Want to discover more LITTLE FEAT?
Jack Stanley
night. An incredible band that is amazingly not known by as many
people as they should.
For those looking to hear the evolution of the band from 1971 through
to 1977's live performances that made Waiting For Columbus, you can
click here:
hoy hoy :)
Olompali4
I once emailed Paul Barrere citing LF as more pronounced influence on
the Phish sound than the GD.
He dug that.
Still, Phish pales compared to Lil' Feat.
It's the singing and the songs..not just the guitar.
3jane.
How sweet is it that the hottest band around right now just covered
one of the great live albums of all time? I was at the WFC Lisner
Auditorium shows in 1976 and I sure wish I was in Atlantic City last
night.
Ray O'Hara
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if I never hear Dixie Chicken again it will be too soon.
dr.narcolepsy
Is there a lot more to these songs than being fun, quality, rocking
tunes? Seems *perfect* for the Phish Musical Costume segment, to
me . . . I mean, we're not asking Trey to channel Jerry in "China
Doll," here. I've got last night's show sitting at home, that Taylor
Caine dude is one dedicated Mike Foxtrot - didn't have time, this
morning, to burn the 'Waiting For Columbus' segment to have in the
jeep, today, but it'll be fun to play it, tonight!
marcman
> Still, Phish pales compared to Lil' Feat.
> It's the singing and the songs..not just the guitar.
Have you listened to the tapes from last night's show yet?
You might want to do that, before opining as to how badly Phish may
have or may not have botched the vocals.
If yould like the show for free, really good quality AUDs can be found
at phishshows.com (I'd look for taper420's copy)
If you'd like the show in perfect matrix mixed SBD quality, go here:
livephish.com 9.95 for 256kps mp3s or 12.95 for FLACS
Of course the usual suspected places probably have the SBDs available
for DL for free, but I don't play that game, so I can't help you with
that.
dr.narcolepsy
bt.etree.org has busmans and schoeps up.
SteveO
of Lowell George from Zappa and the Mothers, but that's about it.
Without having the chance yet to listen to the original record and
having no preconceived notion of what it was meant to sound like, I
can say that it was a lot of fun, and, at least where I was sitting,
it was very well received. The music was very much in the vein of
Phish and you could certainly hear the influence of the Mothers. In
some ways, it fills a missing link between modern jazz/Zappa/et cetera
and straight ahead rock and roll.
Bottom line was that it was a great time. Going in to the show, I
wanted to hear something I knew, but now I'm glad it wasn't. I
couldn't critic it from and insider's perspective. I only had to
listen and judge on the spot whether or not I liked it.
-Steve O.
Olompali4
> On Nov 1, 1:48 pm, Olompali4 <olompa...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Still, Phish pales compared to Lil' Feat.
> > It's the singing and the songs..not just the guitar.
>
> Have you listened to the tapes from last night's show yet?
>
> You might want to do that, before opining as to how badly Phish may
> have or may not have botched the vocals.
>
Yeah..uh ya' see I wasn't comparing one particular night to Litlle
Feat..I was comparing the two bands and their catalogs of song. and
the ability to sing.
Phish is dorky bop
Feat's got grit.
I can dig Phish in concert but as far as anywhere else forget it. Very
poor out of context (except that guitar)
Feat sounds good pretty much anywhere.
Btw, I've seen Feat w/Lowell and I've seen Phish ca. 91-98
I'll be boogin' my speakers away many times more than I'll ever jiboo.
Get used to it.
Get over it.
Get real.
dr.narcolepsy
> I'll be boogin' my speakers
*Ewww.*
marcman
> Btw, I've seen Feat w/Lowell and I've seen Phish ca. 91-98
> I'll be boogin' my speakers away many times more than I'll ever jiboo.
I like that! :)
Olompali4
> On Nov 1, 3:19 pm, Olompali4 <olompa...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> *Ewww.*
Er...Trip Face Boogie lyric
A cool tune by Little Feat.
Guess ya' didn't catch that.
dr.narcolepsy
No, I know *tripe* face, the thing is, you didn't say "boogyin'" - you
said "boogin'" - and *that's* why I said *Ewww.*
Olompali4
nitpicking?
Well then, I didn't "say" anything. I typed.
dr.narcolepsy
Give 'em books and they eat 'em.
devilphish
Nice job taking a funny joke, then totally screwing it up by fixing
the original typo on which the joke was riff'in, then taking offense
and going on the offensive.
Lighten up, Francis!
devilphish
marcman
http://www.jambands.com/news/2010/11/01/phish-covers-little-feat-s-waiting-for-columbus
As previously reported, Phish covered Little Feat’s 1978 live album
Waiting for Columbus in its entirety last night at Atlantic City’s
Boardwalk Hall. The seminal release—which is also Little Feat’s most
successful album—marks the first time Phish has covered a live album
on Halloween. Like Phish’s Halloween shows in 1996, 1998 and 2009, the
evening’s musical costume was revealed to fans via an official
Phishbill program as they entered the venue. In a Phishbill essay
written by David Fricke, the members of Phish admit that they hoped to
recreate the experience of a classic Little Feat concert rather than
cover the live album note-for-note.
Fricke’s essay emphasizes the importance Little Feat had on the
members of Phish individually before the band’s formation, as well as
during its early years. “We may have learned more from Little Feat
than any other band,” Trey Anastasio says. Mike Gordon adds of the
band’s early days, “I liked that Trey’s originals were getting
strange, but I said I wanted to balace it with some gutsy bluesy
music. And the example I gave was, ‘I’d like to play a Little Feat
song from time to time.” Phish regularly covered Little Feat’s “Skin
it Back,” “Time Loves a Hero” and the group’s arrangement of Allen
Toussaint’s “On Your Way Down” during its early years. The members of
Phish revived both “Time Loves a Hero” and “On Your Way Down” in the
late ‘90s.
Like Phish’s other official Halloween Costumes, Waiting for Columbus
feels inline with the band’s current sound. Little Feat shares a
similar DNA with early Phish—a mixture of jazz, rock and roll country,
New Orleans boogie and blues. The group also has a direct connection
from one of Phish’s earliest influences, Frank Zappa, via the band’s
roots in the Mothers of Invention. As Phish actively digs into its own
back cataloge and relearns of many of its earliest songs, it makes
sense that the band opted to play one of its original inspirations.
Phish’s current more refined, shortened improvisational style also
recalls Little Feat’s refined, song-driven, boogie style of rock
jamming.
In addition to faithful rendition of classic Waiting for Columbus
numbers like “Oh Atlanta,” “Spanish Moon” and the aforementioned “Time
Loves A Hero,” Phish made its own imprint on several of the double
album’s songs. The band switched instruments on “Willin’,” with Page
McConnell picking up the bass, Mike Gordon moving to piano, Trey
Anastasio playing drums and Jon Fishman singing lead vocals. The four
musicians then moved to the front of the stage for an a cappella
arrangement of “Don’t Bogart That Joint.” In addition, the band took
the stage to a recorded version of “Join the Band” while Higher Ground
club owner Kevin Statesir introduced Phish as Little Feat. Recalling
the secret language of Phish’s early ‘90s period, audience remembers
were instructed to shout the letters “P,” “H,” “I,” “S” and “H” as
Statesir shouted the letters “F,” “E,” “A” and “T.”
Throughout most of the set, the members of Phish were backed by
percussionist Giovanni Hidalgo. The noted Latin jazz musicians has
performed with the likes of Dizzy Gillespie, Paul Simon, Sammy Hagar
and Mickey Hart, among many others. A horn section featuring members
of the interconnected collectives Antibalas (Aaron Johnson, Stuart
Bogie, Eric Biondo) and the Dap-Kings (Michael Leonhart, Ian
Hendrickson) also augmented the band at various points throughout the
night. Phish also utilized members of the Dap-Kings on Halloween last
October.
Phish’s other two sets also contained numerous highlights. The band
opened with a Halloween-themed sequence featuring “Frankenstein,” “Big
Black Furry Creature from Mars,” “Ghost” and the first cover of
“Spooky” since 1993 (Phish also opened its 1994 Halloween show with
“Frankenstein). The band’s third set also featured an extended “Gotta
Jibboo,” “Camel Walk” and a lengthy “You Enjoy Myself.” Hidalgo and
the five-person horn section returned for the lone encore of
“Julius.”
Here’s a look at the setlist via Phish.net
Sun, 10/31/2010 Atlantic City Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, NJ
Set 1: Frankenstein1, Big Black Furry Creature from Mars, Ghost ->
Spooky, The Divided Sky, Roses Are Free > Funky Bitch, Boogie On
Reggae Woman, Stash, Character Zero
Set 2: Fat Man in the Bathtub2, All That You Dream2, Oh Atlanta2, Old
Folks Boogie3, Time Loves a Hero4 -> Day or Night3, Mercenary
Territory3, Spanish Moon3, Dixie Chicken3 -> Tripe Face Boogie2,
Rocket in My Pocket3, Willin’[5], Don’t Bogart That Joint6, A
Apolitical Blues2, Sailin’ Shoes2, Feats Don’t Fail Me Now3
Set 3: Down with Disease > Back on the Train > Gotta Jibboo, Camel
Walk, Suzy Greenberg, Wilson > Harry Hood > The Horse > Silent in the
Morning, You Enjoy Myself
Encore: Julius4
[1] Page on keytar
[2] Phish debut; Giovanni Hidalgo on percussion
[3] Phish debut; Giovanni Hidalgo on percussion and Aaron Johnson,
Stuart Bogie, Ian Hendrickson, Michael Leonhart and Eric Biondo on
horns.
[4] Giovanni Hidalgo on percussion and Aaron Johnson, Stuart Bogie,
Ian Hendrickson, Michael Leonhart and Eric Biondo on horns.
[5] Phish debut; Page on bass, Mike on piano, Trey on drums and Fish
on vocals.
[6] Phish debut; A cappella
Notes: Page performed Frankenstein on keytar. Spooky was performed for
the first time since 4/14/93 (751 shows). The second set “musical
costume” was Little Feat’s 1978 Waiting for Columbus. Join the Band
(the first track of Waiting for Columbus) was played over the PA
before the start of the second set. Subsequently, Phish was introduced
as “Little Feat” before Fat Man in the Bathtub. All of the songs in
the second set other than Time Loves a Hero were Phish debuts. All of
the songs in the second set, other than Don’t Bogart That Joint and
Willin’, featured Giovanni Hidalgo on percussion. A five piece horn
section consisting of Aaron Johnson, Stuart Bogie, Ian Hendrickson,
Michael Leonhart and Eric Biondo joined the band for Old Folks Boogie,
Time Loves a Hero, Day or Night, Mercenary Territory, Spanish Moon,
Dixie Chicken, Rocket in My Pocket and Feats Don’t Fail Me Now.
Willin’ featured Page on bass, Mike on piano, Trey on drums and Fish
on vocals. Prior to the piano solo at the beginning of Willin’, Fish
remarked, “That should be Paul Barrère.” Don’t Bogart That Joint was
performed a cappella. Trey introduced the guest musicians before Feats
Don’t Fail Me Now. At the conclusion of the second set, the entire
band marched the perimeter of the floor. Disease was initially botched
and had to be restarted, prompting Fish to declare, “This one’s off
our album.” Julius featured Giovanni Hidalgo and the Waiting for
Columbus horn section.
Junt...@verizon.net
albums.Lowell was awesome and I also had the pleasure of seeing LF and
how can you even compare them.Phish picks good albums to replicate I'll
give em that.G
The Lord of Eltingville
> On Nov 1, 1:48 pm, Olompali4<olompa...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Still, Phish pales compared to Lil' Feat.
>> It's the singing and the songs..not just the guitar.
>
> Have you listened to the tapes from last night's show yet?
>
> You might want to do that, before opining as to how badly Phish may
> have or may not have botched the vocals.
>
> If yould like the show for free, really good quality AUDs can be found
> at phishshows.com (I'd look for taper420's copy)
>
> If you'd like the show in perfect matrix mixed SBD quality, go here:
> livephish.com 9.95 for 256kps mp3s or 12.95 for FLACS
I grabbed a set after reading a review from RI's Finest earlier today. I
haven't had a chance to listen to it yet. Perhaps later tonight.
dr.narcolepsy
> If yould like the show for free, really good quality AUDs can be found
> at phishshows.com (I'd look for taper420's copy)
Thanks for mentioning this site, never knew about. Or else I forgot
about it.
http://www.phishows.com/
Sweetbac
"SteveO" <sog...@berklee.net> wrote in message
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> I'll admit, I knew nothing of Little Feat before last night. I knew
> of Lowell George from Zappa and the Mothers, but that's about it.
> The music was very much in the vein of
> Phish and you could certainly hear the influence of the Mothers. In
> some ways, it fills a missing link between modern jazz/Zappa/et cetera
> and straight ahead rock and roll.
> -Steve O.
Good lord....you hear Zappa in Little Feat?
I think you heard a Zappa influence in Phish....
Those clowns aren't exactly breaking any new ground.
I wonder how many kids last nite had no idea what album
Phish were covering?
Did they break out the trampoline during "Dixie Chicken"?
I'll bet Lowell G spun around in his grave a few times last nite.
marcman
Steve, don't mind Sweets here, he's old, crotchety, lonely and hasn't
listened to any new music since Bing Crosby.
Hey Sweets, here's the thing about Phish . . . you're constantly
trying to (negatively) compare them to other artists/bands . . .
that's your mistake ya see, Phish ain't the best at what they do,
they're the *only* ones that do what they do . . .
Oh man, ya gotta love it when a thread is cross posted to RMGD/
RMP!!! :)
SteveO
Yeah, I did hear some Zappa in there. Plays against time, much in the
way Zappa used to; some, not breakdowns, but, while playing with time
and structure, two or four bars of orchestrated chaos with no back
beat, resolving on the one of a new eight bars (much like Mingus'
"collective improvisations," though those usually didn't resolve on
one); some interesting time signatures. While in no way exclusive to
Zappa, I could hear the influence.
As I prefaced, I went into this blind, only knowing of Lowell George
from Weasels Ripped My Flesh. I still haven't listened to Waiting for
Columbus and haven't listened over last night's show. My first
impressions: take them or leave them. Like I mentioned, I know of
Phish's more sophisticated influences and those that are straight
ahead rock. This filled a gap for me.
Phish isn't perfect, far from it, but they beat the hell out of the
vast majority of rock acts touring in recent years.
If Phish are clowns and they seem to insult you, why listen?
Fuck off,
Steve O.
P.S. It is not "nite," it is "night."
marcman
Steve, that's the thing . . . he *doesn't* listen! He just likes to
read what he writes. Oh sorry, that's right, he did say that he
listened once, back in 1992 I think it was . . . ::sigh::
Sweetbac
"Steve,OH!" <sog...@berklee.net> failed in message
> Yeah, I did hear some Zappa in there. Plays against time, much in the
> way Zappa used to; some, not breakdowns, but, while playing with time
> and structure, two or four bars of orchestrated chaos with no back
> beat, resolving on the one of a new eight bars (much like Mingus'
> "collective improvisations," though those usually didn't resolve on
> one); some interesting time signatures. While in no way exclusive to
> Zappa, I could hear the influence.
Oh my GOODness...dont try and get all academic on us, MF'er!....
MINGUS!...<LOL>...you best quit this shit before I have to drop
some game on ya ass, Junior!
> If Phish are clowns and they seem to insult you, why listen?
> Fuck off,
> Steve, OH!
I DONT listen to Phish...I TRIED!...many times...
Now run along...I've wasted enough time on someone who
attended a couple weeks of "Jazz Studies" classes in community college!
Dave
Then why do you bother coming into this discussion? Is it because you
used to get your ass beat in school and now you have a chip on your
shoulder? We'll all be glad to sit back and listen while you bawl on
about Little Feat when we all know that you're really misdirecting the
pent up emotion from a life where your mother didn't love you and you
had an uncle that used to get too close.
I don't think anyone in here (excpet for you and one other moron who
likes to hear himself rattle the keys, olompila or whatever)... tried
to compare Phish to Little Feat. We know Phish was influenced by them--
but they were inspired by a lot of people whose influence might not be
apparent right up front. Beyond that, who gives a fuck? They did a
good job with the album, I was there to hear it and beyond that I am a
big Little Feat fan (don't worry I would never claim to be as big a
fan as you are, that throne is set aside for you and your pencil-
prick). The bottom line SHOULD be this.... #1 Phish played the album
well, #2 Phish did not come out on stage and say "Hey we're going to
do this better than Little Feat so fasten your seatbelts Atlantic
City!" #3 Nobody cares how well Little Feat played it---this
discussion is about last night. Now, go make an appointment with your
therapist, do some meditating, jerk off or whatever other things you
might do to relax.
---Dave
SteveO
> I DONT listen to Phish...I TRIED!...many times...
> Now run along...I've wasted enough time on someone who
> attended a couple weeks of "Jazz Studies" classes in community college!
If you want a conversation about any aspect of music, modern or
otherwise, we can do that in private. Otherwise, leave this usually
casual and extraordinarily friendly group alone.
Marcman, you are correct!
-Steve O.
marcman
Hey now!!! Olompali is good people!!!!!! Most definitely *not* a
moron, in my humble opinion!
> tried
> to compare Phish to Little Feat. We know Phish was influenced by them--
> but they were inspired by a lot of people whose influence might not be
> apparent right up front. Beyond that, who gives a fuck? They did a
> good job with the album, I was there to hear it and beyond that I am a
> big Little Feat fan (don't worry I would never claim to be as big a
> fan as you are, that throne is set aside for you and your pencil-
> prick). The bottom line SHOULD be this.... #1 Phish played the album
> well, #2 Phish did not come out on stage and say "Hey we're going to
> do this better than Little Feat so fasten your seatbelts Atlantic
> City!" #3 Nobody cares how well Little Feat played it---this
> discussion is about last night. Now, go make an appointment with your
> therapist, do some meditating, jerk off or whatever other things you
> might do to relax.
>
Sweets like to relax with some stolen beer from the convenience store
and some illegally downloaded music.
> ---Dave
marcman
Steve, with respect to Sweets, he didn't barge into the group, the OP
in the thread decided to x-post to both RMP and RMGD. Sweets wouldn't
be caught dead (no pun intended) in RMP, not on purpose, anyway.
Gladys
>
> Yeah, I did hear some Zappa in there.
>
Zappa kicked George out of the band. Varying reasons abound - but the
one I like is that after playing "Willin" to Zappa Frank told Lowell he
needed to go form his own group because he was too good. Other recounts
of the incident say that it was because the song had drug references.
I've seen them both a few times and I think that overall it was a good
thing they went their own separate ways. I don't hear much Zappa in
Little Feat's music - and if it is there, I'm guessing it was accidental
at best. But I guess that's what influence is all about.
Anyone who has seen vintage Little Feat knows that even though George
was a great song writer and a decent slide guitar player, the band was
truly a sum of it's parts. I suggest seeking out the video "Skin It
Back" taken from a 1977 Rockpalast show. There are things happening
there that might surprise a lot of Little Feat fans too. :-)
I'd like to hear Phish cover Jeff Beck's "Blow By Blow" or "Wired".
Gladys.
marcman
Another excellent site with an immense catalog of free live Phish DLs
is commonly referred to as the spreadsheet.
It can be found here:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p8WKkpP-TKpO1VnQgcff6EQ&gid=7
dr.narcoplepsy
I'd advise keeping the conversation public. Who knows? You may
provide enlightenment for someone. More importantly, it'll be safer.
Two things go in to Sweets' basement efficiency - young men for
private conversations and bottles of Chianti. All that ever comes out
are empty bottles.
3jane.
That whole 1977 Feat Rockpalast TV show is one of the high points of
western civilization. Also a testament to the power of cocaine I
suspect but whatever it is, the band is on fire.
Randy G
> Those clowns aren't exactly breaking any new ground.
> I wonder how many kids last nite had no idea what album
> Phish were covering?
I tried quite a few times too, but never liked what I heard. Hard to
get by the silly lyrics, like Zappa was too.
I heard 12-31-95 is a good intro to them, is that true?
If I would have been there (fat chance unless the ticket was free), I
wouldn't have known LF either. I saw them warm up for the Dead at
Oxford Plains and that was enough for me.
marcman
Relix article from 1979 - Interview with Billy Payne of Little Feat on
thier decision to release Waiting For Columbus
======
Little Feat Reflects on Waiting for Columbus : Relix Revisited (1979)
This February 1979 article checks in on Little Feat following the
release of Waiting for Columbus
Those who know of Little Feat will swear by them. Superlatives will
spew forth from the mouths of their ardent fans, and critics will
argue over whether there’s a band that can match them. Yet, Little
Feat is a heard-of band. And it is only recently that their audience
has begun to include members of the general rock population, instead
of just the Feat-fanatics who’ve kept the band going through their
long and hard nine year struggle for recognition.
“Yeah, to quote the great master,” says Feat keyboardist Bill Payne
before a show at Passaic, New Jersey’s Capitol Theatre, “it’s been
wild and crazy. This tour especially has been really nuts. I’ve never
known our audience to be quite as vocal as they are now. And it’s good
for us,” he explains, while staring out his hotel window at New York
City in the distance, “because you get jaded after years of touring
places like Chicago and Detroit, where we have pockets of fans. But
when you start selling out in places like, not necessarily Passaic,
but like Millersville, Pennsylvania, now that’s gratifying.”
Payne attributes the growth of Little Feat’s popularity to the fact
that the band is now constantly touring. “I think we’ve had ample
opportunity in the past nine years to do a little more touring. There
are people who argue with me that touring doesn’t add that much to
success, and I would agree that if you’re Steely Dan and you’ve had
ten hit records to your name, you might not have to tour. But in our
case touring is very important because it’s always been a grass roots
growth until recently. This band is a playing type of band. We just
sound better live than we do on records.”
Going on that sentiment, it would seem obvious that a live Little Feat
album would be a wise move, and sure enough, the Feat’s most recent
LP, Waiting For Columbus, is the band’s best-selling to date. Columbus
captures if not the actual feeling of being at a Little Feat concert,
the versatility of their live performance. But there was another
reason for releasing the live Little Feat record, and that was to stop
the endless flow of Feat bootleg albums which the band feels have cut
down on sales of their legitimate albums.
While the bootleg situation might not hurt a platinum-selling artist
like the Rolling Stones or Bob Dylan, it can do severe damage to a
band like the Feat, which needs every royalty check it can get. Payne
says he doesn’t know of any exact statistics, but the band figures
that putting out an official live album must have helped to control
the problem somewhat. “I don’t know how much it really hurts sales,”
Payne says, “because Little Feat fans are fanatics who will buy
anything that comes out. But we’re not allowing it to happen anymore.
For instance, a radio station in New York wanted to do a live
broadcast of the Capitol show. It might have helped us because more
people would hear us, but we couldn’t do it because it would probably
be bootlegged.” Payne says the bootleg mania began because of the
persistent rumors that the band was breaking up. “People kept thinking
that this may be the last time we ever see these guys,” he says, and
for that reason the tape fiends felt a compulsion to capture the
performance for posterity.
Part of the Little Feat mystique revolves around the band’s very
ability to disappear from the public eye for long stretches of time,
only to bounce around again as a more unified organization and a
hotter concert item. Payne says that much of the reason their audience
grows steadily is due to the fans’ fear that if they don’t catch the
band now, they might never get the chance.
“Yeah, that’s a claim to fame for us all right,” Payne laughs, “that
we broke up again. What happened to us was that we’d put out one
record a year, tour the states for a month, and disappear for eight
months. But you can’t just disappear for eight months like that,
because the real key to success for us is being visual. It’s just
taken some of us a while longer than the others to realize that we’re
no longer young kids out for a lark. But people seem to like what
we’re doing, so it can only get better.”
Lately, things have not only gotten better for Little Feat, but the
band’s individual members have been more active than at any time in
recent memory. Payne, for one, is one of the most requested studio
musicians on the west coast. He recently finished work on the new
Doobie Brothers album, Minute By Minute, and also pitched in on the
critically-acclaimed debut LP by Nicolette Larson. Lowell George, the
band’s ultra-talented lead guitarist and unofficial figurehead,
recently finished work on his long-awaited solo album, and spent some
time producing the Dead’s latest, Shakedown Street.
Payne finds the choice of George as producer for the Dead an amusing
notion. Asked how that came about, he shakes his head in wonderment.
“I don’t know, man,” he jokes. “I think they must have been dropping
some acid up there in Marin, and sent down some vibes that rebounded
off the pyramids and hit Lowell.” Payne says that once he tried to
reach George by phone while he was working with the Dead, and everyone
he spoke to was so spaced that they didn’t know where Lowell was, and
eventually he just hung up the phone.
Payne had his own days as a spaceman, though, in the late ‘60’s,
before there was any Little Feat to speak of. His immediate experience
previous to forming the Feat with George in 1969 was playing in a
southern California acid-rock band. “I was hanging out in Santa
Barbara,” he recalls, “and I did one record on the Psychedelic Records
label called Tripping Out. It was done by Acid-Head Productions and
the band was called Something Wild. We had this routine,” he
continues, breaking up into hysterics, “where we held a mike in front
of an amp and swirling mikes and feeding back was in the old days, but
the Feat are resigned to the life, knowing it’s their ticket to
recognition. “To tell you the truth,” Payne admits, “I was feeling
pretty comfortable sitting around Los Angeles before this tour. But, I
don’t know, I guess that experiences you get on the road you
definitely take back with you. One builds the confidence of the other
as far as I’m concerned.”
Payne also finds that the more the band tours, the more he feels at
home with the life in some ways. He says he was never able to write on
the road before, but now he’s able to get work done when he’s on tour.
“I’m starting to feel comfortable writing just about anyplace. You
have to write whenever that urge hits you, and it doesn’t hit that
often, so I just grab it when it comes.”
From the looks of it, though, the road is not all that exciting most
of the time. On this particular rainy afternoon in New Jersey, for
example, George and the Feat’s other guitarist, Paul Barrere, are
nursing colds—being checked out by the local rock ‘n’ roll doctor.
Drummer Richie Hayward finds himself locked into battle with the
hotel’s coffee shop manager over the merits of the steak he had
ordered. And both bassist Ken Gradney and percussionist Sam Clayton
are oblivious to anything beyond their intensely raging backgammon
tourney. Payne agrees that the time between gigs is often better
forgotten.
“Thankfully, we got in at 5:30 this morning,” he says. “So we can
sleep most of the day. But there’s usually not much to do. A couple of
days ago we were down in Williamsburg or Harrisonburg, or one of those
burgs in Virginia,” he says sarcastically, “and we did get to play
some golf. And, as you saw, some of the cats are into backgammon. It’s
just a floating crap game around here, that’s what it is.”
Dave
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Maybe I should look before I leap then, but so should he. :)
It just irks me when people turn a conversation into something that it
was never meant to be. You can't inject what you *think* people are
trying to say and then debate your own BS remarks. That's kind of like
punching yourself in the face and then pressing charges against your
next door neighbor even though he was away on ski vacation.
I notice that you didn't say that other guy *wasn't* a moron so I'm
batting 500. Not too bad!
-Dave
marcman
> On Nov 2, 9:00 am, Randy G <rangri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 1, 7:29 pm, "Sweetbac" <sweetb...@scbglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > > I think you heard a Zappa influence in Phish....
> > > Those clowns aren't exactly breaking any new ground.
> > > I wonder how many kids last nite had no idea what album
> > > Phish were covering?
>
> > I tried quite a few times too, but never liked what I heard. Hard to
> > get by the silly lyrics, like Zappa was too.
> > I heard 12-31-95 is a good intro to them, is that true?
>
> > If I would have been there (fat chance unless the ticket was free), I
> > wouldn't have known LF either. I saw them warm up for the Dead at
> > Oxford Plains and that was enough for me.
>
> Relix article from 1979 - Interview with Billy Payne of Little Feat on
> thier decision to release Waiting For Columbus
>
Ooops! Forgot the link:
marcman
Honestly . . . he's not a moron. I actually like him, maybe even love
him. In a non homosexual way of course, nttawwt!
Sweets can be very funny - if you "get" him. He's been around these
parts (RMGD) since I've been in diapers. If you don't "know" him he's
easy to get riled up at. If you *do* know him - he's easy to get riled
up at. But all in all, he's just, uhhh, well he's just Sweets!
3jane.
> sleep most of the day. But there’s usually not much to do. A couple of
> days ago we were down in Williamsburg or Harrisonburg, or one of those
> burgs in Virginia,” he says sarcastically, “and we did get to play
> some golf. And, as you saw, some of the cats are into backgammon. It’s
> just a floating crap game around here, that’s what it is.”
It's sobering to think that Lowell was dead not too many months after
this interview came out.
daves energyguide
Glady's, i would love to hear Phish do "blow by blow". my fav. beck
album.
iam a huge Feat fan and REALLY enjoyed the costume set. Phish may not
be your thing, but they are very fine musicians.
how about some of you RMGD'ers check out The Disco Biscuits 10/31/10
show.
LOL.
deg
Dave
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Well, it has been some years since I spent much time on RMP. I used to
be on here every day from 97 to 00 then I kind of faded out of the RMP
scene. When the boys came back for some reason I was drawn to come
back to this place again. I never spent any time on RMGD, though. I'm
a reasonable guy, I'll give him another chance... :)
But it doesn't mean I have to like it! lol
kidding of course.
I'm glad to see this shit has calmed down since last night, I hope
some people got a chuckle out of my response...
-Dave
marcman
I think (my opinion) they all did! (Except for Ken . . .)
daves energyguide
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Dave, send over a friend request, and ill add you to the RMP FB group.
name: dave's energyguide
deg
daves energyguide
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BTW if you dont like Phish because of the "goofy" lyrics, then i bet
you must think Zappa is real shit.LOL.
deg
Olompali4
Zappa's lyrics are biting social and scatological satire. Pointed and
direct.
Rarely nonsensical.
Still, I think his "humor" has dated poorly.
Imagine Tom Marshall's "insights" decades from now.
At best, they will inspire a massive.. WTF was this juvenile tripe?
Pointless drivel to get to the guitar.
And the notion that the singing and songs are a very small part of the
average Phish gig is
a complete underestimation.
They (Trey) drones (very ordinarily) quite a bit at every gig.
All this reminds one of Gomer Pyle.
The town doofus who could sing with the church choir to the utter
amazement of the farmers and moonshiners of Hicksville, USA.
"Gee these songs suck..but boy that guy can play...just you wait!"
Any wonder that YEM, Bowie and Sky are among the top favorites of
Phish kidz?
daves energyguide
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Gomer Pyle?
I thought they were calling themselves Furthur now?
deg
Gladys
> Gomer Pyle?
> I thought they were calling themselves Furthur now?
>
That's funny. Made me laugh out loud.
I don't think Phish's lyrics are simply goofy. There are other words
that come to mind. It's too bad, because they really can play. I saw a
few of their shows, but the one show of theirs that I saw that I thought
was pretty good (11/17/97) was just that - pretty good. It had a good
beat and you could dance to it. I'd give it a 6.
I'm not trying to insult anyone or anything, they are just not my
cup-o-tea. If they were playing purely instrumental sets my interest
level would go WAY up.
Gladys.
devilphish
Are those your examples of silly lyrics? Non-existant might be a
better description.
Ya wanna know why those are among the top favorites? Because they're
extended compositions and are very intricate. Because they're
"classics" in the Phish repetoire. You *want* the reason to be
because of the silly lyrics, but what the hell would you know, you're
a hater. And you're in no position to judge how much of a Phish show
is comprised of silly lyrics - ya might wanna trust someone who has
heard 1000s of hours.
Look, you've made up your mind and therefore see everything Phish
through shit-colored glasses. You're completely anti-biased.
devilphish
marcman
> YEM, Bowie and Sky are among the top favorites of
> Phish kidz?
Ya see, you come across as if you have knowledge of the subject, but
WTF man?
YEM, Bowie and Divided Sky are three of the jammiest jam vehicles in
the repetoire, what's that got to do with goofy lyrics? Are you
referring to the Washufizi section of YEM? Big deal, it's a 20 minute
song (these days) and its got less than a dozen words total.
daves energyguide
i think he is saying that the "fan favorites" are tunes w/ little or
no lyrics, thus WE as Phish fans must like it when they dont sing.
go listen to the tune "fast enough for you", "farmhouse", or "20 years
later" from the new album Joy. nothing goofy there.
BTW i was at the 11/17/97 show, if that didnt win you over, Phish is
not for you.
deg
Gladys
> BTW i was at the 11/17/97 show, if that didnt win you over, Phish is
> not for you.
I had come that conclusion independently. Kind of funky - had a really
good groove going at times. Certainly could have stood more of that type
of thing, but too many distractions - when they started jumping on the
trampolines it was a real buzz kill for me - not sure how to explain
that. Sometime or another in the 1997 time frame my attention was drawn
to SCI - now there's a band that went from fast and fun to flat out sucking.
Gladys.
3jane.
>
> I had come that conclusion independently. Kind of funky - had a really
> good groove going at times. Certainly could have stood more of that type
> of thing, but too many distractions - when they started jumping on the
> trampolines it was a real buzz kill for me - not sure how to explain
> that. Sometime or another in the 1997 time frame my attention was drawn
> to SCI - now there's a band that went from fast and fun to flat out sucking.
That's probably the most usual trajectory, aside from never being any
good in the first place.
Junt...@verizon.net
> "Steve,OH!"<sog...@berklee.net> failed in message
>
>> Yeah, I did hear some Zappa in there. Plays against time, much in the
>> way Zappa used to; some, not breakdowns, but, while playing with time
>> and structure, two or four bars of orchestrated chaos with no back
>> beat, resolving on the one of a new eight bars (much like Mingus'
>> "collective improvisations," though those usually didn't resolve on
>> one); some interesting time signatures. While in no way exclusive to
>> Zappa, I could hear the influence.
>
> Oh my GOODness...dont try and get all academic on us, MF'er!....
> MINGUS!...<LOL>...you best quit this shit before I have to drop
> some game on ya ass, Junior!
>
>
>> If Phish are clowns and they seem to insult you, why listen?
>> Fuck off,
>> Steve, OH!
>
> I DONT listen to Phish...I TRIED!...many times...
> Now run along...I've wasted enough time on someone who
> attended a couple weeks of "Jazz Studies" classes in community college!
>
>
>
Junt...@verizon.net
> used to get your ass beat in school and now you have a chip on your
> shoulder? We'll all be glad to sit back and listen while you bawl on
> about Little Feat when we all know that you're really misdirecting the
> pent up emotion from a life where your mother didn't love you and you
> had an uncle that used to get too close.
>
> I don't think anyone in here (excpet for you and one other moron who
> to compare Phish to Little Feat. We know Phish was influenced by them--
> but they were inspired by a lot of people whose influence might not be
> apparent right up front. Beyond that, who gives a fuck? They did a
> good job with the album, I was there to hear it and beyond that I am a
> big Little Feat fan (don't worry I would never claim to be as big a
> fan as you are, that throne is set aside for you and your pencil-
> prick). The bottom line SHOULD be this.... #1 Phish played the album
> well, #2 Phish did not come out on stage and say "Hey we're going to
> do this better than Little Feat so fasten your seatbelts Atlantic
> City!" #3 Nobody cares how well Little Feat played it---this
> discussion is about last night. Now, go make an appointment with your
> therapist, do some meditating, jerk off or whatever other things you
> might do to relax.
>
Nope why post Phish into a Grateful dead usenet forum,or are you waiting
for the bus.
Olompali4
deg gets it.
First we hear the defense that Phish shows are nearly all
instrumental...then we hear that
Phish are all about the doofus lyrics and bland singing.
(never mind the clown activities like secret words, cheesecake
and trampolines etc)
No matter. Elektra (corporate home of Metallica and other massive
arena rock acts)
digs Phish's show business like work ethic. Stunts make news.
And does it always have to be Fast Enough For You as the instantaneous
go to
example of a "deep" song?
Which would be a good song if it wasn''t ruined by the tone that comes
off as
completely insincere by
Trey's vocals that are utterly emotionless and ordinary.
The cat sings like he's hawking vitamins on an infomercial.
Seriously..next Halloween the musical gimmick er, costume
should be Blow by Blow/Wired by Jeff Beck.
Doubtful 85 out of a hundred kidz would dig the mindfuck.
Phish: Fun night out. Great rock guitarist.
After that..a naked emperor.
Sheesh, I'll take Warren Haynes and his
ultra nostalgic 70's blooz rock over this doofus shadowplay
At least it seems meaningful.
Olompali4
If I really cared I'd post in Phishhook or PT
)))crossposters(((
marcman
G, many, many other bands besides the GD have the floor here - you
know that. It's just that for some illogical reason, just mention the
"Ph" word and people's panties get all in a bunch.
We all preach tolerance here, well most of us, almost all of us
besides Doucheberry, so let's walk the walk or dance the dance that
what we talk . . .
marcman
> On Nov 2, 6:26 pm, daves energyguide <tweezer...@insightbb.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 2, 6:14 pm, marcman <marcmanstud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 2, 5:07 pm, Olompali4 <olompa...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > YEM, Bowie and Sky are among the top favorites of
> > > > Phish kidz?
>
> > > Ya see, you come across as if you have knowledge of the subject, but
> > > WTF man?
>
> > > YEM, Bowie and Divided Sky are three of the jammiest jam vehicles in
> > > the repetoire, what's that got to do with goofy lyrics? Are you
> > > referring to the Washufizi section of YEM? Big deal, it's a 20 minute
> > > song (these days) and its got less than a dozen words total.
>
> > i think he is saying that the "fan favorites" are tunes w/ little or
> > no lyrics, thus WE as Phish fans must like it when they dont sing.
> > go listen to the tune "fast enough for you", "farmhouse", or "20 years
> > later" from the new album Joy. nothing goofy there.
> > BTW i was at the 11/17/97 show, if that didnt win you over, Phish is
> > not for you.
>
> > deg
>
> deg gets it.
Almost never. He did this time though.
(Dude, I LOVE you!!!!! just kidding!!!!!)
> First we hear the defense that Phish shows are nearly all
> instrumental...then we hear that
> Phish are all about the doofus lyrics and bland singing.
> (never mind the clown activities like secret words, cheesecake
> and trampolines etc)
Yeah, having fun is a really horrible thing . . .
> No matter. Elektra (corporate home of Metallica and other massive
> arena rock acts)
> digs Phish's show business like work ethic. Stunts make news.
>
These guys aren't trying to make news, they're just having fun.
> And does it always have to be Fast Enough For You as the instantaneous
> go to
> example of a "deep" song?
> Which would be a good song if it wasn''t ruined by the tone that comes
> off as
> completely insincere by
> Trey's vocals that are utterly emotionless and ordinary.
To somebody that's predisposed like yourself (nothing personal, just
an observation, your predisposition ain't even a bad thing, to me
anyway, just tis what tis) that "good song" doesn't and won't ever
exist.
> The cat sings like he's hawking vitamins on an infomercial.
>
LOL!
> Seriously..next Halloween the musical gimmick er, costume
> should be Blow by Blow/Wired by Jeff Beck.
> Doubtful 85 out of a hundred kidz would dig the mindfuck.
>
What difference would it make to you? You'd never hear it . . . live
or after the fact. But you'd review it anyway, I'm sure.
> Phish: Fun night out. Great rock guitarist.
> After that..a naked emperor.
> Sheesh, I'll take Warren Haynes and his
> ultra nostalgic 70's blooz rock over this doofus shadowplay
> At least it seems meaningful.
Duuuuuuude . . . it really ain't a competition! Really! This ain;t
football, no winners, no losers . . . just music and (some, maybe more
correctly many) happy people (fans *and* band) !
What the fuck's so wrong with happy people??
marcman
You'd be eaten alive at PT.
Olompali4
>
> Yeah, having fun is a really horrible thing . . .
Wrote no such thing. Just calling a clown show a clown show.
> These guys aren't trying to make news, they're just having fun.
>
Yeah, TreyCo doesn't care about getting attention. Riiiight.
>
> What difference would it make to you? You'd never hear it . . . live
> or after the fact. But you'd review it anyway, I'm sure.
I'll never hear it? Big fan of Jeff Beck as I am of Little Feat. I'd
give it a DL.
I listened to Exile by Phlush er, I mean Phish.
That reeked. So did Quad. So did Light. So did White.
Never cared for Loaded so I passed.
> Duuuuuuude . . . it really ain't a competition! Really! This ain;t
> football, no winners, no losers . . . just music and (some, maybe more
> correctly many) happy people (fans *and* band) !
>
Tell that to my wallet when deciding for tix.
> What the fuck's so wrong with happy people??
Nothing. Some people prefer to get happy with a Scorsese film.
Others with Ren and Stimpy
Have at your joy, joy.
marcman
> On Nov 3, 7:34 am, marcman <marcmanstud...@gmail.com> wrote:>
>
>
>
> > Yeah, having fun is a really horrible thing . . .
>
> Wrote no such thing. Just calling a clown show a clown show.
Clowns make people happy. Mostly. Kennyberry's an exception . . .
>
> > These guys aren't trying to make news, they're just having fun.
>
> Yeah, TreyCo doesn't care about getting attention. Riiiight.
>
About as much as Jer' did. Which is not too much. Trey cares about
making music. Sheesh!
>
>
> > What difference would it make to you? You'd never hear it . . . live
> > or after the fact. But you'd review it anyway, I'm sure.
>
> I'll never hear it? Big fan of Jeff Beck as I am of Little Feat. I'd
> give it a DL.
> I listened to Exile by Phlush er, I mean Phish.
> That reeked. So did Quad. So did Light. So did White.
> Never cared for Loaded so I passed.
>
I didn't say (or mean) you'd never listen, I said (and meant) you'd
never hear it.
> > Duuuuuuude . . . it really ain't a competition! Really! This ain;t
> > football, no winners, no losers . . . just music and (some, maybe more
> > correctly many) happy people (fans *and* band) !
>
> Tell that to my wallet when deciding for tix.
>
I'm not counting your money and I couldn't care less (no disrespct
intended) what you spend your money on.
> > What the fuck's so wrong with happy people??
>
> Nothing. Some people prefer to get happy with a Scorsese film.
> Others with Ren and Stimpy
> Have at your joy, joy.
LOL, that's funny! :)
Olompali4
>
> You'd be eaten alive at PT.
Agreed. I wouldn't dig offering opinions to all the sk8 kidz at the
local park either.
Too er, aged.
Weird is that that the Phish band and kidz seem to come into the GD
world as well as the 70's classic rock world
rather than carving out their own time and space.
But like you said it's about music.
Most kidz don't truly dig MGMT or Flaming Lips like they do CSN&Y and
Santana.
Olompali4
>
> Clowns make people happy. Mostly.
Mostly juveniles. Others merely smile, move on.
> About as much as Jer' did. Which is not too much. Trey cares about
> making music. Sheesh!
>
Yeah that's Garcia on a trampoline playing Sabotage while Phil is
doing a meatstick shuffle
And Weir wants everyone to lie down when he says "Cheesecake" during
his song about talking dogs saving the planet
Music? This is Showbiz, baby.
> I didn't say (or mean) you'd never listen, I said (and meant) you'd
> never hear it.
>
Possibly. Hard to hear a mouse imitating a thunderstorm.at the bottom
of a canyon
marcman
I am beaten, and I know it.
At least you make me laugh while I fail. :)
Olompali4
Fail? No such thing.
Dug the chatter.
marcman
Me too, man, me too. Thanks.
OneOhEight
have fun. I never cared for the trampolines myself though. My
favorite years of Phish were 93 and 94 when the shows were just raw
and intense, with four incredibly talented musicians in their prime.
The best example of this is my favorite show from 5/8/93, that Bowie
gives me goosebumps ever single time.
devilphish
> On Nov 2, 6:26 pm, daves energyguide <tweezer...@insightbb.com> wrote:
>
>
> > On Nov 2, 6:14 pm, marcman <marcmanstud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 2, 5:07 pm, Olompali4 <olompa...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > > YEM, Bowie and Sky are among the top favorites of
> > > > Phish kidz?
>
> > > Ya see, you come across as if you have knowledge of the subject, but
> > > WTF man?
>
> > > YEM, Bowie and Divided Sky are three of the jammiest jam vehicles in
> > > the repetoire, what's that got to do with goofy lyrics? Are you
> > > referring to the Washufizi section of YEM? Big deal, it's a 20 minute
> > > song (these days) and its got less than a dozen words total.
>
> > i think he is saying that the "fan favorites" are tunes w/ little or
> > no lyrics, thus WE as Phish fans must like it when they dont sing.
> > go listen to the tune "fast enough for you", "farmhouse", or "20 years
> > later" from the new album Joy. nothing goofy there.
> > BTW i was at the 11/17/97 show, if that didnt win you over, Phish is
> > not for you.
>
> > deg
>
> deg gets it.
> First we hear the defense that Phish shows are nearly all
> instrumental.
No one ever said that, dummy. I and others said that the silly lyrics
are a very small part of the show, and you extend that to mean that
any non-silly-lyric part must be instrumental. Oh, I get it, you made
a funny, implying that they don't have any good lyrics. Hahahah, you
a funny man.
> ..then we hear that
> Phish are all about the doofus lyrics and bland singing.
Sure, we heard that from you.
> (never mind the clown activities like secret words, cheesecake
> and trampolines etc)
They did secret language once, they do trampolines for maybe 30
seconds in one particular section of YEM (all the while continuing the
quality jamming), cheesecake was a failed joke for a NYE national TV
leadin, never came up again.
> No matter. Elektra (corporate home of Metallica and other massive
> arena rock acts)
> digs Phish's show business like work ethic. Stunts make news.
Uh, OK, if you say so. When's the last time you read about a Phish
stunt in the news, even just the music news. And, BTW, Elektra don't
dig Phish, they sell records poorly.
>
> And does it always have to be Fast Enough For You as the instantaneous
> go to
> example of a "deep" song?
> Which would be a good song if it wasn''t ruined by the tone that comes
> off as
> completely insincere by
> Trey's vocals that are utterly emotionless and ordinary.
> The cat sings like he's hawking vitamins on an infomercial.
We get it, you don't like Trey's voice. Many Phisheads *do*, and
others find it fine (like me).
There are *plenty* of deep lyrics, but I ain't playin your game.
>
> Seriously..next Halloween the musical gimmick er, costume
> should be Blow by Blow/Wired by Jeff Beck.
> Doubtful 85 out of a hundred kidz would dig the mindfuck.
>
> Phish: Fun night out. Great rock guitarist.
> After that.
...great songwriting, incredible team jamming, mind-fuck dark evil
music, pure beauty. Too bed you're seeing it all through those shit-
colored glasses.
>.a naked emperor.
> Sheesh, I'll take Warren Haynes and his
> ultra nostalgic 70's blooz rock over this doofus shadowplay
> At least it seems meaningful.-
That says a lot about why you don't like Phish. Borin Haynes is a
wanker.
devilphish
OneOhEight
and I want to shoot myself whenever I hear that song Soul Shine (and
he crowbars it into every fucking show)
daves energyguide
first off i atleast give Olompali credit for actually seeing the band
live, most of the people i know who hate Phish have never given it a
chance live.
also, alot of us Phish fans are not what you call "kidz". i grew up on
70's rock. i was seeing the Grateful Dead live long before i knew what
Phish was. i bad mouthed Phish alot back then, but i never gave them a
chance. i gave them a chance in 97, and havent stopped since, seeing
over 100 shows since. i like it.
iam more than likely alot older than most of your think, i listen to
ALOT of things, i try not to put music into categories or stereotypes,
thus i go into everything w/ an open mind.
the last thing i ever want to become is old and bitter.
deg
3jane.
>
> iam more than likely alot older than most of your think, i listen to
> ALOT of things, i try not to put music into categories or stereotypes,
> thus i go into everything w/ an open mind.
> the last thing i ever want to become is old and bitter.
Drop Kelly a line on that, he likes to give people pointers on keeping
an open musical mind and appreciating new stuff despite one's advanced
years.
devilphish
> 90% Of Phish shows are just pure music, but yea sometimes they like to
> have fun.
And a great example of them having fun, in a non-silly way, was their
version of "Don't Bogart That Joint" from the recent Halloween cover.
They did it Barbershop quartet style, and the "disconnect" between the
lyrical content and the super-cheesy, sickly-sweet-adeline barbershop
style was hilarious..."Pass it over to me (paaass it oveeer toooo
meeeeee)". I grew tired of the barbershop stuff pretty much
instantly, but this was a nice diversion and really well done.
> I never cared for the trampolines myself though.
It's fun for the 30 seconds that they do it, and actually quite
impressive. For those that don't know, Trey and Mike do a silly
little trampoline bounce, with rotating bounces, but in total sync
with each other. And if you were just listening you wouldn't even
know they were even on tramps.
> My
> favorite years of Phish were 93 and 94 when the shows were just raw
> and intense, with four incredibly talented musicians in their prime.
>
> The best example of this is my favorite show from 5/8/93, that Bowie
> gives me goosebumps ever single time.
Many are saying that they're playing better than ever right now.
devilphish
3jane.
>
> > The best example of this is my favorite show from 5/8/93, that Bowie
> > gives me goosebumps ever single time.
>
> Many are saying that they're playing better than ever right now.
I would agree with that, the shows I saw this summer were definitely
the best I've seen. They were great when I saw them back when (94 for
me), in a less polished more primal sort of way but they are totally
firing on all cylinders these days. It's sort of like comparing 68
Dead to 77 Dead, they are both sublime so it's just a matter of
personal preference and I prefer 77 (and 2010 Phish).
dr.narcolepsy
One reason the old-fart Deadheads ("dead" heads? - get it? - ha ha!)
don't like the trampolines is that Gerry and Bobby actually did try
the trampolines, once. Once. Bob's shorty shorts, which were about
as silly a statement as could be made, as it was, were - well, no nice
way to say this - bouncing around the room on their own, if you know
what I mean. Gerry did manage to get up in the air, the one time, and
I'm sure it's easy to visualize the carnage that ensued as he was - it
all seemed to happen in slow motion - catapulted into the drum set.
If you've ever wondered what the lyrics to Phish's "Catapult" are
about, wonder no more.
There's no reason that fans of both bands can't just get along - both
bands make fantastic, party music, let's share the same trip!
marcman
HA! Coffee through the nostrils!
marcman
Dude, that's all well and good, but if you don't immediately go back
and correct the spelling of Jer's name to Jerry and not Gerry, lose my
number! HMMMPH!
OneOhEight
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> devilphish
I'm not saying I don't enjoy the current Phish, but I would put 92-95
and 97-98 and even a couple shows from '03 at a higher level than what
I'm hearing now, but that's just me.
108
devilphish
I've always said that if they kept playing the kinds of shows they
played in 92-94 then I would never have become a phan. I like the old
stuff, but love the newer Billy Breathes style that came into the band
in the '96 time frame.
Just like the GD, Phish appeals (and repels) to folks on different
levels.
devilphish
daves energyguide
i heard that Gerry plays a wicked guitar!!
:)))))
deg
Brad Greer
wrote:
Oh please. '68 Dead was dripping with youthful exuberance and pure
lysergic energy. It may well be my favorite year of Dead.
3jane.
I'm not sure what your point is. It's good you enjoy 1968 Dead, I'm
happy for you.