GENTLE GIANT RAP?!?!?!?!?
nut...@lycosmail.com
The other day while I was at work, a co-worker, and friend of mine came up to
me with his walkman in hand, and said "Dude! You gotta check this out!" I
did. Now, let me ask you all something. Are you familliar with the practice
by rap artists of quoting samples of pre-existing music, and looping it so
as to serve as a musical foundation upon which they do the rap thing? Well,
someone has done the unthinkable! When listened to the radio station that my
friend had on his walkman, I heard someone rapping (poorly, if that's not
redundant) over a never ending repetition of the electric piano intro to
'Proclamation' from The Power and the Glory. I kid you not. This is a
disturbing thing, no? -chris
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Tx802
> I heard someone rapping (poorly, if that's not
>redundant) over a never ending repetition of the electric piano intro to
>'Proclamation' from The Power and the Glory. I kid you not. This is a
>disturbing thing, no? -chris
A vile, vile thing indeed.
Josh Kortbein
nut...@lycosmail.com wrote:
: The other day while I was at work, a co-worker, and friend of mine came up to
: me with his walkman in hand, and said "Dude! You gotta check this out!" I
: did. Now, let me ask you all something. Are you familliar with the practice
: by rap artists of quoting samples of pre-existing music, and looping it so
: as to serve as a musical foundation upon which they do the rap thing? Well,
: someone has done the unthinkable! When listened to the radio station that my
: redundant) over a never ending repetition of the electric piano intro to
: 'Proclamation' from The Power and the Glory. I kid you not. This is a
: disturbing thing, no? -chris
It's modern life, get with it, baby!
Josh
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J. Mcglinchey
On Sun, 5 Jul 1998 nut...@lycosmail.com wrote:
> someone has done the unthinkable! When listened to the radio station that my
> friend had on his walkman, I heard someone rapping (poorly, if that's not
> redundant) over a never ending repetition of the electric piano intro to
> 'Proclamation' from The Power and the Glory. I kid you not. This is a
> disturbing thing, no? -chris
Jeesh, I was just kidding about the Onxy/Gentle Giant thing! :)
I think that's awesome, BTW...maybe Damion Anderson, in his long-awaited
sequel to "Close 2 the Hype" ?
Joe M.
U of Washington
reve_...@my-dejanews.com
In article <6nop15$ij1$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
nut...@lycosmail.com wrote:
>
> The other day while I was at work, a co-worker, and friend of mine came up to
> me with his walkman in hand, and said "Dude! You gotta check this out!" I
> did. Now, let me ask you all something. Are you familliar with the practice
> by rap artists of quoting samples of pre-existing music, and looping it
so
> as to serve as a musical foundation upon which they do the rap thing? Well,
> friend had on his walkman, I heard someone rapping (poorly, if that's not
> redundant) over a never ending repetition of the electric piano intro to
> 'Proclamation' from The Power and the Glory. I kid you not. This is a
> disturbing thing, no? -chris
I think most people are used to it by now, although it doesn't make it right.
It is strange what you hear sampled these days. I swear that I heard Van der
Graaf Generator's version of "Theme One" sampled in a rap tune a couple of
years ago. I am not familiar with any other versions, but it sure sounded
like theirs. I have also heard the first part of King Crimson's "Red" in a
techno song. Ihave also heard Voivod's "Overreaction" in something as well.
Unfortunately, I have no knowledge of titles or artists that these were from.
I guess for now they are unsubstantiated unless someone backs me up.
How's this for a thread: Progressive Songs That I Would Love To Hear Sampled
in a Rap Song. My vote: Klaus Kombalad by Magma.
Reve Ripper
F.B.
>> I heard someone rapping (poorly, if that's not
>>redundant) over a never ending repetition of the electric piano intro
to
>>'Proclamation' from The Power and the Glory. I kid you not. This is a
>>disturbing thing, no? -chris
The first interesting use that a Gentle Giant song has ever been put
to, IMO.
Matt P
F.B.
writes:
>In article <6nop15$ij1$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
> nut...@lycosmail.com wrote:
>>
>> The other day while I was at work, a co-worker, and friend of mine
came up to
>> me with his walkman in hand, and said "Dude! You gotta check this
out!" I
>> did. Now, let me ask you all something. Are you familliar with the
practice
>> by rap artists of quoting samples of pre-existing music, and
looping it
>so
>> as to serve as a musical foundation upon which they do the rap
thing? Well,
>> someone has done the unthinkable! When listened to the radio station
that my
that's not
>> redundant) over a never ending repetition of the electric piano
intro to
>> 'Proclamation' from The Power and the Glory. I kid you not. This is
a
>> disturbing thing, no? -chris
>
right.
>It is strange what you hear sampled these days. I swear that I heard
Van der
>Graaf Generator's version of "Theme One" sampled in a rap tune a
couple of
>years ago. I am not familiar with any other versions, but it sure
sounded
>like theirs. I have also heard the first part of King Crimson's "Red"
in a
>techno song. Ihave also heard Voivod's "Overreaction" in something as
well.
>
>Unfortunately, I have no knowledge of titles or artists that these
were from.
>I guess for now they are unsubstantiated unless someone backs me up.
>
>How's this for a thread: Progressive Songs That I Would Love To Hear
Sampled
>in a Rap Song. My vote: Klaus Kombalad by Magma.
>
>Reve Ripper
It has to be something with a regular beat, most likely, unless it's
done by someone like Beck or Beastie Boys, who so densely implement
different samples into a single song that a quick passage from *any*
song by *any* artist is a possibility.
I've always thought that the short instrumental bit of Genesis' Dodo
that immediately precedes the first line of vocals, could be
successfully looped for a good rap sample; preferably done by a loud,
enunciating kind of rapper like Chuck D. or KRS-1.
Staying with Genesis, the bass line from parts of Watcher of the Skies
would make for a good rap song, as would the chorus section of Pink
Floyd's Another Brick in the Wall pt. 2 (sans vocals).
On a completely non-prog note, I've been waiting for a rap artist to
borrow Aerosmith's funky bass line from Sweet Emotion ever since I
first heard the song, as well as the drum and bass from the
instrumenatal introduction to Steve Miller's Swingtown.
Matt P
Chuck Busby
not long ago, I walked into my living room cause i heard Steely Dan's
Black Cow playing. Just as i started singing along at full voice,
some bastard started rapping over it. I was sure disappointed.
Scarecrow
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J. Mcglinchey
> On Tue, 07 Jul 1998 05:24:39 GMT, reve_...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> not long ago, I walked into my living room cause i heard Steely Dan's
> Black Cow playing. Just as i started singing along at full voice,
> some bastard started rapping over it. I was sure disappointed.
> Scarecrow
I was listening to an All Saints album (why, I have no idea) in the record
store about a month ago when I heard in one of their songs a familiar riff
that I knew I had heard before (on electric piano)...it drove me crazy the
rest of the day trying to remember where it was from. Then, later that
night, it suddenly hit me. They had sampled the opening to Steely Dan's
"The Fez"! The song was a big hit, too, though I can't remember the title.
Georyn
>not long ago, I walked into my living room cause i heard Steely Dan's
>Black Cow playing. Just as i started singing along at full voice,
>some bastard started rapping over it. I was sure disappointed.
You sing along with this full voice as well? ;-{)> Yeah, I guess Steely
Dan has become popular sampling source material since De La Soul did that rap
with the lyricon bit from "Peg" as the background sample. Remember when De La
Soul were considered so "innovative" a few years back? Where are they now?
%-{)>
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> Remember when De La Soul were considered so "innovative" a few years
> back? Where are they now? %-{)>
Probably playing smaller and smaller rooms as time goes by while playing
all of their old songs to try to re-live the glory days and make a few
bucks in the process.
Hmmm... a De La Soul/ELP/Yes/Styx package tour?
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Tx802
>> Remember when De La Soul were considered so "innovative" a few years
>> back? Where are they now? %-{)>
>
>Probably playing smaller and smaller rooms as time goes by while playing
>all of their old songs to try to re-live the glory days
They became discouraged because, when their songs would start playing,
everyone would think that it was the group who they had sampled coming on and
not them. What a shame. All for naught.
F.B.
Why all the jabs on De La Soul? "Three Feet High and Rising" was one
of the best albums ever; a true rap masterpiece that was brilliantly
written and sampled. The group faded because of internal dissentions.
Damn, it's not like Yes or Genesis ever went on making albums after
they ceased to be a viable creative entity.
Matt P
Josh Kortbein
: In <199807080017...@ladder03.news.aol.com> tx...@aol.com
But they were _prog_!
Josh
:)
Richard Barnes
<ltri...@ix.netcom.com> writes
>
>
>>> I heard someone rapping (poorly, if that's not
>>>redundant) over a never ending repetition of the electric piano intro
>to
>>>'Proclamation' from The Power and the Glory. I kid you not. This is a
>>>disturbing thing, no? -chris
>
>to, IMO.
>
>Matt P
that you get when you try it on with Yes Rush and ELP I wonder? Are all
Gentle Giant fans on valium or something :-)
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Adam Levin
> >>> I heard someone rapping (poorly, if that's not
> >>>redundant) over a never ending repetition of the electric piano intro
> >to
> >>>'Proclamation' from The Power and the Glory. I kid you not. This is a
> >>>disturbing thing, no? -chris
> >
> >The first interesting use that a Gentle Giant song has ever been put
> >to, IMO.
>
> Why is it that remarks like this don't inspire the same kind of flamings
> that you get when you try it on with Yes Rush and ELP I wonder? Are all
> Gentle Giant fans on valium or something :-)
Nope, just mature enough to realize that others have differing opinions
while being secure enough in their own opinions to not feel the need to
freak out and berate these others - or worse yet, try to "convert" them
(i.e. the old "You should listen to it 40 more times because you are
obviously not getting it." hogwash).
Ghost
> > that you get when you try it on with Yes Rush and ELP I wonder? Are all
> > Gentle Giant fans on valium or something :-)
>
> Nope, just mature enough to realize that others have differing opinions
> while being secure enough in their own opinions to not feel the need to
> freak out and berate these others - or worse yet, try to "convert" them
> (i.e. the old "You should listen to it 40 more times because you are
> obviously not getting it." hogwash).
So Rush, Yes, and ELP fans aren't mature? I like GG too, so I guess I'm
okay.
Markus Hollaender
->> > Why is it that remarks like this don't inspire the same kind of flamings
->> > that you get when you try it on with Yes Rush and ELP I wonder? Are all
->> > Gentle Giant fans on valium or something :-)
->>
->> Nope, just mature enough to realize that others have differing opinions
->> while being secure enough in their own opinions to not feel the need to
->> freak out and berate these others - or worse yet, try to "convert" them
->> (i.e. the old "You should listen to it 40 more times because you are
->> obviously not getting it." hogwash).
->
->
->So Rush, Yes, and ELP fans aren't mature? I like GG too, so I guess I'm
->okay.
First, it's "mature enough" (which makes a difference).
Second, not all Rush/Yes/ELP fans start a flame avalanche; so those who
don't are probably "mature enough" :-)
Markus
F.B.
<ric...@sandyrig.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
>In article <6ns7bd$3...@sjx-ixn9.ix.netcom.com>, F.B.
><ltri...@ix.netcom.com> writes
>>
>>
>>>>redundant) over a never ending repetition of the electric piano
intro
>>to
>>>>'Proclamation' from The Power and the Glory. I kid you not. This is
a
>>>>disturbing thing, no? -chris
>>
>>The first interesting use that a Gentle Giant song has ever been put
>>to, IMO.
>>
>Why is it that remarks like this don't inspire the same kind of
flamings
all
OK, I'll admit that I like Free Hand and some of the stuff on Acquiring
the Taste.
But generally I just can't get into these guys (although in a
completely formalistic and technical sense, they were pretty amazing).
Matt P
Georyn
>>The first interesting use that a Gentle Giant song has ever been put
>>to, IMO.
>>
>>Matt P
>Why is it that remarks like this don't inspire the same kind of flamings
>that you get when you try it on with Yes Rush and ELP I wonder? Are all
>Gentle Giant fans on valium or something :-)
No, it's just that us GG fans are intelligent enough to see it's just a
troll posting by someone screaming for attention. Lord knows I'm not going to
give it to them. Do you see me replying to posts marked "wHY FUCK IS COOL
d00d's!!!!!"? (People, that's what killfiles are for)
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Dgasque
<ric...@sandyrig.demon.co.uk> writes:
>>The first interesting use that a Gentle Giant song has ever been put
>>to, IMO.
>>
>>Matt P
>Why is it that remarks like this don't inspire the same kind of flamings
>that you get when you try it on with Yes Rush and ELP I wonder? Are all
>Gentle Giant fans on valium or something :-)
We're just gentle, I suppose...;-)
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chrisL
>
>Nope, just mature enough to realize that others have differing opinions
>while being secure enough in their own opinions to not feel the need to
>freak out and berate these others - or worse yet, try to "convert" them
>(i.e. the old "You should listen to it 40 more times because you are
>obviously not getting it." hogwash).
>
Actually, I think that method works where GG is concerned <g>.
chrisL
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Josh Kortbein
: Richard Barnes wrote:
: >>The first interesting use that a Gentle Giant song has ever been put
: >>to, IMO.
: >>
: >>Matt P
: >Why is it that remarks like this don't inspire the same kind of flamings
: >that you get when you try it on with Yes Rush and ELP I wonder? Are all
: >Gentle Giant fans on valium or something :-)
: No, it's just that us GG fans are intelligent enough to see it's just a
: troll posting by someone screaming for attention. Lord knows I'm not going to
: give it to them. Do you see me replying to posts marked "wHY FUCK IS COOL
: d00d's!!!!!"? (People, that's what killfiles are for)
Actually, that was a pretty entertaining thread. :)
Jon Parmet
>
> On Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:44:51 -0400, Adam Levin <ale...@DarkAether.net> wrote:
> >Nope, just mature enough to realize that others have differing opinions
> >while being secure enough in their own opinions to not feel the need to
> >freak out and berate these others - or worse yet, try to "convert" them
> >(i.e. the old "You should listen to it 40 more times because you are
> >obviously not getting it." hogwash).
> >
> Actually, I think that method works where GG is concerned <g>.
You both may be right. When I heard tunes like In A Glass House, I got
'it' the first time. And the other 39 as well <g>
Regards,
Jon
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