CFV: rec.music.hip-hop
Ron Asbestos Dippold
unmoderated group rec.music.hip-hop
Newsgroups line:
rec.music.hip-hop Hip-Hop music and culture in general.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 26 January 1995.
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This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdip...@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Steven J Juon <juonst...@bvc.edu>.
CHARTER
This newsgroup is to provide a forum for the discussion and
dissemination of information specifically relating to hip-hop music
and culture. This group is meant to replace the newsgroup alt.rap for
a multitude of reasons, stated herein.
One: Members of the rec.music.funky included rap as a form of 'funky' music
in their charter, yet they seem not to desire the volume of traffic rap
music generates. Some hold the opinion that the newsgroup should deal with
funk music alone, and that the large amount of rap traffic be directed
elsewhere. Those who post to rec.music.funky say they have nowhere else to
go, often because their feed does not carry the alt hierarchy.
Two: By moving to the rec.music hierarchy, we formally establish that rap
IS indeed a form of music. Periodically the alt newsgroup receives flames
claiming the contrary, yet forms of music which rap evolved from have their
own newsgroups (rec.music.bluenote and rec.music.reggae are two examples).
Three: The rec hierarchy is carried by more feeds than is the alt hierarchy.
By moving to the rec hierarchy we hope to increase the amount of coverage
and traffic our newsgroup receives.
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Ron Asbestos Dippold
Ron Asbestos Dippold
unmoderated group rec.music.hip-hop passes 239:44
There were 239 YES votes and 44 NO votes, for a total of 283 valid votes.
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Newsgroups line:
rec.music.hip-hop Hip-Hop music and culture in general.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact rdip...@qualcomm.com. For questions about the
proposed group contact Steven J Juon <juonst...@bvc.edu>.
CHARTER
This newsgroup is to provide a forum for the discussion and
dissemination of information specifically relating to hip-hop music
and culture. This group is meant to replace the newsgroup alt.rap for
a multitude of reasons, stated herein.
One: Members of the rec.music.funky included rap as a form of 'funky' music
in their charter, yet they seem not to desire the volume of traffic rap
music generates. Some hold the opinion that the newsgroup should deal with
funk music alone, and that the large amount of rap traffic be directed
elsewhere. Those who post to rec.music.funky say they have nowhere else to
go, often because their feed does not carry the alt hierarchy.
Two: By moving to the rec.music hierarchy, we formally establish that rap
IS indeed a form of music. Periodically the alt newsgroup receives flames
claiming the contrary, yet forms of music which rap evolved from have their
own newsgroups (rec.music.bluenote and rec.music.reggae are two examples).
Three: The rec hierarchy is carried by more feeds than is the alt hierarchy.
By moving to the rec hierarchy we hope to increase the amount of coverage
and traffic our newsgroup receives.
rec.music.hip-hop Final Vote Ack
Voted Yes
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af...@yfn.ysu.edu Robin L. Gibson
ahoo...@knoware.nl Arthur Hoogervorst
aks...@MIT.EDU Anthony Kenneth Sebro Jr.
ak...@zeus.UWaterloo.ca Andrew Kwame
alav...@sas.upenn.edu Seyed A Alavizadeh
al...@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca Alex Brosgart
alj...@reed.edu The Champ
al...@oec.com Kathy Peck
am...@p6.iwg.nl Patrick Amatsahip
ana...@cs.utexas.edu Ananda M. Kar
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ar...@tiac.net Art Cohen
as...@freenet.carleton.ca Grant McSheffrey
a...@engin.umich.edu Adrian Bradley
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bas...@medici.ils.nwu.edu Pamay Bassey
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bry...@netcom.com Bryan E. Glover
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bul...@midland.co.nz David Bullen
bw...@mizar.usc.edu Brett
cade...@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca Chewbacca
Carl_J....@rev.iceonline.com Carl J. Linder
cbh...@vt.edu chris holm
ce...@caledonia.hw.ac.uk Alastair Gabriel
cha...@uclink2.berkeley.edu Chad Dugas
cha...@aig.jpl.nasa.gov Len Charest
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Chris_D...@rev.iceonline.com Chris D. Linder
chu...@iastate.edu Charles D. Griner
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cr...@ccnet.com TEFKAR
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cur...@majik35.columbiasc.NCR.COM Curtis Evans
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dan...@efficient.com D'Andre Ladson
darc...@sas.upenn.edu Gwen D'Arcangelis
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dls...@gwproteus.com Dan L. Scholnick
dmcc...@acs.ryerson.ca Dwayne Mcconney - CVLE/F94
Doan...@aol.com
dou...@MIT.EDU
d...@coventry.ac.uk Darren Gunter
dr...@WPI.EDU Deborah M Riel
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Duan...@EBay.Sun.COM Duane Day
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ee9...@brunel.ac.uk Jon B Romano
er...@flav0520.sybase.com e.
ESCH...@delphi.com Erich Schulman (KTN4CA) -- Team OS/2
etu...@vt.edu Royalty
exo...@tiac.net Exobyte
exp...@netaxs.com
fpr9...@oasis.dit.upm.es Pareja 019
fra...@xs4all.nl
fran...@aztec.inre.asu.edu GREG FRANKLIN
gend...@ctron.com Edmund J. Gendreau
geo...@apollo.lap.upenn.edu George "Sir Lleb" Zipperlen
gibs...@awcnet.eglin.af.mil
gka...@sgva-serv1.ucsd.edu Glenn Kaino
glas...@DGS.dgsys.com Glassman
gle...@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu flight
GN...@academic.stu.StThomasU.ca TRAY
GRE...@HIRAM.EDU M-E-T-H-O-D MAN
gre...@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu Gregory B Beuthin
g...@shandakor.tharsis.com George Robbins
gsba...@plg.uwaterloo.ca Greg Barnes
gt7...@prism.gatech.edu jk51
Harry...@nyo.com Harry Allen
ha...@mlrs14.ml-software.de Michael Hasan
ha...@hotspot.geof.ruu.nl Dolf van der Haven
he...@husc.harvard.edu Hef-T
heil...@math.berkeley.edu Klaus
her...@bnr.ca kirk (k.) herlitz
h...@hhdo.ping.de Henning Holtschneider
hkui...@cs.vu.nl
hpre...@calumet.yorku.ca HEATHER PRESTON
ian...@scorch.hna.com.au Ian McRae
INTINTOL...@A1GW.GENE.COM Anthony Intintoli 225-5711
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isb...@ai.mit.edu Charles L Isbell
ja...@mail.utexas.edu John McNutt
JD_...@PAVO.CONCORDIA.CA
JGR...@ucs.indiana.edu
j...@cs.washington.edu Jack Lo
jmay...@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu Jay Maynard
jmcg...@uoguelph.ca
jne...@reshabar.tamu.edu James A. Nelson
joec...@hookup.net Joe Clark
John...@aol.com
jos...@us.itd.umich.edu
j...@knoware.nl Jan Pieter Kunst
jrv...@is.NYU.EDU jrv7472
jum...@moonshadow.apana.org.au
JUONST...@bvc.edu Flash, founder and editor of HardC.O.R.E.
jwhe...@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us John Hester
jyo...@luna.cas.usf.edu Jonathan Young
K.C...@cm.cf.ac.uk K Chan
k...@astro.physics.uiowa.edu Ken Brown
kan...@csugrad.cs.vt.edu Kenneth Anand
kas...@rullf2.LeidenUniv.nl Romano Kasteel
kel...@gov.on.ca Jude Kelly
k...@proexam.org Kenneth Munno
ke...@reseau.toyonaka.osaka.jp Kenji Rikitake
kerf...@silver.ucs.indiana.edu kevin randall fields
klm...@cs.rit.edu Kevin L Murphy
kni...@cs.tu-berlin.de Karsten Kniebel
k...@seanews.akita.com kevin lee
krq...@chat.carleton.ca Keith R. Quon
KSMI...@URIACC.URI.EDU Kyle
Kuts...@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de Peter Kutschera
l...@eskimo.com Lex Stevens
lf...@midway.uchicago.edu Some Glenn Required
list-...@dream.hb.north.de Martin Schroeder
m1on...@eden.fipnet.fi Jarkko Mustonen
Machi...@aol.com
magn...@wbb.com
mak...@tmphost.york.ac.uk MA Kyriazopoulos
marm...@garnet.msen.com Dave Walker
mar...@crl.com Brandon Rochon
mcq...@camelot.bradley.edu Matthew McClellan
md...@netcom.com Malcolm D. Moore
mei...@chert.CS.ORST.EDU Forrest Tyler Meitle
met...@perth.DIALix.oz.au Michael Ryding
Mgo...@aol.com
mich...@cs.wisc.edu Michael Lee
mi...@hyperreal.com Mike Brown
mi...@monkfish.nosc.mil Mike Pawka
mki...@cello.gina.calstate.edu Mike!
mlgs...@pitt.edu the G-Man
mmu...@sirius.uvic.ca Michael Munro
mn...@emerald.tufts.edu Mark Nyon
m...@df.lth.se Magnus Olsson
mor...@student.uni-kl.de Elke Moritz
mw...@po.CWRU.Edu Martin W. Woyczynski
nat...@bwh.harvard.edu Nathan Mehl
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ni...@sparrowhawk.dartmouth.edu Nils Nieuwejaar
NMW...@MIAMIU.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU
n...@m-net.arbornet.org nut
Olaf....@Helsinki.FI Olaf Laczak
ori...@astro.ocis.temple.edu The Artist Formerly Known as Kimberly
out...@aztec.inre.asu.edu CHRIS COX
p11...@cc.tut.fi Tero Paananen
pag...@ecf.toronto.edu PAGIAMTZIS KOSTAS
patr...@cs.kun.nl Patrick Atoon
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p...@ic.net
pep...@gate.maloca.com
phar...@shoreline.ca Pharcyde
pi...@bwc.org David Piff
pi...@clark.net Edward Piou
pip...@step.polymtl.ca Eric stephane Sindeu monga
pi...@skom.se Niklas Pivic
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ra...@cats.ucsc.edu Raymund Ramos
rdu...@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu Rhonda Dugan
re...@cb.cshl.org Corp Reed
r...@rtgx.hanse.de Ruediger Hoppe
ri...@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller
rkat...@snakemail.hut.fi Riku Katajam{ki
rob...@gully.tynet.sub.org Robert Edelmann
rob...@riva.com Robert Foulis
rrba...@nando.net russ barnes
rs9...@badger.ac.BrockU.CA ROSEMARIE SANTIAGO
Ruben.Leo...@iwg.nl Ruben Leo Parkland
s1...@brems.ii.uib.no
s93...@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU Wayne Karl Lubbe
sam...@mcnc.org Michael F. Sample
sco...@ozemail.com.au Scott Milliken
sco...@ancho.ucs.indiana.edu Scott Southwick
SCW...@PSUVM.PSU.EDU Steve Wei
se...@corf.demon.co.uk Sean A Corfield
sfa...@husc.harvard.edu
Shaadi...@rev.iceonline.com Shaadi Faris
sha...@faceplant.gvg.TEK.COM The Grinch
SIV_9...@debet.nhh.no PAAL HANDING
sle...@herbie.unl.edu SHELBY LEWIS
smc...@bigcat.missouri.edu Stephanie R. McNeal
s...@cis.ufl.edu Stefan M Kallweit
so...@stealth.synthesis.cornell.edu Soam Acharya
sol...@ozarks.sgcl.lib.mo.us Shawn E. Oliver
srit...@m-net.arbornet.org Shelby W. Ritchie
s...@math.uio.no
ST20...@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU
steve...@thebeast.demon.co.uk Steve Rogers
st...@midway.uchicago.edu aaron stigberg
str...@slaughter.com Struct Pore
st...@gate.maloca.com Rawlson King
SWED...@auc-acs.eun.eg
t22...@sunmail.lrz-muenchen.de Karl Weltenheimer
T...@aacte.nche.edu
td...@knoware.nl Tom de Ridder
te...@PrimeNet.Com Terra
thi...@wbb.com
t...@canon.co.uk Tim F O'Donoghue" (!TFO)
TJR...@ritvax.isc.rit.edu SUDDEN DEATH
to...@cae.wisc.edu Tomas Willis
ton...@ecf.toronto.edu TO NINH
tpet...@prairienet.org Trevor Peters
trob...@nike.heidelberg.edu Tobey Robison 97
Tusc...@aol.com
u916...@uow.edu.au BONJOUR JEAN P
u930...@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA S. Vattompadam
unk...@gate.maloca.com
v91...@si.hhs.nl
v93...@si.hhs.nl
v93...@si.hhs.nl
v...@alkymi.unit.no Eivind Vea
Virgini...@Dartmouth.EDU Virginia A. Reed
wass...@salus.med.uvm.edu Richard Wasserman
wd...@dccc.edu
wide...@cc.helsinki.fi Risto Widenius
xav...@hpbs4706.boi.hp.com Bill Mccallister
yada...@Doctor.ampr.ab.ca Dave Shariff Yadallee
y_ko...@oz.plymouth.edu Yoichi Kominami
ztc...@psu.edu BOZACK
zy...@maloka.waw.pl tinyz
ZZ94...@etsiig.uniovi.es
Voted No
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AR1...@american.edu The Coney Island Whitefish Boy
arc...@cett.alcatel-alsthom.fr Vincent ARCHER
au...@cs.albany.edu Jim Ault
bo...@lynx.noo.navy.mil Martin H. Booda
bru...@infi.net Brian J. Rueger
bu...@CMU.EDU Burt N Holzman
bye...@rahul.net Bill Yeakel
cba...@wam.umd.edu C. Douglas Baker
clst...@mailbox.syr.edu Chris Stamper
cw...@Think.COM Christopher Ward
dgr...@unixg.ubc.ca David Griffiths
e...@msc.edu Edward Bertsch
e...@ham.island.net Robert Smits
es...@netcom.com Christopher Estep
femi...@eskimo.com William Affleck-Asch
ing...@cognos.COM Mark Ingram
jcmu...@cadman.cit.buffalo.edu Jeff Murphy
jsk...@lulu.acns.nwu.edu
j_he...@oz.plymouth.edu Axl
lca...@cis.ohio-state.edu lawanna j casto
man...@athena.compulink.forthnet.gr Dimitrios Sfakianakis
mpl...@industrial.com Michael Plump
mrst...@mailbox.syr.edu Marjorie R. Stamper
ni...@inferno.fc.hp.com Nick Ingegneri
p...@rhi.hi.is Pall Freyr Jonsson
podbox!da...@cs.utexas.edu David Chung
ptb...@owl.WPI.EDU Pete Bastien
radr...@panix.com Rebecca Drayer
r...@moontarz.nuance.com Ryan Waldron
scho...@pipeline.com Chris Schoonover
sew...@fieldday.mn.org Scot E. Wilcoxon
som...@enea.se Erland Sommarskog
stai...@bga.com Dwight Brown
tb...@sybase.com Tony Basoglu
t...@netcom.com Thomas G. McWilliams
t...@cfc.com Todd Swan
t...@mvision.com Tom Ritchford
to...@kibo.enet.dec.com Tom Jaskiewicz
tu...@daimi.aau.dk Martin M|ller Pedersen
vpnet!vpnet!vag...@quake.xnet.com
wesl...@dcc.unicamp.br
wil...@infoserv.com John MacWilliamson
xopa...@shoreline.ca Xopamondo
XPA...@MUSIC.CC.UGA.EDU PARKS, XAVIER JACQUE
Abstained
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crou...@flidh103.delcoelect.com Kenneth P Crouch
m...@RedBrick.COM M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS
ot...@vaxb.acs.unt.edu M. "Just hopping apathetic about this one" Otto
Votes in error
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a95...@sb.DIALix.oz.au Luke Harris
! No vote statement in message
dark...@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca Amerdip S. Gill
! Conflicting votes
ro...@newsdesk.aps.nl Newsdesk Amsterdam
! Invalid address