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Andrew Zanghi

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Somtime this week i have to choose a book for my 11th garde English
class to do my term paper on. Any suggestions? It has to be by an
American Author and can not be a book I have/had to read (theres to many
to list, but my high schools like most high schools in America).
Thanks In Advance.
Peace and Kindness
Andrew

PS-I have to write a researched thematic paper on this book, so it
should have a lot of themes as well critisisims.(sp?)

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bphh

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on the road

by jack kerouac

or

catch-22

or dharma bums
by kerouac

or lives of the monster dogs

by kirsten bakis


~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
"eyes alight, with glowing hair, all that fancy paints as fair"
- r hunter
"what a strange and beautiful life this is; as weird and lovely as the very
sea"
- j. kerouac


simon

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Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
By Hunter S. Thompson
you'll thank me later
Jon Simon

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PabloGarci

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The Fountainhead
by Ayn Rand

an amazing book, the 700 pages seem like 100, peace
Danny

ChaChaAng

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Slaughterhouse FIVE

bphh

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yeah i forgot about vonnegut


slaughter house five

or galapagos

or lots others

MixMy1200s

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Illuminatus! by Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shea...even if you don't do the
paper on this, READ IT...it kicks ass...

Peace,
Jeff

SoksEm

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THe helping phriendly book written by a man, a very knowledgable man. go to
barnes and noble and ask them to look up the letter I. this book is very
vauluable. read the book. it was writtne by the great and knowledgeable
ICCULUS

Josh Sanders

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"Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn. An amazing introduction to his
philosophies. Highly recommended.


Adam Barmash

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Rule of the Bone by Russel Banks...very entertaining, i read it for my 11th
grade project last year. i had to read 3 books by 1 author, and this is the
best that I read by Banks, who is a very talented author

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Brian Goolsby

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And after The Fountainhead, read Atlas Shrugged, also by Rand.
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b-go...@nwu.edu

Lawnboy

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or Atlas Shrugged
by Rand

tells of the society we are heading into, and how to save it

Jeannie Barber

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You should start with the helping phriendly book, then maybe some Dr.
Suess. Peace, J


willandkrys

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kerouac is considered a fantastic writer who influenced an entire
generation. the criticism on his literary works is not difficult to find,
and the options for a thesis that your teacher will accept are many. really
a very good choice
vonnegut is also on the list of authors that many advanced am-lit classes
will focus on.
even if you did want to jump out on a limb with something that would be more
difficult to research, hunter s. thompson fear in loathing would still be
an option ( but read the book as well as his other works, don't just watch
the movie)
read illuminati or anything else by robert anton wilson on your own time,
your teacher just won't get it....but read it.
as for the seuss, a very smart friend of mine wrote his paper on the
collected works of seuss and the effects his life had on his writings.
actually this seems a common theme in that i know someone who did the same
with beatrix potter. and if i recall correctly, i did the same a long time
ago with flannery o'conner. cannonized or not, as long as the writing and
the research are good........
peace, krys

JHorn323 wrote in message <19991102194941...@ng-ci1.aol.com>...
>the choices listed by others are great choices, but i think for a reasearch
>based paper you might want to go w/ a canonized selection...not that they
are
>superior in any way, it just makes your job easier because there is going
to be
>a greater amount of literary criticism available for your research...w/
>non-canonized books you're probably gonna have to go to your local
university
>(hopefully it has a decent library) to find adaquate materials to
>research...but, on the other hand, it would provide an adequate challenge
to
>wade thru the unsettled muck of literary criticism on those authors
mentioned
>by others to write a cohesive paper....
>
>I say, Salinger's Nine Stories...its not the most recognized of his works
so
>its not a though you're researching huck finn or a red badge of courage,
but
>there is a wealth of literary criticisms out there...

Andrew Briggs

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Some I read lately that I really like:

Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut
Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test by Tom Wolfe
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
Conspiracy of the Dunces(hilarious!) James(?) Kennedy Toole

Andrew

rmadawgg wrote:

> Masks Of The Illuminati
> Or SChroedingers Cat Both by Robert Anton Wilson
> Burndawg


SF Stardog

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>
> PS-I have to write a researched thematic paper on this book, so it
> should have a lot of themes as well critisisims.(sp?)
>

yo, is it sposed to be fiction or can it be non? If non, you
should check out Terence McKenna's "The Archaic Revival", which
will blow your mind if you like to read about other dimensions,
UFOs, magic mushrooms effects on human evolution, etc...

If fiction, get Philip K. Dick's "Radio Free Albemuth" which
deals w/ a lot of the same topics... very cosmic stuff...
Siriusly yours,
Stardog


Todd Lambert

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On the Road .. Jack Kerouac .. I did my reserach paper on Jack and his book
my sophomore year of high school and got an A+.

Andrew Zanghi wrote:

> Somtime this week i have to choose a book for my 11th garde English
> class to do my term paper on. Any suggestions? It has to be by an
> American Author and can not be a book I have/had to read (theres to many
> to list, but my high schools like most high schools in America).
> Thanks In Advance.
> Peace and Kindness
> Andrew
>

> PS-I have to write a researched thematic paper on this book, so it
> should have a lot of themes as well critisisims.(sp?)
>

Todd Lambert

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wow, i thought just one of those things flew over the cuckoo's nest, but
3 jesus

BassMst2K wrote:

> go with 3 flew over the cookoo's nest. I forge the author


One of Us Mack's

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One of the more thought provoking pieces of literature I've come across
(read it tons of times and still love it) is called "Into the Wild" by
Jon K. (I don't know how to spell it right now, sorry) he's the guy
that's written for climbing magazines and other books about expeditions
into mountains and stuff, like well, I can't remember ;-) One's about
going up into everest, I know that. Another is full of little short
stories he's put in magazines in the past. But check this book out,
about a guy named Chris McCandless. It pretty much documents all these
adventures he takes throughout the U.S. and North America, ending in a
freak (kind of) accident in Alaska that causes his life. Everybody
should read this, it just about gives me total joy of being alive
everytime I read it. Peace
Alex


Dharmadawgg

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GonePhishin99

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kerouac's 'the lonesome traveler'

Dharmadawgg

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Dharam Bums if you are in Jackie Boy...One of his best :)
Burndawg

Dharmadawgg

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>
>Dharam Bums if you are in Jackie Boy...One of his best :)
>Burndawg

That should read Dharma Bums...damn this flu is killing me :)
Burndawg

ResumeMann

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The celestine prophecy definately or a jack kerouak book like dharma bums.Good
Luck!

JohnD0H

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I had to do a similar paper when i was in high school. We had to read a book
by an american author and compare/contrast to (what i picked) a time in US
history. I read "The Grapes of Wrath" by John Steinbeck and compared and
contasted to the 50's (the beat writer...etc) it was my favorite paper that i
did in all of high school. Definately use the beats,very interesting
people/writers/artists, in a very interesting time. peace
jesse

JHorn323

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GoalieBoy3

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The World According to Garp-Irving

I LOVE IT!
haha
Peace

The Vicious Whitey

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Hop on Pop

Marci S.

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Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand.

Long, but a damn good book!

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BassMst2K

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Antelop420

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read into the wild by jack Krakauer...Many people could relate to this book..
One who flew over the cuckoos nest

JohnD0H

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>
>go with 3 flew over the cookoo's nest. I forge the author

I just thought this deserved to be posted again:) Enjoy.
jesse

HoboKen223

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Confederacy of Dunces by John Kennedy Toole

LrdNayrris

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I just finished On the Road, by Kerouac, and have recently started The Dharma
Bums as well..I'd have to say that a research paper would probably be easier
for On the Road, but The Dharma Bums is turning out to be a better read, in my
opinion. Grapes of Wrath or Atlas Shrugged would also be good choices, but if
you read one, I highly suggest you read the other. They both journal the same
era in History, but they both have definite opposing political ideals. Enjoy.
..........Ryan

LrdNayrris

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Oh yeah, I forgot- not for the essay, but try to read The Complete Hitchikers
guide to the Universe, by ??????...very funny and insightful stuff. heh.
.........Ryan

Dharmadawgg

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Douglas adams :)
Long Dark Tea Time of the Soul :)
Burndawg

VWvann

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All the Kerouac, Vonnegut, Rand, Kesey suggestions are terrific of course, but
you owe it to yourself to read some John Irving. A Prayer for Owen Meany is my
personal favorite.

other term-paper worthy titles:
Of Mice and Men - Steinbeck (short)
The Great Gatsby - Fitzgerald
Catcher in the Rye - Salinger
Crazy in Alabama - Childress
The Color Purple - Walker

Just a few suggestions. Good luck!

An 11th grade English teacher :)

exting...@my-deja.com

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less than zero and the ice storm are two i enjoyed a lot. check them
out.


In article <381F6E18...@redrose.net>,


Andrew Zanghi <zan...@redrose.net> wrote:
> Somtime this week i have to choose a book for my 11th garde English
> class to do my term paper on. Any suggestions? It has to be by an
> American Author and can not be a book I have/had to read (theres to
many
> to list, but my high schools like most high schools in America).
> Thanks In Advance.
> Peace and Kindness
> Andrew
>
> PS-I have to write a researched thematic paper on this book, so it
> should have a lot of themes as well critisisims.(sp?)
>
> --
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> AOL Screen Name = ZangFee
>
> "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't
> matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss
>
>


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The Vicious Whitey

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Douglass Adams - yes yes yes read this!! In fact, just read the first
10 pages. I guarantee you'll be so hooked you'll finish the series in
a few days. I don't think I've ever laughed my ass off so much over a
book!
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Striker017

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1984, a great book on what can happen. even if it doesn't change you much you
will catch little invasions of privacy and the bill of rights

Teclo420

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>The Complete Hitchikers
>guide to the Universe, by ??????.

Douglas Adams

Teclo420

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>I say, Salinger's Nine Stories...its not the most recognized of his works so
>its not a though you're researching huck finn or a red badge of courage, but
>there is a wealth of literary criticisms out there...

I second this emotion--A Great Day for Bananafish . . . excellent.

Luke (H2_I_Am)

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i'm surprised noone around here mentioned
"BURY MY HEART AT WOUNDED KNEE" by Dee Brown (no, not THAT dee brown)
the greatest piece of american non-fiction storytelling
basically about the fall and exploitation of the native american nations....
seriously, it will make you cry. i cried. i read it many times.
one of those books that just explodes popular myths and stereotypes,
please read it, even if you read a different book for your class,
peace,
luke (h2_i_Am)

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SuperJay

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Andrew,
Read Catch-22 by Joseph Heller. You'll enjoy it and it's a famous anti-
war book dealing with the an Army Air Corps unit stationed in Italy
during WWII. It's totally hilarious and you'll be able to find a lot of
material on it. Enjoy.

J.

Marci S.

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>other term-paper worthy titles:
>Of Mice and Men - Steinbeck (short)
>The Great Gatsby - Fitzgerald
>Catcher in the Rye - Salinger
>Crazy in Alabama - Childress
>The Color Purple - Walker

Wow! More fabulous suggestions! I love Gatsby -- well, I love anything
Fitzgerald's written -- and Catcher is just fantastic!

A couple more suggestions -

Maggie - Steven Crane
a short, but great book!

The Bell Jar - Sylvia Plath
It's an all time favorite and Plath's poetry is outstanding! Read Bell Jar
concurrently with her collection of poems, Ariel.

Fahreinheit 451
Short, fast read, but still a fabulous book!
Scary in the sense that I LOVE to read and this story of book burning was a
nightmare to me!

Dune - Frank Herbert
Forget the movie - the Dune chronicles are wonderful!!

Another favorite of mine, which is going off in a totally different direction,
is Diana Gabaldon's Outlander series. (Outlander, Dragonfly in Amber, Voyager
and Drums in Autumn.) Story deals with a WWII combat nurse stepping through a
stone circle in Scotland and finding herself in 18th Century Scotland in the
midst of the Jacobite Rising. Fabulous love story, historical fiction, etc...
For whatever reason, this book is found in the romance section but it's not
your predictable "boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy gains girl back" bodice
ripper you traditionally find there. It's a great read!! HIGHLY recommended to
anyone who loves being swept away and caught up in another time period.

gru...@my-deja.com

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"Superfudge" by Judy Blume

Chevie Edwards

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do your head some good, and read Richard Brautigan:

trout fishing in america
the abortion
dreaming of babylon
in watermelon sugar

i know there are more people on rmp that are into this guy.

--chev

Lawnboy

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Also look into "In the Spirit of Crazy Horse" Peter Mathieson

Gives you a bit of the understanding of the most exploited and abused group
of people in American History. Focuses on the Leonard Peltier case. If you
don't know about Leonard Peltier, find out, quick! He is a much more
innocent political prisoner than Mumia Abul Jamal.

FREE LEONARD PELTIER


Jeremy Dirty Bird Goodwin

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The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, by Thomas Kuhn. Will change
your life. Or you can read the Slaughterhouse Five, Illuminatus,
Fear and Loathing etc etc etc blah blah blah that are so
*predictably* being suggested over and over again.


-J

Jim Burke

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Andrew,

I think you should check out the Harry Potter series. A recent survey
was done which placed the 3 Harry Potter series books on the top 4 books
read on Ivy League campuses. A children's book that everyone is reading?
Worth a look IMHO.

Jim

nate profound glass works

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i read it, my girlfriend made me and it was cool, i laughed and felt sorry
as shit for him in the begining. if you have an active imagination and like
cartoons already, you will love this book

Jim David Weill

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i can't believe that in all these great books that nobody (at least none
of the posts i've read) has mentioned j.r.r. tolkein even once. there's
been so many things written about him and his stories that you shouldn't
have any trouble doing a report about him, plus he's probably the only
fantasy type writer who is considered literature(as opposed to sci-fi that
is). anyway, go pick up the lord of the rings and read it front to back
many many times.
--
"Mr Squirrel, I said, I'm sorry, but the problem can't be solved
If there's no one here to help, and no one to get involved.
Always look to the positive, and never drop your head.
For the water will engulf us if we do not dare to tread." -- De La Soul

Marci S.

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>as i lay dying - faulkner, a truly truly deep and amzing story

ugh! All I could think about reading this book was "Die!!! Hurry up and DIE!!"
I am NOT a Faulkner fan.

This reminded me of another book read in a college lit course - The Bluest Eye
by Toni Morrison. Fabulous story, IMO.

In the same course we also read a Batman: The Dark Knight Returns. A lot of
debate over whether this genre (a comic book) was considered literature. I
don't remember what the consensus was, but for me it got me interested in
Batman again!

AvidFan5

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hello hello,

okee dokee, here's a list of phatties from a freshman english major:

catch 22 - please read it if you haven't yet

a farewell to arms, to have and have not - hemingway, my favorite author

breakfast of champions - vonnegut's BEST work, screw S-H 5

as i lay dying - faulkner, a truly truly deep and amzing story

east of eden - oh yeah baby!

martian chronicles - ray bradbury rocks

roughing it - twain outdoes himself w/ raunchy comedy and adventures

from here to eternity - james jones, not the kool-aid killer!


JONATHAN GARSMAN

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Ok, don't take offense to this anybody, but I've read and loved
everything Jack has written, but Dharma Bums? Out all his amazing
works, I think this HAS to be the least interesting. It was a point of
his life that completely destroyed him and even HE was upset that he
wrote the book in the first place. If you want to get into his BEST
work, try Big Sur or Maggie Cassidy. The prose is so fantastic, and the
feeling is so tremendous, you'll want to be an alcholic for a couple of
weeks just to see what it's like(I'm not suggesting anything here, just
trying to expedite the power of Big Sur).

I believe it is THE HITCHIKER's GUIDE TO THE GALAXY not the universe.
Although universe does make more sense in the context of the story,
Douglas Adams was sensitive to the way things sound when they are read.
One of the reasons he's such a damn good writer.

Also, to anyone out there REALLY into the beats, and specifically the
father of them, Jack Kerouac, I suggest reading Thomas Wolfe. Not Tom
Wolfe, he's the author of Electric Kool-Aid and Bonfire and all that.
Thomas Wolfe was Kerouac's main influences, and he's one of the more
underestimated writers.

Another suggestion is Lawerence Ferlenghetti (?). Probably the best
poet that ever lived. He was also a painter, sculptor, and owned City
Lights, a bookstore in San Fran that was the first to carry Beat
Literature, before On the Road. But, Dharma Bums????? Really????

HYDALKER

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A few suggestions:
Confederacy of Dunces is great for fun.
AutoBio of Malcolm X (Alex Haley co-author)
Fountainhead (as w/ many others)
To Kill a Mockingbird
Miles Davis' AutoBio (if you're into jazz!)

...and a few hundred others but time's a wasting...

dodge

POSTER

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sailor on the seas of fate or the swords trilogy .. back me up here
whitey.. is mr moorcock still alive?


http://community.webtv.net/imbob/posterspageofLOVE


William Colledge

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How about Sometimes a Great Notion by Ken Kesey. Really a great book.

Conor Linehan

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Personally, I prefer the rambling of Earnest Hemmingway, try A Farewell to
Arms.
Conor

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donks

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Anything by Tom Robbins is worth checking out (My personal favorite is
"Half asleep in frog pajamas")
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Matthew Lodgek

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the best book ever is the Breakfast of Champions by Kurt Vonnigurt,
every Phish head should read it.

Big bever1

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Go Ask Alice

TCDibbs

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I'm sure you've been deluged by now, but in addition to all of these great
books (on the road, fear and loathing in LV, etc.) you might want to check out
a few classics such as:

Moby Dick
The Grapes of Wrath
The Aeneid.

Peace,

Ty Carey, the classicist

DCiesi9872

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I've enjoyed everything but Kurt Vonnegut. He's funny, easy to read, and
pretty clear about what his message is. My favorites are Slaughterhouse Five
or Breakfast of Champions.

all right then.
Dave

Dharmadawgg

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Yab Yum.....Hee hee!!!
Burndawg

MADHATT69

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Steinbeck's Grapes Of Wrath
Down with Disease to reply

The Vicious Whitey

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POSTER wrote:
> sailor on the seas of fate or the swords trilogy .. back me up here
> whitey.. is mr moorcock still alive?

Hell yeah! 'Cept I haven't read the Swords Trilogy yet. I think
Moorcock's still writing, can't remember. You know there's a Moorcock
web ring? LOTS of cool Eternal Champion sites on the web -
http://www.stormbringer.net/telric.html

If anyone would like some morecock, just email me and I'll tell ya all
about it.
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Mcgrupp

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Japhy Rider + Ray Smith / woman = Yab Yum
Now pass the Hershey Bar.
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> Burndawg

Todd Stern

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Trout Fishing in America is quite possibly the best piece of literature
ever written. Also, The Pill vs. The Springhill Mining Disaster, and
the Tokyo Montana Express. If you can read any of these, your mind will
never be the same again. I heard a rumor that there is a Richard
Brautigan library somewhere in Vermont, has anyone else heard anything
about this?

wmp wrote:
>
> For whoever mentioned Richard Brautigan, a sampling:
>
> _A Candelion Poem_
>
> Turn a candle inside out
> and you've got the smallest
> portion of a lion standing
> there at the edge of the
> shadows.
>
> _Flowers for Those You Love_
>
> Butcher, baker, candlestick maker,
> anybody can get VD,
> including those you love.
>
> Please see a doctor
> if you think you've got it.
>
> You'll feel better afterwards
> and so will those you love.
>
> (* and a classic . . .)
> _December 30_
>
> At 1:03 in the morning a fart
> smells like a marriage between
> an avocado and a fish head.
>
> I have to get out of bed
> to write this down without
> my glasses on.
>
>
> any dude who can publish a poem about VD or farts is okay in my book.
> Hmmmm . . .

Jim Burke

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William Colledge wrote:

> How about Sometimes a Great Notion by Ken Kesey. Really a great book.
>

This book is great. It took me a month to get through it but very well worth it.

Jim


goo...@webtv.net

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This book is not in the, "high brow," set but very interesting
nonetheless: Lame Deer, Seeker of Visions by Lame Deer as told to
Richard Erdoes. A fascinating and entertaining narration by a Teton
Lakota shaman that delves into issues of personal growth, revisionist
history, and the future of America. gooz


RPM

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    I agree, Into The Wild us a good book.  But really I have no sympathy for Chris McCandless.  Everything that happened to him was his fault and it is far from tragic.  I think that the author tries to make him a more sympathetic character than he really was.
    The author's name is Jon Krakauer and I don't think that he is an outstanding writer, but his stories are very interesting.  The problem that I have with him, especially in Into The Wild is that he states at the beginning of the book that he wanted to avoid writing about himself, then spends a number of chapters doing just that.  Ego.
    Rather than Into the Wild, I would suggest Into Thin Air, it is written better and the story is incredible.  Same story as the IMAX movie "Everest", an amazing story that gives you a new respect for the power of nature.

One of Us Mack's wrote:

One of the more thought provoking pieces of literature I've come across
(read it tons of times and still love it) is called "Into the Wild" by
Jon K. (I don't know how to spell it right now, sorry) he's the guy
that's written for climbing magazines and other books about expeditions
into mountains and stuff, like well, I can't remember ;-) One's about
going up into everest, I know that. Another is full of little short
stories he's put in magazines in the past. But check this book out,
about a guy named Chris McCandless. It pretty much documents all these
adventures he takes throughout the U.S. and North America, ending in a
freak (kind of) accident in Alaska that causes his life. Everybody
should read this, it just about gives me total joy of being alive
everytime I read it. Peace
Alex
 

RPM

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Andrew Briggs wrote:

> Some I read lately that I really like:
>
> Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut
> Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test by Tom Wolfe
> Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
> Conspiracy of the Dunces(hilarious!) James(?) Kennedy Toole

John Kennedy Toole. Great book, totally forgot about it until just now,
I read in HS. The author was 16 or 17 when he wrote it, and commited
suicide a few years later. It was publish posthumously as was his other
book, The Neon Bible which was written before Confederacy was.

>
>
> Andrew
>
> rmadawgg wrote:
>
> > Masks Of The Illuminati
> > Or SChroedingers Cat Both by Robert Anton Wilson
> > Burndawg


RPM

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That is suprising that you mention Breakfast of Champions. I really didn't get
to into it. Nor did Vonnegut. He called the worst book he ever wrote (I think
Hocus Pocus was), Slaughterhouse Five he considers to be his best (suprise
surprise). Along with SH5, I liked Cat's Cradle and Mother's Night the most.
Mother's Night is related to SH5, many of the same charaters, as in BOC, but much
better.
But hey, one of the great things about literature is that it creates debate and
discussion, so read them all and form your own opinions!

RPM

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Great book. Very quick read

GoalieBoy3 wrote:

> The World According to Garp-Irving
>
> I LOVE IT!
> haha
> Peace


RPM

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BassMst2K wrote:

> go with 3 flew over the cookoo's nest. I forge the author

Some acid head wrote it. he had a different name for it though...


"ONE flew east, ONE flew west and ONE Flew over the Cukoo's Nest"

I guess that one and one and one makes three right?


RPM

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Or Still Life Of A Woodpecker and my personal favorite of Robbins'-Another
Roadside Attraction

Daniel Morgan

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It's "Still Life With Woodpecker" not "Still Life of a Woodpecker"
may be easier to find, that's the only reason I said something.

RPM

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Right on, my mistake....
I did it on the Vonnegut part of the tread as well, I typed "mother's night",
when it should be mother night... in a hurry I guess

Chevie Edwards

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i'm glad there are other people on here who have heard of brautigan. if
you haven't, BY ALL MEANS, read something of his. they're short books,
but i still can't understand how he says everything there is to write in
those few words. they're about nothing, but really they're about
everything.

trout fishing is definitely one of his best, as are "the abortion" and
"in watermelon sugar." and then all the poetry he produced is
incredible in itself.

Spinning like a ghost
on the bottom of a
top,
I'm haunted by all
the space that I
will live without
you.

do your mind right, and find some of his books.
--chev

Roberlyn

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One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? Ken Kesey, people.
Peace,
Robyn

Harpentuan-1stClass

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> Go Ask Alice

When she's ten feet tall....

Teclo420

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>3 flew over the cookoo's nest. I forge the author
>
>Some acid head wrote it. he had a different name for it though...
>

Said acid head being Ken Kesey, if I'm not mistaken.

Harpentuan-1stClass

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Cat's Cradle
by Kurt Vonnegut

Dan Mielcarz

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Andrew Zanghi <zan...@redrose.net> wrote:

> Somtime this week i have to choose a book for my 11th garde English
> class to do my term paper on. Any suggestions? It has to be by an
> American Author and can not be a book I have/had to read (theres to many
> to list, but my high schools like most high schools in America).

Well, perhaps you've had to read it, but if not:

_Catch 22_ by Joseph Heller

One of the funniest fucking books ever.

Pretty easy to write a paper on, taboot. Hint: "War is bad"

Hemingway makes for some good paper fodder as well. Try _The Sun Also
Rises_. Hint: The "war wound" is a metaphor.

Looking for a challenge, and the chance to include the word "cunt" in
your paper? _Tropic of Cancer_ by Henry Miller. You can get into the
whole expatriate thing (you can do that with Hemingway too).

Forget _On the Road_. It's a great book, but why not go for a more
depressing Kerouac book: _Big Sur_

Of course, there's always the 1800s, too. But most of the books from
then that I know of have probably been assigned to you at some point.

-Dan

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Conor Linehan <clin...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

> Personally, I prefer the rambling of Earnest Hemmingway, try A Farewell to
> Arms.
> Conor

Rambling? I've heard Hemingway accused of a lot of things, but
rambling? His claim to fame is his concise prose!

-Dan (my girlfriend wrote her thesis on Hemingway)

Jeffrey Wieczorek

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Ishmael - Daniel Quin
Way of the Peaceful Warrior - Dan Millman
Siddhartha - Herman Hesse (this is my favoirte book)


-Jeff

Luke (H2_I_Am)

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Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee by Dee Brown

READ IT! go to the library now and read it, you'll thank me later

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For one thing, Tolkein's not an American author.

-Medium Dave

Lux In Homine Factum|From Man Into Light


John Sleeva

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Dan Mielcarz wrote:

> Forget _On the Road_. It's a great book, but why not go for a more
> depressing Kerouac book: _Big Sur_

And then graduate to Desolation Angels

(Dharma Bums is must read also. Probably first.)

peace,
js


John Sleeva

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Jeffrey Wieczorek wrote:

> Siddhartha - Herman Hesse (this is my favoirte book)

YES YES YES YES YES!!!

"I can sit; I can fast; and I can wait."

...or something like that.

READ THE BOOK!!!!!!!!!

peace,
js


John Sleeva

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YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn, I'm glad to see others appreciating him. In Watermelon Sugar makes me
laugh out loud and even shed a tear if the mood is right. Trout Fishing is
top drawer stuff too.

Nothing like a quiet moment spent with a worn Brautigan book.

peace,
js

Dan Mielcarz

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John Sleeva <jrsl...@iquest.net> wrote:

> Dan Mielcarz wrote:
>
> > Forget _On the Road_. It's a great book, but why not go for a more
> > depressing Kerouac book: _Big Sur_
>
> And then graduate to Desolation Angels

Yeah, that one is good too. But I think is was published posthumously,
which may explain why it is so much longer than most of his other books
- I feel like it isn't as focused.

I'm not afraid of long books, but Desolation Angels is a book that for
me became a sort of companion. I read it every now and then between
other books. The plot didn't really drive me to keep turning the pages
like some of his other work. That's not to say I didn't like it...it's
a great account of Kerouac's travels, just not a great *story*.

It did have a great quote about music:

"Because all these serious faces'll only drive you mad, the only truth
is music - the only meaning is without meaning - Music blends with the
heartbeat universe and we forget the brain beat."

-Dan

OxbowOtis

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W histling Song by Stephen Beachy and Swan Song by Robert McCammon: my two
favorite books of all time which I recenlty read (along with McCammon's Boy's
Life). Both are amazing in different ways. I highly recommend them to anyone
who's looking for a book to read.

Scott

ElSc0rch0

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The actual tital of the book is "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" and yes it is
very good. It was written by Ken Kesey who was a member of the Merry
Pranksters, which was a group of hippies who lived off of Kesey's profits from
OFOTCN and did lots of drugs and freaked out a lot of people. The exploits can
be read about in another great book, "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test," by the
guy who wrote "Bonfire Of the Vanities" and "A Man in Full" whose name escapes
me now. I think it's tom something. I just thought everyone might want to
know that.

Eric

>
>You are thinking about the Flecktones's album. BTW, All the King's Men
>by Robert Penn Warren is a great book I just finished.
>
>In article <3821BCA8...@aol.com>,
> rpmor...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> BassMst2K wrote:
>>
>> > go with 3 flew over the cookoo's nest. I forge the author


>>
>> Some acid head wrote it. he had a different name for it though...
>>

Josh Rude

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I suggest everyone take a reading of the George Orwell
masterpiece _1984_. And if you've already read it dozens
of times, read it again.

Just finished rerererererererererererereading it today.
Gets better every time.

(Now Playing: "Diggin' In", SCI: Wrong Planet)

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RPM

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oh, yeah...

Teclo420 wrote:

> >3 flew over the cookoo's nest. I forge the author
> >
> >Some acid head wrote it. he had a different name for it though...
> >
>

RPM

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Tom Wolfe...
I'm reading "A Man In Full" now. It's pretty good. Wolfe seems to nail each
generation perfectly.

ElSc0rch0 wrote:

> The actual tital of the book is "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" and yes it is
> very good. It was written by Ken Kesey who was a member of the Merry
> Pranksters, which was a group of hippies who lived off of Kesey's profits from
> OFOTCN and did lots of drugs and freaked out a lot of people. The exploits can
> be read about in another great book, "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test," by the
> guy who wrote "Bonfire Of the Vanities" and "A Man in Full" whose name escapes
> me now. I think it's tom something. I just thought everyone might want to
> know that.
>
> Eric
>
> >
> >You are thinking about the Flecktones's album. BTW, All the King's Men
> >by Robert Penn Warren is a great book I just finished.
> >
> >In article <3821BCA8...@aol.com>,
> > rpmor...@aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> BassMst2K wrote:
> >>

> >> > go with 3 flew over the cookoo's nest. I forge the author


> >>
> >> Some acid head wrote it. he had a different name for it though...
> >>

Luke (H2_I_Am)

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PLEASE read Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee by Dee Brown.....a book every
american should read.....a book that should be a pre-requisite for holding
political office in the country.

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> Somtime this week i have to choose a book for my 11th garde English
> class to do my term paper on. Any suggestions? It has to be by an
> American Author and can not be a book I have/had to read (theres to many
> to list, but my high schools like most high schools in America).

> Thanks In Advance.
> Peace and Kindness
> Andrew
>
> PS-I have to write a researched thematic paper on this book, so it
> should have a lot of themes as well critisisims.(sp?)
>
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>
>

Brian Poteat

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Ahh yes. Tom Wolfe. the "...acid test" was a great book
that also has a lot of history built into it...Our history.
"A Man In Full" was a good book but not as real and close to
my heart as the "... acid test". Well, anyway.
b-

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