sunday's Child
Live at Leeds
which is consistently brilliant throughout. I invite you to try your
hand at it. Easy spoilers for the most obvious tries:
Yes - TFTO
Crimso - Earthbound
Soft Machine - Five (if not Four)
P. Floyd - The Wall or Obscured - take your pick
Caravan - Cunning Stunts
Go on, set 'em up...
Jeff Heikkinen
> All this talk of first album great then crap / first album crap then
> great etc., started me thinking. I tried to think of who among my
> favorite artists has come up with =five album length releases in a
> row= which showed that artist contintually at the height of their
> powers throughout.
You dismissed King Crimson, but the way I typically count (releases made
up, in significant part, of brand new recordings - live albums,
compilations, rarities collections are treated seperately), they easily
make it. I think nearly everyone here would agree that Lark's Tongues,
Starless, Red and Discipline all consititue excellent KC; surely most of
us would be happy to tack Lizard on one end or Beat on the other to make
five in a row.
Mark Rae
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> the other four. For example, I am and have been for over 30
> years (!) as devoted a Peter Hammill fan as there is - but I still
> couldn't come up with five in a row without at least a partial dud
> in between. Closest I could come (ignoring VDGG, where the
> weak "Still Life" screws any group of five) was the five album run
> from "Nadir" to "Black Box" - but lets face it, "Black Box" is OK
> but barely misses the cut.
Still Life...weak??????? My goodness me! I can't agree with you there -
Still Life is my second favourite, just behind Godbluff.
But anyway, back to the plot... How about:
Meddle
Dark Side of the Moon
Wish You Were Here
Animals
The Wall
or
Foxtrot
Selling England by the Pound
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
A Trick of the Tail
Wind and Wuthering
or
Space Oddity
Hunky Dory
Ziggy Stardust
Alladin Sane
Diamond Dogs
or
the first five Kate Bush albums
the first five Doors albums
or
In Search of Space
Doremi Fasol Latido
Space Ritual
Hall of the Mountain Grill
Warrior on the Edge of Time
or
Tumbleweed Connection
Madman Across the Water
Don't Shoot Me I'm Only The Piano Player
Honky Chateau
Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
Caribou
Captain Fantastic and the Brown Dirt Cowboy
Blue Moves
or
Led Zeppelin II
Led Zeppelin III
Led Zeppelin IV
Houses of the Holy
Physical Graffiti
or
Rubber Soul
Revolver
Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
The Beatles
Abbey Road
Let It Be
or
Clouds
Ladies of the Canyon
Blue
For the Roses
Court and Spark
Hissing of Summer Lawns
Hejira
or
Shine On Brightly
A Salty Dog
Home
Broken Barricades
Grand Hotel
or
Pablo Honey
The Bends
OK Computer
Kid A
Amnesiac
Hail to the Thief
or
Caress of Steel
2112
A Farewell to Kings
Hemispheres
Permanent Waves
or
Closing Time
The Heart of Saturday Night
Nighthawks at the Diner
Small Change
Foreign Affairs
Blue Valentine
Heartattack and Vine
Swordfishtrombones
Rain Dogs
Frank's Wild Years
or
The Yes Album
Fragile
Close To The Edge
Tales from Topographic Oceans
Relayer
Going for the One
Man In Space
from H to He to World Record (and The Quiet Zone was great too)
agreed on Radiohead
Magma : everything before Merci
Miles Davis
In A Silent Way up to Pangeae
Gong
Magik Brother up to You
Jan
R E Faust
Selling England By The Pound
The Lamb
Trick Of The Tail
Wind And Wuthering
pretty easy really.....
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Steve
Univers Zero:
1313
Heresie
Ceux du Dehors
UZED
Heatwave
very honorable mentions
Curlew
North America
Live In Berlin
"Bee"
A Beautiful Western Saddle
Paradise
Doctor Nerve:
Out To Bomb Fresh Kings
Armed Observation
Did Sprinting Die
Beta 14 OK
Skin
Henry Cow:
Legend
Unrest
In Praise Of Learning
Concerts (may be a partial bomb, depending how much you like the long improvs)
Western Culture
Magma
1001 Degrees Cent
Mekanik Dest. Kommandoh
Kohntarkhoz
Live
Udud Wudu
Beatles:
Revolver
Sgt Pepper
Magical Mystery Tour
White Album (better as a single lp, but still)
Abbey Road
Soft Machine I-Six (choose your favorite starting/ending point)
Nursery Crime
Foxtrot
Selling England by the Pound
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
A Trick of the Tail
Gentle Giant:
Acquiring The Taste
3 Friends
Octapus
In A Glass House
Power and the Glory
Free Hand
Hawkwind:
In Search of Space
Doremi Fasol Latido
Space Ritual
Hall of the Mountain Grill
Warrior on the Edge of Time
and maybe the winner for the most albums?
MILES DAVIS
Silent Way - Agharta/Pangea (an incredible 6 year run!)
Steve
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magnus
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> Gong
> Magik Brother up to You
You have at least Continental Circus interferring with that list...
Flying Teapot
Angel's Egg
You
Shamal
Gazeuse!
...well
-magnus
Man In Space
I wouldn't include any PM albums in a succes row.
Jan
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Biffy the Elephant Shrew
>Beatles:
>Revolver
>Sgt Pepper
>Magical Mystery Tour
>White Album (better as a single lp, but still)
>Abbey Road
This must sound really stupid, but it never occurred to me that
you would particularly like the Beatles. I gather you're not counting
_Yellow Submarine_ as a "real" Beatles album?
Your pal,
Biffy the Elephant Shrew
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I don't want to be right."--Bucky Katt
Biffy the Elephant Shrew
>(ignoring VDGG, where the
>weak "Still Life" screws any group of five)
Their best album.
>Yes - TFTO
Their best album.
Steve
>This must sound really stupid, but it never occurred to me that
>you would particularly like the Beatles.
Why not? Jesus, just b/c I release Sotos albums doesn't mean I can't like The
Beatles. They were great. I mean REALLY great. And very influencial in terms of
making the avant-garde accessible to the masses.
My two personal favorites are probably Magical Mystery Tour and Revolver, but I
love and own all of the ones listed.
> I gather you're not counting
>_Yellow Submarine_ as a "real" Beatles album?
I'd rather not, if you will allow me not to...
Steve
Van der Graaf Generator/Peter Hammill:
Pawn Hearts (VDGG)
Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night (PH)
Silent Corner and the Empty Stage (PH)
In Camera (PH)
Godbluff (VDGG)
Richard Pinhas/Heldon:
Interface (H)
Stand By (H)
Rhizosphere (RP)
Chronolyse (RP)
Iceland (RP)
more as my tired, addled, yard-work fatigued brain thinks of them...
R. Totale
looking for five generally good records, but five consistently
brilliant albums in a row. This is mind (excuse the mass reply, but
you all can tell who you are...)
> Five in a row? Captain Beefheart.
You're right about SP, but for me you could make one brilliant
album out of SK and CS together, and the rest of the songs would
make a very tired album indeed.
>You dismissed King Crimson, but the way I typically count...
Sorry, =five in a row=, live ones count. Beat?? Come on...
>Still Life...weak??????? My goodness me! I can't agree with you there...
Childlike Faith - yawn. The Wall already killed Floyd, and ToTO Yes.
I don't think W&W or TotT show Genesis at their peak, and even if you
do you left out the badly recorded, uninspired Genesis Live (which if
I'm remembering right was released after Foxtrot). I can't comment
on Bowie or Bush or Elton. I've never rated the Doors, though they
were a good singles band I think the albums are dire, sorry. "In
Search of Space" and "Warrior..." may as well be by different bands
and I only barely like the first band. I've never had time for the
Beatles, Rush or Led Zeppelin - I know people love 'em, but nothing
moves me. I love Procol Harum, but "In Held..."? Life is not like a
beanstalk. Joni and Waits may actually qualify - a little of either
goes a long long way for me, but I'll grant that it's possible that
one of those strings of albums may represent an unbroken run of one of
these artists at their peak. I've never heard a Radiohead song.
> Magik Brother up to You
Continental Circus? Even when I was taking drugz I couldn't take
enough to make that sound good.
>Magma : everything before Merci
Attahk? Maybe the drugz =are= better these days!
>top pick? Univers Zero:
Quite possible. I'm missing "Ceux du Dehors" but will admit the other
four set a very high standard and it's probably just as good. Curlew &
Nerve, maybe, but not for me - I don't have all those records but the
ones I do just haven't moved be to buy any more. Concerts does kill
the Cow for me, except for the BBC side I find it unlistenable. I
think 4/5 is a very weak period for Soft Machine, and to me GG sounds
pretty tired on PatG. Miles is far too complicated to even figure out
which five are in a row, but if you're willing to say that everything
he ever released is as good as everything else I'll go along and say
it's all equally great.
dave lane
"R. Totale" wrote:
> Sure, there were lots of bands or people for
> whom I liked five records in a row - but there was always at least
> one in there which if I was to be honest was really not as good as
> the other four. ...
> Soft Machine - Five (if not Four)
I like 5 better than vol. 2, and about as much as 3rd.
I don't have vol. 1, but shied away from it after
hearing that era's material on Triple Echo. I picked
up Jet Propelled Photographs for cheap and didn't
much care for it... is it fairly representative of what
vol. 1 offers, given its vintage and personnel?
--Dave
R. Totale
>also - NOT under the same name, but same musicians on ALL:
>
>Van der Graaf Generator/Peter Hammill:
>Pawn Hearts (VDGG)
>Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night (PH)
>Silent Corner and the Empty Stage (PH)
>In Camera (PH)
>Godbluff (VDGG)
As I said, I love VDGG/Hammill, but I don't think mixing the two is
fair, and even if =you= want to as above you'd have to make room for
"Fool's Mate" and "Nadir", and you'd still have In Camera in there and
if I never hear "The Comet, the Course.." again it'll be too soon.
Biffy the Elephant Shrew
>Why not? Jesus, just b/c I release Sotos albums doesn't mean I can't like The
>Beatles. They were great. I mean REALLY great. And very influencial in terms
of
>making the avant-garde accessible to the masses.
Like I said, it was kind of a stupid comment, and no offense was meant.
I guess it's just that I can't recall your ever mentioning them.
R. Totale
<chickyrapt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Soft Machine - Five (if not Four)
>
>I like 5 better than vol. 2, and about as much as 3rd.
>I don't have vol. 1, but shied away from it after
>hearing that era's material on Triple Echo. I picked
>up Jet Propelled Photographs for cheap and didn't
>much care for it... is it fairly representative of what
>vol. 1 offers, given its vintage and personnel?
The personnel is different (Allen is not on the first real
SM album), and Jet... is really demo tapes not meant for
release anyway. I really like the first two records but in a
different way and for different reasons than other periods.
You'll probably run across a cheap copy of #1 someday,
I wouldn't go out of my way to find one if you didn't like
the selections on Triple Echo but if it's sitting in front of
you why not?
Jeff Heikkinen
changes things somewhat, because IMO Islands blows goats.
Steve
>"Fool's Mate" and "Nadir",
correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Fool's Mate from BEFORE Pawn Hearts and
wasn't Nadir AFTER Godbluff?
Sean McFee
> All this talk of first album great then crap / first album crap then
> great etc., started me thinking. I tried to think of who among my
> favorite artists has come up with =five album length releases in a
> row= which showed that artist contintually at the height of their
> powers throughout.
Gentle Giant, Magma
Henry Cow ;)
Regards,
--
Sean McFee
R. Totale
>>you'd have to make room for
>>"Fool's Mate" and "Nadir",
>
>correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Fool's Mate from BEFORE Pawn Hearts and
>wasn't Nadir AFTER Godbluff?
>
>
>Steve
Nadir certainly came out before Godbluff, and was recorded six months
earlier. I don't have PH or FM to hand, but the UK catalogue numbers
would support FM coming first. I think the US release must have been
after PH, though.
RB
Van Morrison had more than one stretch of 5 great albums -
Astral Weeks to Hard Nose the Highway (6)
Wavelenth to Sense of Wonder (6)
Gentle Giant -
3 Friends to Interview (6)
Jethro Tull -
Stand Up to Passion Play (5)
King Crimson -
Larks Tongues to Discipline (5)
Genesis -
Selling England to Seconds Out (5)
Strawbs -
From the Witchwood to Ghosts (5)
Steeleye Span
Ten Mop to Now We are 6 (5)
Alison Krauss
Every Time You Say Goodbye to Live (5) (maybe more - that's as far back
in her catalogue as I've goten)
And the John Martyn list.
RB
R. Totale
wrote:
>A couple come to mind -
>
>Van Morrison had more than one stretch of 5 great albums -
>Astral Weeks to Hard Nose the Highway (6)
>Wavelenth to Sense of Wonder (6)
I love Van, but have never been able to get into "Tupelo Honey" or
most of "Hard Nose". And frankly I only made it through "Beautiful
Vision" once, maybe I'd like it more now. Recently, he's been pretty
good, but I don't have the last few.
>Jethro Tull -
>Stand Up to Passion Play (5)
The only Tull I really like is this string, but I'm sorry, PP blows.
>Strawbs -
>From the Witchwood to Ghosts (5)
I tried to listen to "Witchwood" and "Antiques and Curios" about a
year ago and couldn't make it through either.
>Steeleye Span
>Ten Mop to Now We are 6 (5)
I dunno, liked them live, but the records don't hold up for me.
>Alison Krauss
>Every Time You Say Goodbye to Live (5) (maybe more - that's as far back
>in her catalogue as I've goten)
I'll give her a try sometime.
>And the John Martyn list.
RB, a man of taste ;-)
Biffy the Elephant Shrew
>The only Tull I really like is this string, but I'm sorry, PP blows.
Here comes that stuck record again:
It's their best album.
Biffy the Elephant Shrew
>...and that you think 'Magical Mystery Tour' is anything but shit? :-)
"Strawberry Fields Forever"? "Penny Lane"? "I Am the Walrus"?
"All You Need Is Love"? Music of that era doesn't come any better,
and there's damn little that equals it.
Biffy the Elephant Shrew
>correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Fool's Mate from BEFORE Pawn Hearts
Yep.
>and wasn't Nadir AFTER Godbluff?
Nope.
Steve
Hey, it's my opinion, but YES. It's one of my very favorites by them!
Mark Rae
> >Still Life...weak??????? My goodness me! I can't agree with you there...
>
> Childlike Faith - yawn.
OK - your opinion.
>The Wall already killed Floyd, and ToTO Yes.
What on earth does that mean?
> I don't think W&W or TotT show Genesis at their peak,
I didn't say they did...
> and even if you do you left out the badly recorded, uninspired Genesis
Live (which if
> I'm remembering right was released after Foxtrot).
Didn't think we were counting live albums... Same reason I left out All The
World's A Stage
> I can't comment on Bowie or Bush or Elton.
OK.
> I've never rated the Doors, though they were a good singles band I think
the albums are dire, sorry.
Why are you apologising?
> "In Search of Space" and "Warrior..." may as well be by different bands
Does that stop them being good albums?
> I've never had time for the Beatles, Rush or Led Zeppelin - I know people
> love 'em, but nothing moves me.
Ah - now we're getting somewhere... :-)
> I love Procol Harum, but "In Held..."? Life is not like a beanstalk.
I think In Held 'Twas In I is a great track
> I've never heard a Radiohead song.
Maybe you should - you might like one...
Mark Rae
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> Mike Dickson wrote:
>
> >...and that you think 'Magical Mystery Tour' is anything but shit? :-)
>
> "Strawberry Fields Forever"? "Penny Lane"? "I Am the Walrus"?
> "All You Need Is Love"? Music of that era doesn't come any better,
> and there's damn little that equals it.
Well said - couldn't agree more!
Cabeza Borradora
>All this talk of first album great then crap / first album crap then
>great etc., started me thinking. I tried to think of who among my
>favorite artists has come up with =five album length releases in a
>row= which showed that artist contintually at the height of their
>powers throughout. Sure, there were lots of bands or people for
>whom I liked five records in a row - but there was always at least
>one in there which if I was to be honest was really not as good as
>the other four. For example, I am and have been for over 30
>years (!) as devoted a Peter Hammill fan as there is - but I still
>couldn't come up with five in a row without at least a partial dud
>in between. Closest I could come (ignoring VDGG, where the
>weak "Still Life" screws any group of five)
Huh? What's wrong with "Still Life"?
>was the five album run
>from "Nadir" to "Black Box" - but lets face it, "Black Box" is OK
>but barely misses the cut. At this point, I've only been able to come
>up with one one which works for me - John Martyn's 70s run of
And what's wrong with the three before "Nadir"? Hell, the _four_ before
"Nadir"?
--
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not-so- famous) Stooge lines. For example, it would be acceptable to
threaten to 'tear out your tonsils' or to 'gouge your eyes out'."
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Cabeza Borradora
>In article <ehnrqvg7pdmhspqub...@4ax.com> slang...@yahoo.com wrote...
>
>> great etc., started me thinking. I tried to think of who among my
>> favorite artists has come up with =five album length releases in a
>> row= which showed that artist contintually at the height of their
>> powers throughout.
>
>Five in a row? Captain Beefheart.
>
> * Strictly Personal
> * Trout Mask Replica
> * Lick My Decals Off, Baby
> * The Spotlight Kid
> * Clear Spot
>
>The first has a bad reputation for chronic over-production (and deserves
>it) but the songs themselves are superb.
I'll call you on Spotlight Kid being played too damn lethargically.
Cabeza Borradora
>> I love Procol Harum, but "In Held..."? Life is not like a beanstalk.
>
>I think In Held 'Twas In I is a great track
So do I, but what's their fifth one? "Broken Barricades"? Not all that, if
you ask me..
>> I've never heard a Radiohead song.
>
>Maybe you should - you might like one...
I wouldn't put the latest and "Amnesiac" in the same league as the three from
"The Bends" to "Kid A", personally.
Cabeza Borradora
>Childlike Faith - yawn. The Wall already killed Floyd, and ToTO Yes.
>I don't think W&W or TotT show Genesis at their peak, and even if you
>do you left out the badly recorded, uninspired Genesis Live (which if
>I'm remembering right was released after Foxtrot). I can't comment
>on Bowie or Bush or Elton. I've never rated the Doors, though they
>were a good singles band I think the albums are dire, sorry. "In
>Search of Space" and "Warrior..." may as well be by different bands
>and I only barely like the first band. I've never had time for the
>Beatles, Rush or Led Zeppelin - I know people love 'em, but nothing
>moves me. I love Procol Harum, but "In Held..."? Life is not like a
>beanstalk. Joni and Waits may actually qualify - a little of either
>goes a long long way for me, but I'll grant that it's possible that
>one of those strings of albums may represent an unbroken run of one of
>these artists at their peak. I've never heard a Radiohead song.
How about the Butthole Surfers from Rembrandt Pussyhorse to Pioughd?
>>Magma : everything before Merci
>
>Attahk? Maybe the drugz =are= better these days!
OK, so cut out "Attahk" if you want, but I still like it. That gives us,
counting backwards, Udu Wudu, Hhai, Kohntarkosz, MDK, and 1001 Degrees
Centigrades. Which all rank.
>>top pick? Univers Zero:
>
>Quite possible. I'm missing "Ceux du Dehors" but will admit the other
>four set a very high standard and it's probably just as good.
It's better! Ceux Du Dehors is absolutely _required_!
Cabeza Borradora
>>Jethro Tull -
>>Stand Up to Passion Play (5)
>
>The only Tull I really like is this string, but I'm sorry, PP blows.
Oh, yeah- how about the first kazillion Plastic People albums?
RB
B...@earthlinq.net says...
> This is one of these general-scope questions which exasperates me
> because scarcely anyone is well-rounded enough to suggest an answer
> which falls outside the prog/proggish realm.
Then don't read them.
RB
Christopher J Currie
> Yes - TFTO
There are many of us who really appreciate that album.
I'm sure someone has beaten me to it, but TYA-->Relayer is probably the
most *obvious* link-of-five-classics here (and could even be taken to
six, if you count GftO ... or seven, if you add _Yessongs_ as well).
> Crimso - Earthbound
_Earthbound_ isn't the only spoiler. KC are one of my favourite bands,
but not all of their albums are classics.
> P. Floyd - The Wall or Obscured - take your pick
I actually *like* _Obscured_, so ...
Atom Heart Mother -> Meddle -> Obscured -> Dark Side -> WYWH
*
Another obvious one:
Genesis: Trespass -> Nursery Cryme -> Foxtrot -> Selling England ->
Lamb (+ the next two as well, for that matter)
_Old RottenHat_ might be the spoiler for Wyatt. Not a bad album, but ...
There are too many spoilers for this to work with Zappa, I fear.
Something else will probably come to me later ...
Christopher
Christopher J Currie
> and maybe the winner for the most albums?
> MILES DAVIS
> Silent Way - Agharta/Pangea (an incredible 6 year run!)
Are you forgetting _On The Corner_?
Christopher
Christopher J Currie
> This is one of these general-scope questions which exasperates me
> because scarcely anyone is well-rounded enough to suggest an answer
> which falls outside the prog/proggish realm.
> *How* many posts did it take before someone casually mentioned the
> Beatles? Jesus.
Many of us don't like their pre-_Rubber Soul_ material that much, and
consider _Magical Mystery Tour_ to be a spoiler. Is this so hard to
accept.
Christopher
Christopher J Currie
> Christopher J Currie <8c...@qlink.queensu.ca> wrote:
>> > *How* many posts did it take before someone casually mentioned the
>> > Beatles? Jesus.
>> Many of us don't like their pre-_Rubber Soul_ material that much, and
>> consider _Magical Mystery Tour_ to be a spoiler. Is this so hard to
>> accept.
> Well, leave it to DJ Rain Man to totally miss the point.....
(I'll assume that's a reference to the numbers thing. Anyway ...)
Your point was that we were ignoring things from the general history of
rock (non-prog). My point was that some of the obvious "general history
of rock" bands (and The Beatles in particular) might not be appropriate
answers in the first place.
Besides which, I think that the original poster was anticipating that most
responses would be *from the prog-rock world* in any event.
Christopher
dave lane
gondola bob wrote:
>
> *How* many posts did it take before someone casually mentioned the
> Beatles? Jesus.
Six.
And your whine came 25 posts later.
--Dave
Pat Buzby
> Space Oddity
> Hunky Dory
> Ziggy Stardust
> Alladin Sane
> Diamond Dogs
You need to factor in Man Who Sold The World and Pin-Ups.
Hmm...perhaps:
Weather Report: pretty much the only albums of theirs that I
wouldn't include on a "great" list would be Mr. Gone, the last three
and *maybe* Sweetnigher.
Or:
Zappa: Absolutely Free, WOIIFTM, Ruben & The Jets, Uncle Meat,
Hot Rats, Weasels Ripped My Flesh, Burnt Weeny Sandwich.
Or:
Firesign Theatre: Waiting for the Electrician, How Could You Be
In Two Places At Once, Don't Crush That Dwarf, I Think We're All Bozos
On This Bus, Dear Friends.
Pat Buzby
Chicago, IL
Guy Berger
> and maybe the winner for the most albums?
> MILES DAVIS
> Silent Way - Agharta/Pangea (an incredible 6 year run!)
I don't remember which albums were released at the time and which came
out after he retired, but At Fillmore pretty much ended this streak.
Now, if we were talking Seven Steps to Heaven => Bitches Brew...
Guy
Guy Berger
> Many of us don't like their pre-_Rubber Soul_ material that much,
That's too bad. Many of you are really missing out.
Guy
Guy Berger
> Weather Report: pretty much the only albums of theirs that I
> wouldn't include on a "great" list would be Mr. Gone, the last three
> and *maybe* Sweetnigher.
Sweetnighter is one of the great ones!!!! I'd say the streak of
classic albums stopped after Mysterious Traveller (which would count as
five in a row if you included Live in Tokyo), though they kept making
great albums at least through Black Market.
Guy
np John Coltrane, Transition
R. Totale
wrote:
>> >Still Life...weak??????? My goodness me! I can't agree with you there...
>>
>> Childlike Faith - yawn.
>
>OK - your opinion.
Uh, yeah. But from basically a VDGG/PH fanboy. I still call 'em as I
sees 'em...
>>The Wall already killed Floyd, and ToTO Yes.
>
>What on earth does that mean?
Sorry, acronym slip. Try "The horrible Wall album kills a potential
5LP run for the Floyds, and the overblown 'Tales...' similarly does in
Yes."
>> I don't think W&W or TotT show Genesis at their peak,
>
>I didn't say they did...
IMO they're nowhere near brilliant, which was my originally stated
requirement. I've got both somewhere and listened to them some when
they came out (and even went and saw them twice in that period, as
well as four times with Gabriel), but I can't imagine playing the
records now.
>Didn't think we were counting live albums...
Five in a row period...
>> I've never rated the Doors, though they were a good singles band I think
>the albums are dire, sorry.
>
>Why are you apologising?
I'm a sensitive soul who's worried about hurting people's feelings...
>> "In Search of Space" and "Warrior..." may as well be by different bands
>
>Does that stop them being good albums?
In the case of "Warrior" it does.
>> I've never heard a Radiohead song.
>
>Maybe you should - you might like one...
Could be. Something tells me I'd have to spend either money or time
to do so, though.
R. Totale
Borradora) wrote:
>Mark Rae come on down:
>
>>> I love Procol Harum, but "In Held..."? Life is not like a beanstalk.
>>
>>I think In Held 'Twas In I is a great track
>
>So do I, but what's their fifth one? "Broken Barricades"? Not all that, if
>you ask me..
It's held up better than you may remember, and actually I think it's
better than "Shine on Brightly" overall. If they'd axed Trower's
stupid "Look, I'm not Hendrix" song from side two it'd be better.
Best song is "Playmate of the Mouth" with a great drunken sounding
horn section and preposterous lyrics.
R. Totale
Borradora) wrote:
>How about the Butthole Surfers from Rembrandt Pussyhorse to Pioughd?
Never heard more than a song or two, can't say.
>>Attahk? Maybe the drugz =are= better these days!
>
>OK, so cut out "Attahk" if you want, but I still like it. That gives us,
>counting backwards, Udu Wudu, Hhai, Kohntarkosz, MDK, and 1001 Degrees
>Centigrades. Which all rank.
Right, but "liking it" isn't enough - I'm looking for long runs of
uninterrupted genius. I don't know "1001 degrees" but you can
stick "Tristan" in there wherever it belongs and make five which
are all equally brilliant or unlistenable depending upon the viewpoint
of the listener.
R. Totale
<8c...@qlink.queensu.ca> wrote:
>Your point was that we were ignoring things from the general history of
>rock (non-prog). My point was that some of the obvious "general history
>of rock" bands (and The Beatles in particular) might not be appropriate
>answers in the first place.
"General history of Rock" bands are even less likely to have done five
excellent records in a row, but...
>Besides which, I think that the original poster was anticipating that most
>responses would be *from the prog-rock world* in any event.
Totally false. My own example has nothing to do with the "prog rock
world". Actually, I mostly listen to 1940's swing and blues these
days.
R. Totale
Borradora) wrote:
>Huh? What's wrong with "Still Life"?
Side Two, pretty much. It's not that it's bad. It's not as good as
what came before or afterwards. I'm requiring continuous joy.
>And what's wrong with the three before "Nadir"? Hell, the _four_ before
>"Nadir"?
"In Camera" has a lot of padding.
Man In Space
pieces, but the whole doesn't work for me, and this time, Hammill really
went over the top with this lyrics imo.
On a side note, it is Banton's fave.
In Camera is my fave 70's Hammill, with Gog as my fave Hammill piece
alltogether.
I think there's lots more padding on Corner and Chameleon.
Jan
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Kevin Muckenthaler
>All this talk of first album great then crap / first album crap then
>great etc., started me thinking. I tried to think of who among my
>favorite artists has come up with =five album length releases in a
>row= which showed that artist contintually at the height of their
>powers throughout. Sure, there were lots of bands or people for
>whom I liked five records in a row - but there was always at least
>one in there which if I was to be honest was really not as good as
>the other four. For example, I am and have been for over 30
>years (!) as devoted a Peter Hammill fan as there is - but I still
>couldn't come up with five in a row without at least a partial dud
>in between. Closest I could come (ignoring VDGG, where the
>weak "Still Life" screws any group of five) was the five album run
>from "Nadir" to "Black Box" - but lets face it, "Black Box" is OK
>but barely misses the cut. At this point, I've only been able to come
>up with one one which works for me - John Martyn's 70s run of
>
>Bless the Weather
>Solid Air
>Inside Out
>Sunday's Child
>Live at Leeds
>
>which is consistently brilliant throughout. I invite you to try your
>hand at it. Easy spoilers for the most obvious tries:
>
>Yes - TFTO
>Crimso - Earthbound
>Soft Machine - Five (if not Four)
>P. Floyd - The Wall or Obscured - take your pick
>Caravan - Cunning Stunts
>
>Go on, set 'em up...
>
Kansas
Song for America
Masque
Leftoverture
Point of Know Return
A lot of people might disagree about that first one, though... (or all of them)
Man In Space
really doubt that East is much less.
Jan
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Mivarsh Faz
:OK, so cut out "Attahk" if you want, but I still like it. That gives us,
:counting backwards, Udu Wudu, Hhai, Kohntarkosz, MDK, and 1001 Degrees
:Centigrades. Which all rank.
I disagree. "Riah Sahiltaahk" (or however the hell you spell it)
is the only track I connect with on 1001. And I find the debut patchy,
if still great when they're on.
MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
to reply, See Beautiful Corners GLOBAL-ly, "dot" your I's and above
all, don't get caught in the NET
"Siento que debemos saber para el sueño de quién brillará esta luz
o consagrar una propia estrella" --Alberto Felici
N.P.:"Silver Dream"- Z o d i a c / D i s c o A l l i a n c e / M u s
i c I n T h e U n i v e r s e
Mivarsh Faz
:or
:
:Led Zeppelin II
:Led Zeppelin III
:Led Zeppelin IV
:Houses of the Holy
:Physical Graffiti
:
Way too much filler on PG. Woulda made a great single LP, though.
[snip!]
:or
:
:Clouds
:Ladies of the Canyon
:Blue
:For the Roses
:Court and Spark
:Hissing of Summer Lawns
:Hejira
:
_For The Roses_ is the textbook "transitional album." But for
that, I'd agree with the winning streak from _Blue_ through to
_Hejira_. I've never been too fond of her pre-_Blue_ albums, they've
always had too much of the fluffy, dated hippie-folkiness that makes
me cringe. But then, a close friend of mine disagrees with me
entirely, and thought the rot began to set in with the introduction of
reeds on _For The Roses_. _Blue_ is the only JM album we agree on.
:or
:
:Pablo Honey
:The Bends
:OK Computer
:Kid A
:Amnesiac
:Hail to the Thief
:
_Pablo Honey_ is terrible, and I find _The Bends_ to be terribly
overrated. Haven't heard HTTT yet, but I look forward to it (the sound
samples are enticing).
:or
:
:Caress of Steel
:2112
:A Farewell to Kings
:Hemispheres
:Permanent Waves
:
_Caress of Steel_ falls into that awkward "early Rush" category
for me, I'm afraid, And I'd enjoy _2112_ a lot more had it not been
for all that objectivist twaddle.
:or
:
:The Yes Album
:Fragile
:Close To The Edge
:Tales from Topographic Oceans
:Relayer
:Going for the One
Spot the obvious error. ;-{)>
MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
to reply, See Beautiful Corners GLOBAL-ly, "dot" your I's and above
all, don't get caught in the NET
"Siento que debemos saber para el sueño de quién brillará esta luz
o consagrar una propia estrella" --Alberto Felici
N.P.:"The Other Side of Heaven"- Z o d i a c / D i s c o A l l i a n
Mivarsh Faz
:>Beatles:
:>Revolver
:>Sgt Pepper
:>Magical Mystery Tour
:>White Album (better as a single lp, but still)
:>Abbey Road
:
:This must sound really stupid, but it never occurred to me that
:you would particularly like the Beatles. I gather you're not counting
:_Yellow Submarine_ as a "real" Beatles album?
How about MMT, which initially was a double EP package, not a
full-length album?
MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
to reply, See Beautiful Corners GLOBAL-ly, "dot" your I's and above
all, don't get caught in the NET
"Siento que debemos saber para el sueño de quién brillará esta luz
o consagrar una propia estrella" --Alberto Felici
N.P.:"The Light of Saturn"- Z o d i a c / D i s c o A l l i a n c e /
Mivarsh Faz
:> and maybe the winner for the most albums?
:> MILES DAVIS
:> Silent Way - Agharta/Pangea (an incredible 6 year run!)
:
:
:Are you forgetting _On The Corner_?
I hopenot. I don't care what smug jazz critics say, I *love* _On
The Corner_. One of my very fave Miles albums.
MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
to reply, See Beautiful Corners GLOBAL-ly, "dot" your I's and above
all, don't get caught in the NET
"Siento que debemos saber para el sueño de quién brillará esta luz
o consagrar una propia estrella" --Alberto Felici
N.P.:"Flight Over El Dorado"- Z o d i a c / D i s c o A l l i a n c e
Mivarsh Faz
:Foxtrot
:Selling England By The Pound
:The Lamb
:Trick Of The Tail
:Wind And Wuthering
I'd subtract W&W from the end and add _Nursery Cryme_ to the
beginning, personally. But that's just me.
Mike Borella
--
Mike Borella
mike at borella dot net
http://www.borella.net
Avant Music News: http://www.borella.net/mike/blog/
Man In Space
Jan
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Anthony Nance
gondola bob <G-...@earthlinq.net> wrote:
>This is one of these general-scope questions which exasperates me
>because scarcely anyone is well-rounded enough to suggest an answer
>which falls outside the prog/proggish realm.
>
>Beatles? Jesus.
Why would the number of posts, or even the amount of time elapsed,
have anything to do with anything? If usenet posting isn't the
closest thing to a perfect seeding system for a random number
generator, I don't know what is.
Anyhow, I used to play this 5-in-a-row game in my misspent youth,
the artists that came to my mind immediately were the ones we
talked/argued about most back then: Yes, Led Zeppelin, Neil Young,
the Beatles, Black Sabbath and Rush. After this knee-jerk group
came a slew of others.
Random musings only on some I've not seen mentioned yet:
Pixies - They have 5 if you don't dismiss Come On Pilgrim as an EP - it
does have 8 songs on it. If you toss in Frank Black's 1st
two (maybe three?) you can go farther.
Black Sabbath - the 1st 5, through Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. Some would
add Sabotage, but not me. I like it, but it isn't
"excellent", or run-maintaining.
Neil Young - Journey Through the Past screws up what would be a long run,
as does Where The Buffalo Roam, if that counts (not that
Hawks and Doves would be that great in its place).
Mogwai - Hard to decipher the releases and what counts (lots of EPs,
for example). Allmusic believes they only have 4 non-EP
releases, for example.
Tangerine Dream - Phaedra through Encore is 6, if you think Cyclone
is excellent (and I do - can't deny it), the run
extends through Thief.
Bob Dylan - Hard to top Freewheelin' Bob Dylan through Nashville Skyline.
If his first one is "worthy", the run extends to 9.
Rolling Stones - Between the Buttons through Sticky Fingers, and
then Exile On Main St depending on where "Jamming
with Edward" counts (if it counts at all).
Spaceman3/Spiritualized - see Mogwai comment; I can't reliably untangle
the release sequence or what's an EP and what isn't.
Traffic - Heaven Is In Your Mind through Shootout At The Fantasy Factory
R.E.M. - Murmur through Document is 5, if Document came before Dead Letter
Office. Both are 1987, but I don't know which came first.
CCR - 1st 5, through Cosmo's Factory. I wouldn't extend that one more to
Pendulum, but some would.
That's enough for now,
Tony
Mark Rae
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> >> >Still Life...weak??????? My goodness me! I can't agree with you
there...
> >>
> >> Childlike Faith - yawn.
> >
> >OK - your opinion.
>
> Uh, yeah. But from basically a VDGG/PH fanboy. I still call 'em as I
> sees 'em...
Likewise, without heading into energy vampire territory... :-)
> Sorry, acronym slip. Try "The horrible Wall album kills a potential
> 5LP run for the Floyds, and the overblown 'Tales...' similarly does in
> Yes."
Can't agree with you on either The Wall or TfTO.
> >> I've never rated the Doors, though they were a good singles band I
think
> >the albums are dire, sorry.
> >
> >Why are you apologising?
>
> I'm a sensitive soul who's worried about hurting people's feelings...
LOL! I wouldn't concern yourself overly with that round these parts... :-)
> >> "In Search of Space" and "Warrior..." may as well be by different bands
> >
> >Does that stop them being good albums?
>
> In the case of "Warrior" it does.
Again, I can't agree. I'd rate Warrior as the Hawks' finest.
> >> I've never heard a Radiohead song.
> >
> >Maybe you should - you might like one...
>
> Could be. Something tells me I'd have to spend either money or time
> to do so, though.
Well worth the investment on both counts.
Mark Rae
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>> :The Yes Album
>> :Fragile
>> :Close To The Edge
>> :Tales from Topographic Oceans
>> :Relayer
>> :Going for the One
>
> Spot the obvious error. ;-{)>
Sorry - I didn't realise we were including live albums in which case,
obviously, Yessongs.
Man In Space
degree, GFTO
Jan
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Steve
one of my faves of his, nonetheless!
Steve
www.waysidemusic.com
www.cuneiformrecords.com
[remove .nos.pam to reply]
Steve
My absolute favorite of his albums!
lol!
Biffy the Elephant Shrew
>How about MMT, which initially was a double EP package, not a
>full-length album?
It was always a full-length album in the USA, and unlike any of the
other US-only repackagings, it has been retconned into the official
Beatles canon.
Your pal,
Biffy the Elephant Shrew
http://members.aol.com/biffyshrew/biffy.html
http://www.mp3.com/michaelpdawson
"If substituting bugs for raisins in oatmeal cookies is wrong,
I don't want to be right."--Bucky Katt
Steve
One of my favorites. I *LOVE* that album.
This is getting funny!
Man In Space
Jan
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Ben Wolfson
wrote:
>:The Bends
>:OK Computer
>:Kid A
>:Amnesiac
>:Hail to the Thief
>:
> _Pablo Honey_ is terrible, and I find _The Bends_ to be terribly
>overrated. Haven't heard HTTT yet, but I look forward to it (the sound
>samples are enticing).
Anyway this would have to be
The Bends
OK Computer
Kid A
Amnesiac
I Might Be Wrong
Hail to the Thief
--
BTR
The Glass Marble, mistaking the No. 37 Penpoint for the Four-Holed
Button, pushed it into the Yawning Chasm.
magnus
"Man In Space" <manin...@pandora.be> skrev i melding
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> Was that a Gong album? And if it is, isn't it any good.
> I wouldn't include any PM albums in a succes row.
>
> Jan
Maybe it was originally released as a Daevid Allen's Gong-album, but so was
Magic Brother.
Shamal and Gazeuse! was not... although it was a complete different band
(something to do with the record contract, I think).
In that case:
Camembert Electrique
Flying Teapot
Angel's Egg
You
Fish Rising
hehe
-magnus
magnus
"Christopher J Currie" <8c...@qlink.queensu.ca> skrev i melding
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> There are too many spoilers for this to work with Zappa, I fear.
Well if you canstand Overnight Sensation then you probably can work
something out...
Or if you like me think Zoot Allures is a good album (Not among his best,
but)
or Chunga's Revenge or Ruben And The Jets
Apostrophe
Roxy and Elsewhere
One Size Fits All
Bongo Fury (...)
Zoot Allures
In New York
Studio Tan
Sheik Yerbouti
Sleep Dirt
not a sparkling string of masterpieces....
-magnus
RB
slang...@yahoo.com says...
> On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:03:59 -0500, RB <rbe...@sympatico.ca.nospam>
> wrote:
>
> >A couple come to mind -
> >
> >Van Morrison had more than one stretch of 5 great albums -
> >Astral Weeks to Hard Nose the Highway (6)
> >Wavelenth to Sense of Wonder (6)
>
> I love Van, but have never been able to get into "Tupelo Honey" or
> most of "Hard Nose". And frankly I only made it through "Beautiful
> Vision" once, maybe I'd like it more now. Recently, he's been pretty
> good, but I don't have the last few.
Even if you take out Hard Nose, that's five, and Tupelo Honey is, well,
essential. Beautiful Vision is great - if you like the others in that
time frame, I would think it would work for you. I find his more recent
stuff to be really patchy - some of it is great and some is why did he do
that?
>
> >Jethro Tull -
> >Stand Up to Passion Play (5)
>
> The only Tull I really like is this string, but I'm sorry, PP blows.
What Biffy said. I could also argue the string runs from Stand Up right
through Heavy Horses, if it weren't for that damn Too Old...
>
> >Strawbs -
> >From the Witchwood to Ghosts (5)
>
> I tried to listen to "Witchwood" and "Antiques and Curios" about a
> year ago and couldn't make it through either.
Antiques is earlier, and it doesn't hold up all that well for me, but I
love Witchwood - the mix of folk, psychedelia, and a bit of the
progressive feel really click with me.
>
> >Steeleye Span
> >Ten Mop to Now We are 6 (5)
>
> I dunno, liked them live, but the records don't hold up for me.
Yeah, they were great live, but that string of albums defines trad
folk/rock for me - and I know Fairport did it first, but SS did it
better.
>
> >Alison Krauss
> >Every Time You Say Goodbye to Live (5) (maybe more - that's as far back
> >in her catalogue as I've goten)
>
> I'll give her a try sometime.
New Favorite and Live are great starting points.
>
> >And the John Martyn list.
>
> RB, a man of taste ;-)
>
Yeah, I'll cut you some slack for now.
RB
Cabeza Borradora
>Christopher J Currie wrote:
>
>> Many of us don't like their pre-_Rubber Soul_ material that much,
>
> That's too bad. Many of you are really missing out.
Well, they had some good singles early on- "She Loves You", "AHDN", "Help!"
are all fantastic cuts- but their early albums are just horribly inconsistent,
IMO.
Plus, I actually listened to "Anthology Vol. 1" once. My GOD, but that thing
was INCREDIBLY HORRIBLE, as opposed to Vols. 2 and 3, which I like a lot and
listen to fairly often.
--
"Flames are discouraged, except for those which quote famous (or
not-so- famous) Stooge lines. For example, it would be acceptable to
threaten to 'tear out your tonsils' or to 'gouge your eyes out'."
- alt.comedy.slapstick.3-stooges FAQ
Jeff
>Black Sabbath - the 1st 5, through Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. Some would
> add Sabotage, but not me. I like it, but it isn't
> "excellent", or run-maintaining.
I don't know. _Sabotage_ has some of their most groundbreaking material
musically *and* lyrically:
Hole in the Sky
Symptom of The Universe
Megalomania
The Thrill of it All
The Writ
All of the above are pretty much certified classics. Butler's lyrics by this
point were, arguably, genuis.
Now, you can take out "Supertzar" and maybe "Am I Going Insane," but I think
those pieces are still interesting, and in the case of "Supertzar," very, very
good. I believe Ozzy wrote AIGI -- even though Sabbath credited most everything
to the entire group -- and I think the guitar solo in the middle with the
space-glitter tone makes it worthwhile. So, basically, I think the first six
are pretty much a run of brilliance, and _Sabotage_ qualifies.
- Jeff
To me, it's a good idea to always carry two sacks of something when you walk
around. That way, if anybody says, "Hey, can you give me a hand?" You can say,
"Sorry, got these sacks."
Jack Handy
Cabeza Borradora
>dogw...@frostwarning.com (Cabeza Borradora) wrote:
>
>:OK, so cut out "Attahk" if you want, but I still like it. That gives us,
>:counting backwards, Udu Wudu, Hhai, Kohntarkosz, MDK, and 1001 Degrees
>:Centigrades. Which all rank.
>
> I disagree. "Riah Sahiltaahk" (or however the hell you spell it)
>is the only track I connect with on 1001.
Which, to be fair, is half the damn album. Oh, and I stupidly forgot to put
"Wurdah Itah" in that list, which would give us five without even having to go
to 1001 Degrees.
> And I find the debut patchy,
>if still great when they're on.
The debut _is_ patchy, admittedly.
Cabeza Borradora
>Mivarsh Faz wrote:
>
>>How about MMT, which initially was a double EP package, not a
>>full-length album?
>
>It was always a full-length album in the USA, and unlike any of the
>other US-only repackagings, it has been retconned into the official
>Beatles canon.
Isn't the Earth-2 release of "The White Album" now considered an official
Beatles release?
Jeff
candidate for this thread. I'd add _Novella_ as well and make it six. Not sure
I'd go any further than that, however.
Biffy the Elephant Shrew
>I was smoking crack and thinking of 'Yellow Submarine'.
A very popular pastime, I'm led to believe.
tom
> On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 15:03:59 -0500, RB <rbe...@sympatico.ca.nospam>
> wrote:
>
>
>>A couple come to mind -
>>
>>Van Morrison had more than one stretch of 5 great albums -
>>Astral Weeks to Hard Nose the Highway (6)
>>Wavelenth to Sense of Wonder (6)
>
>
> I love Van, but have never been able to get into "Tupelo Honey" or
> most of "Hard Nose". And frankly I only made it through "Beautiful
> Vision" once, maybe I'd like it more now. Recently, he's been pretty
> good, but I don't have the last few.
>
>
To each his own, always loved Tupelo.
>
>>Alison Krauss
>>Every Time You Say Goodbye to Live (5) (maybe more - that's as far back
>>in her catalogue as I've goten)
>
>
> I'll give her a try sometime.
>
There are certainly other options for proggers to enter the
bluegrass world that would seem more likely. I've never been
fond of Alison Krauss (give me Alison Brown instead) who stikes
me as more of a pop/bluegrass hybrid. Demangle my email and ask
me at home if you want a list of my personal jazzgrass and
chambergrass recommendations.
Cabeza Borradora
>In article <0kitqvghn462dt3d9...@4ax.com> dogw...@frostwarning.com wrote...
>
>> >The first has a bad reputation for chronic over-production (and deserves
>> >it) but the songs themselves are superb.
>>
>> I'll call you on Spotlight Kid being played too damn lethargically.
>
>I'll raise you on that - I like that quality. Having read ZHR's book I
>can kind of see *why* the band play it like that, though. Apparently
>'Glider' was even slower once.
Personally, I prefer the live versions of the Spotlight Kid songs, which are
played at what sounds to me to be a more reasonable tempo. Plus, "I'm Gonna
Booglarize You Baby" was KILLER live.
Christopher J Currie
>>Are you forgetting _On The Corner_?
> One of my favorites. I *LOVE* that album.
The best thing about that album is the tabla percussion on the
next-to-last track. Otherwise, I'm tempted to go with a line that I saw
is a recent buyer's guide: "Mostly, the critics were right."
Christopher
Christopher J Currie
> Guy Berger come on down:
>>Christopher J Currie wrote:
>>> Many of us don't like their pre-_Rubber Soul_ material that much,
>> That's too bad. Many of you are really missing out.
> Well, they had some good singles early on- "She Loves You", "AHDN", "Help!"
I'd add "Please Please Me" and "Ticket To Ride" to that list. But, as
you've said ...
> are all fantastic cuts- but their early albums are just horribly inconsistent,
> IMO.
Christopher
Christopher J Currie
>>_Old RottenHat_ might be the spoiler for Wyatt. Not a bad album, but ...
> My absolute favorite of his albums!
Don't you find the music to be a bit, well, "samey" from track to track?
I like the album, mind you -- I just wouldn't rate at the level of RW's
best.
Christopher
Mivarsh Faz
:>Still Life...weak??????? My goodness me! I can't agree with you there...
:
:Childlike Faith - yawn.
That's odd. "Childlike Faith..." is one of the few songs I can
tolerate from _Still Life_. I found "La Rossa" to be rather
forgettable and the title track to be teh suck (plus, some of
Hammill's worst lyrics this side of "Killer").
MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
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Mivarsh Faz
:Another obvious error, in may aspects, would be TFTO, and to a lesser
:degree, GFTO
I was, of course, referring to the former. (I personally wouldn't
"count" live albums)
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Man In Space
liked Faith : great pieces, but somehow they don't click together for me,
and that's one lyric that's really over the top imo.
Banton's fave incidentally.
Jan
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kenny
2. American Garage
3. Offramp
4.First Circle
5. Still Life (Talking)
i only included studio recordings...hence the omission of "Travels".
kenny
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> Banton's fave incidentally.
Yes indeed - he said as much in a TV interview a while back.
Steve
I don't know. I never thought about it that way. I never really tried to
analize it! I just...like it the best!
ScippyLisp
Embryo:
I could name more... but:
Rache
Father, Son, and Holy Ghost
We Keep On
Stieg Aus
Rocksession
(all from '71-73)
a few jazzers:
Steve Coleman:
Genesis
The Opening of the Way
Sonic Language of Myth
The Ascension to Light
Alternate Dimension Series I
Resistance is Futile (live)
On The Rising of the 64 Paths
Aka Moon
Ganesh
Elohim
Invisible Mother
Invisible Sun
Invisible Moon
In Real Time
Guitars
Cozy
Cabeza Borradora
I like it lots, but I can't help but think that it maybe could've used a few
more riffs. It gets awfully repetitive.
Cabeza Borradora
>R. Totale <slang...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>:>Still Life...weak??????? My goodness me! I can't agree with you there...
>:
>:Childlike Faith - yawn.
>
> That's odd. "Childlike Faith..." is one of the few songs I can
>tolerate from _Still Life_. I found "La Rossa" to be rather
>forgettable and the title track to be teh suck (plus, some of
>Hammill's worst lyrics this side of "Killer").
"Pilgrims" is the one I can never remember.
Cabeza Borradora
>Steve <cune...@aol.com.nos.pam> wrote:
>>>_Old RottenHat_ might be the spoiler for Wyatt. Not a bad album, but ...
>
>> My absolute favorite of his albums!
>
>Don't you find the music to be a bit, well, "samey" from track to track?
Well, certainly the instrumentation doesn't vary a heck of a lot, but the
music itself is pretty well-conceived and vibrant. "Gharbzadegi" is an utter
classic.
My only problem with it is that it's perhaps excessively politically strident.
Steve
well....if you like something, it's 'hypnotic'. if you don't like something,
it's 'repetitive'...
<grin>
Jeff Heikkinen
> R. Totale <slang...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes - TFTO
>
>
> There are many of us who really appreciate that album.
Absolutely.
> > P. Floyd - The Wall or Obscured - take your pick
I'd call Animals a spoiler before either of the ones you mentioned.
>
> I actually *like* _Obscured_, so ...
>
> Atom Heart Mother -> Meddle -> Obscured -> Dark Side -> WYWH
The problem here is Atom Heart Mother. I find the title track and
Alan's Psychadelic Breakfast pretty dire and that's two thirds of the
album gone right there. Summer '68 is, even if one likes it, not the
sort of song one listens to Pink Floyd for; the solo at the end of Fat
Old Sun is blissful but you have to wade through an otherwise pretty
boring song to get there; that leaves If as the only song on the album
that I would really consider excellent.
> Another obvious one:
>
> Genesis: Trespass -> Nursery Cryme -> Foxtrot -> Selling England ->
> Lamb (+ the next two as well, for that matter)
Foxtrot spoils this sequence for me. I find it very overrated,
especially Supper's Ready. I'm also not familiar enough with Nursery
Cryme to say if it belongs. (Trespass, on the other hand, I like a
lot.)
If you count live albums (which I would strenously object to) then the
sequence for Genesis becomes Selling England -> Lamb -> Trick -> W&W ->
Seconds Out, which I can just about accept.
Jeff
>> That's odd. "Childlike Faith..." is one of the few songs I can
>> tolerate from _Still Life_. I found "La Rossa" to be rather
>> forgettable and the title track to be teh suck (plus, some of
>> Hammill's worst lyrics this side of "Killer").
"Still Life" has some pretty heavy lyrics. I think it shows an amazing insight
into issues many of us must contemplate. Fucking phenomenal, IMO. As far as
"Killer," I seem to always be defending it here, but fer cryin' out loud, the
lyrics are obviously not trying to be anything deep or thought provoking. I
think they are just good fun and that's about the extent to which they should
be judged. People mention them as being bad, as if Hammill sat down and penned
that song as some sort of statement. It's just good, heavy rock yelling and the
lyrics strike me as tongue in cheek.
End of rant. ;-)
Christopher J Currie
> Christopher J Currie come on down:
>>Steve <cune...@aol.com.nos.pam> wrote:
>>>>_Old RottenHat_ might be the spoiler for Wyatt. Not a bad album, but ...
>>> My absolute favorite of his albums!
>>Don't you find the music to be a bit, well, "samey" from track to track?
> Well, certainly the instrumentation doesn't vary a heck of a lot, but the
> music itself is pretty well-conceived and vibrant. "Gharbzadegi" is an utter
> classic.
> My only problem with it is that it's perhaps excessively politically strident.
Funny, I thought that was the *best* thing about the album. I don't know
if I'd have any respect for a song like "East Timor" if it weren't for the
lyrics.
"The Age Of Self" and "Alliance" wouldn't work as instrumentals either,
come to think of it.
Christopher
Christopher J Currie
> Christopher J Currie was talking about Miles's _On The Corner_:
>>The best thing about that album is the tabla percussion on the
>>next-to-last track. Otherwise, I'm tempted to go with a line that I saw
>>is a recent buyer's guide: "Mostly, the critics were right."
> I like it lots, but I can't help but think that it maybe could've used a few
> more riffs. It gets awfully repetitive.
It's repetitive, and the constant maximum-wah-wah sound is no fun at all.
I like pretty much everything else Miles did in this period, but _On The
Corner_ still seems like a slip-up.
Christopher
Man In Space
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> Christopher J Currie, worshipped by llamas the world over, wrote...
> > R. Totale <slang...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes - TFTO
> >
> >
> > There are many of us who really appreciate that album.
>
> Absolutely.
>
Don't worry, doctors are very close to a cure ;-)
Jan
> > Genesis: Trespass -> Nursery Cryme -> Foxtrot -> Selling England ->
> > Lamb (+ the next two as well, for that matter)
>
> Foxtrot spoils this sequence for me. I find it very overrated,
> especially Supper's Ready. I'm also not familiar enough with Nursery
> Cryme to say if it belongs. (Trespass, on the other hand, I like a
> lot.)
>
> If you count live albums (which I would strenously object to) then the
> sequence for Genesis becomes Selling England -> Lamb -> Trick -> W&W ->
> Seconds Out, which I can just about accept.
Genesis lost it after Foxtrot, only to regain it shortly with ATOTT.
Jan
Man In Space
who is hard on his environment, coupled to Hammill's fascination for the
sea.
He was also very young when he wrote that, since the second generation he
became one of the best lyricists in rock by far, Childlike is about the only
lyric since then where he lost subtlety.
Jan
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