Domingo honored by Kennedy Center
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After all the posts about how Robert Merrill should be honored by the
Kennedy Center the Kennedy Center decides that Placido Domingo deserves
it more. I guess money talks. It is a shame that a wonderful baritone
still has not been given the honor and so many others that should come
before Domingo.
Patsy
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Matthew B. Tepper
>
> << Perhaps a vice-president who is Jewish, an East-coaster, and an arts
> lover would help? >>
>
> Merrill hasn't got a chance, then. Lieberman will never be
> vice-president.
>
> Ancona21
To what special information are you privy, then?
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>
>Just curious about your opinions.
>
>After all the posts about how Robert Merrill should be honored by the
>Kennedy Center the Kennedy Center decides that Placido Domingo deserves
>it more. I guess money talks. It is a shame that a wonderful baritone
>still has not been given the honor and so many others that should come
>before Domingo.
>
>Patsy
Are you ever right. It's all about political correctness, as is everything
these days. Merrill is an "old" opera singer, white, jewish, and doesn't fit
their profile, IMHO.
Merrill is 83. He has had one of the truly resplendant careers of the last 50
plus years. He is an American legend. Sang about 900 performances with the Met
along.
I think it is a national shame and continued disgrace that he is overlooked.
This award can only be given to a living artist. Time is flying.
This has nothing to do with my (low) opinion of Domingo as a singer. It is
simply unfair and wrong, but, then, so are many things in life. But this one is
unforgivable.
With disgust,
Ed
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Merrill. There will be other chances to honor P.D.
And no way would I attend.
Don Tomasso
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Ed Rosen
Ed
Matthew B. Tepper
>
> Are you ever right. It's all about political correctness, as is
> everything these days. Merrill is an "old" opera singer, white, jewish,
> and doesn't fit their profile, IMHO.
Perhaps a vice-president who is Jewish, an East-coaster, and an arts
lover would help?
> This has nothing to do with my (low) opinion of Domingo as a singer.
*cough*
Tom Kaufman
>lover would help?
>
What a horrible thought.
Don Tomasso
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>Customoper wrote:
>>
>> Are you ever right. It's all about political correctness, as is
>> everything these days. Merrill is an "old" opera singer, white, jewish,
>> and doesn't fit their profile, IMHO.
>
==========
No disrespect whatever to Merrill, who was certainly a world-class singer and a
world-class mensch, Ed, but I think that if you'd take a minute to review the
past honorees (http://www.kennedy-center.org/honors) I think you'd find it hard
to argue that old white Jewish men have been under-represented.
Not that any of them are undeserving, by any means; but I don't think it's fair
to suggest that Bob was excluded because of his religion. And Domingo is
certainly a semi-old white opera singer.
It *is* fair to say, I think, that in recent years the awards have tilted more
and more toward icons of popular culture (Bill Cosby, Willie Nelson, Stevie
Wonder and Clint Eastwood are examples in the last three years), and a little
away from "cultural" figures.
But surely each of them, in his own way, has entertained many millions of
people; I personally have not been a fan of most of Clint Eastwood's work,
(liked him in The Bridges of Madison County, though), but who are we to say
that comedians, country singers, R & B writer/performers, and film actors,
"have not made unique contributions to our national culture."
Are you *sure* that Domingo's nomination didn't make you a little more testy
than you were when Merrill was passed over last year? :-)
Best Regards,
Pat
And there was many and many a lovely note,
Some, singing loud, as if they had complained;
Some with their notes another manner feigned;
And some did sing all out with the full throat.
The Cuckoo and the Nightingale from Chaucer (Wordsworth)
Oisk17
Merrill. Robert Merrill is an American living legend, and should have been
chosen over a much younger foreigner.
Paul
Ed Rosen
year older. As I said, the award can only be giving to a living person. What the
hell are they waiting for. And no,I would feel this way no matter who was nominated
instead of Merrill. Absolutely no one deserves it more than he does.
Best,
Ed
Ed Rosen
colleagues, you know. They sang together in many operas at the Met. I saw them together
in Ballo, Carmen, Forza, Aida, Carmen, Traviata, and, I think, Tosca.
It is still a damn shame that Merrill is passed by for this honor every year. Who will
get the honor next year- Jose Cura????
Ed
Charlie
deserves it NOW....This is so unfair..I bet if Tucker were alive they would
ignore him and give the award to Nedda Casei...what an joke!!!!! CH
My best, Charlie. Check out my website dedicated to the wonderful world
of opera, and request my huge free catalogue of live opera tapes.
Charlie
>get the honor next year- Jose Cura????
>
No...It will be a toss-up between Sarah Brightman and Jose canseco.CH
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of the people not into opera would tune in because of Merrill versus how
many might tune in because of Domingo and his high profile equal only to
McDonald's commercials. John
Ancona21
lover would help? >>
Merrill hasn't got a chance, then. Lieberman will never be vice-president.
Ancona21
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one is that a bunch of people gave this price virtually everybody and now
it's your turn. Or they are afraid that you are too old and could die till
they will be honoring other people next year. So what?
Domingo was obviously more talked about. Maybe they based their poll of
possible candidates by counting a number of name appereances in r.m.o. Hm,
but then the price should go to somebody completely different.
Ivan
pats...@aol.com wrote:
> Just curious about your opinions.
>
> After all the posts about how Robert Merrill should be honored by the
> Kennedy Center the Kennedy Center decides that Placido Domingo deserves
> it more. I guess money talks. It is a shame that a wonderful baritone
> still has not been given the honor and so many others that should come
> before Domingo.
>
> Patsy
>
Corellifan
>one
>year older.
Gee, Ed, got your degree in math, huh? Isn't this true for everybody? I
agree, though, Merrill should come before Domingo.
Oxydols,
John
Tom Kaufman
>invited!!
>
>Ed
>
>Tom Kaufman wrote:
>
>> Let me add my vote to these others. That is one honor that should go to
>Robert
>> Merrill. There will be other chances to honor P.D.
>>
>> And no way would I attend.
>>
No way would I watch.
Tom>
Terrymelin
citizen" and last year we had Sean Connery and Placido Domingo both foreign
citizens instead of Americans like Robert Merrill or several living American
film legends. Don't know what their problem is.
Terry Ellsworth
Ed Rosen
Ed
Corellifan wrote:
> >Well, I do think that each year that Merrill is passed over means that he is
> >one
> >year older.
>
Commspkmn
been honored by the Kennedy Center. Merrill has been (unjustifiably) ignored
by the Kennedy Center for years in favor of other artists.
Do you really believe that this year's choice came down to Merrill or Domingo?
Ken Meltzer
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custo...@aol.com (Customoper) wrote:
> Are you ever right. It's all about political correctness, as is everything
> these days. Merrill is an "old" opera singer, white, jewish, and doesn't fit
> their profile, IMHO.
Wait a second. I thought being old, white, and jewish meant "the triumph of
diversity" according to the Democratic platform. Political correctness
indeed.
Janloves
>Date: 8/23/2000 1:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <12993-39...@storefull-125.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
certainly warrant him being honored. But, as you said, there aren't many into
opera, and those who have listened to opera in the past, probably would not
know Robert Merrill's name as readily as Placido Domingo's. So ratings I
believe do factor into it. But, I really don't see the Kennedy honors as that
big a deal anyway. I guess it's just me.I have loved many singers and actors
who have never won awards. It makes them no less of a singer or actor in my
eyes.
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Ancona21
> vice-president.
>
> Ancona21
To what special information are you privy, then? >>
I am that I am.
Ancona21
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Andre Edouard
higher rank than you.
Andre
Ixnay ithway the atinlay
Stregata
>
>Ancona21
I do hope and pray so.
Stregata
Andre Edouard
Who's ox is being gored now?
Andre
Stregata wrote:
> Lieberman will never be vice-president.
> >
> >Ancona21
>
Andre Edouard
that is what she means. You know I carry the same sensibilities as you,
I'd be despondent and surprised were that the case.
Andre
Matthew B. Tepper wrote:
> Stregata wrote:
> >
> > >Stregata wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Lieberman will never be vice-president.
> > >> >
> > >> >Ancona21
> > >>
> > >> I do hope and pray so.
> > >>
> > >> Stregata
> > >
> > >And why do you say that?
> > >
> > >--
> > >Matthew B. Tepper:
> >
> > I have my reasons.
> >
> > Stregata
>
> And some people in 1928 "had their reasons" for not wanting to see Al
> Smith become president.
>
> --
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Andre Edouard
That's about as rational a retort as you need, or understand.
Andre
Matthew B. Tepper
>
> Lieberman will never be vice-president.
> >
> >Ancona21
>
>
> Stregata
And why do you say that?
--
Kagami101
> Who's ox is being gored now?
>Andre
>
Heh. You said "Gored". :)
Todd
Stregata
>>
>> Lieberman will never be vice-president.
>> >
>> >Ancona21
>>
>> I do hope and pray so.
>>
>> Stregata
>
>And why do you say that?
>
>--
>Matthew B. Tepper:
I have my reasons.
Stregata
Matthew B. Tepper
And some people in 1928 "had their reasons" for not wanting to see Al
Smith become president.
--
Andre Edouard
Go to sleep, moron.
Andre Edouard
Mark Slater
>
>I am that I am.
>
>Ancona21
>
Going back to the Limerick thread, Popeye the Sailorman said:
"iamb wud iamb".
Mark Slater
Musica laetitiae comes medicina dolorum.
(Music is the companion of joy and the medicine of sorrow.)
Mark Slater
>has
>been honored by the Kennedy Center.
Not exactly, Ken. He was given a six figure salary to be the artistic director
of the Washinton Opera (at the Kennedy Center).
Matthew B. Tepper
I do not agree with his politics." But then, why not say so?
Andre Edouard wrote:
>
> I think I know where you're going Matthew, but given the poster, I doubt
> that is what she means. You know I carry the same sensibilities as you,
> I'd be despondent and surprised were that the case.
> Andre
>
> Matthew B. Tepper wrote:
>
Leonard Tillman
upon Merrill, whom many of us have "grown up with" and consider to be
the KING of baritones, - and is now 83 yrs. of age!! However , the
ENTIRE establishment of the Kennedy Center means far less to us than
even one moment of Merrill's sound ! So may he not be bothered by their
oblivious neglect - and just "plain old" , "good (?) old" STUPIDITY !!!
tapefanatic P.S.: And I LIKE Domingo very
much, too,- but believe this time, the honoree should have been the
great Robert Merrill!!
Commspkmn
>has
>been honored by the Kennedy Center.
<<Not exactly, Ken. He was given a six figure salary to be the artistic
director
of the Washinton Opera (at the Kennedy Center).
Mark Slater >>
Is that an honorary position?
Ken
Tom Kaufman
>>
>> >Stregata wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Lieberman will never be vice-president.
>> >> >
>> >> >Ancona21
>> >>
>> >> I do hope and pray so.
>> >>
>> >> Stregata
>> >
>> >And why do you say that?
>> >
>> >--
>> >Matthew B. Tepper:
>>
>> I have my reasons.
>>
>> Stregata
>
to be V.P. would be for Gore to be president. Not a pleasant thought, as far as
I am concerned.
Three cheers for Stregata.
Don Tomasso
Stregata
>Well, it's certainly very possible that Stregata's reasons are "because
>I do not agree with his politics." But then, why not say so?
Because those reasons are mine only, not for public sharing. But to satisfy
your curiosity, it does not have anything to do with "I do not agree with his
politics."
Stregata
Terrymelin
culture are enormous and he is deserving of the honor as Jessye Norma (honored
a few years back) was not. I would just have hoped that they could have waited
and honored Mr. Merrill this year instead considering his age. But they have
also refused to honor Milton Berle who is 90 something!
Terry Ellsworth
donpaolo
not pay homage to a naked emperor.
DonP.
Ed Rosen <custo...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Well, Don Tomasso, with all respect, no way you (or I) would ever be
invited!!
>
> Ed
>
> Tom Kaufman wrote:
>
> > Let me add my vote to these others. That is one honor that should go to
Robert
> > Merrill. There will be other chances to honor P.D.
> >
> > And no way would I attend.
Andre Edouard
I understand your reluctance to "pay homage" to the naked emperor.
How about if he came to your house........naked. It's not far, is it?
Worse yet, Merrill naked.......85 years old.....he'd catch a cold.
You want that on your conscience?
MDFGAE
pala...@my-deja.com
> <<Not exactly, Ken. He was given a six figure salary to be the
artistic
> director
> of the Washinton Opera (at the Kennedy Center).
> Mark Slater >>
>
> Ken
>
>
No, it's a munerary position.
Palamede
Terrymelin
>not pay homage to a naked emperor.
>
>DonP.
You won't have to worry. This event has a waiting list stretching for years.
There is no chance you will be invited. But some of us will cheer Mr. Domingo
that night even though we wish it was Mr. Merrill being honored.
Terry Ellsworth
donpaolo
anyway.
DonPaolo
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DonPaolo
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> Don Paolo,
> I understand your reluctance to "pay homage" to the naked emperor.
> How about if he came to your house........naked. It's not far, is it?
> Worse yet, Merrill naked.......85 years old.....he'd catch a cold.
> You want that on your conscience?
> MDFGAE
>
> donpaolo wrote:
>
> > Better still, no way would I ever attend, even if invited. I simply
would
> > not pay homage to a naked emperor.
> >
> > DonP.
> >
Customoper
won't sing that night!!!
Ed, at Kinko's in Boynton Beach, Fl
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Customoper
>NO, but i'm sure you will hear many excerpts though........
Perhaps. BTW, Skip, I understand that next year Bocelli will be honored, and he
wants you as his personal guest!!!
Best,
Ed
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Skip
Maybe I'll stick a whoopie cushion under his butt, and he won't have to sing
live.
Well if he invites me, I will ask C.C. to invite you as her personal
guest..........
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james jorden
> Ed, at Kinko's in Boynton Beach, Fl
Wow, some of those New York Opera Forum venues are *really* out of the way!
==============
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Customoper
>
>> Ed, at Kinko's in Boynton Beach, Fl
>
>Wow, some of those New York Opera Forum venues are *really* out of the way
>
>james jorden
Yep, really kinky, huh? And I loved it so much that I am right back there this
morning!!
Ed
Tyrrath
>cake; you, I'd give a shot of Thorazine, with a glass chianti...
And maybe a bathrobe, DonP?:)
Tyrrath
certainly beloved by those of us who actually listen to opera, given who the
/other/ nominees in music are (and have recently been), do you even think the
Powers That Nominate have even /heard/ of him? I enjoy Domingo's work and am
glad he's being honored. I, for one, wouldn't object to seeing /both/ of them
honored in a single year. I apologize to all the Chuck Berry fans out there,
but is HE really more deserving of the honor than Robert Merrill?
Tyrrath
it back to the company...
Terrymelin
>certainly beloved by those of us who actually listen to opera, given who the
>/other/ nominees in music are (and have recently been), do you even think the
>Powers That Nominate have even /heard/ of him?
Actually, Mr. Merrill was on the Artist's Nominating Committee for this event
for many years (1978 until late 80s I believe). Opera has always gotten short
shrift in these Honors. In the 23 years of the award only seven "opera" singers
have received it (in order of receipt): Marian Anderson (first year), Leontyne
Price, Beverly Sills, Rise Stevens, Marilyn Horne, Jessye Norman, and now
Domingo. Interesting that he's the first male opera singer so honored.
Terry Ellsworth
Matthew B. Tepper
along the major boulevards and other thoroughfares, usually advertising
some cultural aspect of Los Angeles life. This time around it's the Los
Angeles Opera, and guess whose bearded visage looks down from hundreds
of banners? Nope, no rioting; Domingo is well-liked here by local
musicians and has strong ties to the Spanish-speaking community. (And
remember, Spanish was the main language in these parts *long* before
they became part of the United States!)
Dan, there's a bunch of people here don't like him, and they say it's
because they don't like his voice. Some of them I believe. The others
make it seem so *personal*, as though he went out of his way to kick
their dog, key-scratch their car, or even worse. But I guess opera does
tend to engender strong emotions and strong opinions.
Dan wrote:
>
> First of all, I don't understand why you people have a problem with
> Placido Domingo. I think he is a wonderful singer and very dedicated to
> his profession. He has sang an incredible amount of roles and has tried
> extending himself as an artist through conducting, singing in Russian,
> singing Mahler, etc. I think he deserved the award, and just because he
> isn't 83 doesn't mean he doesn't deserve it. I also think it's unfair
> that people categorize him with pathetic attempts to cash in on opera
> like Bocelli, Sarah Brightman, Charlotte Church, etc because he is a
> true artist, even if he is responsible for much of opera's popularity
> among "the masses". I for one started listening to him and because of
> him I started looking into other singers and more diverse repertoire and
> thus found the wonderful Robert Merrill (on CD) for example. I'm sorry,
> I can't say that I grew up seeing Merrill sing at the Met but thanks to
> artists who have brought out the wonders of opera in later years like
> Domingo and Pavarotti, I can appreciate the art form much more. I guess
> it's a shame that they had to become almost pop icons and demean
> themselves through appearing in arenas, but in the end their goal is
> reached that opera become more widespread; for after all, who is to say
> that it should only be enjoyed by the elite few who can spend hours
> debating on how good opera used to be 50, 60, even 70 years ago and how
> it's not like that anymore and boo hoo. Time moves on! And the fact that
> Merrill did not win is truly unfortunate, yet who is to say that Placido
> didn't deserve it more, it's all personal opinion, and as another post
> here said, it wasn't as if it were Domingo vs. Merrill.
>
> Dan
Dan
Domingo. I think he is a wonderful singer and very dedicated to his
profession. He has sang an incredible amount of roles and has tried
extending himself as an artist through conducting, singing in Russian,
singing Mahler, etc. I think he deserved the award, and just because he
isn't 83 doesn't mean he doesn't deserve it. I also think it's unfair that
people categorize him with pathetic attempts to cash in on opera like
Mark D. Lew
> (And
> remember, Spanish was the main language in these parts *long* before
> they became part of the United States!)
Not really, only about 70 years. Spanish ships had explored the coast
centuries before, but there was virtually no Spanish settlement in
California before 1770, when a deliberate colonization policy was
implemented in response to encroachment from British and Russian traders.
More pertinent, I think, is the fact that Spanish remained the main
language in those parts for so long *after* they became part of the United
States. (In fact, I suspect there are a few regions in which English has
never been predominant.)
mdl
Andre Edouard
Seems a generational problem here.
The simple fact is that America's one time favorite baritone, a man who
through his many television and stadium appearances helped popularize opera,
long before PD, has been passed over, for no discernible reason save television
ratings the night the "honors" broadcast. Rest assured opera was being brought
to the "masses," [I loathe that word] via those televisions without pictures,
Oh yeah, radio.
As to this "elite" horseshit, I find it nonsense, a self perpetuating
urban legend.
Every generation has its own particular heroes, so I'll just assume you
will allow we "opera necrophiliacs" to enjoy reminiscing about our favorites.
Whichever generation you're a part of, there was one before yours.
It might serve you well to remember that.
You mentioned the terrific trio "demeaned" themselves. A gig's a gig,
don't knock it.
By the way, I'm no fan of the trio, or any of its constituent parts, some
larger than others.
AE
Brian Moore
Andre Edouard <and...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Dan,
...
>Oh yeah, radio.
> As to this "elite" horseshit, I find it nonsense, a self perpetuating
>urban legend.
> Every generation has its own particular heroes, so I'll just assume you
>will allow we "opera necrophiliacs" to enjoy reminiscing about our favorites.
> Whichever generation you're a part of, there was one before yours.
> It might serve you well to remember that.
> You mentioned the terrific trio "demeaned" themselves. A gig's a gig,
>don't knock it.
> By the way, I'm no fan of the trio, or any of its constituent parts, some
>larger than others.
>AE
>
I don't even see this as a generational thing. I've only been listening
to opera about 4 years and I know Merrill well. There are plenty
of "standard" recordings on CD that feature him, e.g. the Ballo
with Price or the Karajan Carmen.
To say that you are serious about opera but you don't know Merrill--
I just don't understand how you have been listening to opera, then.
Maybe this is a case of the "generational" thing being more important
when it comes to ppl who have the $$ to attend lots of live perfs.
Myself, dirt poor and living in the sticks, I have to listen primarily
to recordings. If one listens to opera on CD even a little, you will
encounter Merrill.
--
Brian G. Moore, School of Science, Penn State Erie--The Behrend College
bg...@psu.edu , (814)-898-6334
Andre Edouard
through his many television and stadium appearances helped popularize opera,
long before PD, has been passed over, for no discernible reason save television
ratings the night the "honors" broadcast. Rest assured opera was being brought
to the "masses," [I loathe that word] via those televisions without pictures,
Oh yeah, radio."
Mr. Moore,
I don't understand your "I don't know Merrill"
Surely the above will set that right.
Other than that, I'm basically in agreement with you.
South Fl. is not far from the edges of the flat earth, opreawise.
AndreEdouard
Brian Moore
Andre Edouard <and...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>"The simple fact is that America's one time favorite baritone, a man who
>through his many television and stadium appearances helped popularize opera,
>long before PD, has been passed over, for no discernible reason save television
>ratings the night the "honors" broadcast. Rest assured opera was being brought
>to the "masses," [I loathe that word] via those televisions without pictures,
>Oh yeah, radio."
>
>Mr. Moore,
> I don't understand your "I don't know Merrill"
> Surely the above will set that right.
> Other than that, I'm basically in agreement with you.
> South Fl. is not far from the edges of the flat earth, opreawise.
>AndreEdouard
>
This was an attribution error I think, sorry. I was in agreement with you
and also responding to the initial point made by the person you
responded to.
My point was that I don't see how even a newcomer to opera could
be unacquainted with Merrill, he is on several popular CD's of
operas. So I was just agreeing with you.
Dan
of singers like Placido and when I started listening I found Merrill. I own
recordings with him as well and if you read my post carefully you'll see
that I said all of this already.
Dan
Matthew B. Tepper
Anybody interested in seeing how Domingo is developing and publicizing
young opera singers may read this article from yesterday's _Los Angeles
Times_:
http://www.calendarlive.com/suncal/20000826/t000080398.html
Dolores Nocturni
crying out to be re-discovered.
Customoper
>His greatest achievement so far was to hire his wife to direct "Sly", an
>opera
>crying out to be re-discovered.
No- his greatest achievement so far was to hire Jose Carreras to sing the title
role, instead of singing it himself.
Commspkmn
title
role, instead of singing it himself.
>>
Yes, and with lots of transpositions.
Ken Meltzer
ngs...@wcnet.org
Matthew, I had the pleasure of seeing Carreras in both the Kennedy
Center and the recent Barcelona productions of Sly and, believe me,
there was nothing about his performance in either to induce a yawn - he
was superb. The yawn will be if Domingo carries through on his plan to
sing the role at the Met. As was the case with Stiffelio, Sly is a role
much more suited to Carreras. Domingo should not attempt it just as
Carreras should not attempt Othello.
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Matthew B. Tepper
>In article <39AB5524...@earthlink.net>,
> =?iso-8859-1?Q?oy=FE=40earthlink=2Enet?= wrote:
>> With all due respect, Ed -- *yawn*
>>
>> Anybody interested in seeing how Domingo is developing and publicizing
>> young opera singers may read this article from yesterday's _Los
>> Angeles Times_:
>>
>> http://www.calendarlive.com/suncal/20000826/t000080398.html
>>
>
>Matthew, I had the pleasure of seeing Carreras in both the Kennedy
>Center and the recent Barcelona productions of Sly and, believe me,
>there was nothing about his performance in either to induce a yawn - he
>was superb. The yawn will be if Domingo carries through on his plan to
>sing the role at the Met. As was the case with Stiffelio, Sly is a role
>much more suited to Carreras. Domingo should not attempt it just as
>Carreras should not attempt Othello.
My "*yawn*" was inclusive of Domingo-negative remarks, not the Carreras-
positive ones.
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Ed Rosen
Ed
Ed Rosen
ago Carreras told me they would alternate in the role at the Met. As far as I
know, Domingo is now doing them all.
Best,
ngs...@wcnet.org
Ed Rosen <custo...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Domingo is indeed taking over Sly at the Met, though as recently as 18
months
> ago Carreras told me they would alternate in the role at the Met. As
far as I
> know, Domingo is now doing them all.
>
> Best,
> Ed
>
That's the way I understand it, too. Especially difficult to understand
after the enormous success Carreras had at the Met Gala in the spring.
Maybe he just thinks that after singing the role in Barcelona, Nice and
Turin this year he will be sick to death of it. After all, he has
always had a fairly low boredom threshold. Nancy
tresbirri
comm...@aol.com (Commspkmn) wrote:
> << No- his greatest achievement so far was to hire Jose Carreras to
sing the
> title
> role, instead of singing it himself.
> >>
>
Indeed with enormous transpositions, at least in his performances of
the role in Europe. As Domingo was evidently planning to alternate
with Carreras in the role of Sly in New York, one supposes that he
was (or still is) intending to use the same transpositions?
Commspkmn
<< Indeed with enormous transpositions, at least in his performances of
the role in Europe. As Domingo was evidently planning to alternate
with Carreras in the role of Sly in New York, one supposes that he
was (or still is) intending to use the same transpositions? >>
That would be my assumption, based upon Domingo's recent practice. If so, it
will be interesting to see if those who criticize him for transposing
acknowledge that Carreras set the precedent.
Ken Meltzer
Matthew B. Tepper
custo...@earthlink.net (Ed Rosen) wrote in
<39AC174D...@earthlink.net>:
>Well, Matthew, with equal due respect, all your Bocelli posts- yawn,
>yawn!!
>
>Ed
>
>"Matthew B. Tepper" wrote:
>
>> ngs...@wcnet.org wrote in <8ogl1s$ep7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>:
>>
>> >In article <39AB5524...@earthlink.net>,
>> > =?iso-8859-1?Q?oy=FE=40earthlink=2Enet?= wrote:
>> >> With all due respect, Ed -- *yawn*
>> >>
>> >> Anybody interested in seeing how Domingo is developing and
>> >> publicizing young opera singers may read this article from
>> >> yesterday's _Los Angeles Times_:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.calendarlive.com/suncal/20000826/t000080398.html
>> >>
>> >
>> >Matthew, I had the pleasure of seeing Carreras in both the Kennedy
>> >Center and the recent Barcelona productions of Sly and, believe me,
>> >there was nothing about his performance in either to induce a yawn -
>> >he was superb. The yawn will be if Domingo carries through on his
>> >plan to sing the role at the Met. As was the case with Stiffelio, Sly
>> >is a role much more suited to Carreras. Domingo should not attempt it
>> >just as Carreras should not attempt Othello.
>>
>> My "*yawn*" was inclusive of Domingo-negative remarks, not the
>> Carreras- positive ones.
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