In article <25209-369808BB...@newsd-151.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
Son-of-ElT...@webtv.net (Mike O'Hagan) writes: >I'm glad someone mentioned Diamanda Galas since that's the first one I >would recommend. You might also be interested in Siouxsie Sioux. Not a >"progressive" artist but she's among the more distinctive voices out >there. >Nina Hagen put out an amazing album in the early 80's titled >"Nunsexmonkrock". On this release she at times sounds almost like >Dagmar Krause. I also hear a few similarities to Mr. Doctor! >Someone may of already mentioned this but Lisa Gerard of Dead Can Dance >is well worth exploring. Danielle Dax is another to consider.
Since you've brought up a couple of "new wave" divas in Siouxsie and Nina, I feel safe in bringing up Debra Iyall of Romeo Void. Their first LP, _It's a Condition_ was fairly atypical of the West Coast new wave era of the 80's- very moody at times yet jazzy at others. This LP was definitely one of the more progressive LPs to come out of the scene.
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Son-of-ElT...@webtv.net wrote... > Danielle Dax is another to consider.
Her voice is a little shrill for my liking at times, but *everyone* should get a chance to hear 'Jesus Egg That Wept' just once.
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progb...@aol.comGEORYN wrote... > I've heard her called the female Tom Waits
You have *no idea* how disturbing I find that.
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In article <19990110011515.17754.00003...@ngol08.aol.com>,
progb...@aol.comGEORYN (Progbear) wrote: > Yeah, she's a pretty neat singer, has an unusual style though. I've heard > her called the female Tom Waits, but that's not really accurate, as she can > actually sing. More like an alcoholic hipster version of Joni Mitchell to my > ears. ;-{)>
Well, unsurprising since they were shacked up together for years. There are all kinds of similarities in their music and lyrics, perhaps most obvious are the constant references to their buddy Chuck E Weiss.
And just for the record, I LOVE Tom Waits voice, and his singing.
> Oh, I forgot to mention Sandrose, a French progressive rock band featuring > the soul-inflected voice of Rose Powojny (whose name I probably misspelled).
Yeah, but Rose's voice may not be to everyone's taste. I like it now, but didn't managed to appreciate it over the first couple of listening...
Other nice bands featuring great female voices (that I didn't see any comments about - maybe I missed some posts, tough)
- Kultivator (Canterburzeuhl music, featuring very pleasing soprano voicing. Hear it, friends!) - Cos (The signer - forgot about her name - has some beatifull high-pitched voice!)
- Hoelderlin "Traum" (their first psych-folk-prog album, featuring some heavenly vocals) - Earth and Fire (Not totally unlike the rich tone of Grace Slick)
np: Olivier Bloch-Laine "Des mots" (This guy also have a very appealing voice) Ludwig Dube
Michael Bonetsmueller <bone...@hrzpub.tu-darmstadt.de> writes:
Thank you all!
I didn't expect such an overwhelming response.
I make my list and carry it to the local CD stores just to hear them say: "Well, brother, we don't have this kind of music, we have to order it. And when you order it, you have to buy it, because we can't sell this stuff around here. No listen before you buy, this time!"
Ah, it's a nightmare. I live in a smallish german town which is nearly a prog desert. Here, the best stuff is find in the 5 DM ($2) bin.
Anyway, the next time I've got the opportunity to buy GOOD Cds, the list of your recommendations will be with me.
Thanks again!
BTW: I tried to make a follow-up once, but I pushed the wrong button and did a private reply to some innocent fellow prog-fan out there. Whoever it is I bothered with a private mail pretty similar to this post, please accept my apologies.
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> > Oh, I forgot to mention Sandrose, a French progressive rock band featuring > > the soul-inflected voice of Rose Powojny (whose name I probably misspelled).
> Yeah, but Rose's voice may not be to everyone's taste. I like it now, but didn't > managed to appreciate it over the first couple of listening...
> Other nice bands featuring great female voices (that I didn't see any comments > about - maybe I missed some posts, tough)
> - Kultivator (Canterburzeuhl music, featuring very pleasing soprano voicing. Hear > it, friends!) > - Cos (The signer - forgot about her name - has some beatifull high-pitched voice!)
> - Hoelderlin "Traum" (their first psych-folk-prog album, featuring some heavenly > vocals) > - Earth and Fire (Not totally unlike the rich tone of Grace Slick)
> np: Olivier Bloch-Laine "Des mots" (This guy also have a very appealing voice) > Ludwig Dube
> While some of these may be considered more prog folk or alternative thought I would throw in the following list of females I enjoy musically:
Merrie Amsterburg animal logic nathalie archangel kate bush toni childs lauren christy the green children grey eye glances kristen hall shona laing october project maia sharp While none of these are really "hard prog" I did leave out a # of stuff that is very folky or very celtic or very R&B or pop. Andy {:-)
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Some of my favorite females in prog (and related) music:
Annie Haslam Renaissance Jane Relf original Renaissance, Illusion Jenny Haan: Babe Ruth Siouxie Sioux: Siouxie & the Banshees Sonja Kristina: Curved Air Annette Peacock: solo and w/others like Bruford Gilli Smyth: Gong's immortal space whisperer Francoise Hardy: check out her '96 album "Le Danger" Nico: the doomsday songstress Laurie Anderson: great voice plus powerful wit
Outside of prog & rock, I'd have to say my favorite singers in pop, folk, classical etc... would be:
Dusty Springfield, Karen Carpenter, Patty Loveless, Reba McEntire, Joan Armatrading, Dawn Upshaw, Cathy Berberian, Chrissie Hynde, Bonnie Raitt and a few others which don't immediately come to mind.
On 10 Jan 1999 06:07:31 GMT, neither rain nor snow nor gloom of night kept alspac...@aol.com (Alspachse) writing:
>Another female voice that I find intriguing is Mary Fahl for October Project. >That band released two albums on Epic, and I love 'em both. Mary Fahl sounds a >bit like Christine McVie but with more power behind her voice. And for those >who like harmonies, Marina Belica added some really nice harmonies. I'm not >sure I'd call October Project progressive, but they were a bit hard to >catalogue or label, which is probably why Epic did a p-poor job of promoting >that band. Try their first album (self-titled) - the people I've recommended >this group toseem to prefer the first, although I will add that these same >people have been taken very much by this band.
I second that, although I actually think the second album "Falling Farther In" is stronger overall-maybe because it has my favorite OP song "Deep as you Go"
Russell
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> Michael Bonetsmueller <bone...@hrzpub.tu-darmstadt.de> writes:
> Thank you all!
> I didn't expect such an overwhelming response.
> I make my list and carry it to the local CD stores just to hear them > say: "Well, brother, we don't have this kind of music, we have to order > it. And when you order it, you have to buy it, because we can't sell > this stuff around here. No listen before you buy, this time!"
> Ah, it's a nightmare. I live in a smallish german town which is nearly > a prog desert. Here, the best stuff is find in the 5 DM ($2) bin.
> Anyway, the next time I've got the opportunity to buy GOOD Cds, the > list of your recommendations will be with me.
Schimmelh...@my-dejanews.com wrote: > In article <3698D56A.A8E1A...@Enter-Net.com>, > Ludwig Dube <ludwig.mich...@Enter-Net.com> wrote:
> > > Oh, I forgot to mention Sandrose, a French progressive rock band featuring > > > the soul-inflected voice of Rose Powojny (whose name I probably misspelled).
> > Yeah, but Rose's voice may not be to everyone's taste. I like it now, but didn't > > managed to appreciate it over the first couple of listening...
> > Other nice bands featuring great female voices (that I didn't see any comments > > about - maybe I missed some posts, tough)
> > - Kultivator (Canterburzeuhl music, featuring very pleasing soprano voicing. Hear > > it, friends!) > > - Cos (The signer - forgot about her name - has some beatifull high-pitched voice!)
> > - Hoelderlin "Traum" (their first psych-folk-prog album, featuring some heavenly > > vocals) > > - Earth and Fire (Not totally unlike the rich tone of Grace Slick)
> > np: Olivier Bloch-Laine "Des mots" (This guy also have a very appealing voice) > > Ludwig Dube
> > While some of these may be considered more prog folk or alternative thought I would throw in the following list of females I enjoy musically:
> Merrie Amsterburg, animal logic, nathalie archangel, kate bush, toni childs, > lauren christy, the green children, grey eye glances, kristen hall, shona laing, > october project, maia sharp, While none of these are really "hard prog" I did > leave out a # of stuff that is very folky or very celtic or very R&B or pop. > Andy {:-)
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Andy {:-)
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Dgasque wrote: >Since you've brought up a couple of "new wave" divas in Siouxsie and Nina, I >feel safe in bringing up Debra Iyall of Romeo Void. Their first LP, _It's a >Condition_ was fairly atypical of the West Coast new wave era of the 80's- >very >moody at times yet jazzy at others. This LP was definitely one of the more >progressive LPs to come out of the scene.
They got a lot of airplay round these parts, because they were from S.F. Iyall struck me as a sort of new-wave Mae West. ;-{)> And if we're gonna talk about Nina Hagen, we ought to also mention her American counterpart, Lene Lovich, whose first two albums were landmarks in "new-wave" rock. _No Man's Land_ was, for the most part, a disappointment, but her take on the Meteors' "It's You, Only You (Mein Schmerz)" is one of her best songs (and a prog connection, two Meteors were ex-members of Alquin). And so long as we're talking about eccentric female vocalists, I might as well mention the godmother of them all, Peruvian vocalist Yma Sumac, even though she isn't rock (though she did make an excellent, but impossible to find, rock album called _Miracles_, which has something of a proggy feel to it). And since this is RMP, I would be remiss if I did not mention Mauricia Platon (of Zao) and Pascale Son (of Cos), who basically appropriated Sumac's vocal style to prog. And did a damned fine job of it, I might add (I highly recommend Zao's _Z=7L_ and Cos' _Postaeolian Train Robbery_).
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>>So: Where can I find exciting female prog singers?
I will have to recommend the early Catherine Ribeiro + Alpes. This group played French folk progressive music and Ribeiro's voice is strong and powerful, and soars, at times, angelically.
>can you recommend female singers with an interesting voice?
>My idea of an interesting female voice is not a catholic school choir >voice like Annie Haslam's, but a female equivalent of Peter Hammill or >the like. [...] >The female voices I like can be found outside the canonical Prog:
>- Janis Joplin (check the laughter after Mercedes Benz - it is hair >raising to me),
>- Patty Smith (not necessarily a good singer, but very expressive!)
>- Inga Rumpf that sang with the german band 'Frumpy'. She sounds like >Janis Joplin with a sore throat...
>- Kate Bush: She proofs that a high, clear voice can indeed be >interesting and expressive. 'The Dreaming' is IMHO a VERY progressive >album.
>Two criterias for 'interesting' female voices could be:
>- expressive voices, voices that are capable to transport feelings. >- 'unpure' voices, voices have a certain erotic touch.
>Interestingly, very interesting voices can be found in the billboard >charts. Voices with volume, expression, everything. Unfortunately, the >ladies prefer to sing uninspired pop.
>So: Where can I find exciting female prog singers?
This must be one of the easiest questions on the newsgroup to answer in quite a while. There is one voice that you clearly need to hear right away: Dagmar Krause.
I'd suggest starting with the Art Bears (Krause + Fred Frith and Chris Cutler in a post-Henry Cow band) or Slapp Happy (Krause with Peter Blegvad and Anthony Moore). -- Henry
In article <777rvr$...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, "Tadashi Nagasaka" <Tadashi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Janita Haan from Babe Ruth. Her singing style is more like strong rock >style. They played Zappa's King Kong in their 1st album, "First Base". I >like all 3 albums. (is there any others?) Her shout sometimes, reminds me o= >f >Janis, too.
Those four plus First Base means that there are at least five. (I'm surprised to see I don't have a copy of First Base. Must never have bought it, assuming I already had it.)
Ellie Hope replaced Jenny Hahn (not very successfully) on Kid's stuff.
Greg Ioannou wrote in message <77bnnt$ca...@news.interlog.com>... >In article <777rvr$...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, "Tadashi Nagasaka" <Tadashi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>Janita Haan from Babe Ruth. Her singing style is more like strong rock >>style. They played Zappa's King Kong in their 1st album, "First Base". I >>like all 3 albums. (is there any others?) Her shout sometimes, reminds me o= >>f >>Janis, too.
>Those four plus First Base means that there are at least five. (I'm surprised >to see I don't have a copy of First Base. Must never have bought it, assuming >I already had it.)
>Ellie Hope replaced Jenny Hahn (not very successfully) on Kid's stuff.
Someone may have mentioned this as I haven't been following this thread, but Joanne Hogg of Iona consistently wins society awards as the best female prog singer.... and deserves it. Iona are awesome.
minnauska wrote in message <77c6ad$b1...@ash.prod.itd.earthlink.net>...
>SkyHarmony wrote in message ><19990109090939.05622.00005...@ng-ch1.aol.com>... >>>So: Where can I find exciting female prog singers?
>I will have to recommend the early Catherine Ribeiro + Alpes. This group >played French folk progressive music and Ribeiro's voice is strong and >powerful, and soars, at times, angelically.
Well, first of all there's Paula Cole, back ground vocals during Peter Gabriels Secret World and she made two fabulous albums "Harbinger" and "this Fire" Great !!
The other singer that should be mentioned is Judie Tzuke; that girl makes/made (I don't know if she is still active in the music business ...) pure progressive rock !! I know she made a few albums but I have only her greatest hits album ..
>My idea of an interesting female voice is not a catholic school choir >>voice like Annie Haslam's, but a female equivalent of Peter Hammill or >>the like.
That's spelled "A M Y D E N I O". And she can be heard to best effect on the excellent Curlew disc "A Beautiful Western Saddle".
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>>My idea of an interesting female voice is not a catholic school choir >>>voice like Annie Haslam's, but a female equivalent of Peter Hammill or >>>the like.
>That's spelled "A M Y D E N I O". And she can be heard to best effect on the >excellent Curlew disc "A Beautiful Western Saddle".
Good album. Even better Denio, IMO, is the (EC) Nudes album.
> The other singer that should be mentioned is Judie Tzuke; that girl makes/made (I > don't know if she is still active in the music business ...) pure progressive rock > !!
> Dirk > --
She certainly is, ! Her latest album is available only through the Internet. Bob Harris has played several trackes on his BBC Radio 2 show and it sounds even better than the previous albums to me. She has joined the growing number of artists who have enough of being messed around and generally abused by record companies. You should be able to find her website easily enough. I think her own label is called something like Moonstone or something very similar. - Neil.
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>can you recommend female singers with an interesting voice?
>My idea of an interesting female voice is not a catholic school choir >voice like Annie Haslam's, but a female equivalent of Peter Hammill or >the like.
>Don't get me wrong: I can understand people who like Annie Haslam, but >her (and some other's) voice is too 'pure', 'sweet', 'innocent' to >me. I don't like 'fairy whispers' as Lorena McWhatsHerName's, too. All >in all, too saccharine(sp?).
>Much to often, these voices lack expression.
>The female voices I like can be found outside the canonical Prog:
>- Janis Joplin (check the laughter after Mercedes Benz - it is hair >raising to me),
>- Patty Smith (not necessarily a good singer, but very expressive!)
>- Inga Rumpf that sang with the german band 'Frumpy'. She sounds like >Janis Joplin with a sore throat...
>- Kate Bush: She proofs that a high, clear voice can indeed be >interesting and expressive. 'The Dreaming' is IMHO a VERY progressive >album.
>Two criterias for 'interesting' female voices could be:
>- expressive voices, voices that are capable to transport feelings. >- 'unpure' voices, voices have a certain erotic touch.
>Interestingly, very interesting voices can be found in the billboard >charts. Voices with volume, expression, everything. Unfortunately, the >ladies prefer to sing uninspired pop.
>So: Where can I find exciting female prog singers?
>I am looking forward to your suggestions!
>Best wishes,
>Michael.
>-- >Michael Bonetsmüller The least we can do is wave to each other >bone...@hrzpub.tu-darmstadt.de -- Van der Graaf
> >SkyHarmony wrote in message > ><19990109090939.05622.00005...@ng-ch1.aol.com>... > >>>So: Where can I find exciting female prog singers?
(I thought I had sent this yesterday but it seems to have vanished.. apologies if you get it twice !) I just wanted to mention the female vocalist with the German band Carol of Harvest who made their only album (same title) in the late Seventies. IIRC her name was Beate Krause or something very similar. Well worth investigating if you are into a prog-folk groove. Lovely long tracks and everything, vocally and instrumentally, hits the right spot. Anyone know of a CD release ? (I only know of an LP reissue a few years back done by the band themselves). - Neil
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