In article <93060.012021SH...@HARPERVM.BITNET>, SH...@HARPERVM.BITNET (Steve W H
ill) writes: >Coil's cover of "Tainted Love" easily fits the bill.
>Steve Hill SH...@HARPERVM.BITNET >Data Communications Technician William Rainey Harper College >Information Systems department 1200 W Algonquin Rd Palatine IL >-------"No one in power taking blame."-----Skinny Puppy--------------- >"You asked for nothing. That's what I gave you."---Legendary Pink Dots
what an asshole. soft cell had much more daring and creativity in their version. just because it was overplayed, it still made more of a difference than the coil version. this is not to knock the coil version, BTW --
relatively impressed with ------------------------- Annabelllllla Lwin
In article <13...@leonard.ed.ac.uk> and...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Andrew Fordham) writes: >In article <C30LD4....@cck.coventry.ac.uk> cei...@cck.coventry.ac.uk (The Freak) writes: >Then of course there's Bowie's version of Pink Floyd's See Emily Play. >Some hippy's going to kill me for that one...
All About Eve did an excellent version of "See Emily Play" on both the September and November tours - it was the best song they did all night- but lets face it...that wouldnt be difficult now.*SOB* "In The Clouds" was tragic...
Anyway...other cover versions I like....(thinking cap on...)
Voice of the Beehive - "I Think I Love You" Pretenders - "Stop Your Sobbing" "1969" (a much better version than the Mission's or t'Sisters) Blondie - "Ring Of Fire" ---------- "Out In The Streets" | "Denis" | So...there maybe a little Debbie Harry - "Pet Semetary" } bit of bias here...I did "Liar Liar" | spend 6 hours yesterday "Black Dog" | watching my Blondie vids... "Sharp Dressed Man" | "Waiting For The Man" --------- All About Eve - "The Witches Promise" "Silver Song" Joan Jett - "Cherry Bomb" (yes, I know it WAS a Runaways song, but she did re-vamp it) B-25's - "Dont worry" (though Yoko's IS better - gasp! shock! horror!) Patti Smith - "Gloria" "Privilege (Set Me Free)" Birdland - "See No Evil" Bangles - "September Gurls" Carpenters -"There's A Kind Of Hush" Judy Collins - "Both Sides Now" Throwing Muses - "Jak" Sandy Denny - "Memphis Tennessee" most of Linda Rondstadt's stuff...
and far too many more to list...
WORST covers ever (not including Kate's "Rocket Man")
Birdland - "Rock -n- Roll Nigger" ("Patti Smith was a rock-n-roll nigger/ Brian Jones was a rock-n-roll nigger/ Birdland are rock-n-roll niggers"...an amazing lack of foresight there methinks) Mission - "Atomic" (how DARE they - okay goths I've got my flame suit on) Die Cheerleader - "Somebody To Love" Steeleye Span - "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star" (sorry, I detest that one") The Farm - Dont You Want Me
Urgh...my thinking cap is beginning to stop the circulation (those who say that this wouldnt make any difference can FOAD)
Must dash of to a design meeting anyway...YIKES!!!
love Joolz -- *************************************************************************** ** *** "Jesus died for somebodys sins... JOOLZ THE JET GIRL *** *** but not mine..." - Patti Smith cei...@uk.ac.coventry.cck *** *************************************************************************** **
In <Mar.1.14.16.12.1993.3...@aramis.rutgers.edu> rineh...@aramis.rutgers.edu (Mark J. Rinehart) writes:
>For my tastes, K D Lang's live cover of Crying (in a tribute to Roy >Orbison), was better than any of the various versions I heard Roy >sing - and Roy is/was one of my very favorite artists.
Don McLean did a very good version, as well. I'm not sure if it wins, but I'd sure need an A-B comparison to be sure.
>I like Manfred Mann's cover of Blinded By The Light better than >Bruce's original.
Agreed. Did you ever hear their bloody awful attempt to cover his "Spirit In The Night"? Ick.
Rob T -- Rob Thurlow, thur...@convex.com "The dentist says not to pick your teeth with anything sharp, but the first thing they do when they sit you down in their chair is reach for an iron hook." -- Bill Cosby
In <1993Mar1.030557.6...@oracle.us.oracle.com> mbrew...@ibanez.us.oracle.com (Mark Brewster) writes:
>Japan "All Tomorrows Parties" orig. Velvet Underground
One more cover of the same song: June Tabor and The Oyster band do this in a Celtic style with a groove that _hurts_. Amazing!
>Run D.M.C. "Walk This Way" orig. Aerosmith
I approve :-)
Some more:
Delbert McClinton "Have A Little Faith In Me" orig. John Hiatt The Byrds <many songs> orig. Bob Dylan
Rob T -- Rob Thurlow, thur...@convex.com "The dentist says not to pick your teeth with anything sharp, but the first thing they do when they sit you down in their chair is reach for an iron hook." -- Bill Cosby
In article <C30LD4....@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, cei...@cck.coventry.ac.uk (The Freak) writes:
|> Following on from a discussion I had with a friend I was |> wondering how many of you have found some cover versions to |> be better than those of the original artist.It all |> started from Rocket Man.I personally thought that the Kate |> Bush version was far superior to Elton Johns,and my thoughts |> generally tended to be agreed on by my coolegues. |> Any thoughts on the matter.?
Rare Earth's version of "Get Ready" has it all over the Temptations' original, IMO, and I'm a Temptations fan....
+--------------------------------------------------+ |Dave Cochran, Data General Corporation, RTP, NC | |coch...@dg-rtp.dg.com | +--------------------------------------------------+ |"You know that feeling you get when you lean back | | too far in a chair and almost fall over? I feel | | that way all the time." -Stephen Wright | +--------------------------------------------------+
In article <C386ww....@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> wlamb...@acoma.ucs.indiana.edu writes: >I'd have to say that 10,00 0 Maniacs' "rockville" impresses me >more than REM's version...and I'm one of the biggest REM fans this side of >Athens.
Check out the Fatima Mansions cover of Shiny Happy People :)
Leo Breebart writes: >My own example of a Beatles cover better than the original would have >to be Shirley Bassey's version of "Something". It has to do with her >voice, I believe, because the Beatles' original arrangements are >arguably 'better' than Bassey's orchestrated muzak, but those vocals, >oh those vocals...
I think that one of the more regrettable injustices of life in the sixties is that most people have never heard Shirley Bassey do *anything* but the theme for "Goldfinger." [not that those treacly arrangements helped, as Leo points out]. It wasn't until Leo brought her up [and I think that her version of "Something" *is* pretty wonderful. It even shows up on the occasional "easy listening playlist" now and then, leading me to assume that maybe there's a reissue out there...probably in the UK or Japan....] that I suddenly realized something a little frightening. Stripped of their respective mannerisms [and they *are* legion, I know], I'll bet that there's some small part of my wounded soul that liked Sade *and* Anita Baker because of some buried fragment of those old Shirley Bassey LPs my dad kept next to the Acker Bilk stuff. I'd previously been unsure of why Anita had rung the chimes [not the "Anita in full wail" voice, though]. I'd figured Sade as a horribly distant cousin of Nina Simone [I know, dx, but this is, unlike Timothy, just an *opinion*]. -- I could be happy now. From my seat in the airplane/I could imagine the full enclosures of people/contented and with no needs beyond/private moments walking the fenceline/before joining the others in the night enclosure /that is the final shape of countries/G. A. Taylor/Heurikon/608-828-3385
> I'd have to say that 10,00 0 Maniacs' "rockville" impresses me > more than REM's version...
rilly? i thought it sounded *identical* to the REM version, except natalie was singing. i can't see how it improved on the original at all.
um, another one that i'm thinking about at the moment: Irish folksinger Luka Bloom's brilliant cover of LL Cool J's "I Need Love." don't waste your time with the studio version; except for the fiddle at the end, it's not very enlightening. but find a live version and you'll see God.
mlb
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In article <1993Mar1.213350.55...@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, j...@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (James Carrier) says:
>In article <93060.012021SH...@HARPERVM.BITNET>, SH...@HARPERVM.BITNET (Steve WH >ill) writes: >>Coil's cover of "Tainted Love" easily fits the bill.
>what an asshole. soft cell had much more daring and creativity in their >version. just because it was overplayed, it still made more of a difference >than the coil version. this is not to knock the coil version, BTW
Sorry, I'll stop being an asshole now.
And I'll never set my Coil CDs on top of my Soft Cell CDs again. :)
...taking it all in stride... Steve Hill SH...@HARPERVM.BITNET Data Communications Technician William Rainey Harper College Information Systems department 1200 W Algonquin Rd Palatine IL -------"No one in power taking blame."-----Skinny Puppy--------------- "You asked for nothing. That's what I gave you."---Legendary Pink Dots
Dsau's cover of Joy Division's isolation is very very good.
For you Canucks out there I think Crash Vegas did a cover of Neil Young's Down To The Wire on their only album so far...Red Earth. Fantastic album, pick it up if you get the chance.
I for one kinda like Age Of Chance's cover of Kiss by Prince of course... Then there is the Art Of Noise's cover of the same song, a little kitchsy but entertaining...
Then there are the industrial/thrash metal covers that are always good to raise a few eyebrows. 1000 Homo DJs doing Supernaut originally by Black Sabbath Nine Inch Nails doing Get Down Make Love originally by Queen Bigod20 doing Like A Prayer by you know who
In article <C35JJ8....@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Timothy.J.Yo...@dartmouth.edu (Timothy J. Young) writes: |> In article <4...@unisql.UUCP> |> r...@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes: |> |> > I bet if you asked the Chili Peppers if their versions of "Higher Ground" |> > or "Africa" or "Subterranean Homesick Blues" were better than the originals, |> > they'd laugh at you. |> |> You're definitely right. I *hate* their version of "Subterranean |> Homesick Blues" and their "Fire" as well.
Does anyone else feel certain that Bob Dylan should cover Rod Stewart's disco smash "Do You Think I'm Sexy?" Can't you just hear Bob (Bob's nose)... -- ca...@stone.com -- Carla Kay Barlow --- Stone Design Documentation and Technical Support General = i...@stone.com Reality = real...@stone.com
In article <tzmkrAeDBh1...@adi.ka.sub.org>, h...@adi.ka.sub.org (Ernst Hoefer) wri tes:
>Just some more:
>Song Covery by Orginal by >JUST LIKE HEAVEN DINOSAUR JR. THE CURE >MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE LEATHERFACE POLICE >CA PLANE POUR MOI SONIC YOUTH PLASTIC BERTRAND
plastic bertrand inferior to sonic youth...
ok buddy. i guess he can't help it, he's into grunge. --
Fourteen's how I'll ever be, I don't know how long it lasts But one thing's for sure, Louis Quatorze must hurry to love me
> In rec.music.misc, ayr...@gtewd.mtv.gsc.gte.com (Rich Ayres) writes:
>Chicken or the egg, I'm not sure, but...
> Aztec Camera's Jump works much better than Van Halen's (IMHO). And, if > you have the right version, it cranks up with some (almost) equivalent > guitar at the end...
> -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > | Richard R. Ayres > | ay...@mars.mtv.gsc.gte.com
And then there is The Residents "cover" of The Beatles' "Flying". I loved this at a time when I actively detested anything by the Beatles for MC (musicall correct) reasons. In their version, the Residents mock the Fab Four with a fascinating intensity that sounds like Charles Manson on a bad acid trip. When my Mom overheard me playing this, she requested that I never do so again until I moved out.
PS: To all people contributing to this thread, please include some description of why you prefer the cover or what makes it different. I and no doubt many others are very interested in knowing!
PPS: In connection with the "bad voices" thread, I just had the thought that Frank Sinatra covering songs from DOC AT THE RADAR STATION with an orchestra that swings could actually be very interesting, in a weird sort of way. But then that's part of the essence of Beefheart, weirdness. When I look at the photo on the back cover of this album, I have the impression that the Magic Band is a group of marginals and idiot-savants who have wandered away from the home and somehow found themselves in a recording studio with a strange, unkempt person who hears voices in his head telling him to make music. -- Ken Warkentyne - wark...@ltisun.epfl.ch Laboratoire de Teleinformatique, EPFL, Suisse.
In article <C30LD4....@cck.coventry.ac.uk> cei...@cck.coventry.ac.uk (The Freak) writes:
> Following on from a discussion I had with a friend I was > wondering how many of you have found some cover versions to > be better than those of the original artist.It all > started from Rocket Man.I personally thought that the Kate > Bush version was far superior to Elton Johns,and my thoughts > generally tended to be agreed on by my coolegues. > Any thoughts on the matter.?
As many people before me have mentioned, the question of whether the cover versions are 'better' is just one's own opinion.
I feel that it mainly depends upon which version you hear first. If the song itself is very melidious to your ears, there is very high chance that you will like the first version that you listen to, whether that is a cover version or the original. Beyond that point if that first version (that you hear) is heard by you more than a few times your ears would get accustomed to the 'sound' of the song. After this, you will probably not like another version of that same song as much, if that version differs from your idea of the 'perfect' version of the song, namely the first version you heard.
Does that make sense? :) I made the above analysis based upon incidents where I liked the cover version a lot more than the original, simply because I had heard it before the original.
In article <WARKENT.93Mar1104...@ltisun14.epfl.ch> wark...@ltisun14.epfl.ch (Ken Warkentyne) writes: >Hmm, this is the third discussion in the past month or so that has >prompted me to cite John Cale's version of "Heartbreak Hotel". >Cale creates a sinister, deadend Lonely Street from which there is >no exit.
I'll have to track that one down--but it will have to go a long way, with all due respect to Mr. Warkentyne (and to the wondrous Jet Girl), to beat out Tom Waits's cover of "Heigh Ho" on *Stay Awake*. It, too, paints an ominous picture. Definitely the job from hell.
>Pat Benatar does a cover of *Just Like Me* that far surpasses the >original by Paul Revere and The Raiders, imo.
The original version of "Just Like Me" was by The Wilde Knights, best known for the not-so-subtle "Beaver Patrol" (which can be found on the great _Pebbles Vol. 1_ comp).
Anyway, speaking of covers, let me just do some patriotic flag- waving here and mention that our sixties punk legends The Namelosers did an incredible fuzz-stoked demolition job on "Land Of 1000 Dances" way back in 1965 (I *think* it appeared on one of the later _Pebbles_ comps -- vol. 20+ or so).
I also prefer The Pretty Things' wild version of "Oh Baby Doll" to Chuck Berry's rather limp original.
-- Anders Engwall Email: Anders.Engw...@eua.ericsson.se ELLEMTEL Utvecklings AB Voice: +46 8 727 3893 Älvsjö, Sweden Fax: +46 8 727 42 20 "I Costa Rica tål de inte att min rika råkost råkar kosta mer än rostad räkost"
rog...@calamari.hi.com (Andrew Rogers) writes: >PS: remember the perennial thread about "I can connect so-and-so to >so-and-so in <n> links"? Well, my garage band opened for the Sundowners, >who had opened for Hendrix (and for the Rolling Stones, on their third >US date)... so you can connect *me* to Hendrix and the Stones in *two* >links! And since latter-day Sundowners drummer Benny Grammatico is the >brother of Foreigner's Lou Gramm, you can connect me to them in two links >too, although I'd prefer that you didn't unless you want to extend that (via >Ian McDonald) to connect me to King Crimson in three.
I think you're cheating somewhat here, as I don't think "been on the same bill as" constitutes a valid link. It's the verdict of the jury that counts tho', so don't give up hope yet.
However, I do believe I can link myself to Charlie Parker in three links. Here goes: the amateur jazz big band I'm in have on occasions had this local drummer sitting in -- who has also drummed behind Gunnar Svensson -- who played piano on Parker's tour over here in 1950. Yep, that's *me* and *Bird*. In *three* links. Top that!
>Gee, this is fun...
Sure is.
-- Anders Engwall Email: Anders.Engw...@eua.ericsson.se ELLEMTEL Utvecklings AB Voice: +46 8 727 3893 Älvsjö, Sweden Fax: +46 8 727 42 20 "I Costa Rica tål de inte att min rika råkost råkar kosta mer än rostad räkost"
In article <C32IxK....@cck.coventry.ac.uk> Jet Girl,
cei...@cck.coventry.ac.uk writes: >being Husker Du's "Eight Mile High" and Siouxsie and the Banshees superior >cover of "Dear Prudence" - this being perhaps the only time when a cover >of a Beatles tune has added anything to the original. Saying that,
Belly's
Ummm... how about: Syreeta Wright's version (with Stevie Wonder) of "She's Leaving Home" Chaka Khan's version of "We can work it out" Earth Wind & Fire's version of "Got to get you into my life"
Doesn't the notion of a cover strike some of you as a little, like, *odd* in its implication that someone previous to X "owns" a song or has framed or reframed its "essence" a bit? Interesting, too, that with nearly nary an exception, the music is vocal. Is that the case because we don't think of improvised pieces as covers so much as attempts to fill in some template that is widely recognized? I'm sure not surprised that any attempt at a list I do winds up telling me before it tells you that I'm partial to bands I already like redoing songs I didn't think I liked.
Mathilde Santing's cover of Aztec Camera's "We Could Send Letters." John Wesley Harding's cover of Madonna's "Like a Prayer" [the version that's recorded on one of the singles cannot hold a *candle* to the live version of same. What a surprise that was.] YMO's cover of Martin Denny's "Firecracker" Pete Townsend's cover of "There's a Heartache Following Me" Yukihiro Takahashi/Bill Nelson's cover of "Helpless" Omoide Hatoba's cover of the ever-popular "Feel Like I'm Fixin' to Die" Brian Ferry's cover of the Roxy Music tune "Casanova" Carl Stone's "cover" of Akiko Yano covering Schubert's "Der Lindenboom" Eno's cover of "You Don't Miss Your Water." Suzanne Vega's stripped down renditioin of "Stay Awake" from the album of the same name. And, to completely ruin my credibility, I thought that the U2 cover of "Night and Day" from the Cole Porter compilation wasn't bad at all.
And it just occurred to me to inquire about the general concensus about turning Brian Ferry loose to crossbreed Screamin' Jay Hawkins' "I Put a Spell on You" with his usual croon.... -- I could be happy now. From my seat in the airplane/I could imagine the full enclosures of people/contented and with no needs beyond/private moments walking the fenceline/before joining the others in the night enclosure /that is the final shape of countries/G. A. Taylor/Heurikon/608-828-3385
In article <1993Mar4.084331.15...@eua.ericsson.se> eua...@eua.ericsson.se (Anders Engwall) writes: >>Pat Benatar does a cover of *Just Like Me* that far surpasses the >>original by Paul Revere and The Raiders, imo.
>The original version of "Just Like Me" was by The Wilde Knights, >best known for the not-so-subtle "Beaver Patrol" (which can be >found on the great _Pebbles Vol. 1_ comp).
Yes, the Wilde Knights' version is available on one of those "Original Northwest Punk" comps. According to the liner notes, PR&TR's managers (T. Dey, R. Hart) liked "Just Like Me" so much that they bought the song outright from the authors.
Somebody else beat PR&TR to "I'm Not Your Steppin' Stone", too... was it the Rebounds?
>Anyway, speaking of covers, let me just do some patriotic flag- >waving here and mention that our sixties punk legends The Namelosers...
Yes, I've heard of them although I haven't actually heard them... one more to check out some day. Problem is, I have so many other money sinks (e.g., a house) that I can't just go out and buy every "tape my record collection" punk comp that comes out in order to get one or two great tracks and a dozen inept "You Really Got Me" and "Louie Louie" retreads! (Although some people would contend, and I wouldn't really argue, that the inept retreads embody the true spirit of garage-band punk much more than the semi-competent retreads.) In any case, I don't even want to think about how much European collectors have to pay for this stuff...
One question, though: am I the last American who still gives a damn about 60's garage-band music? It seems that every garage-related posting but mine originates from Sweden! Not to mention the Finnish posters over in rec.music.makers.guitar who know a hell of a lot more about Fender guitars than I do...
Andrew yes, the same andrew rogers who is credited with research assistance in the swedish iggy pop bio, "the wild one"
In article <1993Mar4.094755.16...@eua.ericsson.se> eua...@eua.ericsson.se (Anders Engwall) writes: >However, I do believe I can link myself to Charlie Parker in three links. >Here goes: the amateur jazz big band I'm in have on occasions had this local >drummer sitting in -- who has also drummed behind Gunnar Svensson -- who >played piano on Parker's tour over here in 1950. Yep, that's *me* and *Bird*. >In *three* links. Top that!
Wow! I can do the same thing, only I can get to Miles Davis, Max Roach and a hoard of others in 2 links, Bird, Mingus, and a bigger hoard in 3, and Coltrane in 4 or less.
The trick? I went to high school with Wynton Marsalis. We played in the same high school band.
Geez, I can get to Jay Leno in, lesse, 3 links! I'm a star!
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